Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Oh it's just awful isn't it? I'm seriously wishing I'd left the blasted critters alone because this is the biggest assault Iv'e given them and they are really fighting back now, not a good day today. Vicky Re: parasites and killing them is very painful to host! Parasites are an ongoing problem here and to be honest we're too knackered to take them on again. The die off, however much charcoal and risk of mercury mobilisation just freaks the pants off me :-( > > Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a > whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like > you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do > we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure > where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black > walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is > not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + > constipation+digging. > Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Just seen this Tracey, I have a funny little reading panel now and miss a lot of messages. I suppose it could be hatching eggs but I have been giving him so much parasite cleansers for so long I kind of hoped with this long a run we would catch the eggs, but no way of knowing for sure is there? He has really dreadful stinky gas as well, now what does that tell me? Stimmy, climbing but BM's look good when he has them, a bit constipated and itching bottom. Garlic tends to give reflux. Vicky Re: Re: parasites Could it be eggs that have buried into colon wall that are now hatching? This would create a new generation of the blessed critters to get rid of .. Would he eat garlic.. This will kill the parasites off. Tracey Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging. Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Just seen this Tracey, I have a funny little reading panel now and miss a lot of messages. I suppose it could be hatching eggs but I have been giving him so much parasite cleansers for so long I kind of hoped with this long a run we would catch the eggs, but no way of knowing for sure is there? He has really dreadful stinky gas as well, now what does that tell me? Stimmy, climbing but BM's look good when he has them, a bit constipated and itching bottom. Garlic tends to give reflux. Vicky Re: Re: parasites Could it be eggs that have buried into colon wall that are now hatching? This would create a new generation of the blessed critters to get rid of .. Would he eat garlic.. This will kill the parasites off. Tracey Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging. Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Vicky, Are you chelating right now?? just that the gas, climbing and itchy bum are defo big yeast behaviours here... x > > > > > Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging. > Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Vicky, Are you chelating right now?? just that the gas, climbing and itchy bum are defo big yeast behaviours here... x > > > > > Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging. > Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Vicky, Are you chelating right now?? just that the gas, climbing and itchy bum are defo big yeast behaviours here... x > > > > > Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging. > Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Hi Vicky  I was wondering is he was holding some faecal waste high in his colon... If it was old and dried out.. then the treatments may not be reaching these high eggs and they could be recolonising.- really bad gas would also possibly suggest old faecal stuff .... These parasites will tend to hide high in the colon.. and can imbed themselves nicely....  any chance he would cope with a colonic hydrotherapy treatment?  Tracey  Just seen this Tracey, I have a funny little reading panel now and miss a lot of messages. I suppose it could be hatching eggs but I have been giving him so much parasite cleansers for so long I kind of hoped with this long a run we would catch the eggs, but no way of knowing for sure is there? He has really dreadful stinky gas as well, now what does that tell me?  Stimmy, climbing but BM's look good when he has them, a bit constipated and itching bottom. Garlic tends to give reflux.Vicky Re: Re: parasites  Could it be eggs that have buried into colon wall that are now hatching? This would create a new generation of the blessed critters to get rid of ..  Would he eat garlic.. This will kill the parasites off.   Tracey  Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one.   We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger?    Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging.  Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Hi Vicky  I was wondering is he was holding some faecal waste high in his colon... If it was old and dried out.. then the treatments may not be reaching these high eggs and they could be recolonising.- really bad gas would also possibly suggest old faecal stuff .... These parasites will tend to hide high in the colon.. and can imbed themselves nicely....  any chance he would cope with a colonic hydrotherapy treatment?  Tracey  Just seen this Tracey, I have a funny little reading panel now and miss a lot of messages. I suppose it could be hatching eggs but I have been giving him so much parasite cleansers for so long I kind of hoped with this long a run we would catch the eggs, but no way of knowing for sure is there? He has really dreadful stinky gas as well, now what does that tell me?  