Re: Our little group is COOL!

[Guest guest]

Z- That is SO awesome that you've found someone who cares about you

too! I think the worst part of this for me was going to doctors time

and time again and literally being treated like a piece of garbage

when I actually thought I was going to be healed.

It's so hard to describe how demeaning and crushing that was. ;(

I would spend the whole day praying after spending the whole night

NOT sleeping and then just when I thought I was about to be

healed.... Bam!

Nothing but dirty looks, insults, accusations of insanity and then of

course, a big fat bill.

I think mostly due to TV, I always had such good thoughts about

Western doctors before this and now, I wouldn't want one helping me

if I was laying on the side of the road dying and I do mean that.

I'm sure I couldn't afford the bill anyway...

(Am I bitter or what?)

Regarding Ayurvedic protocol- that is very cool that your doc lady

studied in India, people from other countries don't seem as

frightened to take on new things and they seem to know MUCH more

about these types of things than people trained here. I have become

fascinated with all this natural healing stuff and I can't believe

how little I actually know about it... What interests me most is what

the people here in the US (Native Americans, Mexicans) have been

using for millenia that comes right out of our own soil.

Once again, I know very little about this but I am going to focus on

knowing much more.

Isn't our little group cool Z? Yeah, we may be a bit corny and I

speak mostly for myself when I say that, BUT! We do care about one

another greatly and try to look out for and support one another at

every opportunity which is why I participate as much as possible. I

don't see a need to participate in any other groups as everything I

was looking for is right here. Ray, Mel, Tim, MM, Fritolay, Lucylu,

Sib, you and all the rest are so fun and awesome to interact with and

I really think we've done one another alot of good by being a part of

this. I pray that you get as much out of it as I have Zmooks and I'm

always looking forward to your positive, educational and informative

posts- thank you for helping.

Blessings, love and light-

som

>

>

> Thats great that your acupuncturist is from China, Som. And that

he

> feels confident in helping you.

>

> I went to my appointment yesterday as well, and talked with this

> lady I am seeing - I asked her if she thinks that all Naturopaths

> will be able to help with what we are dealing with - and she said

> she didnt think so. She said to be very picky. She said chances

> are if they have only studied and practised in the US (the west)

> that there understanding of this parasite/mite problem will be very

> limited.

> I think someone asked if she is an Avermenic (sorry if thats not

the

> correct word) and she did study hers in India.

>

> Sounds like she takes patience from all around the country, but she

> doesnt treat people from a distance they have to come to her. If

> anyone is close to Idaho let me know and I will write up her info.

> I really wish I could see Dr. from Healthwalk - thats so

> awesome Lucy, that you are able to see him.

>

> One more thing, has anyone else used products by ESP botanicals?

> I wanted to mention this company as I have been using there

products

> for about a month. And though we dont have lesions, my youngest

> daughter has had an odd rash the has persisted during these 5

> months, I am thinking that these products are what finally got rid

> of it. Trisha does claim to be able to cure morgellons lesions and

> other terrible skin manifestations -

> She seems really kind, and always adds free items, or larger items

> than what I ordered. I bet that she might even send samples if

> anyone wanted to see if her products would help them.

>

> I am interested in the machine (ozonator or something) that people

> are talking about, unfortunately like many of you I am all out of

> money....I think the heating cleared what ever this is from my

> environment anyway. I just wanted to mention one more thing that I

> am using called Eco Vie. (www.ecochem.com) its supposed to kill

> mold, fungi, bacteria, mites. Its very diluted and goes a long

way -

> I bath my girls in it. And spray it around my house. Its non

toxic.

>

>

> I am totally in agreement with Som and Sybil, we have had limited

or

> no success with chemicals (although I do still think windex works,

> but luckily heating was even better) And I also am in agreement

that

> changing our bodies chemistry will be our first line of offense

> against this. I remember the absolute WORST night of my life (when

> I was completely under siege) was the night after having my house

> fumigated, compared to how good we felt after heating. Mel why dont

> you dust off your heater and give it another whirl:)

>

> Hope I havent rambled here, I think this forum is very inspiring.

> Lucy is right, people on here are worried not just for themselves,

> but for each other. Through out this ordeal I have crossed paths

> with some of the finest people I will ever meet (Mel, Ray and

others)

>

> z

>

[Guest guest]

Som

Yes, It takes an experience like this to make you view things far

differently.

I mean its not just MD's, I dont even look at food in the grocery

stores the same way....or skin care products/makeup/air

fresheners/house cleaners....

