RE: OT help: congested breath and coughs

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Hi Sara

Sorry to here about Shalom

At 07:26 AM 12/07/2004 -0000, you wrote:

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>Shalom had bad cold, and he threw up last week. now the fever is

>gone but he is still cranky and he coughs on and off. As we are deaf

>we don't hear his breath. people say he sounds congested. they tell

>me he needs to go to pediatrician to have his lungs checked if they

>are clear or not, in fear of nemonia.

Since you can't hear him you can't tell me what he sounds like - he needs

to get to a homeopath

He doesn't need drugs. They willjust drug and stop it causing worse

problems later.

Possibly Antimonium tartaricum (a remedy) - they are thirstless with a

rattle, loud cough. Usually vomiting with this cough though. Sometimes

cold sweat at night

or

Pulsatilla is thirstless with a cough also - better fresh air, sitting up,

worse getting hot, can disturb the sleep (nearly always dry at night and

worse in the mornings.) The child is often more clingy and wants to be held.

Do either of these sound like him?

I'll send the info on administering remedies.

If he behaves fine, I wouldn't worry too much. Just needs help on getting

the cough to leave. (not suppressing it)

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-----Original Message-----

From: Sheri Nakken [mailto:vaccineinfo@...]

<< Just needs help on getting

the cough to leave. (not suppressing it)>>

Wow, I am chatty tonight. Anyway.I do not know much of homeopathy, and

what I know (perhaps due to lack of knowledge)doesn't seem to make sense

to me-however-it NEVER made sense to me to use cough suppressants.

Maybe I was lucky/unusual but as I grew up my doctor never would give

them to my mother when she'd ask.he maybe was a bit unconventional but

he was very 'conservative' and very rarely prescribed anything. He

really seemed to believe (and maybe this was because it was a small town

long long ago far from the reaches of insurance companies.) that in some

cases medical intervention could help but he liked to think of himself

as a health consultant who advised on how to keep healthy, that the body

could effectively heal itself if we didn't get in the way with adding

'too much junk'. I was a premedical student myself and after talking

long and hard with a lot of traditional doctors I decided against

pursuing it and returned to studying chemistry. I had many doctors tell

me they wish they had never gone into medicine: they are not allowed to

help people in a way that fits with their conscience, but feel overly

obligated to medicate, alleviate, push out the door, see the next

patient after collecting X dollars for the insurance company. I've never

been one to go to the doctor much; I have required surgery once but that

is about it.

I have several friends who are physicians and/or osteopaths and they

tend to look at my disdain for turning to medical help so quickly as a

bit paranoid.but I then think of the old joke " but if they ARE out to

'get you', then you're not being paranoid! " My first husband died from

malignant melanoma after many valiant efforts by the medical community

and others.but it did leave me with a feeling that our life would have

been better spent deepening our relationship within the context of what

was happening rather than letting doctors 'experiment' with clinical

trials. It breaks my heard to read the continuing research, first having

said 'many experiments show great promise', now only a few years later

saying 'these approaches were abandoned because they didn't do squat'.

Many, interestingly, were vaccine trials.

Anyway the long and short of it is that I am interested in herbal

therapies if anyone has any direction they can point me. I would like

to learn to take better care of me and my family without having to

resort to the 'system' unless absolutely critically necessary. (I

believe they do have a role, but much much much too large a role for my

comfort!) I do not know how to evaluate web material credibility when

it comes to this kind of thing.

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At 06:34 PM 12/07/2004 +0100, you wrote:

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>-----Original Message-----

>From: Sheri Nakken [mailto:vaccineinfo@...]

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><< Just needs help on getting

>the cough to leave. (not suppressing it)>>

>

>Wow, I am chatty tonight. Anyway.I do not know much of homeopathy, and

>what I know (perhaps due to lack of knowledge)doesn't seem to make sense

>to me-

See my webpage for an article I wrote on how a homeopath works

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

however-it NEVER made sense to me to use cough suppressants.

>Maybe I was lucky/unusual but as I grew up my doctor never would give

>them to my mother when she'd ask.he maybe was a bit unconventional but

>he was very 'conservative' and very rarely prescribed anything. He

>really seemed to believe (and maybe this was because it was a small town

>long long ago far from the reaches of insurance companies.) that in some

>cases medical intervention could help but he liked to think of himself

>as a health consultant who advised on how to keep healthy, that the body

>could effectively heal itself if we didn't get in the way with adding

>'too much junk'.

Exactly

A cough(and every symptom is there for a reason) - it is trying to

dissipate a disturbance (as well as get rid of crud)

You stop it, or any symptom, you fight the body and it has to find another

outlet to try to dissipate the disturbance.

I was a premedical student myself and after talking

>long and hard with a lot of traditional doctors I decided against

>pursuing it and returned to studying chemistry. I had many doctors tell

>me they wish they had never gone into medicine: they are not allowed to

>help people in a way that fits with their conscience, but feel overly

>obligated to medicate, alleviate, push out the door, see the next

>patient after collecting X dollars for the insurance company. I've never

>been one to go to the doctor much; I have required surgery once but that

>is about it.

Yup

>

>I have several friends who are physicians and/or osteopaths and they

>tend to look at my disdain for turning to medical help so quickly as a

>bit paranoid.but I then think of the old joke " but if they ARE out to

>'get you', then you're not being paranoid! " My first husband died from

>malignant melanoma after many valiant efforts by the medical community

>and others.but it did leave me with a feeling that our life would have

>been better spent deepening our relationship within the context of what

>was happening rather than letting doctors 'experiment' with clinical

>trials.

I'm so sorry........yes, I hear you there.

It breaks my heard to read the continuing research, first having

>said 'many experiments show great promise', now only a few years later

>saying 'these approaches were abandoned because they didn't do squat'.

But they made lots of money doing them.

>Many, interestingly, were vaccine trials.

But they made lots of money doing them.

>Anyway the long and short of it is that I am interested in herbal

>therapies if anyone has any direction they can point me. I would like

>to learn to take better care of me and my family without having to

>resort to the 'system' unless absolutely critically necessary. (I

>believe they do have a role, but much much much too large a role for my

>comfort!) I do not know how to evaluate web material credibility when

>it comes to this kind of thing.

Don't know herbs, just homeopathy

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner