Re: What are the signs of glutathione intolerance?

July 25, 2006

bHello ,

Here are some things to consider for you. Can you google Paradex

and see if you might order it or at least look at the contents of

the product. For the short term this may work for you. In the long

run, go to Autism Answer and then go to the BASICS FORUM and look

for the " updated Gut protocol " that should keep the buggers at bay

once you've hit the Blastocystis with the Paradex or the likes of

that, the gut protocol may assit you in soring out the health and ph

of the gut. You can also use Colon Cleanse if you tend not to have

diarreh. This may be a short term answer to the Bug you are dealing

with at this time.. All of this information I have taken directly

for Dr. Yasko on www.AutismAnswer.ocm.. Also several

mum's on the site from England have indeed order the testing from

hoistic health for the genetics. I hope this helps. If you go to

Autism Biomed Europe you will be able to contact those parents I

believe.

Best of luck to you,

>

> Hi there

>

> I'm taking approx 1/5 tsp of Liposomal glutathione.(approx 1/5 of

> recommended dose.) I'm going very gentley as in recent months

I've

> become increasingly reactive, with odd symptoms even if I don't

think

> I've done anything unusual. What are the signs of glutathione

> intolerance? (so that I don't end up making myself more ill).

>

> I'm in the UK so can't do Yasko tests.

>

> Also Rich advises sorting gut dysbiosis first. I've got rid of

> Citrobacter ferundii and Yersinia but can't get rid of the

Blastocystis

> h. I've tried oregano oil, coconut oil/water/milk, and Vitaklenze

a

> multi-herbal which includes things like black walnut and

berberis. Any

> suggestions? I'm widely and severly pharma intolerant, so won't

risk

> these.

>

> Thank You,

>

July 26, 2006

I just tried the liposomal glutathione. I was never sensitive to

whey protein nor did I feel that it helped me tremendously. I tried

1 teaspoon (the recommended dosage) at first. Within a couple of

hours I had a sore throat which reminded me of the early years of

CFS. I bumped the dosage back to 1/2 teaspoon and didn't get any

more sore throats.

But over the course of about 10 days my energy plummetted. I felt

like I was back to the years when I couldn't hardly get out of bed.

Also had a lot of stomach problems. I've been off the glutathione

for about two weeks now. I am finally bouncing back to my level of

functioning before taking it.

I've decided to wait a while before I try it again. Not a good

experience.

Lynn

> > I'm taking approx 1/5 tsp of Liposomal glutathione.(approx 1/5

of

> > recommended dose.) I'm going very gentley as in recent months

> I've

> > become increasingly reactive, with odd symptoms even if I don't

> think

> > I've done anything unusual. What are the signs of glutathione

> > intolerance? (so that I don't end up making myself more ill).

> >

July 26, 2006

Ouch! Bummer. Thanks for the warning. I will start very slowly if I try it.

Adrienne

Re: What are the signs of glutathione

intolerance?

I just tried the liposomal glutathione. I was never sensitive to

whey protein nor did I feel that it helped me tremendously. I tried

1 teaspoon (the recommended dosage) at first. Within a couple of

hours I had a sore throat which reminded me of the early years of

CFS. I bumped the dosage back to 1/2 teaspoon and didn't get any

more sore throats.

But over the course of about 10 days my energy plummetted. I felt

like I was back to the years when I couldn't hardly get out of bed.

Also had a lot of stomach problems. I've been off the glutathione

for about two weeks now. I am finally bouncing back to my level of

functioning before taking it.

I've decided to wait a while before I try it again. Not a good

experience.

Lynn

> > I'm taking approx 1/5 tsp of Liposomal glutathione.(approx 1/5

of

> > recommended dose.) I'm going very gentley as in recent months

> I've

> > become increasingly reactive, with odd symptoms even if I don't

> think

> > I've done anything unusual. What are the signs of glutathione

> > intolerance? (so that I don't end up making myself more ill).

> >

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

July 26, 2006

Hi, Lynn.

I think it's possible that you have a CBS (cystathionine beta

synthase) polymorphism (SNP). Quite a few PWCs who have gotten the

Yasko panel have been showing up with one or more of them. If you

have one or more of these SNPs, and particularly also if you have a

minus on the SUOX SNP, you may not be able to tolerate taking

glutathione. You may have to focus on your methylation cycle first.

If it's feasible for you to do so, I suggest that you consider

getting the Yasko panel run. It's expensive, but it might be the

key to figuring out your best treatment approach. It can be found

at http://www.testing4health.com, and is called the Complete Basic

SNP Panel I.

A few PWCs have been able to raise their glutathione by direct

approaches, but many have not been able to, and I suspect that the

reason is a vicious circle that is holding the glutathione level

down, involving the methylation cycle and SNPs in enzymes that

impact it.

I think that PWCs who have CBS SNPs are vulnerable to building up

too much sulfite if they try to build glutathione directly, and I

think that's what produces some of the unpleasant symptoms. If you

don't mind commenting, did your " stomach problems " include foul-

smelling gas, such as would be produced by hydrogen sulfide?

I suspect that the sore throat resulted from your immune system

coming into action because of the elevated glutathione. That was

probably a " good " sign, though I'm sure it didn't feel that way. I

think it means that your immune system would benefit from elevating

glutathione, and that if given the chance it would knock out

infections that are already in your body, but I suspect that you

will not be able to realize these longer-term benefits unless you

deal with methylation cycle issues, which I suspect that you have.

Rich

>

> I just tried the liposomal glutathione. I was never sensitive to

> whey protein nor did I feel that it helped me tremendously. I

tried

> 1 teaspoon (the recommended dosage) at first. Within a couple of

> hours I had a sore throat which reminded me of the early years of

> CFS. I bumped the dosage back to 1/2 teaspoon and didn't get any

> more sore throats.

>

> But over the course of about 10 days my energy plummetted. I felt

> like I was back to the years when I couldn't hardly get out of

bed.

> Also had a lot of stomach problems. I've been off the glutathione

> for about two weeks now. I am finally bouncing back to my level

of

> functioning before taking it.

>

> I've decided to wait a while before I try it again. Not a good

> experience.

>

> Lynn

>

> > > I'm taking approx 1/5 tsp of Liposomal glutathione.(approx 1/5

> of

> > > recommended dose.) I'm going very gentley as in recent months

> > I've

> > > become increasingly reactive, with odd symptoms even if I

don't

> > think

> > > I've done anything unusual. What are the signs of glutathione

> > > intolerance? (so that I don't end up making myself more ill).

> > >

>

July 26, 2006

Could someone tell me the test to find out about these bugs causing dysbiosis?

Thanks, Edy

Hill <Brinybrood@...> wrote: bHello ,