Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 Read Dr. Doris Rapp's " Is This Your Child " . Her hypothesis does not go as far as the hypothesis but her information on diet and how to eliminate foods is very comprehensive. Kathy r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 , Hi! What is IIRC grapes? JJ was eating the green ones. Also could you tell me some other foods that has Salicyclates and amines in them? Did you have bad behaviour too from the grapes? Thanks for helping me. Lois V & Ged M wrote: > > At 04:33 PM 09/13/2000 -0400, Lois wrote: > > >Hi all, > > I have noticed that when JJ eats grapes his behaviour gets bad. 2 days > >ago I gave JJ some grapes and yesterday JJ was a mess!! He had hit the > >teacher 2 times and cryed half the day. Anybody else ever expenrence > >this??? And anyone know why??? Thanks, Lois (JJsmom) > > grapes are banned in our household too. We follow the Dengate diet which > is low in salicyclates and amines. IIRC grapes are high in salicyclates - > you might want to look at what other foods are high in salicyclates and > consider reducing intake. Generally if they are reacting to one, they will > react to all. > > anna v > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 Hi Lois, Grapes have one of the highest level of sucrose, a natural sugar contained in most fruit. If JJ has an abdunance or an overgrowth of yeast this will trigger his negative behaviors. Remember what Dr. Goldberg always says that no tests are 100% con- clusive therefore if a child reacts negatively no matter what the tests reveal keep that food out of the child's diet. Perhaps he developed an allergy to grapes, which he may someday outgrow. Michele D. Have a nice day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 Also they spray alot of junk on them so sometimes It just might not be the grapes. kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 At 04:33 PM 09/13/2000 -0400, Lois wrote: >Hi all, > I have noticed that when JJ eats grapes his behaviour gets bad. 2 days >ago I gave JJ some grapes and yesterday JJ was a mess!! He had hit the >teacher 2 times and cryed half the day. Anybody else ever expenrence >this??? And anyone know why??? Thanks, Lois (JJsmom) grapes are banned in our household too. We follow the Dengate diet which is low in salicyclates and amines. IIRC grapes are high in salicyclates - you might want to look at what other foods are high in salicyclates and consider reducing intake. Generally if they are reacting to one, they will react to all. anna v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 Thanks for the info Michele. Yes, i think he is allergic. I am not going to give him anymore grapes for a long while!! Lois isoaa@... wrote: > > Hi Lois, > > Grapes have one of the highest level of sucrose, a natural sugar contained in > most fruit. If JJ has an abdunance or an overgrowth of yeast this will > trigger his negative behaviors. Remember what Dr. Goldberg always says that > no tests are 100% con- clusive therefore if a child reacts negatively no > matter what the tests reveal keep that food out of the child's diet. Perhaps > he developed an allergy to grapes, which he may someday outgrow. > > Michele D. > > Have a nice day. > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 , that is so true!!! I wonder what that is that they spray on them? Anyone know? Lois kc62765@... wrote: > > Also they spray alot of junk on them so sometimes It just might not be the > grapes. kelly > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 Muki, thanks so much for you info. I wonder what is in grapes to do this?? Lois muki@... wrote: > > Our son's response to grapes has been zoniness and shut down. We get the > grape response from grape juice as well, so I think in our case its the > grapes and not the spray. Either way we have not had grapes in our house > for more than a year. The other day in the supermarket he grabbed one and > we didn't see a response , however we are still avoiding them. > > Muki > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 Our son's response to grapes has been zoniness and shut down. We get the grape response from grape juice as well, so I think in our case its the grapes and not the spray. Either way we have not had grapes in our house for more than a year. The other day in the supermarket he grabbed one and we didn't see a response , however we are still avoiding them. Muki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 lois I was reading something about MSG and of course pesticides etc. . for whatever reason they would want to spray msg on them is beyond me. Its everywhere . Dodging too many bullets in toxic america. kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 MSG (monosodium glutamate) us a digestive enzyme - it's the stuff that " Accent " is made of. Anything that it's sprayed on ( although I've never heard that) would probably be done to improve the flavor. The way " Accent " works is that it starts partially digesting the food, like meat for example, hence making it more palatable to our taste buds. Remember the " Accent commercials, where they would tell you to sprinkle it on you