Rice Diet

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From: " Sue in NJ " <sparticles@...>

> But if you *do* want to jump in with both feet and lose a lot of weight

> fast, why not look into the Rice Diet? Woman's World just did an article

> on it a few weeks ago,

> *Grains of choice include rice (any type), oatmeal, cream of wheat, cream

> of rice, puffed wheat, puffed rice or shredded wheat

Huh? Sue? Is that you? Are you recommending a diet that allows white,

processed products? This diet is nothing but carbs. No protein at all for

2 weeks then protein once a week until you get to goal. Oh. I see you get

beans after 2 weeks so you could get some protein there.

Are you going to try this? Go for it girl. We all have to find our own

path but it surprised me that you recommended this one. When was the last

time that white rice passed your lips? Of course you'll throw out that " any

type " and insert whole grain.

Ann

Living on broth and flavored water so who am I to say.

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> Huh? Sue? Is that you? Are you recommending a diet that allows white,

> processed products? This diet is nothing but carbs.

Hence the name " Rice " diet. If you read the magazine article or the book

itself, the people now in charge of the program are telling people to eat

whole grains, brown rice, whole wheat bread, etc. It *can* be done with

white rice but brown is preferred. All the pasta and breads *should* be

whole grain.

No protein at all for

> 2 weeks then protein once a week until you get to goal. Oh. I see you

get

> beans after 2 weeks so you could get some protein there.

The jumpstart day - starch and fruit only - is only 1 day a week. You can

have beans from day 1 as part of your starch portion. 1/3 cup beans is 1

starch serving. Even the Foodmover does that. And all grains contain

protein, too, so it's not a protein-free food plan. American's have a love

affair with protein and they typically eat about 10 times what the body

requires each day. Only people doing this program *at* the Rice House eat

only starch/fruit every day for 2 weeks. They *must* be under medical

supervision because of the salt restrictions. People are told *not* to do

jumpstart day more than one day a week because it an lead to trouble.

> Are you going to try this?

I tried back in December (the original plan) and again when the article

about the new plan came out, but by day 2 my blood sugars were crashing down

into the 50's before lunch time. So phase 1 is out for me altogether. The

regular days, the ones with 3 starch and 3 veg and a fruit for lunch and

dinner, is still too low in calories to keep my sugars up, even if I save my

fruit for between meals, something the book says not to do. Even at

maintainence levels, the way to eat after all the weight is lost, the top

calorie count is only around 1200, and men are allowed to go up to 1500.

Those are still starvation levels for a big gal like me and would shut my

metabolism right down.

Dr. McDougall suggested the in-person Rice Diet program in Durham as a cure

for volume eaters, people like me, and probably many of us here who aren't

satisfied with " normal " portion sizes.

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2005nl/november/051100vol.htm

>but it surprised me that you recommended this one.

On the official site's forums, most of the ladies there are losing anywhere

from 4 to 24 pounds in their first week on this plan. Unfortunately, it's

now the third week since the article appeared in Woman's World

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and their weight loss has greatly slowed, some are at a standstill, and

others are starting to regain already with no change to the plan. Oh, well.

Looks like it's the same as any other very low cal food plan.

BUT, if someone's eating is way out of control and totally unhealthy and

they need a quick and easy plan to follow to drop some weight FAST as a

motivator, this one will do the trick to do it a healthy way. The woman in

the article claims she was eating over 10 thousand calories a day before she

started! But unless you're a long term vegetarian already, it's going to be

pretty hard to stick to if you do this on your own. A big meat-eater

wouldn't last a week without being totally frustrated and would probably

binge on a juicy steak first chance he got. Some of the ladies on the forum

are already grabbing burgers and chicken at drive-throughs.

When was the last

> time that white rice passed your lips?

Actually, many times when I make rice I mix it half brown and half white.

It's the only way I get Ed to eat it. If I'm making risotto I use a mix of

arborio white and short grain brown rice. That stuff packs together like a

slushy snowball! LOL

>Of course you'll throw out that " any

> type " and insert whole grain.

Not me but the tti's, the authors of the newest 2 books and current

directors of the Rice House. The *original* Rice Diet, developed by Dr.

Werner Kempner in the late 1930's, used plain white rice and canned fruit

cocktail, and the plan consisted of only that for at least a month, then

tomatoes and green peppers were allowed for the next 2 weeks, then other

veggies were allowed for a few weeks, and so on. This web site:

http://www.angelfire.com/sc2/ricediet/

explains the original plan. The book written by Judy Moskovitz about it

stresses that phase 1 is not to be done at home, only at the Rice House

where you can be closely monitored for electrolyte imbalances.

You see, the " hook " of the food plan is not the rice/fruit combo but the

cutting out of salt. Most Americans get 3000 mg and up of sodium in their

diets, which leads to water retention and somehow that sodium also helps

your tissues retain the fat in the body (I haven't read the books so have no

idea how this is supposed to happen). By keeping your diet between 300 mg

and 1000 mg a day (Yep, for the rest of your life) you prevent all that from

happening. But in the earliest phases, when the daily sodium intake is 300

mg or so that occur naturally in the water used to cook the starches and in

the soil the fruit grew in, it's a shock to your system and you may become

weak and dizzy, plus if you've been eating a large amount of salty processed

foods, going down to this low level can cause those electrolyte imbalances

and cause cardiac arrythmias (I went through that as a kid when on

restricted salt and fluids for the 2 years I was on 1000 calories and lost

only 30 pounds). Now that I've been on a low salt diet for 40 or so years,

I'm already used to this very low level of sodium allowed in this food plan.

Of course, many women on the forums are still doing phase 1 - only starch

and fruit - for the past 2 weeks at home instead of only 1 day a week, as

directed, and complaining of the dizziness and dropping off the program like

flies.

> Living on broth and flavored water so who am I to say.

When do you get your first solid foods? I know, it won't really be " solid " ,

but still. When my brother had his ulcer surgery (half his stomach and a few

feet of intestines were removed) a few years back he was on liquids for 6

weeks. He made his first " solid " meal a steak that he liquidized in the

blender. Gee, can you tell this whole family has problems when it comes to

food? LOL

Hope you're healing well and will be out and about soon.

Sue in NJ