Re: Need Tetanus booster, but breastfeeding 3 week old son... Anybody advice?

[Guest guest]

Stefanie,

Read the info about it on Sheri N's website:

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm There are many who have been

harmed by it. I am one. I had terrible joint pain for months after my last

tetanus booster nearly 10 years ago. I will never have another one.

The injections also contain mercury, so absolutely your precious baby would

be at risk with breastfeeding.

Do your research. Once the shot has been given, there's no going back.

Kay

Need Tetanus booster, but breastfeeding 3 week old

son... Anybody advice?

> Hi there,

>

> I have a 3 week old son and I am exclusively breastfeeding him.

> Yesterday I cut my fingertip off when cooking. It was bleeding a lot

> and I got proper wound care at and ER room. I declined the tetanus

> yesterday. Today, I found out that my last Tetanus vaccination I

> know of for sure is from 1989. - Seventeen years ago...

>

> I also read the chapter from the Vaccination Guide two times

> already.

>

> I am scared to get the booster shot, I am equally scared to get

> Tetanus (although my friend assures me that because of the bleeding

> there was no way for the tetanus to get into the wound) and I have

> no clue how this vaccine will affect my child. My pedriatrician and

> my doctor think it is ok, but this doesn't make me feel save. (They

> are provaccination anyway).

>

> Does anybody have any goo advice/experience?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Stefanie

[Guest guest]

> Hi there,

>

> I have a 3 week old son and I am exclusively breastfeeding him.

> Yesterday I cut my fingertip off when cooking. It was bleeding a lot

> and I got proper wound care at and ER room. I declined the tetanus

> yesterday. Today, I found out that my last Tetanus vaccination I

> know of for sure is from 1989. - Seventeen years ago...

The thing is - how much tetanus is lingering in your kitchen?

Does the vaccine work?

>

> I also read the chapter from the Vaccination Guide two times

> already.

>

> I am scared to get the booster shot,

As you should be

I encouage you to let go of fear.

And read my pages on tetanus and the vaccine

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm

you are hardly at risk here for tetanus

I know it is scary when you are first starting.

Sheri

I am equally scared to get

> Tetanus (although my friend assures me that because of the bleeding

> there was no way for the tetanus to get into the wound) and I have

> no clue how this vaccine will affect my child. My pedriatrician and

> my doctor think it is ok, but this doesn't make me feel save. (They

> are provaccination anyway).

>

> Does anybody have any goo advice/experience?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Stefanie

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>Hi there,

>>

>>I have a 3 week old son and I am exclusively breastfeeding him.

>>Yesterday I cut my fingertip off when cooking. It was bleeding a lot

>>and I got proper wound care at and ER room. I declined the tetanus

>>yesterday.

>>

I'm glad you declined, and don't worry. I cut the tip off my finger (in

a food processor) a few years ago too. Talk about pain. And I wouldn't

go to the emergency room (no insurance). Tetanus is NOT a worry when

you cut something off. Heck, I don't think it's even a worry if you

puncture something deeply, as long as you make it bleed. You won't get

tetanus from your cooking accident. The hospital was just covering it's

you-know-what by trying to get you to take the vaccine.

There are lots of baddies in vaccines. Let me tell you. Before I got

on the road to no-vaxxing, I had (in my late 20's) both an MMR booster

shot and the usual 10-year-or-you'll-die tetanus booster. Well, within

two years I had developed Reynaud's Syndrome :-( Not something fun to

live with. I'm working with a homeopath now.

Don't put anything into yourself that you wouldn't want going into your

child. That's the best advice I can offer.

Hope the pain fades soon. Take care,

Bobbett

[Guest guest]

You could have blood drawn to check your immunity.Some people never require a

booster,while others show no immunity after a year.There have been studies that

show high titer patients have gotten tetanus.Makes you wonder:what the heck is

the point then?The 10 year thing is just a general recommendation.

