Re: Re: Severe Intestinal Gas! Help On Yasko Ammonia Protocall. Rich/Sue T

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

Please make sure you rinse the beans or even soak them overnight before

cooking them . . . it makes a huge difference, too. How many beans are you

eating?

Best Wishes,

Sue T

tansyap <tansyap@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rich/Sue/All

>

> I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse at

> night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

>

> I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does produce

> more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I am

> having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot function

its

> so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

>

> Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

bit???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

Hi Janet

Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help when

eating beans etc.

TC, Tansy

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I am not cooking them. I am using them on top of a salad. Kidney beans, white

beans, salad beans. I was trying to replace my protien! I don't think its the

beans, I was eating them before I started the ammonia RNA. I started the RNA two

days ago and that is when the problem started. Bad enogh that today I am not

taking the RNA. Should I lower the dose?? I was only taking one dropper, 1/3, 3

times a day.

Its bad enough that I can't eat much ! The gas won't move, up or down! Its

stuck in there!

Thank you for helping me.

Wishing you always the best,

Janet

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

Please make sure you rinse the beans or even soak them overnight before cooking

them . . . it makes a huge difference, too. How many beans are you eating?

Best Wishes,

Sue T

tansyap <tansyap@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rich/Sue/All

>

> I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse at

> night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

>

> I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does produce

> more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I am

> having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot function

its

> so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

>

> Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

bit???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

Hi Janet

Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help when

eating beans etc.

TC, Tansy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

I would start ALL the RNA's with only one or two drops once a day and work up

slowly from that very low starting dose. This is also true for the supplements

and herbs, too. . . . tiny sprinkles, crushing tablets, etc.

Please also keep in mind to only try to use a fist size amount of protien a

day till you get the ammonina issue amd glutamate/gaba balance worked out.

Sue T

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

Sue,

I am not cooking them. I am using them on top of a salad. Kidney beans, white

beans, salad beans. I was trying to replace my protien! I don't think its the

beans, I was eating them before I started the ammonia RNA. I started the RNA two

days ago and that is when the problem started. Bad enogh that today I am not

taking the RNA. Should I lower the dose?? I was only taking one dropper, 1/3, 3

times a day.

Its bad enough that I can't eat much ! The gas won't move, up or down! Its stuck

in there!

Thank you for helping me.

Wishing you always the best,

Janet

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

Please make sure you rinse the beans or even soak them overnight before cooking

them . . . it makes a huge difference, too. How many beans are you eating?

Best Wishes,

Sue T

tansyap <tansyap@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rich/Sue/All

>

> I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse at

> night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

>

> I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does produce

> more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I am

> having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot function

its

> so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

>

> Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

bit???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

Hi Janet

Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help when

eating beans etc.

TC, Tansy

>

[Guest guest]

HI Jill,

Yes, I do have CBS upregulation. CBS A360A +/+ . I had some done some reading

their about the detox and it does produce some gas. Some is ok, incapcitating is

another. I am heading down for the Alka Setlzer and as Sue suggested, lowering

my drops and I will look for the post Rich mentioned.

Thank you all so much for your help!

Janet

jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote:

I am watching her DVD on the SNPs....I am in the midst of a brain

embargo (my brain cannot be imported any longer due to a blockade of

information at very valuable ports of call....ha...) She says that as

you reduce the ammonia, IF you have a CBS upregulation (do you?) you

can get alanine and carnosine elevated, and a detox effect.

I have no idea if that produces gas.

Gas is usually the byproduct of fermentation of sugars by bacteria...

I cannot keep all her info in my head. Thank goodness I don't have to.

It's not a matter of understanding mechanism (for instance, I still

need to view Deth's DVD again and his papers, as he is discovering

something basic about mechanism), its simply information overload. IF

her information is correct then she is doing in essence, good bench

science. She admits that some of her hunches have been/will be wrong.

One mutation is gentler than she initially suspected.

> >

> > Hi Rich/Sue/All

> >

> > I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse at

> > night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> > protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

> >

> > I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does produce

> > more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I am

> > having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot function

> its

> > so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

> >

> > Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

> bit???

> >

> > Thank you all for your help,

> >

> > Janet

>

> Hi Janet

>

> Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help when

> eating beans etc.

>

> TC, Tansy

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rich,

This has been an on going problem with me, so thank you so much for your

help!!! I have looked at every post in the Adults/Parent forum of Autism

Answer. I know my tummy hurts like heck, but my eyes are still good! I also

tried to search for Adults AND intestinal gas, got nothing on that and I also

tried Indian food. 736 posts came up for that!!. Can you help me locate that

post you were referring to???

