Re: To Rina re: DTaP. Was new to group

[Guest guest]

Hi ka,

Thank you for your response. What scares me the most is like most

uninformed moms, I too had given my daughter all her doses of the DTAP crap when

she was 2, 4, and 6 months and I hate that I did without knowing what was really

going in her body. And although I still hardly know what is in all shots, I do

know that they can be harmful to any child and I am stopping that right now! My

main concern was how I am going to put in her school when that time comes? I

have read some info on Thinktwice.com to help with the laws for California and

it looks as though I can by pass the vaccine mandate for putting kids into

school. She is only 14 months old and I have long ways to go before school, but

I want to prepare myself now for what is to come. If anyone else can please

advise me or pass along some MORE info on vaccines and school, please do. Thank

you again ka and everybody in this group!

Roberg <trinnea@...> wrote:

Hi Rina,

I apologize, I'm catching up on the threads a bit late, but I saw your post

on your daughter's impending DTaP vax and feel compelled to respond.

I urge you... no, I BEG YOU with ALL OF MY BEING to hold off on the DTaP

(all vaccines really) until you can fully reserch it. This shot has a very

high incidence of causing brain damage and has a real potential to be

DEADLY. I highly recommend reading " A Shot in the Dark " by L.

Coulter and Barbara Loe Fisher (co-founder of the National Vaccine

Information Center, http://www.nvic.org). There is also a lot of

information at the Mothering.com vaccinations forum. Here's the link for

DTaP info there:

http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=112

PLEASE arm yourself with good information before letting your precious

little girl be subjected to live viruses, heavy metals and neurotoxins that

can change her life forever.... or Heaven forbid, something worse!

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Rina Barillas <kisses4chuly@...>

wrote:

>

> For the lady with the 3 year old and 10 month old, can you please share

with

> me what vaccines you don't give and why? I only ask because I am trying to

> receive as much info as possible without missing something. I personally

> have decided against the MMR and now looking towards the DTAP which is due

> according to the " schedule " at my daughter's next month 15 month check up.

> Please advise......thank you

[Guest guest]

At 10:20 AM 3/17/2008, you wrote:

>Hi ka,

> Thank you for your response. What scares me the most is like

> most uninformed moms, I too had given my daughter all her doses of

> the DTAP crap when she was 2, 4, and 6 months and I hate that I did

> without knowing what was really going in her body. And although I

> still hardly know what is in all shots, I do know that they can be

> harmful to any child and I am stopping that right now! My main

> concern was how I am going to put in her school when that time

> comes? I have read some info on Thinktwice.com to help with the

> laws for California and it looks as though I can by pass the

> vaccine mandate for putting kids into school. She is only 14 months

> old and I have long ways to go before school, but I want to prepare

> myself now for what is to come. If anyone else can please advise me

> or pass along some MORE info on vaccines and school, please do.

> Thank you again ka and everybody in this group!

California is very easy

The school will give you a form to fill out on vaccines and turn it

over and on the back is a line you sign to refuse them.

That's it.

Sheri

[Guest guest]

That easy???? I am sure I will have to hear from school officials. I thought it

had to be notarized and also what happens if there is an outbreak of something,

am I able to legally keep her out of school?

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 10:20 AM 3/17/2008, you

wrote:

>Hi ka,

> Thank you for your response. What scares me the most is like

> most uninformed moms, I too had given my daughter all her doses of

> the DTAP crap when she was 2, 4, and 6 months and I hate that I did

> without knowing what was really going in her body. And although I

> still hardly know what is in all shots, I do know that they can be

> harmful to any child and I am stopping that right now! My main

> concern was how I am going to put in her school when that time

> comes? I have read some info on Thinktwice.com to help with the

> laws for California and it looks as though I can by pass the

> vaccine mandate for putting kids into school. She is only 14 months

> old and I have long ways to go before school, but I want to prepare

> myself now for what is to come. If anyone else can please advise me

> or pass along some MORE info on vaccines and school, please do.

> Thank you again ka and everybody in this group!

California is very easy

The school will give you a form to fill out on vaccines and turn it

over and on the back is a line you sign to refuse them.

That's it.

Sheri

Rina Barillas

---------------------------------

Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

[Guest guest]

If it's like the laws here in Colorado, you'll be *required* to keep you

child out of school for as long as the outbreak occurs (IMO that's what I'd

want to do anyway). Here in Colorado, we have the same type of waiver form

that California does. You fill out your child's information, list the

vaccines you're waiving (I simply put " ALL " in bold letters), sign it and

turn it in. My kiddo is only two, but I haven't been met with much

resistance from school (preschool) officials at all. The only opposition

I've really encountered is in the allopathic medical community, because I'm

messing with their bread and butter by refusing vaccines.... the school

officials get paid whether your child is vaccinated or not, so I think they

have less motivation to bully you.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Rina Barillas <kisses4chuly@...>

wrote:

>

> That easy???? I am sure I will have to hear from school officials. I

thought it had to be notarized and also what happens if there is an outbreak

of something, am I able to legally keep her out of school?

