Baby Dies

[Guest guest]

>

> I know lots of people who co-sleep and it works out fine for them,

but it's probably not fair to say that the fear is all hype.

>

> A woman in my husband's office is married to a firefighter. He

had to go to the call here in town where the dad rolled over on the

baby and suffocated it. He absolutely would not allow any co-

sleeping in their house after that and I can't say that I blame him

after witnessing the tragedy in that family. When they had kids they

had the bassinet right by the bed and the mom nursed like that.

>

> So while there are enormous benefits, let's make sure we don't

poo-poo the real-life stories that do, rarely, happen.

**** without knowing exactly what caused the father to roll over and

suffocate that child, it's hard to even make a comparison to those

who do it every night (like myself) and have no problems. I can

imagine it would be difficult for anyone who witnesses this to allow

it, but I would hope that they would rather try to figure out why it

happened in the first place... and acknowledge that it can safely

occur. Not poo-pooing.

[Guest guest]

I think what you've written is wonderful. Esp. about treading lightly.

-Angie

On Thursday, October 26, 2006, at 02:23 PM, jmshep888 wrote:

> I am a strong advocate of co-sleeping, and I believe that the

> physiological regulation of the baby's breathing and heartbeat with

> the mother's makes it safer regarding SIDS, along with the factor of

> breastfeeding. And the fact that the mother is right there and will

> most likely wake up if the baby stopped breathing. But I have non-

> toxic crib mattresses on my website because I know that the majority

> of babies in the U.S. are sleeping in cribs. And no matter how much

> we get the message out about co-sleeping, many will still choose to

> put their babies to sleep in cribs. From all the research I've seen,

> I believe that babies can die sleeping on a toxic mattress. These

> babies need to be protected.

>

> Would these babies be protected from the gases in the mattresses if

> they weren't vaccinated? My guess is that most of them would be,

> since vaccines can make a baby more vulnerable to the gases. I know

> that babies die from vaccinations alone – I'm very aware of that. But

> I think it's also true that some unvaccinated babies die from the

> gases in toxic mattresses. From what I understand many of the SIDS

> babies in NZ were not vaccinated.

>

> I had a heart-breaking conversation a few weeks ago with a pregnant

> woman who called me to order a mattress. She said her first baby died

> and was labeled SIDS. Now that she's pregnant again, she is going out

> of her mind with trying to do everything she possibly can to prevent

> it from happening again. The first thing I asked her was if her baby

> that died was vaccinated. He had received no vaccines at all. I also

> told her my views about co-sleeping. Her baby died in his parents'

> bed and that's why she wants her new baby to sleep in a crib. She

> also exclusively breastfed him. I can't imagine how this woman must

> feel, constantly wondering if it was something she could have done

> differently and so much worry and fear overshadowing the joy of her

> new baby. All I could say to her was that it was NOT her fault, she

> did the best she could and so much more than what most parents do to

> keep her baby safe. She was an extremely good mother. Maybe the toxic

> gas in the parents' bed was the cause (although I didn't say this to

> her). Adult mattresses, not just crib mattresses, are toxic too. Or

> sometimes maybe a baby's spirit just decides it's time to go even

> after such a short time, and we just never know why.

>

> I think it's very important to tread lightly when we talk to SIDS

> families when we know a baby was vaccinated or wasn't breastfed.

> There is already so much guilt and suffering. They don't need any

> more guilt. Most of the time they've only done what their doctors

> told them is right. But, it gets complicated since I do see it as an

> important thing to educate people to try to prevent future deaths.

> And many SIDS parents go on to have more babies. They need to know.

>

> If you know of babies under a year old who are sleeping in cribs, in

> addition to talking to their parents about vaccines, breastfeeding

> and co-sleeping, please also try to let them know about the toxicity

> of mattresses.

