Re: Is Ivermectin effective on Bird Mites?

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http://www.nextbio.com/b/literature/literature.nb?id=18481087 & query= & author=F+Abdel-Ghaffar this article shows good success with neem oil.......it can be used in soaps, capsule....etc. Looks promising. Rita

Is Ivermectin effective on Bird Mites?

We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which spends it'slife on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we sufferingfrom a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious ifIvermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration. Are any of you using it to treat bird mites? We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion everyday, butthe things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And thesulfur is really starting to dry us out. Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use betweensulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint, neem,anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with mineral oil.It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy. TriedBurt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

[Guest guest]

>

> We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which spends

it's

> life on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we suffering

> from a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious if

> Ivermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration.

>

> Are any of you using it to treat bird mites?

>

> We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion everyday,

but

> the things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And the

> sulfur is really starting to dry us out.

>

> Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use between

> sulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint, neem,

> anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with mineral

oil.

> It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy.

Tried

> Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.

> Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

I was given 2 doses of Ivermectin, 1 week apart because I thought I

had scabies. I didn't have any trouble with bites for about 2 to 3

weeks and then they started biting full force. I wouldn't recommend

taking it again. I also used sulfur cream on the bites, but it dried

out my skin too much. They only attack my arms, neck and face so I

try to spray a mixture of 3 oz wintergreen rubbing alcohol, .5 oz

tea tree oil, 3 vitamin E capsules, a few disolved menthol crystals

and the rest water to make approx. 6 oz of spray. I shake this well

before spraying on my skin whenever I feel biting or on my feet when

I get out of the shower before putting on shoes. I think it helps it

sure feels good on my skin. To keep them out of my nose and ears I

carry a small jar of Vicks or similar menthol product in my purse

and smear it on my nose and ears when I feel activity. It takes away

the tickling and I think repells them.

hope this helps, L

>

[Guest guest]

Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected

Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite problem.

For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to prefer

my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my eyebrows

and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which is why

I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the spot I

missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to me.

Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why else

they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me.

Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver?

> >

> > We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which spends

> it's

> > life on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we suffering

> > from a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious if

> > Ivermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration.

> >

> > Are any of you using it to treat bird mites?

> >

> > We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion everyday,

> but

> > the things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And the

> > sulfur is really starting to dry us out.

> >

> > Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use between

> > sulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint, neem,

> > anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with mineral

> oil.

> > It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy.

> Tried

> > Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.

> > Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

>

> I was given 2 doses of Ivermectin, 1 week apart because I thought I

> had scabies. I didn't have any trouble with bites for about 2 to 3

> weeks and then they started biting full force. I wouldn't recommend

> taking it again. I also used sulfur cream on the bites, but it dried

> out my skin too much. They only attack my arms, neck and face so I

> try to spray a mixture of 3 oz wintergreen rubbing alcohol, .5 oz

> tea tree oil, 3 vitamin E capsules, a few disolved menthol crystals

> and the rest water to make approx. 6 oz of spray. I shake this well

> before spraying on my skin whenever I feel biting or on my feet when

> I get out of the shower before putting on shoes. I think it helps it

> sure feels good on my skin. To keep them out of my nose and ears I

> carry a small jar of Vicks or similar menthol product in my purse

> and smear it on my nose and ears when I feel activity. It takes away

> the tickling and I think repells them.

> hope this helps, L

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I bought Earth Friendly Concentrated Orange Plus cleaner per Sue's

recommendation. The jury's still out for me but it seems to be

making a difference. I mopped my place with it, floors and walls,

and used a Trijet fogger (that I had when I first ordered cedarcide)

to spray out a diluted solution all over the floor, walls, and

ceiling. I may end up mixing it with Nylar for a longer lasting

effect.

Anyway, as for repellent, I don't use any right now but I do carry

spray bottle around. I have the 32oz Rubbermaid one (from Target)

with red tip and trigger and found this to be a very good sprayer.