Thank you so much for your help,

Janet

rvankonynen <richvank@...> wrote:

Hi, Janet.

I'm really sorry to hear about the gas. I certainly know what

that's like!

In the recent post to the woman about the Indian food in the parents

and adults section of the autismanswer group, Dr. Yasko gives some

comments about gas production. One thing she says there is that if

the pH of the gut is too low (too acid) it favors the growth of

yeasts. Yeasts do generate gas. The suggestion about sodium

bicarbonate that mjh gave you would fit right in with this. Sodium

bicarbonate will raise the pH. That might give you some relief. In

the longer term, the things that Dr. Yasko lists in that message for

her gut treatment may be helpful. I hope you get some relief. I've

been there on the bloated gut, and it isn't fun!

Rich

> >

> > Hi Rich/Sue/All

> >

> > I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse

at

> > night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> > protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

> >

> > I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does

produce

> > more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I

am

> > having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot

function

> its

> > so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

> >

> > Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

> bit???

> >

> > Thank you all for your help,

> >

> > Janet

>

> Hi Janet

>

> Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help

when

> eating beans etc.

>

> TC, Tansy

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

I just want to double check on beans. I was NOT counting them as a protein

because they are not a complete protien. Is that correct?? (God, I hope I am

alright with beans.) I have been able to lower my protien.

Jaent

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

I would start ALL the RNA's with only one or two drops once a day and work up

slowly from that very low starting dose. This is also true for the supplements

and herbs, too. . . . tiny sprinkles, crushing tablets, etc.

Please also keep in mind to only try to use a fist size amount of protien a day

till you get the ammonina issue amd glutamate/gaba balance worked out.

Sue T

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

Sue,

I am not cooking them. I am using them on top of a salad. Kidney beans, white

beans, salad beans. I was trying to replace my protien! I don't think its the

beans, I was eating them before I started the ammonia RNA. I started the RNA two

days ago and that is when the problem started. Bad enogh that today I am not

taking the RNA. Should I lower the dose?? I was only taking one dropper, 1/3, 3

times a day.

Its bad enough that I can't eat much ! The gas won't move, up or down! Its stuck

in there!

Thank you for helping me.

Wishing you always the best,

Janet

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

Please make sure you rinse the beans or even soak them overnight before cooking

them . . . it makes a huge difference, too. How many beans are you eating?

Best Wishes,

Sue T

tansyap <tansyap@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rich/Sue/All

>

> I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse at

> night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

>

> I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does produce

> more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I am

> having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot function

its

> so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

>

> Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

bit???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

Hi Janet

Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help when

eating beans etc.

TC, Tansy

>

[Guest guest]

And you can buy the Gold Alka-Seltzer which doesn't have aspirin in it, if you

prefer. This was used by our food allergy doctor years ago for a reaction to

foods as a way of diffusing the reaction.

in La Selva Beach CA

Re: Severe Intestinal Gas! Help On Yasko Ammonia

Protocall. Rich/Sue T

Janet

Bicarbonate of soda in water. This is also known as baking soda or Alka

Seltzer.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

_http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a bit???

Thank you all for your help,

Janet

[Guest guest]

HI Rich,

I would of never found the post! Thank you for that.Should I be taking

hydrocloride acid?? I have been addressing the yeast with Candex, grapeseed

extract, and oregano but I still have the problem. I used the Alka Setlzer and

it worked!

Thank you for your help,

Janet

rvankonynen <richvank@...> wrote:

Hi, Janet.

Type in the word " gas " in the search box.

Then do the search.

Click on the third message from the top.

Scroll down to Amy's response.

Rich

> > >

> > > Hi Rich/Sue/All

> > >

> > > I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse

> at

> > > night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> > > protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

> > >

> > > I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does

> produce

> > > more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I

> am

> > > having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot

> function

> > its

> > > so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become

worse.

> > >

> > > Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

> > bit???

> > >

> > > Thank you all for your help,

> > >

> > > Janet

> >

> > Hi Janet

> >

> > Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help

> when

> > eating beans etc.

> >

> > TC, Tansy

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

I went to two stores looking for Alka Seltzer which didn't have aspirin in it!

Could not find the Gold! Thank you for that tip!

Janet

Schmidt <schmidtmba@...> wrote:

And you can buy the Gold Alka-Seltzer which doesn't have aspirin in

it, if you prefer. This was used by our food allergy doctor years ago for a

reaction to foods as a way of diffusing the reaction.

in La Selva Beach CA

Re: Severe Intestinal Gas! Help On Yasko Ammonia

Protocall. Rich/Sue T

Janet

Bicarbonate of soda in water. This is also known as baking soda or Alka

Seltzer.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

_http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a bit???