>

> More about toxic mattresses:

>

> http://www.healthychild.com/SIDS-crib-death-cause.htm

>

> http://www.healthychild.com/toxic-chemicals-baby-mattress.htm

>

> Jane

>

> Jane Sheppard

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>

> >

> > Hi ,

> > this is all very true. Co sleeping really helps to prevent Sids and

> of

> > course bf, especially if the baby is vaccinated. NO mattress, no

> > matter how fancy and safe, will ever replace a mother's side and her

> > breast for safety. Don't believe all the nonsense they tell you

> about

> > the dangers of cosleeping, it is all done to sell cribs, baby

> > monitors, and other baby equipment that you don't need for a baby.

> All

> > a baby needs is its mother and her breastmilk, some clothes and

> maybe

> > some nappies (diapers). Everything else is just the baby industry

> > cashing in on our fears.

> > Ingrid

> >

>

>

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" At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

the ability. " -Ron White

[Guest guest]

<<Vaccines are NOT the cause of every bad thing out there.>>

No, just most of them. :-)

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 05/06.

Vaccine free since 1999.

[Guest guest]

You are right, they are not the cause of everything bad, but quite a bit of it.

I know that the sids link may sound kind of hokey at first, but when read about

it, it really makes some sort of sense. For example, I had read somewhere that

sids isn't really heard of in Japan (or was it China), they don't vaccinate

until the children are two (?). I know that this is purely anecdotal, but,

there was a woman in another group of mine who had lost a baby at birth and had

created a web memorial to him. On his page, there were links to other

childrens' sites, I looked at some of them, and when I read the stories I

noticed that alot of them had just seen their doctors a day or two before they

died, for their vaccines.

Not all cases of sids are from vaccines, of course, but there probably are quite

a few.

--

Sara

Find out what stinks in Genesee County!

http://geneseecountystinks.blogspot.com

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Totten <afaltotten@...>

> >However, SIDS was around before widespread use of vaccines.

>

> This is not accurate

That's just what I've read elsewhere, in places that are not discussing

vaccines and their relation to SIDS but just discussing SIDS in general.

>

> Please take a look at what I sent on SIDS

> Go to the webpage and read if you deleted

> http://groups.google.com/group/vaccinations

>

Well, you know, maybe if I find a few more hours in my day I will. I

can't possibly keep on top of all the emails I get. From what I

understand, the mattress-wrapping thing in New Zealand has worked. I

don't think anyone on this list should underestimate the huge toxic

load in our environment around us, and the offgassing of chemicals that

makes the pollution in our homes much, much worse than outdoors.

Vaccines are NOT the cause of every bad thing out there.

-Angie

[Guest guest]

I don't disagree that vaccines may trigger SIDS in many cases. I think

any " toxic load " or stress can do it, and vaccines certainly qualify.

But I don't think they're the only thing. Actually, somebody earlier

posted an email in which she discussed non-vaccinated children who had

died of SIDS. I'm a big believer in the mattress theory, but probably

every potential cause has a grain of truth in it (the vitamin C

connection was a new one for me, and very interesting). -Angie

On Thursday, October 26, 2006, at 10:13 PM, SaraShaughnessy@...

wrote:

> You are right, they are not the cause of everything bad, but quite a

> bit of it. I know that the sids link may sound kind of hokey at first,

> but when read about it, it really makes some sort of sense. For

> example, I had read somewhere that sids isn't really heard of in Japan

> (or was it China), they don't vaccinate until the children are two

> (?). I know that this is purely anecdotal, but, there was a woman in

> another group of mine who had lost a baby at birth and had created a

> web memorial to him. On his page, there were links to other childrens'

> sites, I looked at some of them, and when I read the stories I noticed

> that alot of them had just seen their doctors a day or two before they

> died, for their vaccines.

>

> Not all cases of sids are from vaccines, of course, but there probably

> are quite a few.

>

> --

> Sara

> Find out what stinks in Genesee County!

> http://geneseecountystinks.blogspot.com

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: Totten <afaltotten@...>

> > >However, SIDS was around before widespread use of vaccines.

> >

> > This is not accurate

>

> That's just what I've read elsewhere, in places that are not discussing

> vaccines and their relation to SIDS but just discussing SIDS in

> general.