Having a sore hand and caring for a baby is hard enough.Add to that either

tetanus(very unlikely)or a reaction(who knows),and you may need to have family

come in an help.Since you got proper wound care for now I would decline the

shot,but consider having titers done and take it from there later on.Personally

I think over all health and wound care will determine whether one gets

tetanus,but then there is always that oddball case.

Best wishes and healings whatever you decide!

ps.read the insert to the vaccine before agreeing to it.

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[Guest guest]

> You could have blood drawn to check your immunity.Some people never

> require a booster,while others show no immunity after a year.

Hi all

JUST AN FYI - vaccines do NOT give immunity and antibody titers after

vaccines do not mean immunity.

There have

> been studies that show high titer patients have gotten tetanus.Makes you

> wonder:what the heck is the point then?The 10 year thing is just a general

> recommendation.

Really really look at this - all vaccines are dangerous. No vaccine gives

immunity.

>

> Having a sore hand and caring for a baby is hard enough.Add to that

> either tetanus(very unlikely)or a reaction(who knows),and you may need

> to have family come in an help.Since you got proper wound care for now

> I would decline the shot,

And even if you didn't do proper wound care, the vaccine does not give

immunity.

And how much tetanus is in your kitchen. All need to investigate the

reality of the risk, the disease and the vaccine.

Sheri

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>>but consider having titers done and take it

> from there later on.Personally I think over all health and wound care

> will determine whether one gets tetanus,but then there is always that

> oddball case.

> Best wishes and healings whatever you decide!

>

> ps.read the insert to the vaccine before agreeing to it.

[Guest guest]

One way to test if the vaccine is providing immunity/protection is to expose

oneself to the disease. I don't know anyone willing to do that

Then ofcourse there are those who never have a vaccine,are exposed,and don't

get the disease.

There is so much we don't know about how the body works!

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[Guest guest]

You're highly unlikely to get tetanus from cutting yourself whilst

cooking unless perhaps your kitchens in a paddock somewhere and you

dont pracitce cleanliness.

I have never had a tetanus shot in my life, no-one in my family has

and we have all cut ourselves in far more risky places than this. (My

grandparents lived on a farm for a while amongst other tings...) (-:

Read up more on the vaccination and how inefective it is and also

what tetanus is and where it comes from etc. You will put your mind

at rest if you do!

~ Jowanna.

>

> Hi there,

>

> I have a 3 week old son and I am exclusively breastfeeding him.

> Yesterday I cut my fingertip off when cooking. It was bleeding a

lot

> and I got proper wound care at and ER room. I declined the tetanus

> yesterday. Today, I found out that my last Tetanus vaccination I

> know of for sure is from 1989. - Seventeen years ago...

>

> I also read the chapter from the Vaccination Guide two times

> already.

>

> I am scared to get the booster shot, I am equally scared to get

> Tetanus (although my friend assures me that because of the bleeding

> there was no way for the tetanus to get into the wound) and I have

> no clue how this vaccine will affect my child. My pedriatrician and

> my doctor think it is ok, but this doesn't make me feel save. (They

> are provaccination anyway).

>

> Does anybody have any goo advice/experience?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Stefanie

>

[Guest guest]

I love the left-handed emoticons, Jowanna (assuming you are left-handed, of

course). You don't see them too often; somehow it helps balance me when I'm

reading at the computer....Anita

Jowanna <aussiepunkshocker@...> wrote:

.I have never had a tetanus shot in my life, no-one in my family has

and we have all cut ourselves in far more risky places than this. (My

grandparents lived on a farm for a while amongst other tings...) (-:

~ Jowanna.

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[Guest guest]

Hi all,

thank you so much for all the input.

I actually went to the doctor again and asked them to check my

antibody titers. (My best friends suggestion - she is a veterinarian

homeopath in Germany). This was before I read all your replies.

Now, I know that even this result will not be very helpful...

