Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 No one has proven that oxybenzone causes adverse effects in humans, but why put it on your child and risk causing problems when natural alternatives are readily available at your local health food store? Remember children are much more susceptible to toxic effects of chemicals than adults. Randall Neustaedter OMD, LAc Classical Medicine Center 1779 Woodside Rd #201C Redwood City, CA 94061 650 299-9170 Subscribe to my free email newsletter by clicking on this link www.cure-guide.com Author of The Vaccine Guide, North Atlantic Books OT: Sunscreen Question > After reading Dr. Neustaedter's newsletter I checked my son's > suncreen and found that one of the active ingredients is Oxybenzone. > Can someone please tell me why I should be avoiding it? I have been > using Coppertone's Water Babies Spectra 3 brand. It has Zinc Oxide, > so I thought I had picked a good brand. Should I stop using it? > > Thanks, > > Loraine > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Sunscreen is a pet peeve of mine. I hate putting it on, and it seems so unnatural. I use Aubrey Organics' facial spray (10 SPF.) My kids usually wear the UV suits that cover most of their arms/legs so that I just need to do the areas that aren't covered. Here's why I am so grumpy about it, and I'd love to know more if there are good studies that fill the logical gaps for me! They have studied the effects of sunburn on skin cancer, so, sunburn => skin cancer, and they have studied the effects of sunscreen on sunburns, so sunscreen prevents sunburn, but that does not necessarily mean that sunscreen is protective against skin cancer. In my opinion, this still needs study! Some of the sunscreen products might themselves cause cancer because of toxic ingredients? Also, if you wear sunscreen constantly and then forget or miss a spot *once*, you are sure to get a burn, but if you are just normally out in the sun without it, you will probably have a tan but not burn easily. Which is worse? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 I recommend that people get some tan, which is protective, from sun exposure, which also ensures adequate vitamin D, but avoid burning by use of natural sunscreens (zinc oxide and titanium dioxide), which cause no health problems, covering up, or otherwise avoiding the strongest midday sun. My personal favorite sunscreen is Lavera waterproof lotion, because it is completely organic. Randall Neustaedter OMD, LAc Classical Medicine Center 1779 Woodside Rd., Suite 201C Redwood City, CA 94061 650 299-9170 Subscribe to my free email newsletter at www.cure-guide.com RE: OT: Sunscreen Question > Sunscreen is a pet peeve of mine. I hate putting it on, and it seems so > unnatural. I use > Aubrey Organics' facial spray (10 SPF.) My kids usually wear the UV suits > that cover > most of their arms/legs so that I just need to do the areas that aren't > covered. > > Here's why I am so grumpy about it, and I'd love to know more if there are > good studies > that fill the logical gaps for me! > > They have studied the effects of sunburn on skin cancer, so, sunburn => skin > cancer, > and they have studied the effects of sunscreen on sunburns, so sunscreen > prevents > sunburn, but that does not necessarily mean that sunscreen is protective > against > skin cancer. In my opinion, this still needs study! Some of the sunscreen > products > might themselves cause cancer because of toxic ingredients? > > Also, if you wear sunscreen constantly and then forget or miss a spot > *once*, you > are sure to get a burn, but if you are just normally out in the sun without > it, you will > probably have a tan but not burn easily. Which is worse? > > - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 My dd makes life easy on this score - she won't have it on her! My own personal feelings are that sunscreens are an invitation to fry because they instil a false sense of security on how long you can safely stay outside. It is important to get that sunlight into our bodies to make Vitamin D, and I feel that if I just pay attention to how long we've been in the sun, listen to my body, go inside for regular breaks or if I feel overhot and not wait to develop sunburn, and cover the most easily burned areas with a t-shirt, I'm fine. I firmly believe the chemicals in sunscreens are far more dangerous than common sense exposure to the sun. Last I heard from What Doctors Don't Tell You, an article on toxic toiletries said the jury's out on whether titanium dioxide is a possible carcinogen and most sunscreens have that in them. Love, light and peace, Sue " The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears " - Minquass proverb > RE: OT: Sunscreen Question > > > Sunscreen is a pet peeve of mine. I hate putting it on, and it seems so > unnatural. I use > Aubrey Organics' facial spray (10 SPF.) My kids usually wear the UV suits > that cover > most of their arms/legs so that I just need to do the areas that aren't > covered. > > Here's why I am so grumpy about it, and I'd love to know more if there are > good studies > that fill the logical gaps for me! > > They have studied the effects of sunburn on skin cancer, so, > sunburn => skin > cancer, > and they have studied the effects of sunscreen on sunburns, so sunscreen > prevents > sunburn, but that does not necessarily mean that sunscreen is protective > against > skin cancer. In my opinion, this still needs study! Some of the sunscreen > products > might themselves cause cancer because of toxic ingredients? > > Also, if you wear sunscreen constantly and then forget or miss a spot > *once*, you > are sure to get a burn, but if you are just normally out in the > sun without > it, you will > probably have a tan but not burn easily. Which is worse? > > - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Titanium dioxide is not toxic according to EPA: A. Toxicological Profile Titanium is the eighth most abundant element in the earth's crust and consequently spontaneously enters the food chain to some degree. Titanium dioxide (TiO2) is a major constituent of a number of minerals, including rutile, which consists of 95% titanium dioxide. The most commercially important of the titanium compounds, titanium dioxide annual worldwide production is estimated to be appoximately two million metric tons. Titanium dioxide is an opaque powder that is approved for use as a colorant in food (21 CFR 73.575), in drugs (21 CFR 73.1575), and in cosmetics (21 CFR 73.2575; 21 CFR 73.3126). It has an extensive range of industrial uses (e.g., paint, paper, and plastics). Titanium dioxide is currently exempt from the requirement for a tolerance when used as a colorant in pesticide formulations (40 CFR 180.1001(d)). A National Cancer Institute bioassay concluded that titanium dioxide did not affect mortality, and was not carcinogenic at dose levels of 25,000 or 50,000 ppm in rats or mice. The World Health Organization Committee on Food Coloring Materials has determined that no ADI need be set for the use of titanium dioxide based on the range of acute, subacute and chronic toxicity assays, all showing low mammalian toxicity, including a two year chronic feeding study in mice which was negative for carcinogenicity. Indeed, titanium dioxide is frequently used as a negative control material in in vivo chronic dust exposure studies and in in vivo assessments of fibrogenic potential of dusts. Randall Neustaedter OMD, LAc Classical Medicine Center 1779 Woodside Rd #201C Redwood City, CA 94061 650 299-9170 Subscribe to my free email newsletter by clicking on this link www.cure-guide.com Author of The Vaccine Guide, North Atlantic Books RE: OT: Sunscreen Question > > > > > > Sunscreen is a pet peeve of mine. I hate putting it on, and it seems so > > unnatural. I use > > Aubrey Organics' facial spray (10 SPF.) My kids usually wear the UV suits > > that cover > > most of their arms/legs so that I just need to do the areas that aren't > > covered. > > > > Here's why I am so grumpy about it, and I'd love to know more if there are > > good studies > > that fill the logical gaps for me! > > > > They have studied the effects of sunburn on skin cancer, so, > > sunburn => skin > > cancer, > > and they have studied the effects of sunscreen on sunburns, so sunscreen > > prevents > > sunburn, but that does not necessarily mean that sunscreen is protective > > against > > skin cancer. In my opinion, this still needs study! Some of the sunscreen > > products > > might themselves cause cancer because of toxic ingredients? > > > > Also, if you wear sunscreen constantly and then forget or miss a spot > > *once*, you > > are sure to get a burn, but if you are just normally out in the > > sun without > > it, you will > > probably have a tan but not burn easily. Which is worse? > > > > - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2003 Report Share Posted July 12, 2003 How recently was this profile published, Dr Neustaedter? Whilst I have the utmost respect for you and your knowledge, I don't have that much for the WHO or EPA. After all, the WHO tells us that vaccinations are safe! I do note, however, that you do not state that this is your personal opinion. The article from WDDTY was published about six months ago, iirc. I will wander off and check the references and post back. It was not definitely cited as being carcinogenic - just open to question at that time. Love, light and peace, Sue " The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears " - Minquass proverb > Re: OT: Sunscreen Question > > > Titanium dioxide is not toxic according to EPA: > > A. Toxicological Profile > > Titanium is the eighth most abundant element in the earth's crust > and consequently spontaneously enters the food chain to some degree. > Titanium dioxide (TiO2) is a major constituent of a number of minerals, > including rutile, which consists of 95% titanium dioxide. The most > commercially important of the titanium compounds, titanium dioxide > annual worldwide production is estimated to be appoximately two million > metric tons. Titanium dioxide is an opaque powder that is approved for > use as a colorant in food (21 CFR 73.575), in drugs (21 CFR 73.1575), > and in cosmetics (21 CFR 73.2575; 21 CFR 73.3126). It has an extensive > range of industrial uses (e.g., paint, paper, and plastics). Titanium > dioxide is currently exempt from the requirement for a tolerance when > used as a colorant in pesticide formulations (40 CFR 180.1001(d)). > A National Cancer Institute bioassay concluded that titanium > dioxide did not affect mortality, and was not carcinogenic at dose > levels of 25,000 or 50,000 ppm in rats or mice. > The World Health Organization Committee on Food Coloring Materials > has