I am going to be one green, enviro, ulternative, parent after all of

this....

I was told to go to a shrink by my doc as well - what a low day that

was.....I don't understand much about this different approach to

medicine, but like you, this experience has forced me to look

elsewhere - and I am so glad that traditional doctors would not help

my family, because a better avenue has emerged for us.

God bless

z

p.s. not to say that there are not wonderful good western doctors

out there, who actually want to learn how to help....to those on

this forum who have found such special people - you are fortunate!!

as I am sure you already realize

[Guest guest]

Lucylu- I know that you are on your way to wellness- as I said, Dr.

is a rare find and I think he takes getting you better as a

personal challenge which is what I used to think all doctors were

about. Boy, was I naive! You are in excellent hands LL and I am very

glad that Dr. has taken you on as a patient.

He will do whatever it takes I think.

Did you ask him about cleansing yet? Just curious.

Blessings-

Som

> > >

> > >

> > > Thats great that your acupuncturist is from China,

> > Som. And that

> > he

> > > feels confident in helping you.

> > >

> > > I went to my appointment yesterday as well, and

> > talked with this

> > > lady I am seeing - I asked her if she thinks that

> > all Naturopaths

> > > will be able to help with what we are dealing with

> > - and she said

> > > she didnt think so. She said to be very picky.

> > She said chances

> > > are if they have only studied and practised in the

> > US (the west)

> > > that there understanding of this parasite/mite

> > problem will be very

> > > limited.

> > > I think someone asked if she is an Avermenic

> > (sorry if thats not

> > the

> > > correct word) and she did study hers in India.

> > >

> > > Sounds like she takes patience from all around the

> > country, but she

> > > doesnt treat people from a distance they have to

> > come to her. If

> > > anyone is close to Idaho let me know and I will

> > write up her info.

> > > I really wish I could see Dr. from

> > Healthwalk - thats so

> > > awesome Lucy, that you are able to see him.

> > >

> > > One more thing, has anyone else used products by

> > ESP botanicals?

> > > I wanted to mention this company as I have been

> > using there

> > products

> > > for about a month. And though we dont have

> > lesions, my youngest

> > > daughter has had an odd rash the has persisted

> > during these 5

> > > months, I am thinking that these products are what

> > finally got rid

> > > of it. Trisha does claim to be able to cure

> > morgellons lesions and

> > > other terrible skin manifestations -

> > > She seems really kind, and always adds free items,

> > or larger items

> > > than what I ordered. I bet that she might even

> > send samples if

> > > anyone wanted to see if her products would help

> > them.

> > >

> > > I am interested in the machine (ozonator or

> > something) that people

> > > are talking about, unfortunately like many of you

> > I am all out of

> > > money....I think the heating cleared what ever

> > this is from my

> > > environment anyway. I just wanted to mention one

> > more thing that I

> > > am using called Eco Vie. (www.ecochem.com) its

> > supposed to kill

> > > mold, fungi, bacteria, mites. Its very diluted

> > and goes a long

> > way -

> > > I bath my girls in it. And spray it around my

> > house. Its non

> > toxic.

> > >

> > >

> > > I am totally in agreement with Som and Sybil, we

> > have had limited

> > or

> > > no success with chemicals (although I do still

> > think windex works,

> > > but luckily heating was even better) And I also am

> > in agreement

> > that

> > > changing our bodies chemistry will be our first

> > line of offense

> > > against this. I remember the absolute WORST night

> > of my life (when

> > > I was completely under siege) was the night after

> > having my house

> > > fumigated, compared to how good we felt after

> > heating. Mel why dont

> > > you dust off your heater and give it another

> > whirl:)

> > >

> > > Hope I havent rambled here, I think this forum is

> > very inspiring.

> > > Lucy is right, people on here are worried not just

> > for themselves,

> > > but for each other. Through out this ordeal I

> > have crossed paths

> > > with some of the finest people I will ever meet

> > (Mel, Ray and

> > others)

> > >

> > > z

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

WHAT ABOUT CLEANSING??? I'm curious about what he thinks.

som

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thats great that your acupuncturist is from

> > China,

> > > > Som. And that

> > > > he

> > > > > feels confident in helping you.

> > > > >

> > > > > I went to my appointment yesterday as well,

> > and

> > > > talked with this

> > > > > lady I am seeing - I asked her if she thinks

> > that

> > > > all Naturopaths

> > > > > will be able to help with what we are dealing

> > with

> > > > - and she said

> > > > > she didnt think so. She said to be very

> > picky.