[Guest guest]

ka, thank you!

Roberg <trinnea@...> wrote: If it's like the laws here in

Colorado, you'll be *required* to keep you

child out of school for as long as the outbreak occurs (IMO that's what I'd

want to do anyway). Here in Colorado, we have the same type of waiver form

that California does. You fill out your child's information, list the

vaccines you're waiving (I simply put " ALL " in bold letters), sign it and

turn it in. My kiddo is only two, but I haven't been met with much

resistance from school (preschool) officials at all. The only opposition

I've really encountered is in the allopathic medical community, because I'm

messing with their bread and butter by refusing vaccines.... the school

officials get paid whether your child is vaccinated or not, so I think they

have less motivation to bully you.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Rina Barillas <kisses4chuly@...>

wrote:

>

> That easy???? I am sure I will have to hear from school officials. I

thought it had to be notarized and also what happens if there is an outbreak

of something, am I able to legally keep her out of school?

[Guest guest]

California law can be found thru my webpage links

http://www.wellwithin1.com/exemptions.htm

it is that easy

Sheri

At 01:05 PM 3/17/2008, you wrote:

>That easy???? I am sure I will have to hear from school officials. I

>thought it had to be notarized and also what happens if there is an

>outbreak of something, am I able to legally keep her out of school?

>

>Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 10:20 AM

>3/17/2008, you wrote:

> >Hi ka,

> > Thank you for your response. What scares me the most is like

> > most uninformed moms, I too had given my daughter all her doses of

> > the DTAP crap when she was 2, 4, and 6 months and I hate that I did

> > without knowing what was really going in her body. And although I

> > still hardly know what is in all shots, I do know that they can be

> > harmful to any child and I am stopping that right now! My main

> > concern was how I am going to put in her school when that time

> > comes? I have read some info on Thinktwice.com to help with the

> > laws for California and it looks as though I can by pass the

> > vaccine mandate for putting kids into school. She is only 14 months

> > old and I have long ways to go before school, but I want to prepare

> > myself now for what is to come. If anyone else can please advise me

> > or pass along some MORE info on vaccines and school, please do.

> > Thank you again ka and everybody in this group!

>

>California is very easy

>The school will give you a form to fill out on vaccines and turn it

>over and on the back is a line you sign to refuse them.

>That's it.

>Sheri

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Rina Barillas

>

>

>---------------------------------

>Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rina,

I live in CA. All I had to do for daycare was flip the vaccination

record form over, and sign a benign statement. Something like, " I refuse

to give my child immunizations. " At this point, we're a really easy

state when it comes to vaccine choice. Don't worry too far in advance.

She's 14 months, so she's not going to need to be in a public school for

a few years. Who knows what laws - good or bad - might be in effect

then? My son is 26 months and started day care at 20 months. None of the

day cares I talked to, not even the two schools, cared about his

vaccination status.

Relax!

:0)

~Robyn

Rina Barillas wrote:

>

> Hi ka,

> Thank you for your response. What scares me the most is like most

> uninformed moms, I too had given my daughter all her doses of the DTAP

> crap when she was 2, 4, and 6 months and I hate that I did without

> knowing what was really going in her body. And although I still hardly

> know what is in all shots, I do know that they can be harmful to any

> child and I am stopping that right now! My main concern was how I am

> going to put in her school when that time comes? I have read some info

> on Thinktwice.com to help with the laws for California and it looks as

> though I can by pass the vaccine mandate for putting kids into school.

> She is only 14 months old and I have long ways to go before school,

> but I want to prepare myself now for what is to come. If anyone else

> can please advise me or pass along some MORE info on vaccines and

> school, please do. Thank you again ka and everybody in this group!

>

> Roberg <trinnea@... <mailto:trinnea%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Hi Rina,

>

> I apologize, I'm catching up on the threads a bit late, but I saw your

> post

> on your daughter's impending DTaP vax and feel compelled to respond.

> I urge you... no, I BEG YOU with ALL OF MY BEING to hold off on the DTaP

> (all vaccines really) until you can fully reserch it. This shot has a very

> high incidence of causing brain damage and has a real potential to be

> DEADLY. I highly recommend reading " A Shot in the Dark " by L.

> Coulter and Barbara Loe Fisher (co-founder of the National Vaccine

> Information Center, http://www.nvic.org <http://www.nvic.org>). There

> is also a lot of

> information at the Mothering.com vaccinations forum. Here's the link for

> DTaP info there:

> http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=112

> <http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=112>

>

> PLEASE arm yourself with good information before letting your precious

> little girl be subjected to live viruses, heavy metals and neurotoxins

> that

> can change her life forever.... or Heaven forbid, something worse!

