Re: doc?

September 15, 2004

see if their is a DAN doc in the area whose practice is not limited to

autism spectrum. They know about the dangers of vaccines / vaccine injuries

and I do not think they would have a problem accepting whatever exemptions

you get for your child.

doc?

> Hi Everyone!

>

> I have only been on and off because I just had the baby... so I'm

> sorry I'm just popping on to ask questions... LOL

>

> I want to bring the baby to the doc, monthy then bi-monthly for the

> first year, for weight and physical developmental checks etc..

>

> Now, the ped that I originally had, that didn't exactly like our

> decision, but agreed to accept our decision anyway, washed her hands

> of us in the hospital. There was a HUGE issue over the vitamen K

> injection, which I have to tell you about later. (In short,

> apparantly it is mandatory in NYS Hospitals, and they let us know

> that they were doing it with or without our consent. We didn't give

> consent, they did it anyway and now we are seeking a lawsuit against

> the state for violation of the 14th and 1st Amendment.... AND our

> son was jaundiced for a few days... he's clearing up now, but all

> the docs absolutely deny any possible coorolation..) Anyway,

> because of the vitamen K thing, she won't see us anymore.

>

> I went to another prior ped this morning for a weight check and she

> was all set with her needle for the Hep B. I said simply " Oh, no,

> lets hold off on that okay? " I phrased it that way to avoid a

> longer conversation/debate. She made a face, and said she'd respect

> our wishes, but went on and on about getting it done by 18 mos. old

> etc... My husband and I just bit our tongues, we only wanted our

> son checked. But we know she's not going to be easy about it and

> will give us a hard time and may even refuse to treat see us atall,

> I have heard of that happening.

>

> I'm going to interview more peds, and one is a DO, but I'm afraid he

> may be a sell-out to modern medicine also.

>

> Does anyone have any advice? I do want to be able to take my kids

> when I need to... and there are no homeopathic docs near me. Can

> anyone offer any advice? If so I'd love it!

>

> You can email me privately also if you wish.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Laurette

>

September 15, 2004

How about a chiropractor?

Kay

************************

I want to bring the baby to the doc, monthy then bi-monthly for the

first year, for weight and physical developmental checks etc..

I'm going to interview more peds, and one is a DO, but I'm afraid he

may be a sell-out to modern medicine also.

Does anyone have any advice? I do want to be able to take my kids

when I need to... and there are no homeopathic docs near me. Can

anyone offer any advice? If so I'd love it!

Laurette

September 16, 2004

At 12:10 AM 09/16/2004 -0000, you wrote:

>Hi Everyone!

>

>I have only been on and off because I just had the baby... so I'm

>sorry I'm just popping on to ask questions... LOL

>

>I want to bring the baby to the doc, monthy then bi-monthly for the

>first year, for weight and physical developmental checks etc..

why?

you can weigh at home.

And you can check his own physical development.

You are asking for trouble going that often.

>

>Now, the ped that I originally had, that didn't exactly like our

>decision, but agreed to accept our decision anyway, washed her hands

>of us in the hospital. There was a HUGE issue over the vitamen K

>injection, which I have to tell you about later. (In short,

>apparantly it is mandatory in NYS Hospitals, and they let us know

>that they were doing it with or without our consent. We didn't give

>consent, they did it anyway and now we are seeking a lawsuit against

>the state for violation of the 14th and 1st Amendment.... AND our

>son was jaundiced for a few days... he's clearing up now, but all

>the docs absolutely deny any possible coorolation..)

oh, man

this is what happens to you when you participate in their system, everyone

Anyway,

>because of the vitamen K thing, she won't see us anymore.

>

you are fortunate it wasn't something even worse.

>I went to another prior ped this morning for a weight check and she

>was all set with her needle for the Hep B. I said simply " Oh, no,

>lets hold off on that okay? " I phrased it that way to avoid a

>longer conversation/debate. She made a face, and said she'd respect

>our wishes, but went on and on about getting it done by 18 mos. old

>etc... My husband and I just bit our tongues, we only wanted our

>son checked. But we know she's not going to be easy about it and

>will give us a hard time and may even refuse to treat see us atall,

>I have heard of that happening.