Less fatigue on hand and you can control the mist. I fill it w/ tap

water and pour 3 capfuls of Orange Plus. I've been using this to

spray my car and also myself anytime I think I feel something or I

get bit. I don't think it's a repellent but it does take care of

whatever was on me at the time. The best thing I like about it is

that it's non-toxic and very cheap ($5/bottle and it's concentrated

so it goes a long way).

> > >

> > > We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which

spends

> > it's

> > > life on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we

suffering

> > > from a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious

if

> > > Ivermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration.

> > >

> > > Are any of you using it to treat bird mites?

> > >

> > > We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion

everyday,

> > but

> > > the things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And

the

> > > sulfur is really starting to dry us out.

> > >

> > > Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use

between

> > > sulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint,

neem,

> > > anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with

mineral

> > oil.

> > > It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy.

> > Tried

> > > Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice,

though.

> > > Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

> >

> > I was given 2 doses of Ivermectin, 1 week apart because I

thought I

> > had scabies. I didn't have any trouble with bites for about 2 to

3

> > weeks and then they started biting full force. I wouldn't

recommend

> > taking it again. I also used sulfur cream on the bites, but it

dried

> > out my skin too much. They only attack my arms, neck and face so

I

> > try to spray a mixture of 3 oz wintergreen rubbing alcohol, .5

oz

> > tea tree oil, 3 vitamin E capsules, a few disolved menthol

crystals

> > and the rest water to make approx. 6 oz of spray. I shake this

well

> > before spraying on my skin whenever I feel biting or on my feet

when

> > I get out of the shower before putting on shoes. I think it

helps it

> > sure feels good on my skin. To keep them out of my nose and ears

I

> > carry a small jar of Vicks or similar menthol product in my

purse

> > and smear it on my nose and ears when I feel activity. It takes

away

> > the tickling and I think repells them.

> > hope this helps, L

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected

> Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite

problem.

> For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to

prefer

> my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my

eyebrows

> and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which is

why

> I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the spot I

> missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to me.

> Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why else

> they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me.

>

> Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver?

>

> When it came to the Ivermectin, I'm not sure if that was what made

the bites go away or the Prednisone. They may have still been biting

and the itchy rash didn't show up because my body didn't react to

the bites. In my case the whole mitemare came on slowly, my body and

clothes were infected when I came in the house, but I didn't notice

until they multiplied and started biting in mass about a month

later. It wasn't until much later that I noticed the tickling by the

nose and ears. The first dose I took made me really uncoordinated

and slow. I would lose my balance easily and didn't have good muscle

control. The symptoms lasted about 20 hrs. The second dose didn't

even faze me. I didn't have any long term side effects. I've heard

that tobacco is a repellent.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think smoking helps. I am a smoker and my other half is not. They love me and won't touch him.

J.

From: laurel4lea <l.santi@...>Subject: Re: Is Ivermectin effective on Bird Mites?bird mites Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 10:46 AM

>> Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected> Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite problem.> For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to prefer> my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my eyebrows> and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which is why> I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the spot I> missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to me.> Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why else> they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me.> > Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver? > > When it came to the Ivermectin,

I'm not sure if that was what made the bites go away or the Prednisone. They may have still been biting and the itchy rash didn't show up because my body didn't react to the bites. In my case the whole mitemare came on slowly, my body and clothes were infected when I came in the house, but I didn't notice until they multiplied and started biting in mass about a month later. It wasn't until much later that I noticed the tickling by the nose and ears. The first dose I took made me really uncoordinated and slow. I would lose my balance easily and didn't have good muscle control. The symptoms lasted about 20 hrs. The second dose didn't even faze me. I didn't have any long term side effects. I've heard that tobacco is a repellent. > > >> >>

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they don't bother my son, either. and he uses my laptop, drives my car, sits on the couch, does whatever, and never a complaint from him. he sits on the couch and i sit on the floor because i am afraid to sit on the couch. lol.....