>

> >

> > Please take a look at what I sent on SIDS

> > Go to the webpage and read if you deleted

> > http://groups.google.com/group/vaccinations

> >

>

> Well, you know, maybe if I find a few more hours in my day I will. I

> can't possibly keep on top of all the emails I get. From what I

> understand, the mattress-wrapping thing in New Zealand has worked. I

> don't think anyone on this list should underestimate the huge toxic

> load in our environment around us, and the offgassing of chemicals that

> makes the pollution in our homes much, much worse than outdoors.

> Vaccines are NOT the cause of every bad thing out there.

>

> -Angie

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 01:32 PM 10/26/2006 -0400, you wrote:

>> >However, SIDS was around before widespread use of vaccines.

>>

>> This is not accurate

>

>That's just what I've read elsewhere, in places that are not discussing

>vaccines and their relation to SIDS but just discussing SIDS in general.

>

>

>>

>> Please take a look at what I sent on SIDS

>> Go to the webpage and read if you deleted

>> http://groups.google.com/group/vaccinations

>>

>

>Well, you know, maybe if I find a few more hours in my day I will. I

>can't possibly keep on top of all the emails I get.

I hear you - I get around 500! ;-)

>> From what I

>understand, the mattress-wrapping thing in New Zealand has worked. I

>don't think anyone on this list should underestimate the huge toxic

>load in our environment around us, and the offgassing of chemicals that

>makes the pollution in our homes much, much worse than outdoors.

>Vaccines are NOT the cause of every bad thing out there.

>

>-Angie

Yes, you are right - vaccines aren't the cause of everything.

I would suggest that those that do mattress wrapping may also not do vaccines.

Would take some looking into

Sheri

>

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At 02:52 PM 10/26/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi ,

> May I ask who wrote the comment above yours please? Just curious.

>

> Anita

>

> <OhioVaxInfo@...> wrote:

> <><<Vaccines are NOT the cause of every bad thing out there.>>

wrote it>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jane,

thank you for this. I hope I have not hurt anyones feelings with my

post about cosleeping and mattresses etc. I did not mean to. Sorry if

I did!

I am a bf counsellor and totally aware of the importance of

communicating with sensitivity. I just let my hair down too much on

this list at times but never intend to cause any upset.

I totally agree that we have to be very careful when speaking to

parents who lost a baby to sids and reassure it was not their fault. I

also believe we don't always know the cause, it may have been

something physical, we just don't know. But in many cases we do and it

is worth learning about the dangers.

Ingrid-

[Guest guest]

<<May I ask who wrote the comment above yours please? Just curious.>>

Hi Anita, I think it was , but I could be wrong. Look back

through the posts on that thread, it was the last line of the post.

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 05/06.

Vaccine free since 1999.

[Guest guest]

> >

> >Well, you know, maybe if I find a few more hours in my day I will. I

> >can't possibly keep on top of all the emails I get.

>

> I hear you - I get around 500! ;-)

Sheri, I'm impressed by all the effort you put in for this list and

especially helping people with homeopathy questions when you stand to

gain nothing from it (other than the sense of helping others).

>

> Yes, you are right - vaccines aren't the cause of everything.

Yay! My day is getting better! :-)

>

> I would suggest that those that do mattress wrapping may also not do

> vaccines.

> Would take some looking into

>

Very possible. You start looking into all sources of toxins.

Take care, Sheri -Angie

[Guest guest]

She came forward with it already, but thanks. Just curious...that's all.

Anita

<OhioVaxInfo@...> wrote:

<>

Hi Anita, I think it was , but I could be wrong. Look back

through the posts on that thread, it was the last line of the post.

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 05/06.

Vaccine free since 1999.

[Guest guest]

> Or

> sometimes maybe a baby's spirit just decides it's time to go even

> after such a short time, and we just never know why.

>

Excellent post as always, Jane, but here you have summed it up - this is the

bottom line whatever the *material* cause.