GET AWAY from them. You do NOT need pediatricians for your child to live

and thrive.

>

>I'm going to interview more peds, and one is a DO, but I'm afraid he

>may be a sell-out to modern medicine also.

>

>Does anyone have any advice? I do want to be able to take my kids

>when I need to... and there are no homeopathic docs near me. Can

>anyone offer any advice? If so I'd love it!

Remind me where yo live exactly and if a small city, what it is near.

Naturopaths, Chiropractors and homeopaths and family practice docs are who

to consider

But mostly if you don't vaccinate you rarely will have a sick child

>

There are enough red flags here that you should be able to see

If you don't like football why go to a football game

If you don't want a hotdog, why go to a hot dog factory

etc

if you want health, you don't go to someone who injects poisons

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

September 16, 2004

I'm inclined to agree, I never had my children weighed or checked by

a doctor or health nurse ever, I just knew they were fine and if

they weren't I saw my homeopath. The only time we saw a doctor was

for injuries and bad cuts etc for stitches, where he would say -

when was his last tetanus injection and I would say " only 2 months

ago - he'll be fine " . People are often amazed that we don't have

a " family doctor " but honestly - why would we have one...as we

rarely ever get sick.

> >Hi Everyone!

> >

> >I have only been on and off because I just had the baby... so I'm

> >sorry I'm just popping on to ask questions... LOL

> >

> >I want to bring the baby to the doc, monthy then bi-monthly for

the

> >first year, for weight and physical developmental checks etc..

>

> why?

> you can weigh at home.

> And you can check his own physical development.

> You are asking for trouble going that often.

> >

> >Now, the ped that I originally had, that didn't exactly like our

> >decision, but agreed to accept our decision anyway, washed her

hands

> >of us in the hospital. There was a HUGE issue over the vitamen K

> >injection, which I have to tell you about later. (In short,

> >apparantly it is mandatory in NYS Hospitals, and they let us know

> >that they were doing it with or without our consent. We didn't

give

> >consent, they did it anyway and now we are seeking a lawsuit

against

> >the state for violation of the 14th and 1st Amendment.... AND our

> >son was jaundiced for a few days... he's clearing up now, but all

> >the docs absolutely deny any possible coorolation..)

>

> oh, man

> this is what happens to you when you participate in their system,

everyone

>

> Anyway,

> >because of the vitamen K thing, she won't see us anymore.

> >

> you are fortunate it wasn't something even worse.

>

> >I went to another prior ped this morning for a weight check and

she

> >was all set with her needle for the Hep B. I said simply " Oh,

no,

> >lets hold off on that okay? " I phrased it that way to avoid a

> >longer conversation/debate. She made a face, and said she'd

respect

> >our wishes, but went on and on about getting it done by 18 mos.

old

> >etc... My husband and I just bit our tongues, we only wanted our

> >son checked. But we know she's not going to be easy about it and

> >will give us a hard time and may even refuse to treat see us

atall,

> >I have heard of that happening.

>

> GET AWAY from them. You do NOT need pediatricians for your child

to live

> and thrive.

>

> >

> >I'm going to interview more peds, and one is a DO, but I'm afraid

he

> >may be a sell-out to modern medicine also.

> >

> >Does anyone have any advice? I do want to be able to take my

kids

> >when I need to... and there are no homeopathic docs near me. Can

> >anyone offer any advice? If so I'd love it!

>

> Remind me where yo live exactly and if a small city, what it is

near.

> Naturopaths, Chiropractors and homeopaths and family practice docs

are who

> to consider

> But mostly if you don't vaccinate you rarely will have a sick child

>

> >

> There are enough red flags here that you should be able to see

>

> If you don't like football why go to a football game

> If you don't want a hotdog, why go to a hot dog factory

> etc

>

> if you want health, you don't go to someone who injects poisons

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

ALONE.

