Re: From another group debating vaccines

[Guest guest]

Oh my Goodness Sheri! What did you say to this person? Doesn't just

make you want to scream! I have such trouble controlling myself when

I come accross situations like this. I was actually thrown off of a

Mommies group for what I said... (but hey it was a group of dummies

anyway... and... three Moms emailed me privately asking for more info

so... it was worth it!)

It came up on a homeschool chat once and I can only hold my fingers

for so long before I unleashed. Turns out there were many like minded

folks there so... that went smooth! LOL

I'm just curious, did you respond to this person? I don't know what I

would say! LOL :-)

Laurette

>

> This is taken from another group in which there is much discussion

about vaccines at the moment. I have taken the liberty of sharing

this post since I am not identifying the person who posted it. I did

inform her that the flu shots still contain thimerisol.

> Sheri B.

>

> " I feel confident that the thimerosol in vaccines has led to an

increase in Autism and frankly that is awful. I am glad to hear that

vaccines with no thimerosol are available. I am anxious to see if

that reduces the incidence of Autism. But, I will never be against

vaccinations. My daughter, who is 7 has to deal with the paralysis of

Polio for the rest of her life because she wasn't given the Polio

vaccine that she needed when she was a baby in the orphanage in

Ukraine. She does tremendously well, but her life will always be a

struggle that could have easily been prevented. To see her leg

withered, shorter than the other and both legs with reduced nerve and

muscular function assures me that the Polio vaccine is very much

needed. Look at the children that haven't been vaccinated in Africa

due to the mullahs telling the mothers that the Americans and others

are trying to sterilize their children. Now, these children will

suffer, many with families so poor that they cannot get

> the braces, shoes, crutches, wheelchairs and therapy that they

need. They will never have the job opportunities or life

opportunities that Alena will have by being here. Yes, I am all for

freedom from gov't intrusion and I don't like the idea of the gov't

making it mandatory that we do things. But, we have to remember that

the choices we make don't just impact us, but could impact the very

life and quality of life for our children. I am finally pregnant

after 12 years and this child will be vaccinated. "

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Is this mother in the U.S.? I don't understand how the conditions

and concerns in the Ukraine or Africa warrant vaccinating a child in

the U.S.? Did I miss something?

Thanks for having this group,

Josie

>

> This is taken from another group in which there is much discussion

about vaccines at the moment. I have taken the liberty of sharing

this post since I am not identifying the person who posted it. I

did inform her that the flu shots still contain thimerisol.

> Sheri B.

>

> " I feel confident that the thimerosol in vaccines has led to an

increase in Autism and frankly that is awful. I am glad to hear

that vaccines with no thimerosol are available. I am anxious to see

if that reduces the incidence of Autism. But, I will never be

against vaccinations. My daughter, who is 7 has to deal with the

paralysis of Polio for the rest of her life because she wasn't given

the Polio vaccine that she needed when she was a baby in the

orphanage in Ukraine. She does tremendously well, but her life will

always be a struggle that could have easily been prevented. To see

her leg withered, shorter than the other and both legs with reduced

nerve and muscular function assures me that the Polio vaccine is

very much needed. Look at the children that haven't been vaccinated

in Africa due to the mullahs telling the mothers that the Americans

and others are trying to sterilize their children. Now, these

children will suffer, many with families so poor that they cannot get

> the braces, shoes, crutches, wheelchairs and therapy that they

need. They will never have the job opportunities or life

opportunities that Alena will have by being here. Yes, I am all for

freedom from gov't intrusion and I don't like the idea of the gov't

making it mandatory that we do things. But, we have to remember

that the choices we make don't just impact us, but could impact the

very life and quality of life for our children. I am finally

pregnant after 12 years and this child will be vaccinated. "

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

>

>

[Guest guest]

She's in the US, but her child is from the Ukraine (adopted). But does it

really matter? It should not really matter if we believe what we believe, right?

Sheri B.

josiecat1022 <mjd_subs2@...> wrote:

Is this mother in the U.S.? I don't understand how the conditions

and concerns in the Ukraine or Africa warrant vaccinating a child in

the U.S.? Did I miss something?

Thanks for having this group,

Josie

>

> This is taken from another group in which there is much discussion

about vaccines at the moment. I have taken the liberty of sharing

this post since I am not identifying the person who posted it. I

did inform her that the flu shots still contain thimerisol.

> Sheri B.