By the way, I was concerned about the tetanus living in some

residues of earth on the peel of my organic potateo - is it

ridiculous to be concerned about this?

I guess, I will follow your advice and just let go of the shot... if

I just procastinate the decision long enough the 72 hours will be

gone by anyway )...Letting go of my fear is easy during the day,

at night I am worried about dying from Tetanus and leaving my two

kids without their mother, I am equally worried about the vaccine

reactions...

Janet, I am so sorry to hear your story - it made me almost cry...

thanks for sharing.

Stefanie

[Guest guest]

I watch alot of those medical shows on tv, like " Trama, Life in the

Er " and they are always asking the patients if they have had a

tetnus shot. It doesn't even matter what happened, even a car

accident. I think it must be routine to ask this.

Tara

>

> Hi all,

>

> thank you so much for all the input.

>

> I actually went to the doctor again and asked them to check my

> antibody titers. (My best friends suggestion - she is a

veterinarian

> homeopath in Germany). This was before I read all your replies.

>

> Now, I know that even this result will not be very helpful...

>

> By the way, I was concerned about the tetanus living in some

> residues of earth on the peel of my organic potateo - is it

> ridiculous to be concerned about this?

>

> I guess, I will follow your advice and just let go of the shot...

if

> I just procastinate the decision long enough the 72 hours will be

> gone by anyway )...Letting go of my fear is easy during the day,

> at night I am worried about dying from Tetanus and leaving my two

> kids without their mother, I am equally worried about the vaccine

> reactions...

>

> Janet, I am so sorry to hear your story - it made me almost cry...

> thanks for sharing.

>

> Stefanie

>

[Guest guest]

My husband was in a car accident and scratched his arm. At the hospital, they

relentlessly pushed the tetanus on him, but he held strong and resisted. Do you

know they didn't even have the decency to even clean the cut before discharging

him. It made absolutely no sense; the whole thing is backwards....Anita

Tara Maue <orrin_reilly@...> wrote: I watch alot of those medical shows

on tv, like " Trama, Life in the

Er " and they are always asking the patients if they have had a

tetnus shot. It doesn't even matter what happened, even a car

accident. I think it must be routine to ask this.

Tara

>

> Hi all,

>

> thank you so much for all the input.

>

> I actually went to the doctor again and asked them to check my

> antibody titers. (My best friends suggestion - she is a

veterinarian

> homeopath in Germany). This was before I read all your replies.

>

> Now, I know that even this result will not be very helpful...

>

> By the way, I was concerned about the tetanus living in some

> residues of earth on the peel of my organic potateo - is it

> ridiculous to be concerned about this?

>

> I guess, I will follow your advice and just let go of the shot...

if

> I just procastinate the decision long enough the 72 hours will be

> gone by anyway )...Letting go of my fear is easy during the day,

> at night I am worried about dying from Tetanus and leaving my two

> kids without their mother, I am equally worried about the vaccine

> reactions...

>

> Janet, I am so sorry to hear your story - it made me almost cry...

> thanks for sharing.

>

> Stefanie

>

[Guest guest]

It's because tetanus can infect even minor abrasions, especially " dirty

ones. " I think in real life they recommend it partly as just a safety

precaution and partly to cover their butts. On TV, they're trying to do

a public service of " raising awareness " of getting your tetanus shot...

and covering their butts.

I have to say, tetanus is one of the shots I have been most concerned

about skipping. I'm pretty conservative about weighing the pros and

cons of vaxxes, but the research (some on Sheri's website, some online

at emedicine.com (a website for medical professionals, I believe, based

on the technical language used)) has led me to think that the chances

of getting tetanus are slim, and there is a high recovery rate. Yes,

it's a pretty yucky, dramatic thing to get, usually requires

hospitalization with sedatives, antitoxin, etc..) I don't know what the

comparable chances of suffering damage from the vaccine are, but if it

were me, I'd rather chance getting tetanus, especially because tetanus,

unless you get brain damage from it, will not give you permanent damage

the way damage from the vax will. You can be exposed to tetanus and not

get it, and it really does need to be an anaerobic (no oxygen)

environment because tetanus bacilli cannot survive in an oxygenated

environment. That's why puncture wounds are usually the ones people

worry about most. Cutting off your fingertip... lots of oxygen there,

and lots of bleeding to cleanse the wound.