>

> ******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

down.

> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

destroy

> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

September 16, 2004

Hi Laur...congrats.

Why do you want to take the baby to the doc so often? I only went

twice in a year, if they're not sick, what's the benefit? (as well

as being around potentially sick people)...as others have said, you

can weigh and measure them yourself.

Didnt have vit k as not law in uk but had humongous difficulty

rejecting it, real hassle for weeks on end. cant you get religious

exemption or something over there?

Next time you see them i guess by their own admission you can say

well such and such told me i have until 18ms...that ends that

discussion.

Maybe theres a register of family supporting peds over there? not

sure. heck we dont even have that here, just local mulittask

doctors.

I's not law to take them to a consultant is it? if not, then dont

take them, do the checks youraself and avoid the hassle. go to them

when the childs sick and not before, if then even.

Not sure of usa? specifics but thats my 2c generally, if you're not

sick, don't see a doctor lol

bw

Almasysk (home birth water baby 2003, unvaxed and healthy)

September 16, 2004

Laur,

I'll congratulate you again!! Congrats! lol

I totally understand thinking you want to take the baby to the doctor!

I had Liam 17 months ago. We go to a non-vaxing group of doctors (they

actually do homebirths as well). I took Liam in for a one week weight check

..... peace of mind. LOL and at 2 weeks .... and at 6 weeks..... 150.00 a

pop to put him on a scale and measure him. I made a 3 month appointment. I

called and cancelled when it conflicted with vacation. I made a 6 month

appointment which we went to .... again 150.00 for them to tell me he's

gaining great (couldn't I see that? LOL) he's meeting all the milestones

(again, was I blind?) .... He didn't go back until we all ended up with

pertussis at 13 months. They saw him 3 more times to make sure he wasn't

losing weight (he gained a pound in 2 weeks ... they were in awe) and to

make sure it hadn't turned into pneumonia. He hasn't been back. I do have

an 18 month appt scheduled just so that I have it on record that he's

receiving yearly medical care. In IL, you can't be charged with medical

neglect for non-vaccination, but man alive, I wouldn't want the idiots at

CPS showing up at my door after an ER visit. Although the docs are

wonderful and told me what to say the one time I thought I'd have to take

Liam to the ER, having it on record that he's being seen periodically makes

me feel better IF I ever have to deal with the powers that be!

We will go at 18 months because I have some concerns about his weight. He

pretty much weighs the same now as he did when he had pertussis. He nurses

but he just is NOT a big solids eater (better in the last 2 weeks).

Anyhoo .... I wish I Knew of someone in NY. Maybe go to www.homefirst.com

and call them and ask them if htey have any affiliates in NY.

Best Wishes with that new little one!

Re: doc?

> Hi Laur...congrats.

>

> Why do you want to take the baby to the doc so often? I only went

> twice in a year, if they're not sick, what's the benefit? (as well

> as being around potentially sick people)...as others have said, you

> can weigh and measure them yourself.

>

> Didnt have vit k as not law in uk but had humongous difficulty

> rejecting it, real hassle for weeks on end. cant you get religious

> exemption or something over there?

>

> Next time you see them i guess by their own admission you can say

> well such and such told me i have until 18ms...that ends that

> discussion.

>

> Maybe theres a register of family supporting peds over there? not

> sure. heck we dont even have that here, just local mulittask

> doctors.

>

> I's not law to take them to a consultant is it? if not, then dont

> take them, do the checks youraself and avoid the hassle. go to them

> when the childs sick and not before, if then even.

>

> Not sure of usa? specifics but thats my 2c generally, if you're not

> sick, don't see a doctor lol

>

> bw

>

> Almasysk (home birth water baby 2003, unvaxed and healthy)

>

September 16, 2004

Really? I never even considered that.... why a chiropractor? I

guess I had the wrong idea, I thought chiropractors were only for

back and spine problems? Will they see infants?

