Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 That's the craziest thing I have ever seen! Child abuse? What a nutter that guy is! Aimee, Mom to partially vaxed Marah-Jade 8 months on Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Oh, wow....is this guy a doctor? I didn't take the time to look at his entire site. Just the page which contains the pictures, email repsonses and his rude reponses back. Ay yay yay! It's amazing to see just how clueless these people are. It's a realization of just how brainwashed the country is about vaccines. Don't worry, all will be made quite clear at the end of our time on this planet! All men will surely know then, the travesty and lies accompanying vaccinations. -------Kimberley Medlin--------- VACCINES: Keeping our children from harm or playing a game of Russian Roulette? LIVE VACCINATIONS CHAT ROOM http://vaccinationsandSIDS.com or Download MIRC chatware at http://www.mirc.com/index.html , install, and join the [ #vaccinations ] channel ChristianityandVaccinations_AZvac-lib/ Ratbags...ARGH Does that ratbags creep EVER take stuff off his website. It's been forever and he still has the pics of my kids on there that he stole from the archives. http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars/chickenpox.htm Diane and Jim Emerick emerick@... Blake, 6 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 3 years old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html " Uneducated people believe what they are told... Educated people question what they are told " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 I couldn't get the url to come up?? Nicki Ratbags...ARGH Does that ratbags creep EVER take stuff off his website. It's been forever and he still has the pics of my kids on there that he stole from the archives. http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars/chickenpox.htm <http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars/chickenpox.htm> Diane and Jim Emerick emerick@... Blake, 6 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 3 years old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html <http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html> " Uneducated people believe what they are told... Educated people question what they are told " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 I don't know....maybe give it another whirl???? http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars/chickenpox.htm Diane and Jim Emerick emerick@... Blake, 6 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 3 years old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html " Uneducated people believe what they are told... Educated people question what they are told " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 I sent him the following email: While I can see your need to highlight what you think are lies against vaccines, you like many others, fail to offer up studies that give conclusive evidence that inoculating children with 25mcg thimerosal in Hib, 12.5mcg in Hep b, 25mcg in the DTaP, 25mcg in the flu vaccine and 25mcg.... will do them no harm. Shouldn't such information be accompanied by your comments in order to truly convince any skeptical readers that vaccines are safe and effective? Do you know just exactly what is in each vaccine? Have you read the publications from Centers of Disease Control and Prevention and the statement made by the FDA that less than 10% of vaccine induced injuries are never reported due to gross under reporting? It's these statements that give parents valid concern on the safety of vaccines. Oh, and even more interesting, have you heard the statement made by the World Health Organization as to the fact that if thimerosal was used to inactivate the potent microorganisms in the vaccines, that the vaccines would pose even more danger? I'd be even more interested if you can provide me with studies containing conclusive evidence that thimerosal (mercury) and the pathogens in vaccines pose no risk or harm to any inoculated individual. If vaccines were 100% effective, I would consent to them. However, when my child goes into the ER on account of seizures or anaphylactic shock minutes after the last round of vaccinations (something that never happened before vaccinations), I believe I've been given cause for serious reservations. If you're in the least bit interested to review WHO's statements, I can forward their PDF file. The thimerosal table can be found at www.vaccinesafety.edu of Hopkin's University that advocates FOR vaccines. Centers of Disease Control also makes their vaccine excipient and media list available on their site. http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/Appendices/A/Excipient.pdf Then when you've looked through VAERS (vaccine adverse effects reporting system http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaers/vaers.htm ) and researched the reported adverse reactions, get back in touch with me and tell me that I have no need to be concerned of the dangers of vaccines. If you are already aware of this information, especially that of the government's clear knowledge of vaccine induced injuries every year, then to continue labeling parents that appose vaccines as ignorant fools, is truly a statement made with false presumptions based on your own false claims in support of vaccinations. Parents who's children are included in the government VAERS statistics....the fact that they are part of such government statistics is not only proof of such a thing as danger in vaccinations, but also gives these parents all the more reason to be angry with what happened to their children. The government clearly acknowledges vaccines are not risk free. What more proof does one need other than the fact that the government set up the compensation fund? http://www.hrsa.gov/osp/vicp/monthly.htm Who's the fool? The parents concerned or those that bash the parents for being concerned of the dangers of vaccines? What about those that insist on inoculating children after they've already been rushed to the ER minutes after the last inoculation? I would have to consider them fools, myself. And for the people, such as yourself that spit back at angry parents, who don't provide conclusive evidence in the claim that vaccines are safe and effective...my advise to you is to provide such information to your readers. I'd say to start with the information in the product inserts of each vaccine that comes with every shipment. However, maybe the information on adverse reactions documented after the inoculation of each vaccine (listed in the product insert) you'd be too afraid of finding yourself. It's there. I've read them all. Reactions, such as DEATH, are also listed in the product inserts. Such reactions, and others, are what sends inoculated children to the ER. Just because it didn't happen to your own child, in no means vaccines are irrefutably safe for everyone. VAERS is proof of that. You certainly make the implication when you discredit the warnings which you label " anti-vaccine... " And in the case of Alan Yurko, maybe you're not aware that the doctor that performed the autopsy is reported to having made false reports in his findings? That information is not put out by the so-called " anti-vax " groups. The local paper put this out. Not the suspicion of it, but the very finding of the fact. Before calling the anti-vaccine folks, liars...maybe you should check the fatally flawed history of vaccines. You're the one advocating for the biggest