Thank you all for your help,

Janet

[Guest guest]

Well, they ARE a complete protein should you be combining them with grains.

Adrienne

Re: Re: Severe Intestinal Gas! Help On Yasko

Ammonia Protocall. Rich/Sue T

Hi Sue,

I just want to double check on beans. I was NOT counting them as a protein

because they are not a complete protien. Is that correct?? (God, I hope I am

alright with beans.) I have been able to lower my protien.

Jaent

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

I would start ALL the RNA's with only one or two drops once a day and work up

slowly from that very low starting dose. This is also true for the supplements

and herbs, too. . . . tiny sprinkles, crushing tablets, etc.

Please also keep in mind to only try to use a fist size amount of protien a

day till you get the ammonina issue amd glutamate/gaba balance worked out.

Sue T

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

Sue,

I am not cooking them. I am using them on top of a salad. Kidney beans, white

beans, salad beans. I was trying to replace my protien! I don't think its the

beans, I was eating them before I started the ammonia RNA. I started the RNA two

days ago and that is when the problem started. Bad enogh that today I am not

taking the RNA. Should I lower the dose?? I was only taking one dropper, 1/3, 3

times a day.

Its bad enough that I can't eat much ! The gas won't move, up or down! Its

stuck in there!

Thank you for helping me.

Wishing you always the best,

Janet

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

Please make sure you rinse the beans or even soak them overnight before

cooking them . . . it makes a huge difference, too. How many beans are you

eating?

Best Wishes,

Sue T

tansyap <tansyap@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rich/Sue/All

>

> I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse at

> night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

>

> I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does produce

> more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I am

> having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot function

its

> so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

>

> Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

bit???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

Hi Janet

Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help when

eating beans etc.

TC, Tansy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

From what I understand you must include beans as a protein because of the

glutamate, excitotoxin, and ammonia issues.

There are some posts on this on the autism forum.

Sue T

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

Hi Sue,

I just want to double check on beans. I was NOT counting them as a protein

because they are not a complete protien. Is that correct?? (God, I hope I am

alright with beans.) I have been able to lower my protien.

Jaent

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

I would start ALL the RNA's with only one or two drops once a day and work up

slowly from that very low starting dose. This is also true for the supplements

and herbs, too. . . . tiny sprinkles, crushing tablets, etc.

Please also keep in mind to only try to use a fist size amount of protien a day

till you get the ammonina issue amd glutamate/gaba balance worked out.

Sue T

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

Sue,

I am not cooking them. I am using them on top of a salad. Kidney beans, white

beans, salad beans. I was trying to replace my protien! I don't think its the

beans, I was eating them before I started the ammonia RNA. I started the RNA two

days ago and that is when the problem started. Bad enogh that today I am not

taking the RNA. Should I lower the dose?? I was only taking one dropper, 1/3, 3

times a day.

Its bad enough that I can't eat much ! The gas won't move, up or down! Its stuck

in there!

Thank you for helping me.

Wishing you always the best,

Janet

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

Please make sure you rinse the beans or even soak them overnight before cooking

them . . . it makes a huge difference, too. How many beans are you eating?

Best Wishes,

Sue T

tansyap <tansyap@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rich/Sue/All

>

> I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse at

> night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

>

> I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does produce

> more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I am

> having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot function

its

> so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

>

> Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

bit???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

Hi Janet

Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help when

eating beans etc.

TC, Tansy

>

[Guest guest]

Yes . . . I have had great results with the " Gold " especialy with food

allergies. I keep a pack in my purse evrywhere I go.

Sue T

Schmidt <schmidtmba@...> wrote:

And you can buy the Gold Alka-Seltzer which doesn't have aspirin in

it, if you prefer. This was used by our food allergy doctor years ago for a

reaction to foods as a way of diffusing the reaction.

in La Selva Beach CA

Re: Severe Intestinal Gas! Help On Yasko Ammonia

Protocall. Rich/Sue T

Janet

Bicarbonate of soda in water. This is also known as baking soda or Alka

Seltzer.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

_http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a bit???

Thank you all for your help,

Janet

[Guest guest]

If I wanted to feel sick.I would eat beans.

I simply cannot digest them any more.

Re: Re: Severe Intestinal Gas! Help On Yasko

Ammonia Protocall. Rich/Sue T

Sue,

I am not cooking them. I am using them on top of a salad. Kidney beans, white

beans, salad beans. I was trying to replace my protien! I don't think its the

beans, I was eating them before I started the ammonia RNA. I started the RNA two

days ago and that is when the problem started. Bad enogh that today I am not

taking the RNA. Should I lower the dose?? I was only taking one dropper, 1/3, 3

times a day.

