Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 At 09:57 PM 01/16/2004 -0000, you wrote: >Hi . I also have a 4 month old baby (born September 15) and >people always comment on how alert and happy she is too. She is >*always* happy, always smiling. She also has not been vaxed and never >will be. I also have a 3 year old daughter who is unvaxed. When she >was born the pediatrician tried scaring me into vaxing her. I refused >any vaxes. He refused to sign her birth certificate which still >really irritates me. What the * & ^ & $%^. I cannot say what I am thinking right now on this list.............these nazi doctors INFURIATE me. The gaul. I was alone at the time he came in and talked to >me. I called my dh at home in tears and told him if they came in to >my room and talked vaxes again and he was there that he needed to >stand behind me 100%. I am so glad my dh wasn't in the room or after >hearing what that doctor said, my dh wouldn't have " made " me vax our >children. My dh believes in vaxes, I don't *at all*. Actually, to be >honest, after hearing what the ped said to me in the hospital, I >thought for a *split* second maybe I was doing something wrong by >*not* vaxing my daughter. in the hospital its the digusting hep b - how on earth have they been brainwashed into thinking this is worth doing at 12 hours and harrassing you. Had I not had the research I had, I >probably would've given in. I can imagine how a new mom with no info >feels and can easily see how they get pressured into vaxing their >children. I know there are others on this list that have spouses >that feel the opposite way about vaxes. I have told my dh to do the >research as I have and then we will discuss vaxing our children. He >won't do the research and part of the reason I'm sure is because he >knows there is absolutely, positively *no* way I'm vaxing our >children. I keep telling him it wouldn't even be done over my dead >body! LOL! Good for you. You women have got to stand up to these men - and you are. But everyday I hear these stories and I know it is terrible BUT DO WHAT you have to do to make them listen. Threaten to leave if you have to - I know it sounds terrible and scary but your children come first in this issue. I don't mean to sound like I'm coming down hard, but this is terrifying what I'm hearing. You are EQUAL to your husbands. you are NOT THEIR CHILDREN. Stop giving sex if you have to ;-) There is a book - something like Women who stopped having sex with their men to take the war out of them - for the life of me I can't remember now. And there is a play about the same thing. You must think I'm nuts here. But this all just infuriates me. PATRIARCHY SUCKS and it is alive and well (or should I say Alive and sick) >He knows there is no compromise on it. GOOD I also deal with >the doctors if we need them (which we haven't) and I will deal with >the schools when it comes time to do that (next year). I'm praying >that I don't have to go through what my parents did to get me in >school (I'm also unvaxed). What state are you in? -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 At 11:09 PM 01/16/2004 -0000, you wrote: >Hey Sherri! I certainly don't think your nuts! :)I totally agree >with everything you said. Actually, I was going to put in my post >that I would leave my husband before I vax my kids!! LOL! I would >too! I know that sounds really, really bad but I could always find a >new husband - not that I want to, but yes, my children come first - >in *everything*. My husband and I don't fight over this ~ he'll roll >his eyes at me when I say something about it, but he usually keeps >his mouth shut! (Smart man, huh - I say that because he knows he >*will not* win on this and we would fight all day about if he starts >talking about the " pros " of vaxes!) I do have the support of my >parents and brothers though who are also very anti vax. The emails I >get from this list every day too also remind me that I *am* doing >what is best for my girls. Glad you don't think I'm nuts but you can't shut me up even if you did! Yup you can always find another husband or NOT! At this point I could care less about another man in my life (except for sex) > >I am in Iowa, religious exempt only. My parents had a difficult time >getting me in and my brothers into school. That was around 25 years >ago too and I'm sure it's even more difficult now. I'm praying >though that I can just go in and sign the religious exempt form and >it will be left at that. Oh dear Iowa I need to find out if anyone has been successful for another person too. Can't believe few in Iowa question this. My undrestanding is you can sign it but they may come and interogate you or something? Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Here are the verses I have to support why we don't vaccinate: Introducing Alien Substances into the Body: I urge you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. Romans 12:1 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price, therefore glorify God in your body. I Corinthians 6:19 Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. I Corinthians 10:31 Examples of Specific Ingredients within Vaccines that may be considered “Alien Substances”: Formaldehyde: a known carcinogen is in the Diphtheria/Tetanus/Pertussis Vaccine Thimerosal: A derivative of mercury and aluminum phosphate is also in the DPT vaccine. Mercury and aluminum are toxic to humans. Human embryonic lung cells and human diploid cells – dissected parts of an aborted fetus used to develop Varivax (chicken pox vaccine) and MMR II (measles, mumps and rubella virus vaccine) `~*`~*`~* Holly~ momma to: iel (5/96) & Jenavieve (5/02) " Our children are never really weaned. They are always in need of our gentle touch and nurturing. " --from The Weaning Process by Eberle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 <Here are the verses I have to support why we don't vaccinate: Introducing Alien Substances into the Body> That was GREAT Holly! Kimberley ChristianityandVaccinations/ --------signature------------- Are you aware that aborted fetal tissue is used in the development and manufacture of vaccines? Read more about this and other startling facts about vaccines at http://www.cogforlife.org and http://www.vaccinetruth.org Here's a list of vaccine ingredients (chick embryo, formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, mercury, aborted fetus tissue, gelatin-boiled pig skin, monkey kidney tissue, boiled cow skin, coagulated horse blood...etc) from Centers for Disease Control http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/Appendices/A/Excipient.pdf Ask the US government what your pediatrician can't answer nipinfo@... I Corinthians 3:16 " Do you not know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?...for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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