Love, light and peace,

Sue

[Guest guest]

Respectfully, and not wishing to get too argumentative here - is it not

possible that all cases of SIDS might be vaccine-related?

I'd be interested to know if there is anyone on this list with a FULLY

UNVAXED child, who is THEMSELVES FULLY UNVAXED, as is the baby's father, and

both sets of grandparents. If there is a person here who fills these

criteria, I shall be astonished. (Not shouting, just looking for emphasis)

I am sure in my own mind that vaccinations could be traced to the vast

majority of SIDS cases whether the relationship is directly to the baby or

hereditary from the parents/grandparents. There may be other factors, but I

am personally convinced that the susceptibility is created from vaccination

damage.

Sue

> That would be me.

>

> Jess: I can agree with you that vaccines are the cause of SOME of the

> bad things out there, but most might be pushing it a bit,

> IMHO...--Angie :-)

[Guest guest]

I guess if you're going to include the parents and grandparents, it's

possible, provided that SIDS never existed before the modern vaccine

era. Although I know one of the articles Sheri N. put out asserts that

it was not around prior to vaccines, the article is also hypothesizing

that it was vaccines that did it. I have read elsewhere articles NOT

related to a hypothesis about vaccines that suggested that SIDS has

been around a long time, just misdiagnosed and so forth (for example,

co-sleeping families have been accused of " smothering " when, in fact,

the child died of SIDS). So if you believe, as I do, that SIDS was

around before vaccines were widely used, then, no, not all cases can be

traced to vaccines.

There was a post last week from someone who knew of cases where the

child who died was unvaccinated. I don't know about the child's parents

and grandparents. Sheri N. also posted something very interesting about

how a baby's breathing changes as a result of a stress. Vaccines are

such a stress and were specifically mentioned in the post/article, but

the article also said that there could be other causes. I think the

mattresses are to blame, quite frankly, because babies die " between "

vaccinations too, although SIDS rates do spike right at the ages when

vaccines are given, so there does seem to be a connection. I'll repost

both the articles I mentioned here.

I'm not sure I believe that vaccine damage can be inherited in the way

you mention, at least not in how it would affect a baby's breathing, as

opposed to its immune system. By the way, when I say that mattresses

" are to blame, " I mean as the proverbial " tipping point, " not the

cause. Since most babies sleep on these mattresses, but not all babies

die of SIDS (same with vaccinations), it must be some genetic or

constitutional weakness in the infant that makes them succumb. This, I

think, is the real cause of SIDS, and why it has probably existed for

millennia (and why parents should not feel guilty). But the toxic

environment they have to live in (mattresses, vaccines) has made the

number of cases increase. Personally, I think the SIDS phenomenon is

too complex to blame on any one environmental cause, even vaccines or

mattresses. -Angie

On Sunday, October 29, 2006, at 09:42 PM, mum2mishka wrote:

> Respectfully, and not wishing to get too argumentative here - is it not

> possible that all cases of SIDS might be vaccine-related?

>

> I'd be interested to know if there is anyone on this list with a FULLY

> UNVAXED child, who is THEMSELVES FULLY UNVAXED, as is the baby's

> father, and

> both sets of grandparents. If there is a person here who fills these

> criteria, I shall be astonished. (Not shouting, just looking for

> emphasis)

>

> I am sure in my own mind that vaccinations could be traced to the vast

> majority of SIDS cases whether the relationship is directly to the

> baby or

> hereditary from the parents/grandparents. There may be other factors,

> but I

> am personally convinced that the susceptibility is created from

> vaccination

> damage.

>

> Sue

>

> > That would be me.

> >

> > Jess: I can agree with you that vaccines are the cause of SOME of the

> > bad things out there, but most might be pushing it a bit,

> > IMHO...--Angie :-)

>

>

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" At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

the ability. " -Ron White

[Guest guest]

I can almost confirm that vaccine damage can be passed on. I believe

they can weaken the constitution of a person and then this is passed

on the next generation. We are witnessing this with our son right now

he has inherited the weak chest from his dad who got a lot of jabs,

antibiotics and other medicine. I was the same, I was given the same

stuff but was lucky to have all the childhood diseases.

