Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 from June of 2007 and how many cases of tetanus in US women after delivery? gotta make money for the company that makes Tdap (includes diphtheria and pertussis) Sheri " Dr. Steele and his associates are currently working on a protocol for prepartum immunization of the fathers. " (and grandparents and aunts and uncles and mailman, etc) http://www.obgynnew s.com/article/ PIIS002974370770 4718/fulltext BALTIMORE — Standing orders are a very effective way to implement routine tetanus-diphtheria- acellular pertussis immunization among postpartum women, Dr. W. Steele and his associates said in a poster presentation at a conference on vaccine research sponsored by the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases. In December 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (ACIP) recommended immediate Tdap vaccination for postpartum women to prevent maternal transfer of tetanus and pertussis to the newborn (MMWR 2006;55 [RR17]:133). In an interview during the meeting, Dr. Steele noted that standing orders eliminate the need for busy obstetricians to have to remember to ask women about Td immunization, and the fact that they are required to give the contraindication if they check " no " also results in a very high acceptance rate. Previous studies have demonstrated the effectiveness of using inpatient standing orders to improve adult immunization rates, and the CDC has endorsed these strategies, said Dr. Steele, of the department of pediatrics at St. 's Children's Hospital, Springfield, Mo. In collaboration with the department of obstetrics and gynecology at St. 's Hospital, Tdap was added to the preprinted postpartum orders. Physicians routinely check the order either to give Tdap before discharge or to not give it and to identify the contraindications. Charts were reviewed for all 414 women who had live births during a 70-day period, and were compared with data from 14,738 adult women whose claims and state registry data could be confirmed for the past 10 years. Only 2% (9) of the women had received tetanus-diphtheria (Td) immunization within the previous 2 years and were therefore ineligible to receive Tdap, while 0.5% (2) were ineligible because of serious illness. Another 12.5% (52) of the women declined the vaccine, 3% (11) had unsigned postpartum orders, and 3% (12) had signed orders to give the vaccine but there was no record that it had been given. The other 79% (328) received the vaccine, a significantly higher proportion than the 36% Td immunization rate of the adult women in the registry, Dr. Steele and his associates reported. ACIP also recommends that health care workers in hospitals or ambulatory care settings and those who have direct patient contact should receive Tdap, in particular providers who have direct contact with infants less than 12 months of age. Because most infants with pertussis are infected by a household contact, use of standing orders for postpartum women could substantially decrease maternal transmission of pertussis to the newborn. Dr. Steele and his associates are currently working on a protocol for prepartum immunization of the fathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 sure... let's poison the entire population (mothers, fathers, babies, animals and anything that moves) that way we are guarantee to be in business for generations to come. Its beyond evil!! .. Arianna Mojica- (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston Postpartum Standing orders for Tdap Suggested from June of 2007 and how many cases of tetanus in US women after delivery? gotta make money for the company that makes Tdap (includes diphtheria and pertussis) Sheri " Dr. Steele and his associates are currently working on a protocol for prepartum immunization of the fathers. " (and grandparents and aunts and uncles and mailman, etc) http://www.obgynnew s.com/article/ PIIS002974370770 4718/fulltext BALTIMORE — Standing orders are a very effective way to implement routine tetanus-diphtheria- acellular pertussis immunization among postpartum women, Dr. W. Steele and his associates said in a poster presentation at a conference on vaccine research sponsored by the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases. In December 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (ACIP) recommended immediate Tdap vaccination for postpartum women to prevent maternal transfer of tetanus and pertussis to the newborn (MMWR 2006;55 [RR17]:133). In an interview during the meeting, Dr. Steele noted that standing orders eliminate the need for busy obstetricians to have to remember to ask women about Td immunization, and the fact that they are required to give the contraindication if they check " no " also results in a very high acceptance rate. Previous studies have demonstrated the effectiveness of using inpatient standing orders to improve adult immunization rates, and the CDC has endorsed these strategies, said Dr. Steele, of the department of pediatrics at St. 's Children's Hospital, Springfield, Mo. In collaboration with the department of obstetrics and gynecology at St. 