Re: do we have worm parasites? strongyloidiasis? p3? p90?

[Guest guest]

That account totally put me off safe 2 use when i read it. If this thing

doesn & #39;t humble you... you probably didn & #39;t have it. My symptoms sound

identical to yours. I am setting up with my doc tomorrow to work with

Staninger. _ Ian

kixx_rc wrote:

> I've been bogged down w/ work the last week and have missed out on

> all the action here... but here's another one of those late night

> online researches... (you know what I'm talking about)

> Has anyone stumbled across this website?

> http://www.morgellons-clm.com/

> This guy claims that he thought he had rat mites, then finally

> settled on the fact he had worm parasites. He states that morg

> sufferers are really hosts to various types of microscopic worms,

> aka nematodes, aka Cutaneous Larval Migrans (CLM, which is a generic

> term for these types of parasites). Strongyloidiasis seems to be

> the most commonly referred offending parasite.

> Seems like he's been around under a differnt website in the past, as

> indicated by the post below. I know I should be skeptical (and I

> am) but everything he described is right on par with what I'm going

> through. Like him, I have ordered safe2use enzyme cleaner and lice

> shampoo, they haven't really done anything for me and I use it

> everyday. I have been bathing daily for the last month+ but I still

> am getting the crawlies on my face and head. I have these lint

> things. We often agree here that we are dealing with different

> critters... I've concluded long time ago that what I have may not be

> mites but some other unexplained things... 's story is very easy

> to relate to what we're going through.

> So he's charging an exorbant amount of money for his " protocals " .

> The p3 (whatever that is) is $120 and p90 protocol is an

> astronomical, ridiculous, and just plain offensive $1600. Is this

> guy the real deal or is he another predatory snake oil salesman

> taking advantage of ppl's sufferings and desperation? I welcome a

> good healthy discussion about this.

> What's really interesting for me is that while I've maintained that

> I got my critters from this infested used car I bought, a week

> before all this began, I had actually gone to China for about a

> week. During the stay, I got this huge zit on my chest (right

> around the sternum) and I popped it and oozed out some puss (sorry

> to be so gross). I didn't think much of it but this was a pretty

> big looking zit which at the time I thought it was. Then a few days

> after the return, I got this veiny thing under my skin in one area

> of the body.... and then it went away. This so happened to coincide

> with me riding the car alot over labor day weekend w/ friends in

> town, going back and forth between the condo and car without

> showering, sitting all over the couch, bed, etc, which I was always

> careful not to do following driving that car. I still can't

> discount the fact that everytime I rode the car, I got itchy,

> crawly, and felt pin pricks.

> So either the car did it for me... or the China trip... both

> happened right around the same time, which is tragically

> coincidental as I will never know exactly which. Reading 's

> account though, is making me lean toward the China trip. And it's

> not surprising if I did pick up something from China...

>

>> >

>> > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-forever.com?

> These

>> > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong

> claims.

>> > They claim the crawlys are actually some type of microscopic

> worms

>> > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even after

> the

>> > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their analysis

>> > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me.

>> >

>> > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still have

> some

>> > crawlie sensations in face area.

>> >

>> > Th

>> >

>>

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>

[Guest guest]

I don't know this from first hand experience, but he has a reputation

for being a " rip off " . His nickname is " Tampa " . I am always

cautious when I hear criticisms as well as endorsements, as I don't

think either can be totally trusted. For all I know, he may have

come up with something, but all I have heard has been negative.

As always, have to decide for ourselves...groan....

Bessie

> > >

> > > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-forever.com?

> These

> > > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong

> claims.

> > > They claim the crawlys are actually some type of microscopic

> worms

> > > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even after

> the

> > > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their

analysis

> > > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me.

> > >

> > > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still have

> some

> > > crawlie sensations in face area.

> > >

> > > Th

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My mom ordered his protocol long before we found this group, and

before i was infected. It states that it can cure you in three

months. We bought it three months before i was due to deliver

Savannah. He sent her a big box full of products, and a protocol to

follow, a diet, cleanses, cleaning protocol. My mom says that she was

basically cured for a weekend, then was shortly reinfected by

something, and it came back with a vengance. We think it had built up

immunities to what she had been using. If you have any questions i

can ask her.

> > >

> > > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-forever.com?

> These

> > > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong

> claims.

> > > They claim the crawlys are actually some type of microscopic

> worms

> > > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even after

> the

> > > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their

analysis

> > > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me.

> > >

> > > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still have

> some

> > > crawlie sensations in face area.

> > >

> > > Th

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know. It's a pain, isn't it? I love going to the pharmacy and

picking up Acid Reducer and knowing it will reduce acid!

katie

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-

forever.com?

> > These

> > > > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong

> > claims.

> > > > They claim the crawlys are actually some type of microscopic

> > worms

> > > > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even

after

> > the

> > > > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their

> analysis

> > > > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me.

> > > >

> > > > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still

have

> > some

> > > > crawlie sensations in face area.

> > > >

> > > > Th

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Whenever I QUIT lice combing with the enzymes, my critters go NUTS on

my head and then crawl/drop/jump all over me. My head is definitely a

huge hot spot. Even using the Roach Prufe every night didn't

eliminate the need. I had to keep going back to the enzymes. The ESP

shampoo seems somewhat better, but I am still combing, just doing it

with the ESP shampoo instead of the enzymes, but I can feel them, and

I know that until the ESP gets them out, I'm going to have to keep

dealing with the ones on or near the surface with the ECP. Might be

the menagerie that calle me home...I often feel something is working

for one or two critters but the others are bathing in it and

whistling " Night at the Opera " or some such...

katie

> > >

> > > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-forever.com?

> These

> > > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong

> claims.

> > > They claim the crawlys are actually some type of microscopic

> worms

> > > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even after

> the

> > > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their

analysis

> > > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me.