You know, I don't know the last time I had my tetanus shot. I wouldn't

even think to get it unless I specifically had a deep rusty nail wound,

because that's the example I always heard. However, in the past few

years I've had plenty of weird cuts, dirty cuts, even a cat bite from a

FERAL cat that punctured my fingernail... and all they gave me was an

antibiotic for that, no tetanus shot. So, clearly, it's a hit-and-miss

worry for even the medical profession. Of course, they're ramping up

alarm about lots of things in this country, so don't be surprised if

people getting their tetanus shots doesn't become a big push in the

medical community at some point in the future.

-Angie

On Sunday, November 5, 2006, at 04:22 PM, Tara Maue wrote:

> I watch alot of those medical shows on tv, like " Trama, Life in the

> Er " and they are always asking the patients if they have had a

> tetnus shot. It doesn't even matter what happened, even a car

> accident. I think it must be routine to ask this.

>

> Tara

>

>

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > thank you so much for all the input.

> >

> > I actually went to the doctor again and asked them to check my

> > antibody titers. (My best friends suggestion - she is a

> veterinarian

> > homeopath in Germany). This was before I read all your replies.

> >

> > Now, I know that even this result will not be very helpful...

> >

> > By the way, I was concerned about the tetanus living in some

> > residues of earth on the peel of my organic potateo - is it

> > ridiculous to be concerned about this?

> >

> > I guess, I will follow your advice and just let go of the shot...

> if

> > I just procastinate the decision long enough the 72 hours will be

> > gone by anyway )...Letting go of my fear is easy during the day,

> > at night I am worried about dying from Tetanus and leaving my two

> > kids without their mother, I am equally worried about the vaccine

> > reactions...

> >

> > Janet, I am so sorry to hear your story - it made me almost cry...

> > thanks for sharing.

> >

> > Stefanie

> >

>

>

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" At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

the ability. " -Ron White

[Guest guest]

Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote: I don't know what the

comparable chances of suffering damage from the vaccine are, but if it

were me, I'd rather chance getting tetanus, especially because tetanus,

unless you get brain damage from it, will not give you permanent damage

the way damage from the vax will.

The Physicians Desk Reference mentions Guilliane Barre Syndrome as a possible

side-effect....Anita

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[Guest guest]

> It's because tetanus can infect even minor abrasions, especially " dirty

> ones. "

Sorry, this is not accurate

It has to be where there is no oxygen - deep puncture wounds or severe

burns with lots of layers of dead skin, etc

See my webpages for the reality

Sheri

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm

[Guest guest]

I hope they all don't get so overvaxxed that they go running all over the

streets killing all signs of life like in the movies. Jenn & K

Re: Re: Need Tetanus booster, but breastfeeding 3

week old son... Anybody advice?

> It's because tetanus can infect even minor abrasions, especially " dirty

> ones. " I think in real life they recommend it partly as just a safety

> precaution and partly to cover their butts. On TV, they're trying to do

> a public service of " raising awareness " of getting your tetanus shot...

> and covering their butts.

