Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I find l-Carnitine tartrate helpful, too. mjh " The Basil Book " _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/) In an article on STAT-1 by Alan Cocchetto in the National Forum publication it mentioned: The STAT-1 depletion is treated with L-Carnitine. It raises IGF-BP3 which then raises STAT-1 levels. This article may be on the NCF website at: www.ncf-net.Thi I use L-Carnitine, and it helps, it is only part of a treatment plan for CFS. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 > > > Hello all, > > DO you have any idea what could help raise or restore our Stat1? Thank you for any help, k > In an article on STAT-1 by Alan Cocchetto in the National Forum publication it mentioned: The STAT-1 depletion is treated with L-Carnitine. It raises IGF-BP3 which then raises STAT-1 levels. This article may be on the NCF website at: www.ncf-net.org I use L-Carnitine, and it helps, it is only part of a treatment plan for CFS. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Interesting that l-carnitine is made in the body from LYSINE (antiviral), methionine, vit c, b, and niacin, along with iron and manganese (both needed for good red blood cells). When I've used l-carnitine I've felt a definite improvement too. It's just too expensive to take enough of on a regular basis. d. > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > DO you have any idea what could help raise or restore our Stat1? > > Thank you for any help, k > > > > In an article on STAT-1 by Alan Cocchetto in the National Forum > publication it mentioned: > The STAT-1 depletion is treated with L-Carnitine. It raises IGF-BP3 > which then raises STAT-1 levels. > This article may be on the NCF website at: www.ncf-net.org > > I use L-Carnitine, and it helps, it is only part of a treatment plan > for CFS. > > Al > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 K-if you want to try valgancyclovir (VG), you will probably have a hard time talking 98% of the docs that you see into prescribing it for you. The side effects can be nasty. That said, I believe I have read that VG isn't as bad as it sounds in the PDR. Most docs have never used it and they are afraid of it because of the side effects. However, if you read Dr. Lerner's info about it, I think he indicates that the bad side effects of VG are overstated. So my advice would be to get as much info as you can re VG and how to use it safely before you ask a doc to prescribe it. I don't know of any CFS doc who uses VG as a primary treatment. DOes anyone? Mike C > > > Hello all, > > DO you have any idea what could help raise or restore our Stat1? From the > little reading I am able to do it seems that the destruction of stat1 by a > virus..possibly the cryptovirus is one of the main things going on with us > CFIDers. I have heard that by raising or storing the stat1 your immunity becomes > much stronger...what can help this by raising or restoring stat1? Could you > try killing or lowering the virus with valganciclovir and therefore the virus > will not be destroying the stat1? Has anyone tried valganciclovir? > > Or do you know anyone on the list who is starting to give valganciclovir a > try? I know there are many factors causing my cfids but i truly believe a > virus in the main culprit and I truly believe it's what's causing glutathione > depletion, poor immune system in general, and my severe methylation issues. I > really want to try valganciclovir for viral issues but not sure if i > should..have other been starting to try it? Thank you for any help, k > (mailto: ) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Gena l-Lysine needs vitamin C as its cofactor. Make sure your doctor know that you are self treating HHV-6 with l-Lysine+C and Olive leaf extract. Dr McCandless suggests a specific brand of OLE for her patients, by the way, seems like all OLE is not the same. How are you going to tell which therapy is helping you, by the way? mjh " The Basil Book " _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/) _Re: Stat1, Valganciclovir _ (http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJxbzNkcmU2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkxNTc0BG\ dycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTY0NQRtc2dJZAMxMDExODQEc2VjA 2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE1MjQ5MjQyOA--;_ylg=1/SIG=123cd059v/**http://grou ps./group//message/101184) Posted by: " Gena Castanon " _gcastanon68@... _ (mailto:gcastanon68@...?Subject= Re:%20Stat1,%20Valganciclovir) _gcastanon68 _ (gcastanon68) Sun Jul 9, 2006 5:22 pm (PST) K, I go to my cfs specialist this wed. to see about trying an anti-viral for a very high active HHV-6 count. I'll inform the board which one he prescribes and how I react later this week. I'm also trying lysine again and just bought some olive leaf specifically to fight my HHV-6 load-though not the same reason u r thinking of trying vanc. Gena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 K, I go to my cfs specialist this wed. to see about trying an anti-viral for a very high active HHV-6 count. I'll inform the board which one he prescribes and how I react later this week. I'm also trying lysine again and just bought some olive leaf specifically to fight my HHV-6 load-though not the same reason u r thinking of trying vanc. Gena --- yakcamp22 <yakcamp22@...