Thanks!

Laurette

> How about a chiropractor?

>

> Kay

> ************************

> I want to bring the baby to the doc, monthy then bi-monthly for

the

> first year, for weight and physical developmental checks etc..

>

> I'm going to interview more peds, and one is a DO, but I'm

afraid he

> may be a sell-out to modern medicine also.

>

> Does anyone have any advice? I do want to be able to take my

kids

> when I need to... and there are no homeopathic docs near me.

Can

> anyone offer any advice? If so I'd love it!

>

> Laurette

>

September 16, 2004

Hi!

Thanks for your responses!

It's funny, I can't say that I disagree with you when you say " why

bother? " And it makes sense, " if you don't like football why go to

a game? " That's pretty much how I feel about docs and peds. My

husband rolls his eyes at me too. I suppose it just gives me peace

of mind. I'm knowledgeable and educated in some areas of health and

to some degree, but I don't know everything and sometimes I need

advice etc... you know what I mean. It just makes me feel better

to take them now and then to " make sure " . I know it may not make a

whole lot of sense to many of you... but some will get me LOL I

am also quite certain that they will not get sick very much. Once

we stopped vaxing my first two (why oh why did I ever do it atall!)

they haven't really been sick since besides one low grade fever and

some sniffles during season changes, maybe a little tummy ache when

Grandma feeds them and that's it. However, Godforbid they do get

sick, I want to be able to take them somewhere, and with my newborn,

I'd like to take him for the regular checks... like I said if only

for peace of mind and some advice and discussion... that is why I'd

LOVE to find someone who can atleast half agree with my family

lifestlye and choices. You'd think NYC is sooooooo liberal with all

the anti-republican stuff going on, but it's really very typical

middle-class-mainstream around here.

I have had suggestions of a chiropractor and/or a DAN Doc, I'd like

to hear more about those options. I did find a general practicioner

DO that I haven't interviewed yet, but I'm afraid he's probably a

sell-out Sigh.

Anyway, thanks so much for your help!

Laurette

> > >Hi Everyone!

> > >

> > >I have only been on and off because I just had the baby... so

I'm

> > >sorry I'm just popping on to ask questions... LOL

> > >

> > >I want to bring the baby to the doc, monthy then bi-monthly for

> the

> > >first year, for weight and physical developmental checks etc..

> >

> > why?

> > you can weigh at home.

> > And you can check his own physical development.

> > You are asking for trouble going that often.

> > >

> > >Now, the ped that I originally had, that didn't exactly like

our

> > >decision, but agreed to accept our decision anyway, washed her

> hands

> > >of us in the hospital. There was a HUGE issue over the vitamen

K

> > >injection, which I have to tell you about later. (In short,

> > >apparantly it is mandatory in NYS Hospitals, and they let us

know

> > >that they were doing it with or without our consent. We didn't

> give

> > >consent, they did it anyway and now we are seeking a lawsuit

> against

> > >the state for violation of the 14th and 1st Amendment.... AND

our

> > >son was jaundiced for a few days... he's clearing up now, but

all

> > >the docs absolutely deny any possible coorolation..)

> >

> > oh, man

> > this is what happens to you when you participate in their

system,

> everyone

> >

> > Anyway,

> > >because of the vitamen K thing, she won't see us anymore.

> > >

> > you are fortunate it wasn't something even worse.

> >

> > >I went to another prior ped this morning for a weight check and

> she

> > >was all set with her needle for the Hep B. I said simply " Oh,

> no,

> > >lets hold off on that okay? " I phrased it that way to avoid a

> > >longer conversation/debate. She made a face, and said she'd

> respect

> > >our wishes, but went on and on about getting it done by 18 mos.

> old

> > >etc... My husband and I just bit our tongues, we only wanted

our

> > >son checked. But we know she's not going to be easy about it

and

> > >will give us a hard time and may even refuse to treat see us

> atall,

> > >I have heard of that happening.