>

> I have to say, tetanus is one of the shots I have been most concerned

> about skipping. I'm pretty conservative about weighing the pros and

> cons of vaxxes, but the research (some on Sheri's website, some online

> at emedicine.com (a website for medical professionals, I believe, based

> on the technical language used)) has led me to think that the chances

> of getting tetanus are slim, and there is a high recovery rate. Yes,

> it's a pretty yucky, dramatic thing to get, usually requires

> hospitalization with sedatives, antitoxin, etc..) I don't know what the

> comparable chances of suffering damage from the vaccine are, but if it

> were me, I'd rather chance getting tetanus, especially because tetanus,

> unless you get brain damage from it, will not give you permanent damage

> the way damage from the vax will. You can be exposed to tetanus and not

> get it, and it really does need to be an anaerobic (no oxygen)

> environment because tetanus bacilli cannot survive in an oxygenated

> environment. That's why puncture wounds are usually the ones people

> worry about most. Cutting off your fingertip... lots of oxygen there,

> and lots of bleeding to cleanse the wound.

>

> You know, I don't know the last time I had my tetanus shot. I wouldn't

> even think to get it unless I specifically had a deep rusty nail wound,

> because that's the example I always heard. However, in the past few

> years I've had plenty of weird cuts, dirty cuts, even a cat bite from a

> FERAL cat that punctured my fingernail... and all they gave me was an

> antibiotic for that, no tetanus shot. So, clearly, it's a hit-and-miss

> worry for even the medical profession. Of course, they're ramping up

> alarm about lots of things in this country, so don't be surprised if

> people getting their tetanus shots doesn't become a big push in the

> medical community at some point in the future.

>

> -Angie

>

>

> On Sunday, November 5, 2006, at 04:22 PM, Tara Maue wrote:

>

> > I watch alot of those medical shows on tv, like " Trama, Life in the

> > Er " and they are always asking the patients if they have had a

> > tetnus shot. It doesn't even matter what happened, even a car

> > accident. I think it must be routine to ask this.

> >

> > Tara

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > thank you so much for all the input.

> > >

> > > I actually went to the doctor again and asked them to check my

> > > antibody titers. (My best friends suggestion - she is a

> > veterinarian

> > > homeopath in Germany). This was before I read all your replies.

> > >

> > > Now, I know that even this result will not be very helpful...

> > >

> > > By the way, I was concerned about the tetanus living in some

> > > residues of earth on the peel of my organic potateo - is it

> > > ridiculous to be concerned about this?

> > >

> > > I guess, I will follow your advice and just let go of the shot...

> > if

> > > I just procastinate the decision long enough the 72 hours will be

> > > gone by anyway )...Letting go of my fear is easy during the day,

> > > at night I am worried about dying from Tetanus and leaving my two

> > > kids without their mother, I am equally worried about the vaccine

> > > reactions...

> > >

> > > Janet, I am so sorry to hear your story - it made me almost cry...

> > > thanks for sharing.

> > >

> > > Stefanie

> > >

> >

> >

> **********

> " At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

> the ability. " -Ron White

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It just occurred to me that I have a cousin who is sometimes a

producer for one of those shows. I wont say which one. She's also

unvaccinated and I am going to ask her about what would happen if

the routein tetanus shots were taken out of the scripts. I bet all

hell would break loose! I cant guarentee that I'll get an answer

though.

And yes Anita I am left handed (-:

~ Jowanna

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > thank you so much for all the input.

> >

> > I actually went to the doctor again and asked them to check my

> > antibody titers. (My best friends suggestion - she is a

> veterinarian

> > homeopath in Germany). This was before I read all your replies.

> >

> > Now, I know that even this result will not be very helpful...

> >

> > By the way, I was concerned about the tetanus living in some

> > residues of earth on the peel of my organic potateo - is it

> > ridiculous to be concerned about this?

> >

> > I guess, I will follow your advice and just let go of the

shot...

> if

> > I just procastinate the decision long enough the 72 hours will

be

> > gone by anyway )...Letting go of my fear is easy during the

day,

> > at night I am worried about dying from Tetanus and leaving my

two

> > kids without their mother, I am equally worried about the

vaccine

> > reactions...

> >

> > Janet, I am so sorry to hear your story - it made me almost

cry...

> > thanks for sharing.

> >

> > Stefanie

> >

>