> wrote: > K-if you want to try valgancyclovir (VG), you will > probably have a > hard > time talking 98% of the docs that you see into > prescribing it > for you. The side effects can be nasty. That said, > I believe I have > read that VG isn't as bad as it sounds in the PDR. > Most docs have > never used it and they are afraid of it because of > the side effects. > However, if you read Dr. Lerner's info about it, I > think he indicates > that the bad side effects of VG are overstated. So > my advice would > be to get as much info as you can re VG and how to > use it safely > before you ask a doc to prescribe it. I don't know > of any CFS doc > who uses VG as a primary treatment. DOes anyone? > > Mike C > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > DO you have any idea what could help raise or > restore our Stat1? > From the > > little reading I am able to do it seems that the > destruction of > stat1 by a > > virus..possibly the cryptovirus is one of the main > things going on > with us > > CFIDers. I have heard that by raising or storing > the stat1 your > immunity becomes > > much stronger...what can help this by raising or > restoring stat1? > Could you > > try killing or lowering the virus with > valganciclovir and > therefore the virus > > will not be destroying the stat1? Has anyone > tried valganciclovir? > > > > Or do you know anyone on the list who is starting > to give > valganciclovir a > > try? I know there are many factors causing my > cfids but i truly > believe a > > virus in the main culprit and I truly believe it's > what's causing > glutathione > > depletion, poor immune system in general, and my > severe > methylation issues. I > > really want to try valganciclovir for viral issues > but not sure if > i > > should..have other been starting to try it? Thank > you for any > help, k > > (mailto: ) > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hi Mjh, Didn't know that vit. c was needed as cofactor for lysine. I can't handle taking it as a separate supplement but get some in my multi vitamin and vitamin waters/oj. I had an outbreak of canker sores yesterday and just took 100 mg. of lysine yesterday and today and they are already gone. I haven't started the olive leaf yet. I understand some brands are better than others. I'll make sure to mention the lysine to my doc-ask about olive leaf- I understand the issue of wondering what is working or not working-I think I'll just look at the blood work and how I'm feeling of course- If my doc thinks I should do differently I will-plus, I'm concerned the anti-viral will have bad side effects or I won't react well to it because I I am hypersensitive and allergic to a lot of meds. Thus, I thought a few weeks of lysine before I decide on a complete plan wouldn't hurt-and, has already helped my cold sores. THanks, Gena --- foxhillers@... wrote: > Gena > l-Lysine needs vitamin C as its cofactor. > > Make sure your doctor know that you are self > treating HHV-6 with l-Lysine+C > and Olive leaf extract. > > Dr McCandless suggests a specific brand of OLE for > her patients, by the way, > seems like all OLE is not the same. > > How are you going to tell which therapy is helping > you, by the way? > > mjh > " The Basil Book " > _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ > (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/) > > > _Re: Stat1, Valganciclovir _ > (http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJxbzNkcmU2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkxNTc0BG\ dycHNwSWQDMTYwMDA2MTY0NQRtc2dJZAMxMDExODQEc2VjA > 2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE1MjQ5MjQyOA--;_ylg=1/SIG=123cd059v/**http://grou > ps./group//message/101184) > > Posted by: " Gena Castanon " _gcastanon68@... _ > (mailto:gcastanon68@...?Subject= > Re:%20Stat1,%20Valganciclovir) _gcastanon68 _ > (gcastanon68) > Sun Jul 9, 2006 5:22 pm (PST) > > K, > > I go to my cfs specialist this wed. to see about > trying an anti-viral for a very high active HHV-6 > count. > > I'll inform the board which one he prescribes and > how > I react later this week. > > I'm also trying lysine again and just bought some > olive leaf specifically to fight my HHV-6 > load-though > not the same reason u r thinking of trying vanc. > > Gena > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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