determined that no ADI need be set for the use of titanium dioxide > based on the range of acute, subacute and chronic toxicity assays, all > showing low mammalian toxicity, including a two year chronic feeding > study in mice which was negative for carcinogenicity. Indeed, titanium > dioxide is frequently used as a negative control material in in vivo > chronic dust exposure studies and in in vivo assessments of fibrogenic > potential of dusts. > > Randall Neustaedter OMD, LAc > Classical Medicine Center > 1779 Woodside Rd #201C > Redwood City, CA 94061 > 650 299-9170 > > Subscribe to my free email newsletter > by clicking on this link www.cure-guide.com > > Author of The Vaccine Guide, North Atlantic Books > RE: OT: Sunscreen Question > > > > > > > > > Sunscreen is a pet peeve of mine. I hate putting it on, and > it seems so > > > unnatural. I use > > > Aubrey Organics' facial spray (10 SPF.) My kids usually wear the UV > suits > > > that cover > > > most of their arms/legs so that I just need to do the areas > that aren't > > > covered. > > > > > > Here's why I am so grumpy about it, and I'd love to know more if there > are > > > good studies > > > that fill the logical gaps for me! > > > > > > They have studied the effects of sunburn on skin cancer, so, > > > sunburn => skin > > > cancer, > > > and they have studied the effects of sunscreen on sunburns, > so sunscreen > > > prevents > > > sunburn, but that does not necessarily mean that sunscreen is > protective > > > against > > > skin cancer. In my opinion, this still needs study! Some of the > sunscreen > > > products > > > might themselves cause cancer because of toxic ingredients? > > > > > > Also, if you wear sunscreen constantly and then forget or miss a spot > > > *once*, you > > > are sure to get a burn, but if you are just normally out in the > > > sun without > > > it, you will > > > probably have a tan but not burn easily. Which is worse? > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 Please let me (and all of us) know what you find out about toxicology issues re sunscreens. I do have utmost faith in the FDA (just kidding). I have discovered in the past that intervientions we assumed were safe in the past (e.g. TB tests) turned out to have serious adverse effects. Randall Neustaedter OMD, LAc Classical Medicine Center 1779 Woodside Rd., Suite 201C Redwood City, CA 94061 650 299-9170 Subscribe to my free email newsletter at www.cure-guide.com RE: OT: Sunscreen Question > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunscreen is a pet peeve of mine. I hate putting it on, and > > it seems so > > > > unnatural. I use > > > > Aubrey Organics' facial spray (10 SPF.) My kids usually wear the UV > > suits > > > > that cover > > > > most of their arms/legs so that I just need to do the areas > > that aren't > > > > covered. > > > > > > > > Here's why I am so grumpy about it, and I'd love to know more if there > > are > > > > good studies > > > > that fill the logical gaps for me! > > > > > > > > They have studied the effects of sunburn on skin cancer, so, > > > > sunburn => skin > > > > cancer, > > > > and they have studied the effects of sunscreen on sunburns, > > so sunscreen > > > > prevents > > > > sunburn, but that does not necessarily mean that sunscreen is > > protective > > > > against > > > > skin cancer. In my opinion, this still needs study! Some of the > > sunscreen > > > > products > > > > might themselves cause cancer because of toxic ingredients? > > > > > > > > Also, if you wear sunscreen constantly and then forget or miss a spot > > > > *once*, you > > > > are sure to get a burn, but if you are just normally out in the > > > > sun without > > > > it, you will > > > > probably have a tan but not burn easily. Which is worse? > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 TB skin tests? Have not heard about this. Is this info on your website? RE: OT: Sunscreen Question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunscreen is a pet peeve of mine. I hate putting it on, and > > > it seems so > > > > > unnatural. I use > > > > > Aubrey Organics' facial spray (10 SPF.) My kids usually wear the UV > > > suits > > > > > that cover > > > > > most of their arms/legs so that I just need to do the areas > > > that aren't > > > > > covered. > > > > > > > > > > Here's why I am so grumpy about it, and I'd love to know more if > there > > > are > > > > > good studies > > > > > that fill the logical gaps for me! > > > > > > > > > > They have studied the effects of sunburn on skin cancer, so, > > > > > sunburn => skin > > > > > cancer, > > > > > and they have studied the effects of sunscreen on sunburns, > > > so sunscreen > > > > > prevents > > > > > sunburn, but that does not necessarily mean that sunscreen is > > > protective > > > > > against > > > > > skin cancer. In my opinion, this still needs study! Some of the > > > sunscreen > > > > > products > > > > > might themselves cause cancer because of toxic ingredients? > > > > > > > > > > Also, if you wear sunscreen constantly and then forget or miss a > spot > > > > > *once*, you > > > > > are sure to get a burn, but if you are just normally out in the > > > > > sun without > > > > > it, you will > > > > > probably have a tan but not burn easily. Which is worse? > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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