Re: Re: Neighbor hesitant to come near us with Chicken Pox

[Guest guest]

Ok, as an adult, I would have to contract chicken pox before I could contract

shingles. Chances are I will contract neither, but if I do, I will definately

treat with homeopathy...that's for sure.

Thanks,

Anita

LJL <laura6307@...> wrote:

You will first get chicken pox, which for an adult, can be bad. The

only way to prevent this (according to the hype I am beginning to

read) is to constantly get the chicken pox vaccine (which honestly

have not proven to be effective and as far as I know, not licensed in

adults (yet)).

I would look up how to help your body with homeopathy and heavy doses

of Vitamin C so that if you ever do get chicken pox you will know how

to combat it. After that, you will want to try and expose yourself

to chicken pox all the time to keep your immunity up so your body

won't relapse (shingles).

> As I had mentioned earlier, I think that the neighbor's child who

has chicken pox has been around the past few days. I wanted to try

to expose my toddler girl but the neighbor is hesitant. Our other

neighbor just finished a round of very painful shingles and she said

that she could not knowingly expose my children to something that

could eventually cause them to have shingles. Plus, the lady she

works with has horrible chicken pox scars on her face.

>

> I asked her if she knows of anybody else who has had shingles.

Not that it can't happen - it does - but it would not change my

decision about my children getting full immunity verses a shot full

of chemicals and dead baby cells.

>

> Sigh. We'll see if she's already been exposed enough.

>

> We're all kind of sicky sick here today anyway, so it's probably

best not to add insult to injury at the moment.

>

> Sheri B.

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[Guest guest]

I'm sure I have been exposed to chicken pox in my younger days and by vaccinated

children via shedding more currently; I just never contracted it. I may very

well be exposed again someday to a full blown case of it and still not contract

it.

My unvaccinated son was recently exposed to a woman infected with chicken pox

who works in the occupational therapy room at his school, and he was unaffected.

Sometimes I think we are all prone to getting different things or being

suceptible to them by our individual natural make-up or constitution, not

necessarily by our health condition at the time of exposure. Even though these

types of illnesses are very good for the immune system, I don't think they are

always necessary as there are plenty of other opportunities to strengthen the

immune system and *clean house* as the practitioners of *Natural Hygiene* would

say.

I believe my body can continue to be strong and go through a healthy life

without ever getting the chicken pox whether or not I have been exposed or

re-exposed to it. Again, just speculating. ;~)

Anita

LJL <laura6307@...> wrote:

It's reexposure to chicken pox that keeps your body strong and the

virus in check in your body. Shingles used to be a problem for very

old and/or immunosuppressed people.

By not getting exposed, your body loses immunity and now young and

pretty healthy adults are getting shingles.

http://www.mercola.com/2002/may/29/chickenpox_vaccine.htm

>

> I thought if you get CP as a child you are less likely to get a bad

case of

> shingles as an adult, if at all?

> C

[Guest guest]

Exactly . My 13 year old son had shingles last summer. We treated

homeopathically, and he did very well. He had chicken pox when he was 2.

And of course now that there is an explosion of shingles in young people and old

alike, they're working on a shingles vaccine!!

Kay

Re: Neighbor hesitant to come near us with Chicken Pox

It's reexposure to chicken pox that keeps your body strong and the

virus in check in your body. Shingles used to be a problem for very

old and/or immunosuppressed people.

By not getting exposed, your body loses immunity and now young and

pretty healthy adults are getting shingles.

http://www.mercola.com/2002/may/29/chickenpox_vaccine.htm

>

> I thought if you get CP as a child you are less likely to get a bad

case of

> shingles as an adult, if at all?

> C

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

Do you think the shingles explosion in children has anything to do with

chicken pox vaccines, in that a child who receives the cp vax who already had a

case of it unknowingly is now prone to getting the shingles which today I

learned is the next step? Sorry for the run on sentence.

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Exactly . My 13 year old son had shingles last summer. We treated

homeopathically, and he did very well. He had chicken pox when he was 2.

And of course now that there is an explosion of shingles in young people and old

alike, they're working on a shingles vaccine!!

Kay

Re: Neighbor hesitant to come near us with Chicken Pox

It's reexposure to chicken pox that keeps your body strong and the

virus in check in your body. Shingles used to be a problem for very

old and/or immunosuppressed people.

By not getting exposed, your body loses immunity and now young and

pretty healthy adults are getting shingles.

http://www.mercola.com/2002/may/29/chickenpox_vaccine.htm

>

> I thought if you get CP as a child you are less likely to get a bad

case of

> shingles as an adult, if at all?

> C

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info kay. :~)

Anita

KPhilpot <KPhilpot@...> wrote:

Yes, Anita, I do. I've read some articles on that as well. Here are a

couple: http://www.whale.to/a/chick.html http://www.whale.to/a/ata.html

Apparently periodic exposure to children with chicken pox acts as a natural

booster against the disease. But now that wild chicken pox is becoming more and

more rare, that exposure is declining, too, leaving adults AND children more

susceptible to shingles.

Kay

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jackie,

i think anita was referring to shingles having been

extremely rare in children pre varicella vax.

:-)

claudia

--- jnoelsagacious <jnoelsagacious@...>

wrote:

> factor in.The chicken pox vaccine has made this

> previously rare

> disease among children more common which will

> inevitably change

> everything.