> >

> > GET AWAY from them. You do NOT need pediatricians for your

child

> to live

> > and thrive.

> >

> > >

> > >I'm going to interview more peds, and one is a DO, but I'm

afraid

> he

> > >may be a sell-out to modern medicine also.

> > >

> > >Does anyone have any advice? I do want to be able to take my

> kids

> > >when I need to... and there are no homeopathic docs near me.

Can

> > >anyone offer any advice? If so I'd love it!

> >

> > Remind me where yo live exactly and if a small city, what it is

> near.

> > Naturopaths, Chiropractors and homeopaths and family practice

docs

> are who

> > to consider

> > But mostly if you don't vaccinate you rarely will have a sick

child

> >

> > >

> > There are enough red flags here that you should be able to see

> >

> > If you don't like football why go to a football game

> > If you don't want a hotdog, why go to a hot dog factory

> > etc

> >

> > if you want health, you don't go to someone who injects poisons

> > --------------------------------------------------------

> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales

UK

> > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> > vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> > Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> > Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> > Homeopathy On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> > OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS

> ALONE.

> >

> > ******

> > " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

> down.

> > Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

> destroy

> > knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

> information

> > and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

September 16, 2004

,

Thank you!

I will surely visit that site!

Right now, it's nursing time! LOL

Laurette

> Laur,

>

> I'll congratulate you again!! Congrats! lol

>

> I totally understand thinking you want to take the baby to the

doctor!

>

> I had Liam 17 months ago. We go to a non-vaxing group of doctors

(they

> actually do homebirths as well). I took Liam in for a one week

weight check

> .... peace of mind. LOL and at 2 weeks .... and at 6 weeks.....

150.00 a

> pop to put him on a scale and measure him. I made a 3 month

appointment. I

> called and cancelled when it conflicted with vacation. I made a 6

month

> appointment which we went to .... again 150.00 for them to tell me

he's

> gaining great (couldn't I see that? LOL) he's meeting all the

milestones

> (again, was I blind?) .... He didn't go back until we all ended up

with

> pertussis at 13 months. They saw him 3 more times to make sure he

wasn't

> losing weight (he gained a pound in 2 weeks ... they were in awe)

and to

> make sure it hadn't turned into pneumonia. He hasn't been back.

I do have

> an 18 month appt scheduled just so that I have it on record that

he's

> receiving yearly medical care. In IL, you can't be charged with

medical

> neglect for non-vaccination, but man alive, I wouldn't want the

idiots at

> CPS showing up at my door after an ER visit. Although the docs are

> wonderful and told me what to say the one time I thought I'd have

to take

> Liam to the ER, having it on record that he's being seen

periodically makes

> me feel better IF I ever have to deal with the powers that be!

>

> We will go at 18 months because I have some concerns about his

weight. He

> pretty much weighs the same now as he did when he had pertussis.

He nurses

> but he just is NOT a big solids eater (better in the last 2 weeks).

>

> Anyhoo .... I wish I Knew of someone in NY. Maybe go to

www.homefirst.com

> and call them and ask them if htey have any affiliates in NY.

>

> Best Wishes with that new little one!

>

> Re: doc?

>

> > Hi Laur...congrats.

> >

> > Why do you want to take the baby to the doc so often? I only went

> > twice in a year, if they're not sick, what's the benefit? (as

well

> > as being around potentially sick people)...as others have said,

you

> > can weigh and measure them yourself.

> >

> > Didnt have vit k as not law in uk but had humongous difficulty

> > rejecting it, real hassle for weeks on end. cant you get

religious

> > exemption or something over there?

> >

> > Next time you see them i guess by their own admission you can say

> > well such and such told me i have until 18ms...that ends that

> > discussion.

> >

> > Maybe theres a register of family supporting peds over there? not

> > sure. heck we dont even have that here, just local mulittask

> > doctors.