>

> " I feel confident that the thimerosol in vaccines has led to an

increase in Autism and frankly that is awful. I am glad to hear

that vaccines with no thimerosol are available. I am anxious to see

if that reduces the incidence of Autism. But, I will never be

against vaccinations. My daughter, who is 7 has to deal with the

paralysis of Polio for the rest of her life because she wasn't given

the Polio vaccine that she needed when she was a baby in the

orphanage in Ukraine. She does tremendously well, but her life will

always be a struggle that could have easily been prevented. To see

her leg withered, shorter than the other and both legs with reduced

nerve and muscular function assures me that the Polio vaccine is

very much needed. Look at the children that haven't been vaccinated

in Africa due to the mullahs telling the mothers that the Americans

and others are trying to sterilize their children. Now, these

children will suffer, many with families so poor that they cannot get

> the braces, shoes, crutches, wheelchairs and therapy that they

need. They will never have the job opportunities or life

opportunities that Alena will have by being here. Yes, I am all for

freedom from gov't intrusion and I don't like the idea of the gov't

making it mandatory that we do things. But, we have to remember

that the choices we make don't just impact us, but could impact the

very life and quality of life for our children. I am finally

pregnant after 12 years and this child will be vaccinated. "

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, it's hard to say something when her daughter has a withered leg from

polio, but I did say that nothing could take the chemicals out of my nephew's

brain that contributed to his autism. I've really encouraged her to at least

look at the Hep. B. vaccine for when her baby is born. Maybe she can see the

absurdity of that one and then start from there. She said she'd look into it

but that the polio vaccine was a done deal.

She also didn't realize - like SO MANY PEOPLE, that the flu shots still have

mercury! Someone needs to take an ad out in the NY TImes or something about

this!

Sheri B.

Laurette <Laurette@...> wrote:

Oh my Goodness Sheri! What did you say to this person? Doesn't just

make you want to scream! I have such trouble controlling myself when

I come accross situations like this. I was actually thrown off of a

Mommies group for what I said... (but hey it was a group of dummies

anyway... and... three Moms emailed me privately asking for more info

so... it was worth it!)

It came up on a homeschool chat once and I can only hold my fingers

for so long before I unleashed. Turns out there were many like minded

folks there so... that went smooth! LOL

I'm just curious, did you respond to this person? I don't know what I

would say! LOL :-)

Laurette

>

> This is taken from another group in which there is much discussion

about vaccines at the moment. I have taken the liberty of sharing

this post since I am not identifying the person who posted it. I did

inform her that the flu shots still contain thimerisol.

> Sheri B.

>

> " I feel confident that the thimerosol in vaccines has led to an

increase in Autism and frankly that is awful. I am glad to hear that

vaccines with no thimerosol are available. I am anxious to see if

that reduces the incidence of Autism. But, I will never be against

vaccinations. My daughter, who is 7 has to deal with the paralysis of

Polio for the rest of her life because she wasn't given the Polio

vaccine that she needed when she was a baby in the orphanage in

Ukraine. She does tremendously well, but her life will always be a

struggle that could have easily been prevented. To see her leg

withered, shorter than the other and both legs with reduced nerve and

muscular function assures me that the Polio vaccine is very much

needed. Look at the children that haven't been vaccinated in Africa

due to the mullahs telling the mothers that the Americans and others

are trying to sterilize their children. Now, these children will

suffer, many with families so poor that they cannot get

> the braces, shoes, crutches, wheelchairs and therapy that they

need. They will never have the job opportunities or life

opportunities that Alena will have by being here. Yes, I am all for

freedom from gov't intrusion and I don't like the idea of the gov't

making it mandatory that we do things. But, we have to remember that

the choices we make don't just impact us, but could impact the very

life and quality of life for our children. I am finally pregnant

after 12 years and this child will be vaccinated. "

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmm, It is hard, but then it's not so hard to say anything once

you've done it! As much as it sucks, I think many people would rather

know about the situation than not know regardless. I have done this a

few times IRL in regards to vaccination, once with S.I.D.S. where I

was put on the spot and once with Polio - the subject came up and I

wasn't going to lie or stay quiet. It was hard, but the results in

the long run were positive. I tell it like it is quite frequently in

regards to Breast Implants. I am an exotic dancer and one of the few

people within the industry who knows these things are dangerous. I

probably see more people with implants than most people and I figured

that someone should be speaking out about them! It may not be nice

for people to hear, especially when they already have implants but

beleiving misleading information isn't nice either.

~ Jowanna.

> >

> > This is taken from another group in which there is much discussion

> about vaccines at the moment. I have taken the liberty of sharing

> this post since I am not identifying the person who posted it. I

did

> inform her that the flu shots still contain thimerisol.

> > Sheri B.