> ___________________

>

> Anita,

>

> Chicken pox in children has never been a rare

> disease prior to the

> vaccine. I think you're mixing your thoughts.

>

> Jackie Noel

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[Guest guest]

I was talking about the *shingles*. Is that not true?

Anita

jnoelsagacious <jnoelsagacious@...> wrote:

factor in.The chicken pox vaccine has made this previously rare

disease among children more common which will inevitably change

everything.

___________________

Anita,

Chicken pox in children has never been a rare disease prior to the

vaccine. I think you're mixing your thoughts.

Jackie Noel

www.sagaciousairedales.com

www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

[Guest guest]

Thank you dear. :~)

Anita

<claudiaayaz@...> wrote:

jackie,

i think anita was referring to shingles having been

extremely rare in children pre varicella vax.

:-)

claudia

--- jnoelsagacious <jnoelsagacious@...>

wrote:

> factor in.The chicken pox vaccine has made this

> previously rare

> disease among children more common which will

> inevitably change

> everything.

> ___________________

>

> Anita,

>

> Chicken pox in children has never been a rare

> disease prior to the

> vaccine. I think you're mixing your thoughts.

>

> Jackie Noel

> www.sagaciousairedales.com

> www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

From what I have read, the rates of shingles have gone up since the creation of

the varicella vaccine because people aren't being repeatedly exposed to chicken

pox like they used to.

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

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From: Anita Durney <mydurney@...>

I was talking about the *shingles*. Is that not true?

Anita

jnoelsagacious <jnoelsagacious@...> wrote:

factor in.The chicken pox vaccine has made this previously rare

disease among children more common which will inevitably change

everything.

___________________

Anita,

Chicken pox in children has never been a rare disease prior to the

vaccine. I think you're mixing your thoughts.

Jackie Noel

www.sagaciousairedales.com

www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

[Guest guest]

Isn't almost every child under sun being exposed to chicken pox through the

vaccine and then again through the air by the unavoidable consistent shedding of

vaccinated children? If you look at it from that angle, children are being

exposed more than ever, just not to the natural wild strain. I don't know, maybe

I'm just not getting it...but not for lack of trying. ;~)

Either way, it's a bad news situation because of the cp vaccine that is bound

to cause more problems than they bargained for or think they have solved.

The good news for them will be the need to add a shingles vaccine to the

already overloaded, unnecessary vaccine schedule...and on and on we go.

Anita

SaraShaughnessy@... wrote:

From what I have read, the rates of shingles have gone up since the creation

of the varicella vaccine because people aren't being repeatedly exposed to

chicken pox like they used to.

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

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From: Anita Durney <mydurney@...>

I was talking about the *shingles*. Is that not true?

Anita

jnoelsagacious <jnoelsagacious@...> wrote:

factor in.The chicken pox vaccine has made this previously rare

disease among children more common which will inevitably change

everything.

___________________

Anita,

Chicken pox in children has never been a rare disease prior to the

vaccine. I think you're mixing your thoughts.

Jackie Noel

www.sagaciousairedales.com

www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

[Guest guest]

Now, I could be wrong (it has happened once or twice but when a virus is shed

from someone from a vaccine, isn't it only spread through direct contact? As in

touching something that a vaccinated child touched after they may have come into

contact with their feces? I would think that the only way that it would be

spread through the air would be if the vaccinated child actually came down with

a case of chicken pox.

So many variables! Why couldn't the darn vaccine manufacturers just leave at

least chicken pox alone??!!??

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Anita Durney <mydurney@...>

Isn't almost every child under sun being exposed to chicken pox through the

vaccine and then again through the air by the unavoidable consistent shedding of

vaccinated children? If you look at it from that angle, children are being

exposed more than ever, just not to the natural wild strain. I don't know, maybe

I'm just not getting it...but not for lack of trying. ;~)

Either way, it's a bad news situation because of the cp vaccine that is bound

to cause more problems than they bargained for or think they have solved.

The good news for them will be the need to add a shingles vaccine to the

already overloaded, unnecessary vaccine schedule...and on and on we go.

Anita

SaraShaughnessy@... wrote:

From what I have read, the rates of shingles have gone up since the creation

of the varicella vaccine because people aren't being repeatedly exposed to

chicken pox like they used to.

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Anita Durney <mydurney@...>

I was talking about the *shingles*. Is that not true?

Anita

jnoelsagacious <jnoelsagacious@...> wrote:

factor in.The chicken pox vaccine has made this previously rare

disease among children more common which will inevitably change

everything.

___________________

Anita,

Chicken pox in children has never been a rare disease prior to the

vaccine. I think you're mixing your thoughts.

Jackie Noel

www.sagaciousairedales.com

www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

[Guest guest]

With the exception of handling fecal matter and such, I think the principles of

shedding remain largely unknown.

Anita

SaraShaughnessy@... wrote:

Now, I could be wrong (it has happened once or twice but when a virus is

shed from someone from a vaccine, isn't it only spread through direct contact?

As in touching something that a vaccinated child touched after they may have

come into contact with their feces? I would think that the only way that it

would be spread through the air would be if the vaccinated child actually came

down with a case of chicken pox.

So many variables! Why couldn't the darn vaccine manufacturers just leave at

least chicken pox alone??!!??

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

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