So, yes, Sue, I agree with you.

Ingrid

>

> Respectfully, and not wishing to get too argumentative here - is it not

> possible that all cases of SIDS might be vaccine-related?

>

> I'd be interested to know if there is anyone on this list with a FULLY

> UNVAXED child, who is THEMSELVES FULLY UNVAXED, as is the baby's

father, and

> both sets of grandparents. If there is a person here who fills these

> criteria, I shall be astonished. (Not shouting, just looking for

emphasis)

>

> I am sure in my own mind that vaccinations could be traced to the vast

> majority of SIDS cases whether the relationship is directly to the

baby or

> hereditary from the parents/grandparents. There may be other

factors, but I

> am personally convinced that the susceptibility is created from

vaccination

> damage.

>

> Sue

>

> > That would be me.

> >

> > Jess: I can agree with you that vaccines are the cause of SOME of the

> > bad things out there, but most might be pushing it a bit,

> > IMHO...--Angie :-)

>

[Guest guest]

I totally agree with Sue and Ingrid. ALL vaccines leave their damage

behind. It may not be seen immediately, but they damage the life force

therefore making that person and subsequent generations vulnerable to

illness, disease, and even death. So yes, I'd say vaccine damage has it's

mark on every baby who dies of SIDS. There may be other contributors that,

combined with vaccine damage, pushed a particular baby over the edge, but

vaccines are a major culprit.

Kay

Re: Baby Dies

>I can almost confirm that vaccine damage can be passed on. I believe

> they can weaken the constitution of a person and then this is passed

> on the next generation. We are witnessing this with our son right now

> he has inherited the weak chest from his dad who got a lot of jabs,

> antibiotics and other medicine. I was the same, I was given the same

> stuff but was lucky to have all the childhood diseases.

> So, yes, Sue, I agree with you.

> Ingrid

>

>

>>

>> Respectfully, and not wishing to get too argumentative here - is it not

>> possible that all cases of SIDS might be vaccine-related?

>>

>> I'd be interested to know if there is anyone on this list with a FULLY

>> UNVAXED child, who is THEMSELVES FULLY UNVAXED, as is the baby's

> father, and

>> both sets of grandparents. If there is a person here who fills these

>> criteria, I shall be astonished. (Not shouting, just looking for

> emphasis)

>>

>> I am sure in my own mind that vaccinations could be traced to the vast

>> majority of SIDS cases whether the relationship is directly to the

> baby or

>> hereditary from the parents/grandparents. There may be other

> factors, but I

>> am personally convinced that the susceptibility is created from

> vaccination

>> damage.

>>

>> Sue

>>

>> > That would be me.

>> >

>> > Jess: I can agree with you that vaccines are the cause of SOME of the

>> > bad things out there, but most might be pushing it a bit,

>> > IMHO...--Angie :-)

[Guest guest]

> So yes, I'd say vaccine damage has it's

> mark on every baby who dies of SIDS. There may be other contributors

> that,

> combined with vaccine damage, pushed a particular baby over the edge,

> but

> vaccines are a major culprit.

>

Then how do you account for SIDS before the era of vaccines, or in

unvaccinated populations?

Why do vaccines " damage the life force " more than other toxins?

[Guest guest]

SIDS started being noted in the 50s, when vaccines became more popular and

widespread. Not to say a baby never died of unexplained reasons before

vaccines. People have been damaged with suppressive treatments for

generations.

Vaccines are toxins given in ever increasing quantities to our babies and

children. Those developing bodies and immune systems dont' have a chance

when they are bombarded with all those diseases, chemicals, foreign DNA,

etc. Look at the number of recommended vaccines given in the first year of

life alone. It's inevitable that it will cause damage. The normal route of

defense against disease is bypassed when the vaccines are injected.

It's simply a system overload for these tiny babies. No other toxin is

given in such magnitudes to developing children.

Does that help at all?