>

>

>

> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Rina Barillas

> <kisses4chuly@... <mailto:kisses4chuly%40>>

> wrote:

> >

> > For the lady with the 3 year old and 10 month old, can you please share

> with

> > me what vaccines you don't give and why? I only ask because I am

> trying to

>

> > receive as much info as possible without missing something. I personally

> > have decided against the MMR and now looking towards the DTAP which

> is due

>

> > according to the " schedule " at my daughter's next month 15 month

> check up.

>

> > Please advise......thank you

>

>

[Guest guest]

Robyn,

Thank you for that info. My baby girl has been in day care since she was 6

months old and of course was vaxxed back then. I usually am a person who thinks

ahead, but in this case you are right, who knows what will happen by then. I

just want to make siure I am prepared. Thanks for the support once again!

Rina

Robyn Chittister <robyn@...> wrote:

Rina,

I live in CA. All I had to do for daycare was flip the vaccination

record form over, and sign a benign statement. Something like, " I refuse

to give my child immunizations. " At this point, we're a really easy

state when it comes to vaccine choice. Don't worry too far in advance.

She's 14 months, so she's not going to need to be in a public school for

a few years. Who knows what laws - good or bad - might be in effect

then? My son is 26 months and started day care at 20 months. None of the

day cares I talked to, not even the two schools, cared about his

vaccination status.

Relax!

:0)

~Robyn

Rina Barillas wrote:

>

> Hi ka,

> Thank you for your response. What scares me the most is like most

> uninformed moms, I too had given my daughter all her doses of the DTAP

> crap when she was 2, 4, and 6 months and I hate that I did without

> knowing what was really going in her body. And although I still hardly

> know what is in all shots, I do know that they can be harmful to any

> child and I am stopping that right now! My main concern was how I am

> going to put in her school when that time comes? I have read some info

> on Thinktwice.com to help with the laws for California and it looks as

> though I can by pass the vaccine mandate for putting kids into school.

> She is only 14 months old and I have long ways to go before school,

> but I want to prepare myself now for what is to come. If anyone else

> can please advise me or pass along some MORE info on vaccines and

> school, please do. Thank you again ka and everybody in this group!

>

> Roberg <trinnea@... <mailto:trinnea%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Hi Rina,

>

> I apologize, I'm catching up on the threads a bit late, but I saw your

> post

> on your daughter's impending DTaP vax and feel compelled to respond.

> I urge you... no, I BEG YOU with ALL OF MY BEING to hold off on the DTaP

> (all vaccines really) until you can fully reserch it. This shot has a very

> high incidence of causing brain damage and has a real potential to be

> DEADLY. I highly recommend reading " A Shot in the Dark " by L.

> Coulter and Barbara Loe Fisher (co-founder of the National Vaccine

> Information Center, http://www.nvic.org <http://www.nvic.org>). There

> is also a lot of

> information at the Mothering.com vaccinations forum. Here's the link for

> DTaP info there:

> http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=112

> <http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=112>

>

> PLEASE arm yourself with good information before letting your precious

> little girl be subjected to live viruses, heavy metals and neurotoxins

> that

> can change her life forever.... or Heaven forbid, something worse!

>

>

>

> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Rina Barillas

> <kisses4chuly@... <mailto:kisses4chuly%40>>

> wrote:

> >

> > For the lady with the 3 year old and 10 month old, can you please share

> with

> > me what vaccines you don't give and why? I only ask because I am

> trying to

>

> > receive as much info as possible without missing something. I personally

> > have decided against the MMR and now looking towards the DTAP which

> is due

>

> > according to the " schedule " at my daughter's next month 15 month

> check up.

>

> > Please advise......thank you

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rina,

Glad it helped. When I re-read it, I thought I might have sounded

dismissive. I'm not! I understand where you're coming from, I do. I just

made a conscious decision at some point - I don't even know when - to

stop worrying unless I absolutely had to. It's helped a lot.

~Robyn

Rina Barillas wrote:

>

> Robyn,

> Thank you for that info. My baby girl has been in day care since she

> was 6 months old and of course was vaxxed back then. I usually am a

> person who thinks ahead, but in this case you are right, who knows

> what will happen by then. I just want to make siure I am prepared.

> Thanks for the support once again!

>

> Rina

>

> Robyn Chittister <robyn@...

> <mailto:robyn%40alumni.carnegiemellon.edu>> wrote:

> Rina,

> I live in CA. All I had to do for daycare was flip the vaccination

> record form over, and sign a benign statement. Something like, " I refuse

> to give my child immunizations. " At this point, we're a really easy

> state when it comes to vaccine choice. Don't worry too far in advance.

> She's 14 months, so she's not going to need to be in a public school for

> a few years. Who knows what laws - good or bad - might be in effect

> then? My son is 26 months and started day care at 20 months. None of the

> day cares I talked to, not even the two schools, cared about his

> vaccination status.

>

> Relax!

> :0)

>

> ~Robyn

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