> >

> > I's not law to take them to a consultant is it? if not, then dont

> > take them, do the checks youraself and avoid the hassle. go to

them

> > when the childs sick and not before, if then even.

> >

> > Not sure of usa? specifics but thats my 2c generally, if you're

not

> > sick, don't see a doctor lol

> >

> > bw

> >

> > Almasysk (home birth water baby 2003, unvaxed and healthy)

> >

September 16, 2004

Both my kids see a chiropractor, and no other kind of doctor! Gillian went for

her first visit at 6 weeks, and again a few days later - took care of her

" colic " like magic!

Chelly

<nak>

www.diapertesters.com

Re: doc?

Really? I never even considered that.... why a chiropractor? I

guess I had the wrong idea, I thought chiropractors were only for

back and spine problems? Will they see infants?

Thanks!

Laurette

> How about a chiropractor?

>

> Kay

> ************************

> I want to bring the baby to the doc, monthy then bi-monthly for

the

> first year, for weight and physical developmental checks etc..

>

> I'm going to interview more peds, and one is a DO, but I'm

afraid he

> may be a sell-out to modern medicine also.

>

> Does anyone have any advice? I do want to be able to take my

kids

> when I need to... and there are no homeopathic docs near me.

Can

> anyone offer any advice? If so I'd love it!

>

> Laurette

>

September 16, 2004

> Both my kids see a chiropractor, and no other kind of doctor!

Gillian went for her first visit at 6 weeks, and again a few days

later - took care of her " colic " like magic!

> Chelly

Really? I'm so curious... tell me more.. how did he/she treat her???

Thanks!

September 16, 2004

Chiropractic care does deal with the spine, but the spine has Every single

nerve connection running through it to every single part of your body.

I've taken all my kids to the chiro for Years~ and my last 3 babies were

seen within 2 or 3 days after birth. Misalignments are common during the

birthing process... which can lead to ear infections, trouble nursing on one

side or the other, constant crying, colic, etc.

I do have a pediatrician, but we never see him. He's ok with us not vaxing

and has never given me problems (in fact was extremely supportive of only

breastfeeding even when my youngest wasn't really growing), but I Still got

nervous walking into the office! lol I feel much more comfortable with our

chiro and he knows we consider him our primary caregiver. :-)

Jan G.

SAHM of 8, doula, breastfeeding advocate

September 16, 2004

I have not had regular chiro care since it is really expensive for me to do

so. However when chiros adjust infants they usally use a pinky and apply

gentle pressure to the area where it is out alingnment.

Chiro care is not only for problems it is also for general wellness.

http://www.mercola.com/2003/nov/12/beyond_bad_backs.htm

This arlticle is a first in a series of articles at Dr. Mercola's website.

This article talks about that not all chiropractors are good but generally

they are.

I didn't have any colicy babies but I did notice that my 2nd child had alot

of gas and he got adjusted and almost had no gas whatsoever.

Anyway the article above talks about it alot.

Rena

-- Re: doc?

> Both my kids see a chiropractor, and no other kind of doctor!

Gillian went for her first visit at 6 weeks, and again a few days

later - took care of her " colic " like magic!

> Chelly

Really? I'm so curious... tell me more.. how did he/she treat her???

Thanks!

September 16, 2004

Hi,

I really appreciate everythign about the chiropractors! I think I

will look for one, I know there are many of them around. Please

tell me, is there anything particular I should ask or discuss when I

go to see them to make sure that they are what I'm looking for?

Thanks!

Laurette

> > Both my kids see a chiropractor, and no other kind of doctor!

> Gillian went for her first visit at 6 weeks, and again a few days

> later - took care of her " colic " like magic!

> > Chelly

>

> Really? I'm so curious... tell me more.. how did he/she treat

her???

>

> Thanks!

>

September 16, 2004

Here is another thing you can try that is expensive at first but is cheaper than

doctor visits. You can get a digital baby scale on E-Bay or various other

places. It is easy to measure thier height. Just lay them down somewhere against

something with their head against the wall or the arm of a couch and mark the

distance after you remove the child.