lie in medical medicine, which claims that vaccines are safe and effective. If vaccines were safe and effective, then why is a portion of what parents pay for vaccines going to the congressional compensation fund? I live in Arizona in which the statutory law states that parents don't even have to provide a shot record as long as they write and sign a statement saying they don't consent to vaccines. Yet, every school in Arizona that I've asked does not make this information available. Instead, they exclusively state the one statutory law saying that children can be excluded from school if they are not up-to-date on vaccines. The strong implication is made that vaccinations are the law and schools have the legal right to enforce them. There's two ways to tell a lie, 1-blatantly stating one and 2-not verbalizing all the facts. Who's lying? My pediatrician said that all mercury has been removed from vaccines and children are therefore no longer being inoculated with mercury. However, the product inserts say differently. Who's lying? WHO already stated they wouldn't take it out. Having serious reservation for your words against parents concerned of the dangers of vaccines, -------Kimberley Medlin--------- From: The Emerick Family Vaccinations Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:25 AM Subject: Re: Ratbags...ARGH I don't know....maybe give it another whirl???? http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars/chickenpox.htm Diane and Jim Emerick emerick@... Blake, 6 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 3 years old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html " Uneducated people believe what they are told... Educated people question what they are told " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 DO NOT WRITE TO THIS GUY HE WAS ON THE LIST AND HAD SPIES ON THE LIST AND I GOT THEM OFF AND HE THINKS THE LIST WAS DISBANDED HE IS HORRIBLE TROUBLE..............DON'T STIR HIM UP At 09:17 AM 05/13/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Oh, wow....is this guy a doctor? I didn't take the time to look at his entire site. Just the page which contains the pictures, email repsonses and his rude reponses back. Ay yay yay! It's amazing to see just how clueless these people are. It's a realization of just how brainwashed the country is about vaccines. Don't worry, all will be made quite clear at the end of our time on this planet! All men will surely know then, the travesty and lies accompanying vaccinations. > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Hi Sheri, I would love to know how you knew that these leaches were on the list and which ones they were, but then you would be giving away your secrets. Keep up the good work! -- Re: Ratbags...ARGH DO NOT WRITE TO THIS GUY HE WAS ON THE LIST AND HAD SPIES ON THE LIST AND I GOT THEM OFF AND HE THINKS THE LIST WAS DISBANDED HE IS HORRIBLE TROUBLE..............DON'T STIR HIM UP At 09:17 AM 05/13/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Oh, wow....is this guy a doctor? I didn't take the time to look at his entire site. Just the page which contains the pictures, email repsonses and his rude reponses back. Ay yay yay! It's amazing to see just how clueless these people are. It's a realization of just how brainwashed the country is about vaccines. Don't worry, all will be made quite clear at the end of our time on this planet! All men will surely know then, the travesty and lies accompanying vaccinations. > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 At 03:12 PM 05/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Sheri, I would love to know how you knew that these leaches were on the >list and which ones they were, but then you would be giving away your >secrets. Keep up the good work! > > thanks I do my best and I'm sure there are some who have slipped through now even. But can't divulge my methods ;-) Sheri > >-- Re: Ratbags...ARGH > >DO NOT WRITE TO THIS GUY >HE WAS ON THE LIST AND HAD SPIES ON THE LIST AND I GOT THEM OFF AND HE >THINKS THE LIST WAS DISBANDED >HE IS HORRIBLE TROUBLE..............DON'T STIR HIM UP > >At 09:17 AM 05/13/2004 -0700, you wrote: >>Oh, wow....is this guy a doctor? I didn't take the time to look at his >entire site. Just the page which contains the pictures, email repsonses >and his rude reponses back. Ay yay yay! It's amazing to see just how >clueless these people are. It's a realization of just how brainwashed the >country is about vaccines. Don't worry, all will be made quite clear at >the end of our time on this planet! All men will surely know then, the >travesty and lies accompanying vaccinations. >> >-------------------------------------------------------- >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK >$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account >vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 >(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail >Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm >Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass >htm >Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL >OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > >****** > " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. >Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy >knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information >and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 SHERI, I'M SO SORRY....I DIDN'T GET YOUR WARNING BEFORE EMAIL HIM!!!! -------Kimberley Medlin--------- VACCINES: Keeping our children from harm or playing a game of Russian Roulette? LIVE VACCINATIONS CHAT ROOM http://www.vaccinationsandSIDS.com or Download MIRC chatware at http://www.mirc.com/index.html , install, and join the [ #vaccinations ] channel ChristianityandVaccinations_AZvac-lib/ Re: Ratbags...ARGH DO NOT WRITE TO THIS GUY HE WAS ON THE LIST AND HAD SPIES ON THE LIST AND I GOT THEM OFF AND HE THINKS THE LIST WAS DISBANDED HE IS HORRIBLE TROUBLE..............DON'T STIR HIM UP At 09:17 AM 05/13/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Oh, wow....is this guy a doctor? I didn't take the time to look at his entire site. Just the page which contains the pictures, email repsonses and his rude reponses back. Ay yay yay! It's amazing to see just how clueless these people are. It's a realization of just how brainwashed the country is about vaccines. Don't worry, all will be made quite clear at the end of our time on this planet! All men will surely know then, the travesty and lies accompanying vaccinations. > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Why don't you involve the police!! Pictures of children are kept OFF the internet because of abuse by paedophiles. Ratbags...ARGH > > > Does that ratbags creep EVER take stuff off his website. It's been forever > and he still has the pics of my kids on there that he stole from the > archives. > http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars/chickenpox.htm > <http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars/chickenpox.htm> > > Diane and Jim Emerick > emerick@... > Blake, 6 years old (12-25-97) > Amber, 3 years old (2-17-01) > Please visit our homepage at: > http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html > <http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html> > > " Uneducated people believe what they are told... > Educated people question what they are told " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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