question about personal / philo. exemption

August 4, 2009

Someone I know asked me a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone here can

help with. (They don't mirror my own situation so I'm not 100%.)

1. Oklahoma has a philosophical exemption. Can it be used if a person

selectively vaccinations? (In other words, if they choose to do a couple, but

not most.) On http://www.know-vaccines.org/exemption-legal.html, they claim,

" In many of these states, individuals must object to all vaccines, not just a

particular vaccine in order to use the philosophical or personal belief

exemption. " But they don't say _which_ states and I don't see anything

specifically in the Oklahoma laws when skimming.

2. What should be written on the form for a philosophical exemption?

Thanks!

Tasha M.

August 5, 2009

That is a really good question. One of the benefits (if you want to call it

that) I always understood the philosophical exemption gives is the right to pick

and choose vaccines. BUT in looking at the law, it's not clear.

See here:

(http://www.ok.gov/health/Disease,_Prevention,_Preparedness/Immunizations/Immuni\

zations_For_School/index.html)

" Q: Where can parents obtain exemption forms?

A: Parents can obtain exemption forms from schools and childcare facilities. "

However, looking at some schools in OK, here's Tulsa, which claims to be the

biggest district, with all sorts of forms but no exemption form. There's also no

mention of exemptions at all here:

(http://www.tulsaschools.org/schools1/forms/HD1.pdf) or at a couple of other

schools I checked.

I would probably put it exactly like this: I___, the parent of _____, object to

such immunizations because of religious or other reasons, per Oklahoma Statute

10 Okl. St. § 413.

Winnie-

---- Original Message -----

From: Tasha

Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 6:04 pm

Subject: question about personal / philo. exemption

Vaccinations

> Someone I know asked me a couple of questions that I'm hoping

> someone here can help with. (They don't mirror my own situation

> so I'm not 100%.)

>

> 1. Oklahoma has a philosophical exemption. Can it be used if a

> person selectively vaccinations? (In other words, if they

> choose to do a couple, but not most.) On http://www.know-

> vaccines.org/exemption-legal.html, they claim, " In many of these

> states, individuals must object to all vaccines, not just a

> particular vaccine in order to use the philosophical or personal

> belief exemption. " But they don't say _which_ states and I

> don't see anything specifically in the Oklahoma laws when skimming.

>

> 2. What should be written on the form for a philosophical

> exemption?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Tasha M.

>

August 5, 2009

Is there a reason why you want to go this route? You don't HAVE to list any

reason in OK. You can use this form:

http://www.vaclib.org/letters/RefuseVaccines1.doc

http://www.vaclib.org/letters/RefuseVaccines1.pdf

This way, you can pick which vaccine you want to decline and never list why

specifically. I turned these into the daycare and they didn't think twice

about them. You can also write your own form with anything you want to say

on it.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tasha <ananda.tashie@...> wrote:

>

> Someone I know asked me a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone here

> can help with. (They don't mirror my own situation so I'm not 100%.)

>

> 1. Oklahoma has a philosophical exemption. Can it be used if a person

> selectively vaccinations? (In other words, if they choose to do a couple,

> but not most.) On http://www.know-vaccines.org/exemption-legal.html, they

> claim, " In many of these states, individuals must object to all vaccines,

> not just a particular vaccine in order to use the philosophical or personal

> belief exemption. " But they don't say _which_ states and I don't see

> anything specifically in the Oklahoma laws when skimming.

>

> 2. What should be written on the form for a philosophical exemption?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Tasha M.

>

August 5, 2009

Winnie, you are in Tulsa? Me too! :-)

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:10 PM, <wharrison@...> wrote:

>

> That is a really good question. One of the benefits (if you want to call it

> that) I always understood the philosophical exemption gives is the right to

> pick and choose vaccines. BUT in looking at the law, it's not clear.

>

> See here: (

>

http://www.ok.gov/health/Disease,_Prevention,_Preparedness/Immunizations/Immuniz\

ations_For_School/index.html

> )

>

> " Q: Where can parents obtain exemption forms?