food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 Lois - Fruits aren't really that great, especially for autistic kids. They're chock full of sugar and phenols, which some parents think their kids react to. Trying to get him interested in vegetables (yeah right) might be a good thing. Dr. Goldberg has us limit fruit to one serving per day because of the sugar content, and the fact that they fill up on fruit and don't want to eat other foods, namely protein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 Lois - I know what you mean about vegetables. We've recently initiated a bribery system that works with our little darling. Eat one bite of green bean (salted, of course), and you get one bite of cantalope, etc. At first we pretty much popped the bean in her mouth - she reacted like it was a dirty sock. Eventually, though, she got it and now will grudgingly eat 4-5 green beans, if she sees something tasty coming along - usually a little fruit, or tortellini - which she loves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 Lois - 12 year olds are tough, I have an NT daughter who is 12. Can you try bribery of a higher nature? Ketchup? Videos? It's hard, I know, because fruit tastes so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 , Yes, i guess I will stop giving JJ grapes. It was one of only 2 fruits I could get him to eat. What to do?? Lois kc62765@... wrote: > > lois > I was reading something about MSG and of course pesticides etc. . for > whatever reason they would want to spray msg on them is beyond me. Its > everywhere . Dodging too many bullets in toxic america. kelly > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 , Vegetables? what are they??haha!! JJ won't touch one Vegetable! he will eat some meat tho. hamburger, ham, bacon,fish. but thats about it. Lois nelsoneyes@... wrote: > > Lois - Fruits aren't really that great, especially for autistic kids. They're > chock full of sugar and phenols, which some parents think their kids react > to. Trying to get him interested in vegetables (yeah right) might be a good > thing. Dr. Goldberg has us limit fruit to one serving per day because of the > sugar content, and the fact that they fill up on fruit and don't want to eat > other foods, namely protein. > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 , What do you do with a 12 year old tho? He will have nothing to do with it. Lois nelsoneyes@... wrote: > > Lois - I know what you mean about vegetables. We've recently initiated a > bribery system that works with our little darling. Eat one bite of green bean > (salted, of course), and you get one bite of cantalope, etc. At first we > pretty much popped the bean in her mouth - she reacted like it was a dirty > sock. Eventually, though, she got it and now will grudgingly eat 4-5 green > beans, if she sees something tasty coming along - usually a little fruit, or > tortellini - which she loves. > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 IIRC grapes are high in salicyclates - What does IIRC mean? Lois V & Ged M wrote: > > At 04:33 PM 09/13/2000 -0400, Lois wrote: > > >Hi all, > > I have noticed that when JJ eats grapes his behaviour gets bad. 2 days > >ago I gave JJ some grapes and yesterday JJ was a mess!! He had hit the > >teacher 2 times and cryed half the day. Anybody else ever expenrence > >this??? And anyone know why??? Thanks, Lois (JJsmom) > > grapes are banned in our household too. We follow the Dengate diet which > is low in salicyclates and amines. IIRC grapes are high in salicyclates - > you might want to look at what other foods are high in salicyclates and > consider reducing intake. Generally if they are reacting to one, they will > react to all. > > anna v > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 The trouble is he pretty much gets what he wants when it is time to eat. What I mean is he gets his own plate, Drink etc....Lois nelsoneyes@... wrote: > > Lois - 12 year olds are tough, I have an NT daughter who is 12. Can you try > bribery of a higher nature? Ketchup? Videos? It's hard, I know, because fruit > tastes so good. > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 In a message dated 9/14/2000 7:45:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nelsoneyes@... writes: << MSG (monosodium glutamate) us a digestive enzyme - it's the stuff that " Accent " is made of. Anything that it's sprayed on ( although I've never heard that) would probably be done to improve the flavor. The way " Accent " works is that it starts partially digesting the food, like meat for example, hence making it more palatable to our taste buds. Remember the " Accent commercials, where they would tell you to sprinkle it on you food? >> MSG is particular;ly bad . Read the bood excitotoxins. It basically cause the nerves cells to fire until they die. thats bad. kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 If my child wants grapes I let him have them. He doesn't usually eat them. I try to buy the organic grapes or really rinse them good. I don't think every child has problems with the sames foods or is even in the same subset. kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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