Re: shoe and laundry baking tips

[Guest guest]

Tony you could try the orange guard on your shoes if the cedarcide is to

expensive. For laundry I still say fels naptha is the best thing I have found

for killing the things for the money. Use the cooked recipe for the fels naptha.

http://www.orangeguard.com/order.html

http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=D1001 & Show=ExtInfo

> > >

> > > Sorry about the DSP site, here's the better link:

> > >

> > > http://www.s-m-g.org/dsp/

> > >

> > > The owner of the site/shop, Marc Neumann, asks people to register because

he's trying to keep out spammers. He was a systems administrator when he got

morgellons and he says he gets tons of hits on his site from the US military and

other government organizations. His shop will be closed from Dec 20 thru Jan

4th. I just checked the exchange rate and a 10 oz container of the DSP Gold

would be $23US, plus postage. The exchange rate is unfavorable right now for

the US dollar. The other DSP product I found very helpful is the bodywash. It

is currently about $11 US for a bottle.

> > >

> > > If your leather sandals have stitching on them, they are probably

infested. I eventually had to throw out all my leather sandals, it was hopeless.

I do not, however, own a microwave so maybe someone can chime in with a

shoe-microwaving protocol? Also, some people bake their shoes at low heat in

the regular oven, but I don't want to put shoes in my oven!

> > >

> > > I think you may not be soaking your laundry long enough, unless your

clothes and linens are all synthetics. It is difficult to get the bugs and

their eggs out of cotton and rayon. I dumped all my cotton and rayon clothes,

so I can't give good laundry advice if you've got cottons. I only wear and use

synthetic fabrics now, and I soak them for an hour in hot water with detergent

and a small amount of bleach every time I do laundry. When I was heavily

infested, I never found a laundry protocol that was 100% effective. Be

especially careful of jeans and any other clothing with thick seams because they

seem to be a comfy hiding place for the bugs. If I were back in that place of

being infested, I would probably boil or bake my cotton clothing after running

them through the washing machine. But back then I was going nuts and couldn't

cope with cooking my clothes.

> > >

> > > Storing your laundered clothes in sealed bags is good. I'm not sure if

the moth balls help or not, they didn't help me, in fact I burned my skin with

the mothballed clothes, and I would feel bugs crawling in the mothballed

(cotton) clothes.

> > >

> > > There must be some people out there who have laundry protocols for cotton

clothing. Some people have protocols for microwaving clothing, hopefully they

can chime in.

> > >

> > > Here is a clothes baking post I copied and saved:

> > > Posted by on 11/12/08, message #10111

> > > Clothes Baking Tips

> > >

> > > I fill the oven with fluffed up clothes, turn it to 200, and an hour and a

half later put in the next batch. I've used this on cotton and mixed fibers, not

leather, not silk yet (that stuff's in waiting for this to be over). Absolutely

no crawling after doing this. I've gone for as long as a week before wearing

baked clothes and still no signs. After a few bakings, I launder, incorporating

a 24-hour soak. So obviously an hour in the oven vs. 24 in the washer gives me

more options. (For logistical reasons in a condo with washer and drier in a

small kitchen, I just dothe soaking in the washer. It's just me and my stuff, as

with Kihun, quite a luxury I guess.)

> > >

> > > Negatives of baking--some stains that I wasn't aware of got baked in,

> > > but everything came out with a little effort--I always had some kind of

little offline soak going on anyway it seems. I was Ms. fabric-care; have

grabbed sisters' clothes, taken them home and treated, and returned them in

prime condition! Another thing to be aware of--for some reason baking makes

everything very wrinkly. Oh, and check your pockets for credit cards, etc.

before baking!

> > >

> > > No more microwaving for me after ruining a favorite thing--timing is too

delicate, and besides I've never trusted them; I actually heat leftovers in a

bain-marie instead.

> > >

> > > I'm doing something not-economical with wardrobe these days. I am

> > > wearing only jeans with men's cotton shirts. I take the shirts to a

> > > laundry, where I know they are getting fried. There's nothing like that

feeling of a fresh shirt when you're feeling leperous and grungy from the inside

out.