> A: Parents can obtain exemption forms from schools and childcare

> facilities. "

>

> However, looking at some schools in OK, here's Tulsa, which claims to be

> the biggest district, with all sorts of forms but no exemption form. There's

> also no mention of exemptions at all here: (

> http://www.tulsaschools.org/schools1/forms/HD1.pdf) or at a couple of

> other schools I checked.

>

> I would probably put it exactly like this: I___, the parent of _____,

> object to such immunizations because of religious or other reasons, per

> Oklahoma Statute 10 Okl. St. § 413.

>

> Winnie-

>

> ---- Original Message -----

> From: Tasha

> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 6:04 pm

> Subject: question about personal / philo. exemption

> Vaccinations <Vaccinations%40>

>

> > Someone I know asked me a couple of questions that I'm hoping

> > someone here can help with. (They don't mirror my own situation

> > so I'm not 100%.)

> >

> > 1. Oklahoma has a philosophical exemption. Can it be used if a

> > person selectively vaccinations? (In other words, if they

> > choose to do a couple, but not most.) On http://www.know-

> > vaccines.org/exemption-legal.html, they claim, " In many of these

> > states, individuals must object to all vaccines, not just a

> > particular vaccine in order to use the philosophical or personal

> > belief exemption. " But they don't say _which_ states and I

> > don't see anything specifically in the Oklahoma laws when skimming.

> >

> > 2. What should be written on the form for a philosophical

> > exemption?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Tasha M.

> >

>

August 5, 2009

You may be able to email or call the following and find out the information

you are looking for:

*To Order Forms and Materials*

Schools may order the following items from the Immunization Service by

calling (405) 271-4073 or by sending an e-mail to:

immunize@...<immunize@...?subject=Order Forms>

..

- Oklahoma Cumulative Health Record (ODH Form No. 216 Revised 1/00)

- Certificate of Exemption (ODH Form No. 216-A Revised 1/01)

- School Administrator's Guide to Immunizations

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tasha <ananda.tashie@...> wrote:

>

> Someone I know asked me a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone here

> can help with. (They don't mirror my own situation so I'm not 100%.)

>

> 1. Oklahoma has a philosophical exemption. Can it be used if a person

> selectively vaccinations? (In other words, if they choose to do a couple,

> but not most.) On http://www.know-vaccines.org/exemption-legal.html, they

> claim, " In many of these states, individuals must object to all vaccines,

> not just a particular vaccine in order to use the philosophical or personal

> belief exemption. " But they don't say _which_ states and I don't see

> anything specifically in the Oklahoma laws when skimming.

>

> 2. What should be written on the form for a philosophical exemption?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Tasha M.

>

August 6, 2009

Oh, no, I'm in CT. Just poking around the internet...

Winnie

question about personal / philo. exemption

> > Vaccinations

> >

> > > Someone I know asked me a couple of questions that I'm hoping

> > > someone here can help with. (They don't mirror my own situation

> > > so I'm not 100%.)

> > >

> > > 1. Oklahoma has a philosophical exemption. Can it be used if a

> > > person selectively vaccinations? (In other words, if they

> > > choose to do a couple, but not most.) On http://www.know-

> > > vaccines.org/exemption-legal.html, they claim, " In many of these

> > > states, individuals must object to all vaccines, not just a

> > > particular vaccine in order to use the philosophical or personal

> > > belief exemption. " But they don't say _which_ states and I

> > > don't see anything specifically in the Oklahoma laws when

> skimming.> >

> > > 2. What should be written on the form for a philosophical

> > > exemption?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Tasha M.

> > >

> >

August 6, 2009

I would think that if a person had the option of a philosophical exemption, then

for school or anything they could just use that for ALL vaccines as far as the

school is concerned, if they chose to have one or two vax then they could keep

it between them and their doctor.

Chelly

Vaccinations

From: wharrison@...

Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:47:15 +0000

Subject: Re: question about personal / philo. exemption