's Hospital, Tdap was added to the preprinted postpartum orders. Physicians routinely check the order either to give Tdap before discharge or to not give it and to identify the contraindications. Charts were reviewed for all 414 women who had live births during a 70-day period, and were compared with data from 14,738 adult women whose claims and state registry data could be confirmed for the past 10 years. Only 2% (9) of the women had received tetanus-diphtheria (Td) immunization within the previous 2 years and were therefore ineligible to receive Tdap, while 0.5% (2) were ineligible because of serious illness. Another 12.5% (52) of the women declined the vaccine, 3% (11) had unsigned postpartum orders, and 3% (12) had signed orders to give the vaccine but there was no record that it had been given. The other 79% (328) received the vaccine, a significantly higher proportion than the 36% Td immunization rate of the adult women in the registry, Dr. Steele and his associates reported. ACIP also recommends that health care workers in hospitals or ambulatory care settings and those who have direct patient contact should receive Tdap, in particular providers who have direct contact with infants less than 12 months of age. Because most infants with pertussis are infected by a household contact, use of standing orders for postpartum women could substantially decrease maternal transmission of pertussis to the newborn. Dr. Steele and his associates are currently working on a protocol for prepartum immunization of the fathers. ~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health ~~~A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden www.vaclib.org www.909shot.com http://www.vacinfo.org/ http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htmhttp://www.vran.o\ rg/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 > > I had a question about all of the postpartum delivery vaccinations. > When I had my daughter, they never brought up anything about any kind > of vaxes for me, ever. Is that protocol in other countries? I'm in the > US. And when I refused the HepB for my little one, they didn't care > either way. It wasn't a big deal for them. This relates to the > hospital only, for her. But, even when I went to my doc for my > checkup, he never said anything about boosters for me. I was just > curious after reading all of everyone else's experiences. > > Same thing with me, i was never offered or suggested any vaccines when i was pregnant in 2004. I don't even now if they checked my rubella immunity but i guess it's a routine procedure. I also declined Hep.B for my son in the hospital and was given a form to sign and noone said anything at all, not even dirty looks. Katarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 I got this vaccine in February when my son was born It was before I started researching vaccine issues. They gave me a guilt trip about how I was going to be the cause of my son getting whooping cough if I didn't get it. And nobody informed me that Hep B is only really " needed " in case the mother has it or if the child will be exposed to it in the household as well, so I consented to that too and still feel miserable that I did. He hasn't had any vaccinations since at least. At my son's first doctor visit after we left the hospital, they pushed the flu vaccine on me. Same guilt trip about how ill my son would get if I caught the flu and gave it to him. I was dumb and allowed it. Off topic - Now I'm reading up on all the toxins in various baby products (furniture, mattresses, toys, lotions/shampoos/soaps, etc) and trying to detoxify what my son comes into contact with. I am having a hard time coming to grips with the fact that these chemicals are allowed to be used in anything at all much less baby products. I'm stressing that he's been exposed to them for three months now (and likely will still continue to be to some extent since these chemicals are apparently EVERYWHERE). If anyone has any good resources on detoxifying your household and safe baby products, please feel free to email me off the list! I'd appreciate it. Are there safe ways to cleanse a baby of any chemical/heavy metal build up that might have occurred due to vaccinations and chemical exposure? On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Katarina <kkatkov@...> wrote: > > > > > I had a question about all of the postpartum delivery vaccinations. > > When I had my daughter, they never brought up anything about any kind > > of vaxes for me, ever. Is that protocol in other countries? I'm in the > > US. And when I refused the HepB for my little one, they didn't care > > either way. It wasn't a big deal for them. This relates to the > > hospital only, for her. But, even when I went to my doc for my > > checkup, he never said anything about boosters for me. I was just > > curious after reading all of everyone else's experiences. > > > > Same thing with me, i was never offered or suggested any vaccines > when i was pregnant in 2004. I don't even now if they checked my > rubella immunity but i guess it's a routine procedure. I also declined > Hep.B for my son in the hospital and was given a form to sign and noone > said anything at all, not even dirty looks. > > Katarina > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 You weren't dumb. You were following your gut feeling at the time. The vaccine manufacturers are very sly about taking advantage of tapping into that gut feeling. You trusted your doctor and had no reason to think vaccines could in any way be harmful. And I really don't believe the doctors intend to cause harm, although surely many are looking the other way when it happens. You weren't dumb at all--and now you're aware. Good for you. It took me years to connect the dots. Winnie Re: Re: Postpartum Standing orders for Tdap Suggested Vaccinations > I got this vaccine in February when my son was born It was > before