>

[Guest guest]

Marie, thanks for the great ideas. I think I can get the orange guard locally

I've heard mixed reviews about cedarcide but it sure looks promising on their

site. I like the smell of cedar or anything woody. I also checked the fles

naptha site. Interesting. I wouldn't mind trying that. I am not currently

working so I have time to experiement even though I'd rather not. This thing is

taking up all my time but I need to save money anywhere I can. Thanks again

Marie. Tony

> > > >

> > > > Sorry about the DSP site, here's the better link:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.s-m-g.org/dsp/

> > > >

> > > > The owner of the site/shop, Marc Neumann, asks people to register

because he's trying to keep out spammers. He was a systems administrator when

he got morgellons and he says he gets tons of hits on his site from the US

military and other government organizations. His shop will be closed from Dec

20 thru Jan 4th. I just checked the exchange rate and a 10 oz container of the

DSP Gold would be $23US, plus postage. The exchange rate is unfavorable right

now for the US dollar. The other DSP product I found very helpful is the

bodywash. It is currently about $11 US for a bottle.

> > > >

> > > > If your leather sandals have stitching on them, they are probably

infested. I eventually had to throw out all my leather sandals, it was hopeless.

I do not, however, own a microwave so maybe someone can chime in with a

shoe-microwaving protocol? Also, some people bake their shoes at low heat in

the regular oven, but I don't want to put shoes in my oven!

> > > >

> > > > I think you may not be soaking your laundry long enough, unless your

clothes and linens are all synthetics. It is difficult to get the bugs and

their eggs out of cotton and rayon. I dumped all my cotton and rayon clothes,

so I can't give good laundry advice if you've got cottons. I only wear and use

synthetic fabrics now, and I soak them for an hour in hot water with detergent

and a small amount of bleach every time I do laundry. When I was heavily

infested, I never found a laundry protocol that was 100% effective. Be

especially careful of jeans and any other clothing with thick seams because they

seem to be a comfy hiding place for the bugs. If I were back in that place of

being infested, I would probably boil or bake my cotton clothing after running

them through the washing machine. But back then I was going nuts and couldn't

cope with cooking my clothes.

> > > >

> > > > Storing your laundered clothes in sealed bags is good. I'm not sure if

the moth balls help or not, they didn't help me, in fact I burned my skin with

the mothballed clothes, and I would feel bugs crawling in the mothballed

(cotton) clothes.

> > > >

> > > > There must be some people out there who have laundry protocols for

cotton clothing. Some people have protocols for microwaving clothing, hopefully

they can chime in.

> > > >

> > > > Here is a clothes baking post I copied and saved:

> > > > Posted by on 11/12/08, message #10111

> > > > Clothes Baking Tips

> > > >

> > > > I fill the oven with fluffed up clothes, turn it to 200, and an hour and

a half later put in the next batch. I've used this on cotton and mixed fibers,

not leather, not silk yet (that stuff's in waiting for this to be over).

Absolutely no crawling after doing this. I've gone for as long as a week before

wearing baked clothes and still no signs. After a few bakings, I launder,

incorporating a 24-hour soak. So obviously an hour in the oven vs. 24 in the

washer gives me more options. (For logistical reasons in a condo with washer and

drier in a small kitchen, I just dothe soaking in the washer. It's just me and

my stuff, as with Kihun, quite a luxury I guess.)

> > > >

> > > > Negatives of baking--some stains that I wasn't aware of got baked in,

> > > > but everything came out with a little effort--I always had some kind of

little offline soak going on anyway it seems. I was Ms. fabric-care; have

grabbed sisters' clothes, taken them home and treated, and returned them in

prime condition! Another thing to be aware of--for some reason baking makes

everything very wrinkly. Oh, and check your pockets for credit cards, etc.

before baking!

> > > >

> > > > No more microwaving for me after ruining a favorite thing--timing is too

delicate, and besides I've never trusted them; I actually heat leftovers in a

bain-marie instead.

> > > >

> > > > I'm doing something not-economical with wardrobe these days. I am

> > > > wearing only jeans with men's cotton shirts. I take the shirts to a

> > > > laundry, where I know they are getting fried. There's nothing like that

feeling of a fresh shirt when you're feeling leperous and grungy from the inside

out.

> >

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