The scale is a great monitoring tool as well if you want ounces to be measured.

If you dont want to go the scale route you could find an accurate scale weigh

yourself and yourself with the child and do the simple math.

There are plenty of websites that update you you about where your child should

be developmentally. Babycenter will send you updates monthly or as needed to

give you details. They will tell you how you should vaccinate as well but you

likely know better than to just go along with all medical advice.

April

Subject: Re: doc?

September 16, 2004

My Chiro is very gentle, and basically just picks up the baby (well thats all it

looks like)

She has a move she calls the swing where she'll pick the baby up by their heels

and let them hang upside down for a minute....

They do lie down for a neck adjustment but neither kid ever fussed or cried

about any of it.

Gillian will POOP right after being adjusted, like clockwork, it cracks me

up.....

Chelly

Owner of:

http://www.diapertesters.com

Re: doc?

> Both my kids see a chiropractor, and no other kind of doctor!

Gillian went for her first visit at 6 weeks, and again a few days

later - took care of her " colic " like magic!

> Chelly

Really? I'm so curious... tell me more.. how did he/she treat her???

Thanks!

September 16, 2004

Besides doctors do not have the mothers instinct. My daughter would have been

treated as a failure to thrive baby if I did not trust my instincts before

anything anyone else or the doctor said. The growth charts are all based on

bottle fed babies. They need charts based on breast fed babies to make more

sense. If your child is happy and well adjusted, then who needs a doctor to

tell you they are fine.

wings <wingsout@...> wrote:

Here is another thing you can try that is expensive at first but is cheaper than

doctor visits. You can get a digital baby scale on E-Bay or various other

places. It is easy to measure thier height. Just lay them down somewhere against

something with their head against the wall or the arm of a couch and mark the

distance after you remove the child.

The scale is a great monitoring tool as well if you want ounces to be measured.

If you dont want to go the scale route you could find an accurate scale weigh

yourself and yourself with the child and do the simple math.

There are plenty of websites that update you you about where your child should

be developmentally. Babycenter will send you updates monthly or as needed to

give you details. They will tell you how you should vaccinate as well but you

likely know better than to just go along with all medical advice.

April

Subject: Re: doc?

September 16, 2004

Laurette, I would look for a Chiropractor that is willing to

set up a complimentary consultation appointment for you when

you tell him/her that you are looking for a family wellness

Chiropractor. If they're willing to do that then at least

you know they are open to a patient who has questions and

they are willing to be interviewed for the job. YOU are

hiring THEM. Then you need to prepare for the interview

with questions that can be answered in 20/30 minutes. I

think that's enough time to get a feel for the

doctor/office/staff. Be sure to read all the info on Dr.

Mercola's site about chirpractic care. That will help you

know what to look for. I'll be real interested to hear your

experiences. I'd like to think all the Chiropractors are as

good as all the ones I know but recently I've heard some

stories contrary to this.

* Hi,

I really appreciate everythign about the chiropractors! I

think I

will look for one, I know there are many of them around.

Please

tell me, is there anything particular I should ask or

discuss when I

go to see them to make sure that they are what I'm looking

for?

Thanks!

Laurette

> > Both my kids see a chiropractor, and no other kind of

doctor!

> Gillian went for her first visit at 6 weeks, and again a

few days

> later - took care of her " colic " like magic!

> > Chelly

>

> Really? I'm so curious... tell me more.. how did he/she

treat

her???

>

> Thanks!

>

September 16, 2004

ITA with Sheri. Laurette you need to check out " How to raise a healthy child in

spite of your doctor " by Dr. Mendelsohn. It will open your eyes to the

useless field we call Pediatrics.

--

Aimee, Mom to Marah-Jade Born 09/17/03 vaccine free since 12/03

" Half of the modern drugs could well be thrown out of the window, except that

the birds might eat them. Dr. Henry Fischer "