I > started researching vaccine issues. They gave me a guilt trip > about how I > was going to be the cause of my son getting whooping cough if I > didn't get > it. And nobody informed me that Hep B is only really " needed " in > case the > mother has it or if the child will be exposed to it in the > household as > well, so I consented to that too and still feel miserable that I > did. He > hasn't had any vaccinations since at least. At my son's first > doctor visit > after we left the hospital, they pushed the flu vaccine on me. > Same guilt > trip about how ill my son would get if I caught the flu and gave > it to him. > I was dumb and allowed it. > > Off topic - Now I'm reading up on all the toxins in various baby > products(furniture, mattresses, toys, lotions/shampoos/soaps, > etc) and trying to > detoxify what my son comes into contact with. I am having a hard > time coming > to grips with the fact that these chemicals are allowed to be > used in > anything at all much less baby products. I'm stressing that he's been > exposed to them for three months now (and likely will still > continue to be > to some extent since these chemicals are apparently EVERYWHERE). > If anyone > has any good resources on detoxifying your household and safe > baby products, > please feel free to email me off the list! I'd appreciate it. > > Are there safe ways to cleanse a baby of any chemical/heavy > metal build up > that might have occurred due to vaccinations and chemical exposure? > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Katarina wrote: > > > > > > > > > I had a question about all of the postpartum delivery > vaccinations.> > When I had my daughter, they never brought up > anything about any kind > > > of vaxes for me, ever. Is that protocol in other countries? > I'm in the > > > US. And when I refused the HepB for my little one, they > didn't care > > > either way. It wasn't a big deal for them. This relates to the > > > hospital only, for her. But, even when I went to my doc for my > > > checkup, he never said anything about boosters for me. I was just > > > curious after reading all of everyone else's experiences. > > > > > > Same thing with me, i was never offered or suggested any vaccines > > when i was pregnant in 2004. I don't even now if they checked my > > rubella immunity but i guess it's a routine procedure. I also > declined> Hep.B for my son in the hospital and was given a form > to sign and noone > > said anything at all, not even dirty looks. > > > > Katarina > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 At 12:45 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote: >I had a question about all of the postpartum delivery vaccinations. >When I had my daughter, they never brought up anything about any kind >of vaxes for me, ever. Is that protocol in other countries? I'm in the >US. And when I refused the HepB for my little one, they didn't care >either way. It wasn't a big deal for them. This relates to the >hospital only, for her. But, even when I went to my doc for my >checkup, he never said anything about boosters for me. I was just >curious after reading all of everyone else's experiences. They just haven't 'gotten' to your doc or hospital yet. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Everything varies, hospital to hospital. Depends on many things Sheri At 01:50 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote: > > > > > I had a question about all of the postpartum delivery vaccinations. > > When I had my daughter, they never brought up anything about any kind > > of vaxes for me, ever. Is that protocol in other countries? I'm in the > > US. And when I refused the HepB for my little one, they didn't care > > either way. It wasn't a big deal for them. This relates to the > > hospital only, for her. But, even when I went to my doc for my > > checkup, he never said anything about boosters for me. I was just > > curious after reading all of everyone else's experiences. > > > > Same thing with me, i was never offered or suggested any vaccines >when i was pregnant in 2004. I don't even now if they checked my >rubella immunity but i guess it's a routine procedure. I also declined >Hep.B for my son in the hospital and was given a form to sign and noone >said anything at all, not even dirty looks. > >Katarina > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 > > >Are there safe ways to cleanse a baby of any chemical/heavy metal build up >that might have occurred due to vaccinations and chemical exposure? Well, that is challenging as there is SO MUCH toxic now affecting us all. Homeopathic treatment with a quality homeopath is the only thing I know to help Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Can you recommend one in northeastern Massachusetts or southern New Hampshire? On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > > > > > > >Are there safe ways to cleanse a baby of any chemical/heavy metal build up > >that might have occurred due to vaccinations and chemical exposure? > > Well, that is challenging as there is SO MUCH toxic now affecting us all. > Homeopathic treatment with a quality homeopath is the only thing I know to > help > Sheri > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm<http://www.nccn.net/%7Ewwithin/vaccine.\ htm>or > http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses > http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or > http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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