Stimmy, climbing but BM's look good when he has them, a bit constipated and itching bottom. Garlic tends to give reflux.Vicky Re: Re: parasites  Could it be eggs that have buried into colon wall that are now hatching? This would create a new generation of the blessed critters to get rid of ..  Would he eat garlic.. This will kill the parasites off.   Tracey  Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one.   We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger?    Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging.  Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Hi Vicky  I was wondering is he was holding some faecal waste high in his colon... If it was old and dried out.. then the treatments may not be reaching these high eggs and they could be recolonising.- really bad gas would also possibly suggest old faecal stuff .... These parasites will tend to hide high in the colon.. and can imbed themselves nicely....  any chance he would cope with a colonic hydrotherapy treatment?  Tracey  Just seen this Tracey, I have a funny little reading panel now and miss a lot of messages. I suppose it could be hatching eggs but I have been giving him so much parasite cleansers for so long I kind of hoped with this long a run we would catch the eggs, but no way of knowing for sure is there? He has really dreadful stinky gas as well, now what does that tell me?  Stimmy, climbing but BM's look good when he has them, a bit constipated and itching bottom. Garlic tends to give reflux.Vicky Re: Re: parasites  Could it be eggs that have buried into colon wall that are now hatching? This would create a new generation of the blessed critters to get rid of ..  Would he eat garlic.. This will kill the parasites off.   Tracey  Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one.   We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger?    Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging.  Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Wow that's good news Mx I'm also with sal and mandi with KIB. Sam has had awful bowel issues in te last 12 months.I have done 5 KIB in the last 6 weeks and sam is going everyday loads. Not had this in a long long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Ouch, £50 for one treatment,. I couldn't risk it, if he went the other way and completely flipped, which is always a possibility with there would be a complete scene for sure, husband just doesn't cope at all with 's more extreme behaviours, course if it was guaranteed we would step into financial hot water in a heartbeat, sadly though nothing is guaranteed. We are in a situation when 's red mist descends it's closely followed by his dads, bit like coping with 2 meltdowns simultaneously, sigh. Vicky Re: parasites Sounds like it was a very well spent £400. MArgaret > > This is so huge Sally, so glad it helped. I can;t put my finger on anything > specific with Sam just that he does well on it. I'm hoping as our gut bug > issues are less now that its helping with viral or inflammation issues. > > Mandi x > > > In a message dated 25/11/2010 18:29:17 GMT Standard Time, > sallygeorge@... writes: > > I know it is £50 a pop per treatment but i would highly recommend Kib 500 > from Benchmark Health. I have used 8 treatments (husband doesnt know the > cost so keep on down low!) of Kib 500 with on (11) and I am really > pleased with the results. After reading a paper that Natasa posted about > parasites and bacteria stopping the bowel muscles from moving the poop along, I > decided to try this. Before we used it we always had to use a supposititory > to stop H from being constipated, now he just goes every day (usually) > without one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Ouch, £50 for one treatment,. I couldn't risk it, if he went the other way and completely flipped, which is always a possibility with there would be a complete scene for sure, husband just doesn't cope at all with 's more extreme behaviours, course if it was guaranteed we would step into financial hot water in a heartbeat, sadly though nothing is guaranteed. We are in a situation when 's red mist descends it's closely followed by his dads, bit like coping with 2 meltdowns simultaneously, sigh. Vicky Re: parasites Sounds like it was a very well spent £400. MArgaret > > This is so huge Sally, so glad it helped. I can;t put my finger on anything > specific with Sam just that he does well on it. I'm hoping as our gut bug > issues are less now that its helping with viral or inflammation issues. > > Mandi x > > > In a message dated 25/11/2010 18:29:17 GMT Standard Time, > sallygeorge@... writes: > > I know it is £50 a pop per treatment but i would highly recommend Kib 500 > from Benchmark Health. I have used 8 treatments (husband doesnt know the > cost so keep on down low!) of Kib 500 with on (11) and I am really > pleased with the results. After reading a paper that Natasa posted about > parasites and bacteria stopping the bowel muscles from moving the poop along, I > decided to try this. Before we used it we always had to use a supposititory > to stop H from being constipated, now he just goes every day (usually) > without one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm also with sal and mandi with KIB. Sam has had awful bowel issues in te last 12 months. I have done 5 KIB in the last 6 weeks and sam is going everyday loads. Not had this in a long long time. Kirsty x > > > > This is so huge Sally, so glad it helped. I can;t put my finger on anything > > specific with Sam just that he does well on it. I'm hoping as our gut bug > > issues are less now that its helping with viral or inflammation issues. > > > > Mandi x > > > > > > In a message dated 25/11/2010 18:29:17 GMT Standard Time, > > sallygeorge@ writes: > > > > I know it is £50 a pop per treatment but i would highly recommend Kib 500 > > from Benchmark Health. I have used 8 treatments (husband doesnt know the > > cost so keep on down low!) of Kib 500 with on (11) and I am really > > pleased with the results. After reading a paper that Natasa posted about > > parasites and bacteria stopping the bowel muscles from moving the poop along, I > > decided to try this. Before we used it we always had to use a supposititory > > to stop H from being constipated, now he just goes every day (usually) > > without one. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm also with sal and mandi with KIB. Sam has had awful bowel issues in te last 12 months. I have done 5 KIB in the last 6 weeks and sam is going everyday loads. Not had this in a long long time. Kirsty x > > > > This is so huge Sally, so glad it helped. I can;t put my finger on anything > > specific with Sam just that he does well on it. I'm hoping as our gut bug > > issues are less now that its helping with viral or inflammation issues. > > > > Mandi x > > > > > > In a message dated 25/11/2010 18:29:17 GMT Standard Time, > > sallygeorge@ writes: > > > > I know it is £50 a pop per treatment but i would highly recommend Kib 500 > > from Benchmark Health. I have used 8 treatments (husband doesnt know the > > cost so keep on down low!) of Kib 500 with on (11) and I am really > > pleased with the results. After reading a paper that Natasa posted about > > parasites and bacteria stopping the bowel muscles from moving the poop along, I > > decided to try this. Before we used it we always had to use a supposititory > > to stop H from being constipated, now he just goes every day (usually) > > without one. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Hi Sal, this is wonderful news, kib500 sounds like brilliant stuff!!! Do you have a link to the paper you mentioned, i think i missed that one, i usually try to read the stuff Natasa posts as i know she is way ahead of the game on alot of things to do with autism! Nikki xxx > > > > > > Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a > > > whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like > > > you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do > > > we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure > > > where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black > > > walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is > > > not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + > > > constipation+digging. > > > Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. > > > Vicky > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Hi Sal, this is wonderful news, kib500 sounds like brilliant stuff!!! Do you have a link to the paper you mentioned, i think i missed that one, i usually try to read the stuff Natasa posts as i know she is way ahead of the game on alot of things to do with autism! Nikki xxx > > > > > > Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a > > > whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like > > > you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do > > > we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure > > > where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black > > > walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is > > > not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + > > > constipation+digging. > > > Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. > > > Vicky > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Hi Sal, this is wonderful news, kib500 sounds like brilliant stuff!!! Do you have a link to the paper you mentioned, i think i missed that one, i usually try to read the stuff Natasa posts as i know she is way ahead of the game on alot of things to do with autism! Nikki xxx > > > > > > Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a > > > whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like > > > you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do > > > we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure > > > where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black > > > walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is > > > not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + > > > constipation+digging. > > > Digging is a real parasite red flag to us. > > > Vicky > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Just to say we are on treatment 3 of Kib500 in a bid to get shot of some very persistent Blastys Hominis (Scuse spelling!) and the Spond-y-thingy-bobby-one I can never remember(!) which have been consistently present with A's tests. Did have acid-y tum on treatment one and needed activated charcoal, and he's had some viral rashes thrown out, none too serious. We have treatment four in a few weeks and then will do another CDSA so will let you know how we go re the parasite population. Mel x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Just to say we are on treatment 3 of Kib500 in a bid to get shot of some very persistent Blastys Hominis (Scuse spelling!) and the Spond-y-thingy-bobby-one I can never remember(!) which have been consistently present with A's tests. Did have acid-y tum on treatment one and needed activated charcoal, and he's had some viral rashes thrown out, none too serious. We have treatment four in a few weeks and then will do another CDSA so will let you know how we go re the parasite population. Mel x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 A few weeks ago someone posted aoubt 2 parasites that are not usually tested for. Does anyone have the link? thanks Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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