From: laurel4lea <l.santimchsi (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Is Ivermectin effective on Bird Mites?bird mitesDate: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 10:46 AM

>> Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected> Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite problem.> For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to prefer> my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my eyebrows> and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which is why> I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the spot I> missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to me.> Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why else> they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me.> > Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver? > > When it came to the

Ivermectin,

I'm not sure if that was what made the bites go away or the Prednisone. They may have still been biting and the itchy rash didn't show up because my body didn't react to the bites. In my case the whole mitemare came on slowly, my body and clothes were infected when I came in the house, but I didn't notice until they multiplied and started biting in mass about a month later. It wasn't until much later that I noticed the tickling by the nose and ears. The first dose I took made me really uncoordinated and slow. I would lose my balance easily and didn't have good muscle control. The symptoms lasted about 20 hrs. The second dose didn't even faze me. I didn't have any long term side effects. I've heard that tobacco is a repellent. > > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi vb,

My favorite non-toxic repellent is Cedarcide's " Best Yet Insect

Spray " . They have a website at cedarcide.com where you can read about

it and buy it. It's expensive, and not everyone has a high opinion of

it. It's been a steady part of my personal arsenal, and I still use

it every day even though I have very little bug activity now. I

mainly use it in my shoes, and sometimes I spray it on my feet and

head before going to bed.

I have not taken ivermectin internally, but I did get good results

using it topically. If you google you may find some info on topical

use of ivermectin (sorry I don't have any links to post). I

understand it is being used to treat difficult scabies cases,

especially in people with AIDS who have scabies.

I used topical ivermectin to get rid of the bugs in my nostrils and

ear canals (they love those dark hairy places), and I also used it on

a couple of buggy patches in my scalp, pubic hair, and the bottom of

one of my feet. I used the horse paste ivermectin that I bought at

the farm supply store, diluted it with water to the consistency of

jergen's lotion, and applied it with a q-tip. It took 2-3

applications to permanently clear up my nose and ears, and maybe 5-6

applications to clear up my foot. It was awhile ago. After I did an

application, I would wait to see if the bugs came back, and if they

did, I would do another application. I did experience side effects of

listlessness and very slow mental functioning, but the side effects

didn't last too long. I am hypersensitive to chemicals.

I would have liked to have used the topical ivermectin on my whole

body, but based on the side effects I experienced using a small amount

on very small patches of skin, I decided not to push my luck. I

recall reading that you can overdose on topical ivermectin, and that

it can cause you to stop breathing, if you overdose.

myrtle

>

> We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which spends it's

> life on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we suffering

> from a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious if

> Ivermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration.

>

> Are any of you using it to treat bird mites?

>

> We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion everyday, but

> the things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And the

> sulfur is really starting to dry us out.

>

> Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use between

> sulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint, neem,

> anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with mineral oil.

> It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy. Tried

> Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.

> Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

>

[Guest guest]

Does anybody know of any feed sores online that you can buy products like topical ivermectin online. I live in the city and there is not a reed store for at least 40 miles from here. thanks tommyFrom: myrtle_maui <myrtle_maui@...>Subject: Re: Is Ivermectin effective on Bird Mites?bird mites Date:

Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 11:07 PM

Hi vb,

My favorite non-toxic repellent is Cedarcide's "Best Yet Insect

Spray". They have a website at cedarcide.com where you can read about

it and buy it. It's expensive, and not everyone has a high opinion of

it. It's been a steady part of my personal arsenal, and I still use

it every day even though I have very little bug activity now. I

mainly use it in my shoes, and sometimes I spray it on my feet and

head before going to bed.

I have not taken ivermectin internally, but I did get good results

using it topically. If you google you may find some info on topical

use of ivermectin (sorry I don't have any links to post). I

understand it is being used to treat difficult scabies cases,

especially in people with AIDS who have scabies.

I used topical ivermectin to get rid of the bugs in my nostrils and

ear canals (they love those dark hairy places), and I also used it on

a couple of buggy patches in my scalp, pubic hair, and the bottom of

one of my feet. I used the horse paste ivermectin that I bought at

the farm supply store, diluted it with water to the consistency of

jergen's lotion, and applied it with a q-tip. It took 2-3

applications to permanently clear up my nose and ears, and maybe 5-6

applications to clear up my foot. It was awhile ago. After I did an

application, I would wait to see if the bugs came back, and if they

did, I would do another application. I did experience side effects of

listlessness and very slow mental functioning, but the side effects

didn't last too long. I am hypersensitive to chemicals.

