Re: colic- anything else we can try????

[Guest guest]

Poor little guy and you've looked everywhere almost

The RIGHT one remedy could do the trick.

I'll send the remedies - find the one that matches him the best and try

that one.

Will also send dosage info

Sheri

At 05:17 PM 11/04/2004 -0000, you wrote:

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>my son Nico is almost 3 months old, but is still colicky. you know

>how they say that 3 months is a magic number and the colic goes away

>after??/

>

>we've tried everything we could think of!it never seemed right anyway

>that he would cry so much, but i am really at the end of my wits now!

>

>i had the easiest pregnancy imaginable, the birth was unremarkable,

>his Apgar score 9 (slightly purplish hands and feet), he came out

>wailing and started sucking like he had been waiting for that moment

>for 9 months. loved sucking... lost only 250 gr (8 ounces?), regained

>his birth weight on day 5 and has been gaing steadily since. Birth

>weight 7 lb 11, now he is 13lb 7 ounces. never had any shots- not

>even vitamin K, no eye-drops at the hospital, exclusively breastfed,

>sleeps in our bedroom on a Babesafe wrapped mattress...oh, i had a

>hardt time after giving birth myself- had a surgery and was on

>morphine for about aweek- could that have really messed him up? or

>the fact that i was in a lot of pain?

>

> at 2 weeks of age he started showing us that there was a lot of

>intestinal discomfort- started throwing up huge amounts- but didn't

>seem to mind, would go back to sucking right away. Also, he was

>gassy, would suddenly cry in pain, draw his knees into his stomach,

>arch back, kick his feet... then pass gas, cry harder, etc. often had

>green stools. bowel movements were extremely dramatic- looked like

>they were painful- but stools were soft and regular...

>

>With the help of a lactation consultant we figured out that i had too

>much milk and a forceful let-down- he was getting " too much too

>fast " . I worked on reducing my milk supply, about a month ago he

>stopped throwing up, his stools became mustardy in color, but he is

>still in pain it seems! bm's are still dramatic, still gassy, spits

>up small amounts while burping

>

>For two months now I have been on a very limited diet: no dairy,

>eggs, wheat, corn, beans, cabbage and Co, coffee, garlic, onions,

>citrus...meals are very boring indeed...but it doesn't seem to make

>any difference! i slip occasionally- he cries just the same!

>

>nights are actually not too bad- but he cries lots during the day- he

>can be lying there smiling and cooing and suddenly start wailing!

>

>what we have tried:

>gripe water- only helps his hiccups occasionally

>

>ovol- doesn't seem to help at all and i am very reluctant to give

>it " preventatively " before meals- anybody knows how bad this stuff is?

>

>chiropractor- maybe 5 or 6 visits already? the chiro is pleased with

>adustments, but this doesn't affect Nico's crying

>

>i have started giving him acidophyllis- too early to know whether it

>makes any difference

>

>things that seem to help: white noise (we sleep with the radio on

>static full blast!), singing, pacifier (yes, i gave in...), carrying

>him in an upright position, Nuxil type of homeopathic syrup- every 15

>minutes, Tummy Tub...but none of these address the cause of his

>crying it seems, only calm him down...

>

>other things that might be important, who knows?- very good control

>of his neck from day one; clear skin, no rashes, cold, kind of clammy

>hands and feet; hates tummy time. his skin is slightly red around his

>anus (is it what they call allergy ring?)- public health nurse says

>it's just from his cheecks being squeezed together...

>

>we have ruled out bladder infection and lactose intolerance. our

>pediatrician says the only other possibility(other than " colci " - what

>is colic anyway?!!! isn't it just an excuse for when the reason is

>not known???) is reflux, but the only way to test ofr it seems to be

>x-ray and it is still not a 100% reliable, so I wonder... dr. says,

>if the colic is not gone in a month, he would recommend some antacid

>type of medication... i really hope we won't have to do that...

>

>i don't think it is his personality either- he seems like a happy kid

>when nothing hurts him: smiles lots. even when we think he might hurt

>(like when he headbutted my husband during one of his burping

>sessions up on Dad's shoulder) he doesn't cry... makes us wonder how

>painful his tummy trouble must be!

>

>are we overlooking something? i am so sorry for the little guy and I

>am also agonizing over the idea that something can be really wrong!

>is there anything else we can do? any suggestions would be greatly

>appreciated!

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[Guest guest]

Colic is a catch-all term for unknown crying it seems. I was told Years ago

when my 2nd baby was a few weeks old (he's 20 yrs old now), that his massive

spitting up and crying jags were caused by an immature sphincter muscle at

the base of the esophagus/opening to the stomach. My ped at the time said

that it's normal in some babies, that there was Nothing we could do about

it, and to just wait it out. He said it would mature either at 3mos, 6mos,

or 9mos (times that correspond with typical major growth spurts). Of course,

my son didn't mature until the Full 9 months was over, but hey, it did

happen. ;-) lol

It sounds like you've explored pretty much everything... Unless you want to

try a homeopath, I think you may just have to wait this one out.