Its bad enough that I can't eat much ! The gas won't move, up or down! Its

stuck in there!

Thank you for helping me.

Wishing you always the best,

Janet

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

Please make sure you rinse the beans or even soak them overnight before

cooking them . . . it makes a huge difference, too. How many beans are you

eating?

Best Wishes,

Sue T

tansyap <tansyap@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rich/Sue/All

>

> I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse at

> night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

>

> I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does produce

> more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I am

> having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot function

its

> so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

>

> Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

bit???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

Hi Janet

Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help when

eating beans etc.

TC, Tansy

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sue for giving me the heads up. I will search for the posts as well.

Wishing you the very best,

Janet

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

From what I understand you must include beans as a protein because of the

glutamate, excitotoxin, and ammonia issues.

There are some posts on this on the autism forum.

Sue T

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

Hi Sue,

I just want to double check on beans. I was NOT counting them as a protein

because they are not a complete protien. Is that correct?? (God, I hope I am

alright with beans.) I have been able to lower my protien.

Jaent

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

I would start ALL the RNA's with only one or two drops once a day and work up

slowly from that very low starting dose. This is also true for the supplements

and herbs, too. . . . tiny sprinkles, crushing tablets, etc.

Please also keep in mind to only try to use a fist size amount of protien a day

till you get the ammonina issue amd glutamate/gaba balance worked out.

Sue T

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

Sue,

I am not cooking them. I am using them on top of a salad. Kidney beans, white

beans, salad beans. I was trying to replace my protien! I don't think its the

beans, I was eating them before I started the ammonia RNA. I started the RNA two

days ago and that is when the problem started. Bad enogh that today I am not

taking the RNA. Should I lower the dose?? I was only taking one dropper, 1/3, 3

times a day.

Its bad enough that I can't eat much ! The gas won't move, up or down! Its stuck

in there!

Thank you for helping me.

Wishing you always the best,

Janet

Sue T <morabshadow@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

Please make sure you rinse the beans or even soak them overnight before cooking

them . . . it makes a huge difference, too. How many beans are you eating?

Best Wishes,

Sue T

tansyap <tansyap@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rich/Sue/All

>

> I am getting SEVERE, INCAPACITATING GAS which is usually worse at

> night. I have been on Autism Answer today, searching the gut

> protocall, etc to try and find an answer.

>

> I notice that the ammonia protocall (which I am doing, does produce

> more gas.) With my veggie's, beans and the ammonia protocall I am

> having gas so bad I had to lay down! In effect, I cannot function

its

> so bad. I have always had this problem it has just become worse.

>

> Can someone point me in the right direction to ease this off a

bit???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

Hi Janet

Digestive enzymes might help; especially those designed to help when

eating beans etc.

TC, Tansy

>

[Guest guest]

HI Rich,

It took me Alka Seltzer and other " gas prodicts " yesterday to get over it. And

my gut is still sore this morning. The Alka Seltzer didn't do all the job, but I

think it helped. I will ask about the hydrocloride acid at autism answer.

I think the RNA might also be causing me some die off.

I will try again today to put that back in my schedule. I didn't take it at

all yesterday.

I find the gut protocoll pretty confusing for myself. (I find all of the

program, mind bending) however I am willing to put the time in and I am grateful

for those who are ahead of me and can explain it!!

Janet

rvankonynen <richvank@...> wrote:

Hi, Janet.

I'm glad you got relief from Alka Seltzer. I guess that old " plop,

plop, fizz, fizz " really does have something to it!

I'm not sure what to tell you about the hydrochloric acid. Normally,

I would say that if you have run the baking soda burp test and have

found that your stomach is low in acid, then taking something like

betaine HCl or dilute hydrochloric acid (I emphasize DILUTE. Don't

fry your throat and esophagus with strong hydrochloric acid! B.

has had favorable experience with taking dilute HCl, and maybe she

will comment on it.)

But the various things you are taking need to be coordinated with each

other so they are not working at cross purposes, and I'm not sure how

taking HCl will fit with what else you're currently taking. I hope

you will get an answer from Amy Yasko about this. Sorry I can't be of

more help. I need to learn more about the gut treatment program.

Rich

Should I be taking hydrocloride acid?? I have been addressing the

yeast with Candex, grapeseed extract, and oregano but I still have

the problem. I used the Alka Seltzer and it worked!

>

> Thank you for your help,

>

> Janet