I would have liked to have used the topical ivermectin on my whole

body, but based on the side effects I experienced using a small amount

on very small patches of skin, I decided not to push my luck. I

recall reading that you can overdose on topical ivermectin, and that

it can cause you to stop breathing, if you overdose.

myrtle

>

> We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which spends it's

> life on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we suffering

> from a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious if

> Ivermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration.

>

> Are any of you using it to treat bird mites?

>

> We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion everyday, but

> the things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And the

> sulfur is really starting to dry us out.

>

> Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use between

> sulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint, neem,

> anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with mineral oil.

> It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy. Tried

> Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.

> Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Mrytle, thanks for sharing this information. I was thinking

Cedarcide was an environmental spray so it's good to know they have a

topical application as well. I have experienced some degree of

efficacy with peppermint oil, but I HATE the smell. Moreover, I hate

it's cooling effect on my skin. I'm feeling cold enough being denied

my warm winter cottons and such. Polyester sucks!

I don't have medical insurance so topical Iver may very well be only

recourse. We've been dosing our kitties with Iver 1% injectible and

administrating it orally with syringes. Makes sense that it could also

work topically.

Were you able to ID a specific mite? If so, how? We're having a heck

of a time trying to catch these things. And how did you bring down

their numbers in your environment?

> >

> > We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which spends it's

> > life on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we suffering

> > from a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious if

> > Ivermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration.

> >

> > Are any of you using it to treat bird mites?

> >

> > We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion everyday, but

> > the things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And the

> > sulfur is really starting to dry us out.

> >

> > Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use between

> > sulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint, neem,

> > anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with mineral oil.

> > It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy. Tried

> > Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.

> > Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

L, your symptoms sound a lot like mine. Did you have the Northern Fowl

Mite?

> >

> > Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected

> > Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite

> problem.

> > For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to

> prefer

> > my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my

> eyebrows

> > and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which is

> why

> > I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the spot I

> > missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to me.

> > Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why else

> > they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me.

> >

> > Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver?

> >

> > When it came to the Ivermectin, I'm not sure if that was what made

> the bites go away or the Prednisone. They may have still been biting

> and the itchy rash didn't show up because my body didn't react to

> the bites. In my case the whole mitemare came on slowly, my body and

> clothes were infected when I came in the house, but I didn't notice

> until they multiplied and started biting in mass about a month

> later. It wasn't until much later that I noticed the tickling by the

> nose and ears. The first dose I took made me really uncoordinated

> and slow. I would lose my balance easily and didn't have good muscle

> control. The symptoms lasted about 20 hrs. The second dose didn't

> even faze me. I didn't have any long term side effects. I've heard

> that tobacco is a repellent.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hmmm...I wonder if it's the female's thinner skin they prefer? I do

notice that women in general are more targeted by these vile things.

> >

> > Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected

> > Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite

> problem.

> > For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to

> prefer

> > my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my

> eyebrows

> > and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which is

> why

> > I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the spot I

> > missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to me.

> > Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why else

> > they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me.

> >

> > Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver?

> >

> > When it came to the Ivermectin, I'm not sure if that was what made

> the bites go away or the Prednisone. They may have still been biting

> and the itchy rash didn't show up because my body didn't react to

> the bites. In my case the whole mitemare came on slowly, my body and

> clothes were infected when I came in the house, but I didn't notice

> until they multiplied and started biting in mass about a month

> later. It wasn't until much later that I noticed the tickling by the

> nose and ears. The first dose I took made me really uncoordinated

> and slow. I would lose my balance easily and didn't have good muscle

> control. The symptoms lasted about 20 hrs. The second dose didn't

> even faze me. I didn't have any long term side effects. I've heard

> that tobacco is a repellent.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tommy. I bought some Ivomec 1% from here:

http://www.kvvet.com/KVVet/search_results.asp?mscssid=0F432308D6E114624A99EEC46E\

902F4E & Gift=false & GiftID=

Took about four or five days to get it. You can use the injectible

topically. Haven't heard any reports of humans utilizing the pour-on

stuff.