> >

> > " I feel confident that the thimerosol in vaccines has led to an

> increase in Autism and frankly that is awful. I am glad to hear

that

> vaccines with no thimerosol are available. I am anxious to see if

> that reduces the incidence of Autism. But, I will never be against

> vaccinations. My daughter, who is 7 has to deal with the paralysis

of

> Polio for the rest of her life because she wasn't given the Polio

> vaccine that she needed when she was a baby in the orphanage in

> Ukraine. She does tremendously well, but her life will always be a

> struggle that could have easily been prevented. To see her leg

> withered, shorter than the other and both legs with reduced nerve

and

> muscular function assures me that the Polio vaccine is very much

> needed. Look at the children that haven't been vaccinated in Africa

> due to the mullahs telling the mothers that the Americans and others

> are trying to sterilize their children. Now, these children will

> suffer, many with families so poor that they cannot get

> > the braces, shoes, crutches, wheelchairs and therapy that they

> need. They will never have the job opportunities or life

> opportunities that Alena will have by being here. Yes, I am all for

> freedom from gov't intrusion and I don't like the idea of the gov't

> making it mandatory that we do things. But, we have to remember

that

> the choices we make don't just impact us, but could impact the very

> life and quality of life for our children. I am finally pregnant

> after 12 years and this child will be vaccinated. "

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, it's hard to say something when her daughter has a withered

leg from polio, but I did say that nothing could take the chemicals

out of my nephew's brain that contributed to his autism.

I guess it's hard to talk to someone whose child is so sick, you are

right.

You know, I once read an article in Mothering magazine (and I think

I've heard of it elsewhere also) where a mother put her son on a

certain type of diet, (organic.. .but there was more too it) like a

detox and his autism improved greatly. Have you ever heard of this?

It was in one of last years issues....

[Guest guest]

Yes. My sister is doing this and is seeing great progress!

Sheri B.

Laurette <Laurette@...> wrote:

>

> Well, it's hard to say something when her daughter has a withered

leg from polio, but I did say that nothing could take the chemicals

out of my nephew's brain that contributed to his autism.

I guess it's hard to talk to someone whose child is so sick, you are

right.

You know, I once read an article in Mothering magazine (and I think

I've heard of it elsewhere also) where a mother put her son on a

certain type of diet, (organic.. .but there was more too it) like a

detox and his autism improved greatly. Have you ever heard of this?

It was in one of last years issues....

[Guest guest]

True, very true. I asked because it seems like a huge jump to

justify vaccinating against something here because of a situation

somewhere else. Yet, her reaction is exactly what the vaccine-makers

are counting on.

> Is this mother in the U.S.? I don't understand how the conditions

> and concerns in the Ukraine or Africa warrant vaccinating a child

in

> the U.S.? Did I miss something?

>

> Thanks for having this group,

> Josie

[Guest guest]

I'm a bit late on this one, but wanted to add my $.02. While having a daughter

who may not be able to walk very well would be heartbreaking. If I had to

chose, I would chose that over having a brain injured child anyday.

I think she hit the nail on the head about the families in countries such as

Africa and the Ukraine being very poor. Money would be much better spent

improving those poor people's living conditions as opposed to injecting their

sick and malnourished children with toxins!

And has she not heard of the documented risk of cancer from the Salk vaccine

that most of us received in our childhoods? There's ALWAYS a catch to messing

with natural immunity. And why would this woman be so adamant about her new

baby getting the Polio vax. She lives in the US, right? I hope she does some

research before her new baby arrives. Something tells me she will continue to

stick her head into the sand on the vaccine topic.

You've done your part by presenting the other side of the issue to her. " You

can lead a person to knowledge, but you cannot make him think. "

Kay

From another group debating vaccines

This is taken from another group in which there is much discussion about

vaccines at the moment. I have taken the liberty of sharing this post since I

am not identifying the person who posted it. I did inform her that the flu

shots still contain thimerisol.

Sheri B.

" I feel confident that the thimerosol in vaccines has led to an increase in

Autism and frankly that is awful. I am glad to hear that vaccines with no

thimerosol are available. I am anxious to see if that reduces the incidence of

Autism. But, I will never be against vaccinations. My daughter, who is 7 has

to deal with the paralysis of Polio for the rest of her life because she wasn't

given the Polio vaccine that she needed when she was a baby in the orphanage in

Ukraine. She does tremendously well, but her life will always be a struggle

that could have easily been prevented. To see her leg withered, shorter than

the other and both legs with reduced nerve and muscular function assures me that

the Polio vaccine is very much needed. Look at the children that haven't been

vaccinated in Africa due to the mullahs telling the mothers that the Americans

and others are trying to sterilize their children. Now, these children will

suffer, many with families so poor that they cannot get

the braces, shoes, crutches, wheelchairs and therapy that they need. They

will never have the job opportunities or life opportunities that Alena will have

by being here. Yes, I am all for freedom from gov't intrusion and I don't like

the idea of the gov't making it mandatory that we do things. But, we have to

remember that the choices we make don't just impact us, but could impact the

very life and quality of life for our children. I am finally pregnant after 12

years and this child will be vaccinated. "