> > >

> > > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still have

> some

> > > crawlie sensations in face area.

> > >

> > > Th

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What and where do you get the enzymes?

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-

forever.com?

> > These

> > > > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong

> > claims.

> > > > They claim the crawlys are actually some type of microscopic

> > worms

> > > > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even

after

> > the

> > > > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their

> analysis

> > > > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me.

> > > >

> > > > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still

have

> > some

> > > > crawlie sensations in face area.

> > > >

> > > > Th

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I get them from Arbico Organics or safe2use.com, whichever is cheaper that day. They go a very long way, but are expensive. I buy by the gallon, which is A LOT, but costs $149. Saved/saves my life, though, so worth it.

It is a protease, which means of course it is like meat tenderizer, it dissolves protein.

It cannot reach the ones under the skin, though. On weeknights I either 1) massage it into my hair and scalp for 10 min or 2) leave it on 30-90 minutes, then lice comb without rinsing. If my hair tangles that way, I add some conditioner, however much I need, then comb.

Every weekend I leave it on for several hours and it burns my skin. Within 3 days my skin crinkles up on my scalp and then flakes off, bringing a lot of ticked off critters with it. I really have to be ready for that, and I usually am, because I know the pattern now, otherwise I get bitten angrily and also infest or reinfest my environment, and of course I don't just want to transfer them from my head to my floor/feet!

katie

From: Holly <hollyjane11@...>Subject: Re: do we have worm parasites? strongyloidiasis? p3? p90?bird mites Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:13 AM

What and where do you get the enzymes?> > > >> > > > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-forever.com? > > These> > > > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong > > claims. > > > > They claim

the crawlys are actually some type of microscopic > > worms> > > > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even after > > the> > > > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their > analysis> > > > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me. > > > > > > > > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still have > > some> > > > crawlie sensations in face area.> > > > > > > > Th> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

With prices like that I would think they could front you some free

samples... ask them? why not... I mean 1600.00 is alot of money

to " invest " . Sounds like BS to me... I would proceed with

caution... especially talking about $1600.00! There are seriously

unconscienable people out there ready to tap into new markets of

sales and only care about capitalizing on your hardship! They will

prey on anyone seeming desparate. I've never heard of these guys

you mentioned. I can tell you about DermaTechRx. I fell into that

scam " Mitactin " spray over the summer of '08 and the products were

rubbish. Never re- ordered.

I got actual relief from using Trish's ESP products and the protocol

Pills and suggestions she has given me and we are getting better (its

slow - but there is definitely a difference from Dec!) I can fall

asleep at night in peace and on most days, I feel " normal " again -

only occasional itches - but no more pin prick bites and no more

crawling!

And to think,... people were complaining about Trish's prices...

We have also been fogging weekly with Cedarcide for 8weeks but have

recently stopped as the environment seems about normal- but Its not

all cured yet - but I'm staying the course with Trish ... I

wholeheartedly feel she is a sincere and tireless advocate and has

created exceptional products that address the skin and topical aspect

of this w/out damaging the skin with poisons.

Any one else going the whole hog with Trish's ESP and protocols?

Interested in your results...? I mean the point of sharing our

info and stories are so that we find the effective measures and

products... right? Wishing everyone a cure, and eventually I have

hope we are getting there... God bless!

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-

> forever.com?

> > > These

> > > > > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong

> > > claims.

> > > > > They claim the crawlys are actually some type of

microscopic

> > > worms

> > > > > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even

> after

> > > the

> > > > > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their

> > analysis

> > > > > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me.

> > > > >

> > > > > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still

> have

> > > some

> > > > > crawlie sensations in face area.

> > > > >

> > > > > Th

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It is interesting how much better the environment gets when the body

is addressed.

Although I did not use Trish's products (this was over a year ago and

hadn't heard about them), I did find alternatives that drew out just

about everthing from my skin (plus the internal supplements). In

time, all I needed to do environmentally was the usual general

cleaning - nothing special. No DE, boric acid, etc. Just orange

oil with water.

And that is now over a year without environmental problems. I still

pay very close attention to my skin and occasionally do a dead sea

salt soak or the like just to be sure nothing is starting up again,

and I continue with supplements (though fewer)FarInfrared, and

Opaline Dry Oxy caps.

I look at like diabetes - get it under control with a lot of effort,

but commit to life long maintenance, testing blood (my bath soaks) to

monitor, and learn to live with it. I really believe we can't ever

get complacent and go back to diet coke and Mc's.

Bessie

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-

> > forever.com?

> > > > These

> > > > > > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong

> > > > claims.

> > > > > > They claim the crawlys are actually some type of

> microscopic

> > > > worms

> > > > > > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even

> > after

> > > > the

> > > > > > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their

> > > analysis

> > > > > > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still

> > have

> > > > some

> > > > > > crawlie sensations in face area.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Th

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This seems to be where i am. I dont have crawling and the biting is

almost gone, but i do get the 'wispies' or itches. I do have lots of

times when i feel 'normal'...but those dang itches. I have the most

activity when at home, so i know i need to hit the environment harder.

Thats why im thinkin DUSTMITE is my next investment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Has anyone checked out this site: www.be-healty-

> > forever.com?

> > > > These

> > > > > > guys are selling herbal treatments which make some strong

> > > > claims.

> > > > > > They claim the crawlys are actually some type of

> microscopic

> > > > worms

> > > > > > carried by the mites which is why we still feel them even

> > after

> > > > the

> > > > > > mites are gone. Has anyone tried their products. Their

> > > analysis

> > > > > > seems quite intuitive and makes sense to me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BTW the epson salt bath has worked very well, but I still

> > have

> > > > some

> > > > > > crawlie sensations in face area.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Th

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

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