> > > > She said chances

> > > > > are if they have only studied and practised in

> > the

> > > > US (the west)

> > > > > that there understanding of this parasite/mite

> > > > problem will be very

> > > > > limited.

> > > > > I think someone asked if she is an Avermenic

> > > > (sorry if thats not

> > > > the

> > > > > correct word) and she did study hers in India.

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sounds like she takes patience from all around

> > the

> > > > country, but she

> > > > > doesnt treat people from a distance they have

> > to

> > > > come to her. If

> > > > > anyone is close to Idaho let me know and I

> > will

> > > > write up her info.

> > > > > I really wish I could see Dr. from

> > > > Healthwalk - thats so

> > > > > awesome Lucy, that you are able to see him.

> > > > >

> > > > > One more thing, has anyone else used products

> > by

> > > > ESP botanicals?

> > > > > I wanted to mention this company as I have

> > been

> > > > using there

> > > > products

> >

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>

>

>

>

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LL- I understand, just curious.

som

> > > > >

> > > > > > Z- That is SO awesome that you've found

> > someone

> > > > who

> > > > > > cares about you

> > > > > > too! I think the worst part of this for me

> > was

> > > > going

> > > > > > to doctors time

> > > > > > and time again and literally being treated

> > like

> > > > a

> > > > > > piece of garbage

> > > > > > when I actually thought I was going to be

> > > > healed.

> > > > > > It's so hard to describe how demeaning and

> > > > crushing

> > > > > > that was. ;(

> > > > > > I would spend the whole day praying after

> > > > spending

> > > > > > the whole night

> > > > > > NOT sleeping and then just when I thought I

> > was

> > > > > > about to be

> > > > > > healed.... Bam!

> > > > > > Nothing but dirty looks, insults,

> > accusations of

> > > > > > insanity and then of

> > > > > > course, a big fat bill.

> > > > > > I think mostly due to TV, I always had such

> > good

> > > > > > thoughts about

> > > > > > Western doctors before this and now, I

> > wouldn't

> > > > want

> > > > > > one helping me

> > > > > > if I was laying on the side of the road

> > dying

> > > > and I

> > > > > > do mean that.

> > > > > > I'm sure I couldn't afford the bill

> > anyway...

> > > > > > (Am I bitter or what?)

> > > > > > Regarding Ayurvedic protocol- that is very

> > cool

> > > > that

> > > > > > your doc lady

> > > > > > studied in India, people from other

> > countries

> > > > don't

> > > > > > seem as

> > > > > > frightened to take on new things and they

> > seem

> > > > to

> > > > > > know MUCH more

> > > > > > about these types of things than people

> > trained

> > > > > > here. I have become

> > > > > > fascinated with all this natural healing

> > stuff

> > > > and I

> > > > > > can't believe

> > > > > > how little I actually know about it... What

> > > > > > interests me most is what

> > > > > > the people here in the US (Native Americans,

> > > > > > Mexicans) have been

> > > > > > using for millenia that comes right out of

> > our

> > > > own

> > > > > > soil.

> > > > > > Once again, I know very little about this

> > but I

> > > > am

> > > > > > going to focus on

> > > > > > knowing much more.

> > > > > > Isn't our little group cool Z? Yeah, we may

> > be a

> > > > bit

> > > > > > corny and I

> > > > > > speak mostly for myself when I say that,

> > BUT! We

> > > > do

> > > > > > care about one

> > > > > > another greatly and try to look out for and

> > > > support

> > > > > > one another at

> > > > > > every opportunity which is why I participate

> > as

> > > > much

> > > > > > as possible. I

> > > > > > don't see a need to participate in any other

> > > > groups

> > > > > > as everything I

> > > > > > was looking for is right here. Ray, Mel,

> > Tim,

> > > > MM,

> > > > > > Fritolay, Lucylu,

> > > > > > Sib, you and all the rest are so fun and

> > awesome

> > > > to

> > > > > > interact with and

> > > > > > I really think we've done one another alot

> > of

> > > > good

> > > > > > by being a part of

> > > > > > this. I pray that you get as much out of it

> > as I

> > > > > > have Zmooks and I'm

> > > > > > always looking forward to your positive,

> > > > educational

> > > > > > and informative

> > > > > > posts- thank you for helping.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessings, love and light-

> >

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>

>

>

>

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Lucylu

So glad to hear that you had some success with the silver as a cream.

I might try that one too.

Cant wait to hear how you go with the generator. From what I have

read it sounds very promising.

z