Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 I am due with my fourth child next April. I live in California and am wondering if the hospital can give you any legal trouble for deciding against the vitamin K shot. I gave it to my last three not aware that it could be harmful. Thanks for any info. I just dont want Child services on my back since we homeschool, dont vax, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 At 04:32 PM 9/24/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I am due with my fourth child next April. I live in California and am >wondering if the hospital can give you any legal trouble for deciding >against the vitamin K shot. I gave it to my last three not aware that it >could be harmful. > >Thanks for any info. I just dont want Child services on my back since we >homeschool, dont vax, etc. > > Understood ! This is not a hospital issue, but a pediatrician. You must approach your pediatrician with you concerns. Research this and make yourself knowledgeable so that you can answer him intelligently. Listen to his concerns, but stand firm if that is what you choose to do. We had absolutely no problem, just a waiver to sign. We were surprised especially having never met our pediatrician til the day before the birth. I shared with my doctor the concerns and he acted as if this was no biggy. I asked him to suggest whom I might use as a pediatrician and he responded that he couldn't do that. So having one in mind I asked, do you think Dr. so-in-so would give me a problem and he said, no I do not think so, and he didn't. It was that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Perhaps, but usually the first thing they want you to do when you get to the hospital is sign a blanket statement approving whatever they deem necessary. You can refuse any treatment at a California hospital. Of Course, a hospital can ask you to leave if they feel there would be a negative legal impact because of your decision. A doctor can not force any treatment, either, usually a waiver is all that's needed. We chose to have the Vit K shot... but waited for a few hours after the birth, we also declined the erythromycin in the eyes because we did not have the risk factors involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 What made you decide to go ahead and get the shot? We also opted for the Vit K shot, but waited a couple of hours. Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 She probably did it on purpose so you would not get harassed. I did opt for the eye gel (no Vitamin K) and the physician I interviewed told me to my surprise that I would get a bigger fight from 'public health' (they have to forward this stuff to the state) for skipping eye crap than the shot. > > >I am due with my fourth child next April. I live in California > and am > > >wondering if the hospital can give you any legal trouble for > deciding > > >against the vitamin K shot. I gave it to my last three not aware > that it > > >could be harmful. > > > > > >Thanks for any info. I just dont want Child services on my back > since we > > >homeschool, dont vax, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Understood ! > > > > This is not a hospital issue, but a pediatrician. You must > approach your > > pediatrician with you concerns. Research this and make yourself > > knowledgeable so that you can answer him intelligently. Listen to > his > > concerns, but stand firm if that is what you choose to do. > > > > We had absolutely no problem, just a waiver to sign. We were > surprised > > especially having never met our pediatrician til the day before > the > > birth. I shared with my doctor the concerns and he acted as if > this was no > > biggy. I asked him to suggest whom I might use as a pediatrician > and he > > responded that he couldn't do that. So having one in mind I asked, > do you > > think Dr. so-in-so would give me a problem and he said, no I do > not think > > so, and he didn't. It was that simple. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Lack of knowledge. Had no idea it could be trouble. She's was called jaundiced, but not severely. From what I'm hearing, all babies are identified as at least a little jaundiced at birth. This isn't fact, just anecdotal. No treatment was necessary for Lil. Elaine Re: Re: Vit K Question What made you decide to go ahead and get the shot? We also opted for the Vit K shot, but waited a couple of hours. Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I just don't get it. If you don't have the risk factors, what's the point of the eye gel? Can someone help me understand the reasoning? Re: Vit K Question She probably did it on purpose so you would not get harassed. I did opt for the eye gel (no Vitamin K) and the physician I interviewed told me to my surprise that I would get a bigger fight from 'public health' (they have to forward this stuff to the state) for skipping eye crap than the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I am going out on a limb here and guessing that part of the reason is that when it was started there was a lot of syphilis out there. Also that " extramarital affairs " are often not known about by the mother. Doctors don't want to " profile " people to say " hey you look like your husband fools around and may have given you syphilis and you over there look like a monogamous couple " . That said, I really believe that parents should have all the facts and the ability to choose what happens to their babies and not be " railroaded " by the medical establishment to think that they are " bad " parents if they don't submit to these things or that child welfare agencies should be involved in any way unless there is other tangible evidence of abuse. I would think that most abusive prone parents would not even think twice about asking why doctors do erythromycin or Vit K shots. My question, would the eye ointment protect against other germs or is it specifically for syphilis? Sally Elaine Gingery wrote: > I just don't get it. If you don't have the risk factors, what's the > point of the eye gel? Can someone help me understand the reasoning? > Re: Vit K Question > > > She probably did it on purpose so you would not get harassed. I did > opt for the eye gel (no Vitamin K) and the physician I interviewed > told me to my surprise that I would get a bigger fight from 'public > health' (they have to forward this stuff to the state) for skipping > eye crap than the shot. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Is anyone from VA that opted out of the eye ointment or shot? I think I want to opt out of the eye goup but still need to research the Vitamin K. Thanks,Bambi Re: Vit K Question She probably did it on purpose so you would not get harassed. I did opt for the eye gel (no Vitamin K) and the physician I interviewed told me to my surprise that I would get a bigger fight from 'public health' (they have to forward this stuff to the state) for skipping eye crap than the shot. > > >I am due with my fourth child next April. I live in California > and am > > >wondering if the hospital can give you any legal trouble for > deciding > > >against the vitamin K shot. I gave it to my last three not aware > that it > > >could be harmful. > > > > > >Thanks for any info. I just dont want Child services on my back > since we > > >homeschool, dont vax, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Understood ! > > > > This is not a hospital issue, but a pediatrician. You must > approach your > > pediatrician with you concerns. Research this and make yourself > > knowledgeable so that you can answer him intelligently. Listen to > his > > concerns, but stand firm if that is what you choose to do. > > > > We had absolutely no problem, just a waiver to sign. We were > surprised > > especially having never met our pediatrician til the day before > the > > birth. I shared with my doctor the concerns and he acted as if > this was no > > biggy. I asked him to suggest whom I might use as a pediatrician > and he > > responded that he couldn't do that. So having one in mind I asked, > do you > > think Dr. so-in-so would give me a problem and he said, no I do > not think > > so, and he didn't. It was that simple. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I was told it was not just for Gonorrea (forgive spelling) - that it was a mild abx in case there was any 'bad' bacteria in the birth process (some newborns get conjuctivitis). The nurse left it for me (after doing one application) and told me if she got any redness I was more than welcome to put it in her eyes, or better yet, squirt breastmilk into them. I am most certainly not justifying it, but IF anybody is going to do it, one of the things they often neglect to tell you is that you can delay it by several hours - giving you that bonding time and doing it when the baby falls asleep. > I just don't get it. If you don't have the risk factors, what's the point of the eye gel? Can someone help me understand the reasoning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 We had originally chosen to delay, just as you suggested below, but then changed our mind and chose to not do it at all. If it was just a worry over pink eye, then I'd definitely waive it as breast milk really is a better choice to treat conjunctivitis. Elaine mom to Lily (6.22.03) www.OneHappyFamily.com Re: Vit K Question I was told it was not just for Gonorrea (forgive spelling) - that it was a mild abx in case there was any 'bad' bacteria in the birth process (some newborns get conjuctivitis). The nurse left it for me (after doing one application) and told me if she got any redness I was more than welcome to put it in her eyes, or better yet, squirt breastmilk into them. I am most certainly not justifying it, but IF anybody is going to do it, one of the things they often neglect to tell you is that you can delay it by several hours - giving you that bonding time and doing it when the baby falls asleep. > I just don't get it. If you don't have the risk factors, what's the point of the eye gel? Can someone help me understand the reasoning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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