Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Posted June 5, 2006 a, First of all, let me suggest that you look at your inbox from April of 2004. You may recall that you asked me this question previously and I answered. Other than that, I feel that I don't owe you or anyone else here any explanations. Beach > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > Let me try to make my point again. > > > > > > > > > > 1. The NCF used DeMeirleir's research on Stat 1 and his > patent > > > > > information which is public domain knowledge, but did not > give > > > him > > > > > any credit - no footnoted link to his studies. > > > > > > > > > > 2. The NCF funded research on a virus which may or may not > have > > > much > > > > > to do with causing cfs. > > > > > > > > > > 3. DeMeirleir, who is arguably the foremost researcher along > with > > > > > Suhadolnik and Englebienne on this whole question, has not > > > indicated > > > > > that he feels a virus is the responsible infection for the > > > downstream > > > > > destruction of RNaseL or stat 1. Indeed, he gives at least > equal > > > > > responsibility to both viruses and bacteria. MY QUESTION ALL > > > ALONG > > > > > HAS BEEN WHY DOESN'T THE NCF LOCATED IN THE HEART OF LYME > COUNTRY > > > > > FUND RESEARCH INTO BACTERIAL INFECTIONS THAT COULD DAMAGE THE > > > RNASEL > > > > > PATHWAY? Please note that patients with borrelia often are > also > > > > > carrying mycoplasma mentioned by DeMeirleir as affecting > RNaseL > > > and > > > > > stat 1. > > > > > > > > > > Cort doesn't go deeply into stat 1 since this was not > > > covered > > > > > in depth in DeMeirleir's book. DeMeirleir does mention > repeatedly > > > > > that the virus infections found in cfs may be opportunistic > and > > > that > > > > > bacteria such as mycoplasma can alter the RNaseL pathway. > Also, > > > in > > > > > DeMeirleir's treatment protocol he used both Ampligen and > > > antibiotics > > > > > alternating each 4 months at a time. I don't think he uses > > > Ampligen > > > > > at all anymore, probably because it causes further > degradation of > > > > > stat 1 - again this LOOKS LIKE a virus is not the cause > according > > > to > > > > > DeMeirleir as Ampligen is used to treat viral infections. > > > Hemespherix > > > > > has started researching the use of Ampligen for AIDS after > all. > > > > > > > > > > Here is another quote from Cort's summary just to make the > point > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.phoenix-cfs.org/The%20SITE/CFSABAVI.htm > > > > > > > > > > " Another possible factor in the apoptotic disregulation seen > is > > > the > > > > > high number of opportunistic infections CFS patients have. > > > Viruses, > > > > > chlamydia and mycoplasma are all able to inhibit apoptosis. > (We > > > will > > > > > see later that mycoplasmas also appear to be able to fragment > > > RNase > > > > > L. Opportunistic infections can also aggravate the > pathogenic > > > > > process in CFS by disrupting metabolic pathways and cytokine > > > > > production. G-actin cleavage undoubtedly negatively effects > > > antigen > > > > > presentation and phagocytosis. " > > > > > > > > > > a Carnes > > > > > > > > > > > > ***This link has no mention or reference to STAT-1 so does > > > nothing > > > > > to answer the question. In fact, Cort's > > > > > > entire summary of DeMeirleir's book at the phoenix-cfs.org > site > > > is > > > > > fairly thin on STAT-1 commentary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***It is a summary, so perhaps that explains it. > Nevertheless, > > > the > > > > > STAT-1 question I ask regarding its plausible depletion as a > > > result > > > > > of upstream ATP production problems in PWCs, before and more > than > > > > > what PIV-5 virus exposure might do, remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Posted June 5, 2006 Of course there are legitimate reasons for using a different name. But there are also not-so-legitimate reasons. If people have been asking over time there must be reasons why they are suspicious (and most do not keep insignificant posts from 2 years ago). We are well aware that there are those who make people up or use fake ids to support their position or pretend to support their organizations. Most pick up on writing styles, phrases, lots of exclamation points. In many instances it is rather obvious who people really are - and why they invent fake identities. Jill __________________________ Message: 5 Date: Mon Jun 5, 2006 5:00 am (PDT) From: " beachlover1957 " beachlover1957@... Subject: Re: Infections/NCF?/a/Beach? a, First of all, let me suggest that you look at your inbox from April of 2004. You may recall that you asked me this question previously and I answered. Other than that, I feel that I don't owe you or anyone else here any explanations. Beach >> >>> Beach, running tests on blood is not the same as testing lymph node >>> biopsies. I sat in the room when Dr. Bell spoke with quiet rage over the >>> total ignoring of those kids' biopsies. I also asked at the CDC about the >>> use of those biopsies. I was told in front of many people in the meeting >>> room that " they were probably in a refrigerator somewhere and that they >>> should be tested someday. " This was 1998, years after Bell sent them to >>> Atlanta. Quote
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