Jan G.

SAHM of 8, doula, breastfeeding advocate

[Guest guest]

Our pregnancies sound very similar. My daughters colic lasted into

8 months. It got better with time but it didn't " disappear " . The

only thing that somewhat worked for her was swinging.

He probably inharited something from you.

I wish I would have been into HOmeopathy back then. I'm confident

she would have been successfully treated.

Best of Luck!

Heidi

>

> my son Nico is almost 3 months old, but is still colicky. you know

> how they say that 3 months is a magic number and the colic goes

away

> after??/

>

> we've tried everything we could think of!it never seemed right

anyway

> that he would cry so much, but i am really at the end of my wits

now!

>

> i had the easiest pregnancy imaginable, the birth was

unremarkable,

> his Apgar score 9 (slightly purplish hands and feet), he came out

> wailing and started sucking like he had been waiting for that

moment

> for 9 months. loved sucking... lost only 250 gr (8 ounces?),

regained

> his birth weight on day 5 and has been gaing steadily since. Birth

> weight 7 lb 11, now he is 13lb 7 ounces. never had any shots- not

> even vitamin K, no eye-drops at the hospital, exclusively

breastfed,

> sleeps in our bedroom on a Babesafe wrapped mattress...oh, i had a

> hardt time after giving birth myself- had a surgery and was on

> morphine for about aweek- could that have really messed him up? or

> the fact that i was in a lot of pain?

>

> at 2 weeks of age he started showing us that there was a lot of

> intestinal discomfort- started throwing up huge amounts- but

didn't

> seem to mind, would go back to sucking right away. Also, he was

> gassy, would suddenly cry in pain, draw his knees into his

stomach,

> arch back, kick his feet... then pass gas, cry harder, etc. often

had

> green stools. bowel movements were extremely dramatic- looked like

> they were painful- but stools were soft and regular...

>

> With the help of a lactation consultant we figured out that i had

too

> much milk and a forceful let-down- he was getting " too much too

> fast " . I worked on reducing my milk supply, about a month ago he

> stopped throwing up, his stools became mustardy in color, but he

is

> still in pain it seems! bm's are still dramatic, still gassy,

spits

> up small amounts while burping

>

> For two months now I have been on a very limited diet: no dairy,

> eggs, wheat, corn, beans, cabbage and Co, coffee, garlic, onions,

> citrus...meals are very boring indeed...but it doesn't seem to

make

> any difference! i slip occasionally- he cries just the same!

>

> nights are actually not too bad- but he cries lots during the day-

he

> can be lying there smiling and cooing and suddenly start wailing!

>

> what we have tried:

> gripe water- only helps his hiccups occasionally

>

> ovol- doesn't seem to help at all and i am very reluctant to give

> it " preventatively " before meals- anybody knows how bad this stuff

is?

>

> chiropractor- maybe 5 or 6 visits already? the chiro is pleased

with

> adustments, but this doesn't affect Nico's crying

>

> i have started giving him acidophyllis- too early to know whether

it

> makes any difference

>

> things that seem to help: white noise (we sleep with the radio on

> static full blast!), singing, pacifier (yes, i gave in...),

carrying

> him in an upright position, Nuxil type of homeopathic syrup- every

15

> minutes, Tummy Tub...but none of these address the cause of his

> crying it seems, only calm him down...

>

> other things that might be important, who knows?- very good

control

> of his neck from day one; clear skin, no rashes, cold, kind of

clammy

> hands and feet; hates tummy time. his skin is slightly red around

his

> anus (is it what they call allergy ring?)- public health nurse

says

> it's just from his cheecks being squeezed together...

>

> we have ruled out bladder infection and lactose intolerance. our

> pediatrician says the only other possibility(other than " colci " -

what

> is colic anyway?!!! isn't it just an excuse for when the reason is

> not known???) is reflux, but the only way to test ofr it seems to

be

> x-ray and it is still not a 100% reliable, so I wonder... dr.

says,

> if the colic is not gone in a month, he would recommend some

antacid

> type of medication... i really hope we won't have to do that...

>

> i don't think it is his personality either- he seems like a happy

kid

> when nothing hurts him: smiles lots. even when we think he might

hurt

> (like when he headbutted my husband during one of his burping

> sessions up on Dad's shoulder) he doesn't cry... makes us wonder

how

> painful his tummy trouble must be!

>

> are we overlooking something? i am so sorry for the little guy and

I

> am also agonizing over the idea that something can be really

wrong!

> is there anything else we can do? any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I went through this too and wish I would've been into homeopathy

then. Do you wear your baby in a sling ? That seemed to help for

periods time. Also getting out of the house for lots of walks. I do

remember my midwife said to keep the baby away from fans because the

swallowing of the forced air .

Hope your baby gets some relief soon. You too.

in AZ

> > my son Nico is almost 3 months old, but is still colicky. you

know

> > how they say that 3 months is a magic number and the colic goes

> away

> > after??/

> >