>

> >

>

> > We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which spends it's

>

> > life on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we suffering

>

> > from a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious if

>

> > Ivermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration.

>

> >

>

> > Are any of you using it to treat bird mites?

>

> >

>

> > We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion everyday, but

>

> > the things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And the

>

> > sulfur is really starting to dry us out.

>

> >

>

> > Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use between

>

> > sulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint, neem,

>

> > anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with mineral oil.

>

> > It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy. Tried

>

> > Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.

>

> > Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I knew I've been letting my fem side out too much lately.

Testosterone supplements, more football, and joing a team of

something is in my future if it help's me get rid of these...lol. I

think a lot of men have these too. Maybe men have less nerves per sq

inch of skin than a woman does and feel them less. I quess I'm one of

the sensitive types that feel em all the time.

bob

> > >

> > > Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected

> > > Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite

> > problem.

> > > For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to

> > prefer

> > > my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my

> > eyebrows

> > > and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which

is

> > why

> > > I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the

spot I

> > > missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to

me.

> > > Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why

else

> > > they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me.

> > >

> > > Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver?

> > >

> > > When it came to the Ivermectin, I'm not sure if that was what

made

> > the bites go away or the Prednisone. They may have still been

biting

> > and the itchy rash didn't show up because my body didn't react to

> > the bites. In my case the whole mitemare came on slowly, my body

and

> > clothes were infected when I came in the house, but I didn't

notice

> > until they multiplied and started biting in mass about a month

> > later. It wasn't until much later that I noticed the tickling by

the

> > nose and ears. The first dose I took made me really uncoordinated

> > and slow. I would lose my balance easily and didn't have good

muscle

> > control. The symptoms lasted about 20 hrs. The second dose didn't

> > even faze me. I didn't have any long term side effects. I've

heard

> > that tobacco is a repellent.

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LOL!!!Anyway... Tisn't true... My hubby felt them way before I did. At one point I actually thought he was crazy...Poor fellow.... Shame on me.....TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "" <bobbyboyd99@...>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:29:32 -0000<bird mites >Subject: Re: Is Ivermectin effective on Bird Mites? I knew I've been letting my fem side out too much lately. Testosterone supplements, more football, and joing a team of something is in my future if it help's me get rid of these...lol. I think a lot of men have these too. Maybe men have less nerves per sq inch of skin than a woman does and feel them less. I quess I'm one of the sensitive types that feel em all the time. bob > > > > > > Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected > > > Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite > > problem. > > > For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to > > prefer > > > my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my > > eyebrows > > > and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which is > > why > > > I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the spot I > > > missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to me. > > > Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why else > > > they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me. > > > > > > Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver? > > > > > > When it came to the Ivermectin, I'm not sure if that was what made > > the bites go away or the Prednisone. They may have still been biting > > and the itchy rash didn't show up because my body didn't react to > > the bites. In my case the whole mitemare came on slowly, my body and > > clothes were infected when I came in the house, but I didn't notice > > until they multiplied and started biting in mass about a month > > later. It wasn't until much later that I noticed the tickling by the > > nose and ears. The first dose I took made me really uncoordinated > > and slow. I would lose my balance easily and didn't have good muscle > > control. The symptoms lasted about 20 hrs. The second dose didn't > > even faze me. I didn't have any long term side effects. I've heard > > that tobacco is a repellent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Cause we are all 'warm and fuzzy'! but seriously I read it's because women tend to have higher body temps than men, especially at night.... and the cigs have to menthol...i am not a smoker but i will damn sure light up a NEWPORT if i get swarmed...and it stops them. > > >> > > Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected> > > Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite > > problem.> > > For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to > > prefer> > > my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my > > eyebrows> > > and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which is > > why> > > I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the spot I> > > missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to me.> > > Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why else> > > they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me.> > > > > > Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver? > > > > > > When it came to the Ivermectin, I'm not sure if that was what made > > the bites go away or the Prednisone. They may have still been biting > > and the itchy rash didn't show up because my body didn't react to > > the bites. In my case the whole mitemare came on slowly, my body and > > clothes were infected when I came in the house, but I didn't notice > > until they multiplied and started biting in mass about a month > > later. It wasn't until much later that I noticed the tickling by the > > nose and ears. The first dose I took made me really uncoordinated > > and slow. I would lose my balance easily and didn't have good muscle > > control. The symptoms lasted about 20 hrs. The second dose didn't > > even faze me. I didn't have any long term side effects. I've heard > > that tobacco is a repellent. > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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too funny...that's what it is...the male has to be slightly in touch with his feminine side or at least NOT BE IN DENIAL, just because they want to prove YOU wrong! oh sorry, got carried away there. lol. I see my hubby scratching, rubbing his nose constantly but he wouldnt dare admit it! Then it would mean I knew what I was talking about. HAH. thank you, robert, for embracing ur feminine side and recognizing what's going on so you could do something about it instead of sticking ur head up ur arse and infecting people around u! Ya'll ARE THE REAL MEN! > > > > > > > > Hi L. Yes, your advice is of immense help! I've often suspected > > > > Ivermectin is a short term solution, at best, for a bird mite > > > problem. > > > > For me, the biting is all over the body, though they do seem to > > > prefer > > > > my head. I have a problem with the things crawling around my > > > eyebrows > > > > and lashes whenever I forgo the sulfur. It's relentless, which > is > > > why > > > > I considered Ivermectin. And they always manage to find the > spot I > > > > missed. Meanwhile, the husband is hardly effected compared to > me. > > > > Maybe I should take up his smoking habit. I can't imagine why > else > > > > they'd eschew him in favor of little ol' me. > > > > > > > > Did you have any bad side effects from the Iver? > > > > > > > > When it came to the Ivermectin, I'm not sure if that was what > made > > > the bites go away or the Prednisone. They may have still been > biting > > > and the itchy rash didn't show up because my body didn't react to > > > the bites. In my case the whole mitemare came on slowly, my body > and > > > clothes were infected when I came in the house, but I didn't > notice > > > until they multiplied and started biting in mass about a month > > > later. It wasn't until much later that I noticed the tickling by > the > > > nose and ears. The first dose I took made me really uncoordinated > > > and slow. I would lose my balance easily and didn't have good > muscle > > > control. The symptoms lasted about 20 hrs. The second dose didn't > > > even faze me. I didn't have any long term side effects. I've > heard > > > that tobacco is a repellent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

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Hi VB,

I did not try to have my bugs ID'd. I guessed that I had poultry

mites because my cat picked them up from abandoned chicken nests. I

caught one on a piece of scotch tape once, and it looked like a mite.

I also saw a tiny white bug that jumped like a flea, and I guess that

was collembola. So I probably had at least a dual infestation of

poultry mites and collembola. I got rid of them through a combination

of the following tactics over the course of about 6 months:

--daily vacuuming and frequent dumping of the vacuum bag. I would put

a piece of flea collar in the bag to suppress bug activity, and then

later I would use the Cedarcide spray on the inside and outside of the

vacuum bag to suppress the bugs. I am still spraying Cedarcide in and

on my vacuum cleaner bags.

--removed all my clothing and linens from closets and dressers and put

them in sealed plastic tubs. I got the cheap ones from Walmart and

sealed the vent holes with duct tape.

--full scale dumping of my possessions that had cotton or rayon in

them, even poly/cotton or poly/rayon blends. This may not be

necessary, but I was going nuts and it made a big difference in my

infestation. I took a couple carloads of stuff to the dump. I also

dumped my mattresses. Some people salvage their mattresses by sealing

them in plastic, but if you do this be sure to seal it extremely well

(duct tape perhaps), and use thick plastic because the little beasts

can burrow through plastic.

--running a dehumidifier (this was prohibitively expensive for me due

to the high electric rates on Maui)

--steam cleaning the floors (would run the dehumidifier for a couple

of days after steam cleaning)

--after I did all of the above, I sprayed my ceilings, walls, & floors

with Cedarcide. I let it sit and did not vacuum for 2-3 weeks. The

bugs subsided a lot after about 2 weeks. I fogged my place with

Cedarcide about 2 months later, because I thought the bugs were

starting to come back. I would occasionally do spot spraying in the

kitchen and around my computer table, if I thought the bugs were

coming around.

This is just a summary of what I did, hitting the high points of the

tactics that actually worked. I did many things that didn't work.

Bathing and laundry is a whole other ball of wax.

Be careful if you try the topical ivermectin. Try it on a small patch

of skin first.

Aloha,

myrtle

> > >

> > > We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which spends

it's

> > > life on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we suffering

> > > from a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious if

> > > Ivermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration.

> > >

> > > Are any of you using it to treat bird mites?

> > >

> > > We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion

everyday, but

> > > the things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And the

> > > sulfur is really starting to dry us out.

> > >

> > > Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use between

> > > sulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint, neem,

> > > anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with

mineral oil.

> > > It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy. Tried

> > > Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.

> > > Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

> > >

> >

>

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If there is a Walmart in your town, they might have it in the pet care

section. I saw some at my Walmart.

>

> Does anybody know of any feed sores online that you can buy products

like topical ivermectin online. I live in the city and there is not a

reed store for at least 40 miles from here. thanks

>                                                       tommy

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What one did you get and how much did you use a day if you don't mind me asking? thanks tommy From: vbscribe <vbscribe@...>Subject: Re: Is Ivermectin effective on Bird Mites?bird mites Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 4:55 AM

Hi Tommy. I bought some Ivomec 1% from here:

http://www.kvvet. com/KVVet/ search_results. asp?mscssid= 0F432308D6E11462 4A99EEC46E902F4E & Gift=false & GiftID=

Took about four or five days to get it. You can use the injectible

topically. Haven't heard any reports of humans utilizing the pour-on

stuff.

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> > We were told our problem is the Northern Fowl Mite, which spends it's

>

> > life on the host, but doesn't burrow. Now that I know we suffering

>

> > from a blood sucking surface mite and not scabies, I'm curious if

>

> > Ivermectin is still the appropriate drug for consideration.

>

> >

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> > Are any of you using it to treat bird mites?

>

> >

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> > We're currently slathering ourselves with sulfur lotion everyday, but

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> > the things just run for cover in our nose, ears, and eyes. And the

>

> > sulfur is really starting to dry us out.

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> >

>

> > Is there an effective, non-toxic bug repellent we can use between

>

> > sulfur treatments? I made an essential oil mix of peppermint, neem,

>

> > anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with mineral oil.

>

> > It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy. Tried

>

> > Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.

>

> > Small comfort for the terminally itchy.

>

> >

>

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Tommy, we bought the Ivomec 1% solution, item #26601. We're currently

using it on the cats. I may get desperate enough to use it on myself,

though! I know that many people over at the scabies forum (topix.com)

have reported success with it and use it lieu of a doctor's

prescription. When we ordered the Ivomec we also purchased 3ml needle

syringes from KV vet to measure the doses. We have to use a fresh

syringe every time or we contaminate the bottle. Our vet told us a 15

pound cat should get 14ml. So if you're good at math (I'm not,

unfortunately) you could compute the dosage for your weight. We

administer to them orally, and we'll do the same to ourselves if it

comes to that. I'm told you should take it on an empty stomach mixed

with some grapefruit juice.

Alternatively, you could purchase from an offshore source like

magicpharma.com, and order " Stormectol, " which is the human variety of

Ivermectin. The don't require a prescription, but I think they're on

" holiday " till next month. India and all...

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> > > anise, rosemary, orange, eucalyptus, and lemon mixed with

mineral oil.

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> > > It still doesn't repel/kill as good as sulfur, and it's messy. Tried

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> > > Burt's Bees bug repellent too. It's useless. Smells nice, though.

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