Kay

Re: Re: Baby Dies

> Then how do you account for SIDS before the era of vaccines, or in

> unvaccinated populations?

>

> Why do vaccines " damage the life force " more than other toxins?

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, but I think environmental toxins can seriously harm too,

including those ever present around developing children (stuff in

mattresses, for example). Think of lead. Think of the neurotoxins in

aspartame. -Angie

On Monday, October 30, 2006, at 06:42 PM, Kay wrote:

> SIDS started being noted in the 50s, when vaccines became more popular

> and

> widespread. Not to say a baby never died of unexplained reasons before

> vaccines. People have been damaged with suppressive treatments for

> generations.

>

> Vaccines are toxins given in ever increasing quantities to our babies

> and

> children. Those developing bodies and immune systems dont' have a

> chance

> when they are bombarded with all those diseases, chemicals, foreign

> DNA,

> etc. Look at the number of recommended vaccines given in the first

> year of

> life alone. It's inevitable that it will cause damage. The normal

> route of

> defense against disease is bypassed when the vaccines are injected.

>

> It's simply a system overload for these tiny babies. No other toxin is

> given in such magnitudes to developing children.

>

> Does that help at all?

>

> Kay

>

> Re: Re: Baby Dies

>

> > Then how do you account for SIDS before the era of vaccines, or in

> > unvaccinated populations?

> >

> > Why do vaccines " damage the life force " more than other toxins?

> >

>

>

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" At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

the ability. " -Ron White

[Guest guest]

Absolutely. And the inherited weakness and predispositions to certain

diseases and illnesses can determine whether or not a baby succumbs to those

toxins, or develops a disease (maybe asthma or allergies, behavior problems,

etc.), or seems to come through with no major problems.

I'm sure if the stuff in mattresses, or lead or aspartame was injected into

babies at the same quantity that vaccines are, they would prove to be just

as toxic and damaging as vaccines.

My children were minimally breast fed (4 weeks and 2 weeks respectively),

slept in cribs, and were fully vaxed (they were born in 1989 and 1991).

They were quite sick as babies all the way up until we gave up on

conventional medicine. We had a revolving door just for us at the

pediatrician's office and our pharmacy. They were ALWAYS sick with

something and always on medication. They could have easily died of SIDS or

ended up autistic or with ADHD, etc. Their genetic makeup determined the

strength of their life force to withstand the onslaught of toxins they

experienced from day 1.

I feel like I've played Russian Roulette with their lives for the first 10

years. Knowing what I do now and what COULD have been the outcome, I get

chills thinking about what I unknowingly allowed them to be exposed to.

I can't explain why my children so far have escaped anything

life-threatening or some life-long damage when someone else's child was not

so fortunate.

I think our vital forces are what they are due to how we have treated our

bodies as well as what has been handed down to us.

Good questions, Angie. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I sure

enjoy trying to find them! : )

Kay

Re: Re: Baby Dies

>I agree, but I think environmental toxins can seriously harm too,

> including those ever present around developing children (stuff in

> mattresses, for example). Think of lead. Think of the neurotoxins in

> aspartame. -Angie

>

> On Monday, October 30, 2006, at 06:42 PM, Kay wrote:

>

>> SIDS started being noted in the 50s, when vaccines became more popular

>> and

>> widespread. Not to say a baby never died of unexplained reasons before

>> vaccines. People have been damaged with suppressive treatments for

>> generations.

>>

>> Vaccines are toxins given in ever increasing quantities to our babies

>> and

>> children. Those developing bodies and immune systems dont' have a

>> chance

>> when they are bombarded with all those diseases, chemicals, foreign

>> DNA,

>> etc. Look at the number of recommended vaccines given in the first

>> year of

>> life alone. It's inevitable that it will cause damage. The normal

>> route of

>> defense against disease is bypassed when the vaccines are injected.

>>

>> It's simply a system overload for these tiny babies. No other toxin is

>> given in such magnitudes to developing children.

>>

>> Does that help at all?

>>

>> Kay