Xymogen IgG 2000DF- possible oral replacement for gamma globulin?

[Guest guest]

I recall someone posting a comment re oral gamma globulin and thought I

should post my experience with a relatively scarce product which, for me, has

blown away any other immune booster on the market. It is called Xymogen IgG

2000DF. Please bear in mind that I am not trying to market the stuff nor do I

hold stock in the company that makes or distributes it. The purpose of this is

to spread the word because I'm ecstatic that something seems to have finally

worked for me out of the myriad of immune supplements I've tried over several

years that have either failed or have performed marginally. Perhaps it will

work for others with even more serious history than myself which would really

make it above all else.

For one, Xymogen is non-dairy and much higher in immunoglobulins, IGF-1, and

transferrin than any whey in existence. I use it in conjunction with all my

other boosters, including the TF+ Advanced Formula. The Xymogen is the same

product as Immunolin, just re-packaged and marketed under the Xymogen brand.

It is basically a bovine-derived serum concentrate; kind of like ingesting

a powdered form of gamma globulin or IVIG ( IV gamma) which is given usually

only to those with proven cases of PID (primary immune deficiency, but not

HIV) such as those with the " Boy in the Plastic Bubble " syndrome. I do not

qualify for PID because I have normal total IgA, but have what I would say is a

subclinical form of immune deficiency (as many do who don't even realize it)

and specifically, through the dozens and dozens of tests over the last 5

years, discovered that, along with subpar cell-mediated immunity (low NK cell

activity and T-cells), I exhibit a sub-normal level of one or more of the IgG

subclasses, part of the humoral immunity which is a critical line of defense

against exogenous pathogens like cold viruses. Technically, I would be

labeled as having a IgG subclass deficiency.

I do my own " proprietary " mix of Xymo (3 tblspns) with ImmunePro Rx (1

tbspn), one of the best wheys on the market, GlutImmune (1 tbspn - the best

form

of glutamine I'm aware of) and ElectroMix, an electrolyte mix which, when it

goes into solution, produces a very pleasant effervescent drink that

facilitates easy dispersion and provides the necessary electrolytes that, when

combined with the native proteins, creates a superior transport mechanism for

the

aminos and minerals alike. All I can say is that anyone with immune issues of

any kind should at least try Xymo. It is also a superior source of complete

protein and " way " beyond whey...and a lot less hassle, expense, and risk

than doing gamma globulin therapy which, by the way, I personally experimented

with by giving myself gamma injections IM. I had an inkling that 90% of the

reason one or both arms of the immune system are not functioning optimally is

because I'm not ABSORBING (probably due to genetic inborn errors in amino

acid metabolism as well as enzyme deficiencies, toxins, over-civilization

stress, etc.) enough of the raw materials in my diet, namely protein, which our

bodies are supposed to hydrolize into amino acids and then further down the

metabolic pathways into ANTIBODIES. Well, I could eat a ton of the best organic

meat available, drink protein shakes all day, and still not have all that raw

material protein equate to produce enough antibodies to ward off your

garden-variety viral and bacterial pathogens. I believe for those of us with

compromised guts, Xymo shortens that process significantly and gets to the

point of

generating antibodies that I'm desparately low in. It gives us these

necessary IgG antibodies in a concentrated bio-available form immediately and

without waiting for the conversion process to maybe take place. I have found

that

there is so much more to restoring and preserving optimal wellness,

specifically immunity, than measuring one's NK cells by taking supplement

isolates;

the real key is to ingest regularly concentrated forms of natural whole

foods and raw materials. Eating a healthy diet of normal organic foods and

taking handfulls of isolated supplements just isn't enough these days - at

least

not for me. I'm not saying whey isn't effective; it is. I'm just saying that

whey is okay, but like any complete food protein, still requires hydrolysis

of the native proteins, and the inherent IgGs are not high enough, not to

mention that many of us are already sensitive to the milk by-products like

casein

and lactoglobulin in whey, and allergy impedes the processing of the

proteins into aminos into enough antibodies to make a difference. The Xymo is

also

a complete food protein, however, the IgG levels inherent in the final

product are high enough to compensate for any part of the proteins that don't

wind

up getting converted for whatever reason.

Here's some anecdotal info I recorded for my own use: I used to get

upper/lower acute respiratory viral infections quite frequently (every 3 mos.

like

clockwork) with the usual atypical symptom pathology of a sore throat,

inflamed sinuses, low grade fever, aches and pains, always followed by a nasty

bout

of bacterial bronchitis. I tested myself by subjecting myself through more

than one bout of enviromental stress, lack of sleep, etc. and have not

acquired any prolonged respiratory infection whatsoever, whereas before, it was

inevitable that a prolonged infection would eventually result from such

stressors. This time, the worst that happened since taking the Xymo was a low

grade

fever (actually beneficial to get fevers every once in a great while, but

that is a topic of another conversation) with zero other symptoms other than

body aches which ended within 48 hours instead of 3 weeks. Now, this episode

could've been due to a totally different virus, but I would always get the

same symptoms before with each infection. It was 100% predictable - every

time.

There's obviously no way for me to prove that my apparent improvement of

both arms of my immune system (Th1 cell-mediated and Th2 humoral) is due to

the

Xymogen, but the bottom line is that Xymo is the ONLY item I've added to my

regime since the last respiratory infection I acquired back in Feb. 05. I

didn't start the Xymo until March and, other than that one fever bout, have not

had any other infections. I will need to gve it more time to really know

for sure.

Hope this info is helpful!

[Guest guest]

thanks for posting this.

have you ever taken denatured whey, by itself, and had problems with

it (protracted herxing/weakening)? found anything to ameliorate the

prob (i notice your homemade mix is ~<20% in IPRx). how many times/day

do u take the mix?

thanks,

lance

>

> I recall someone posting a comment re oral gamma globulin and

thought I

> should post my experience with a relatively scarce product which,

for me, has

> blown away any other immune booster on the market. It is called

Xymogen IgG

> 2000DF. Please bear in mind that I am not trying to market the stuff

nor do I

> hold stock in the company that makes or distributes it. The purpose

of this is

> to spread the word because I'm ecstatic that something seems to

have finally

> worked for me out of the myriad of immune supplements I've tried

over several

> years that have either failed or have performed marginally. Perhaps

it will

> work for others with even more serious history than myself which

would really

> make it above all else.

>

> For one, Xymogen is non-dairy and much higher in immunoglobulins,

IGF-1, and

> transferrin than any whey in existence. I use it in conjunction with

all my

> other boosters, including the TF+ Advanced Formula. The Xymogen is

the same

> product as Immunolin, just re-packaged and marketed under the

Xymogen brand.

> It is basically a bovine-derived serum concentrate; kind of like

ingesting

> a powdered form of gamma globulin or IVIG ( IV gamma) which is

given usually

> only to those with proven cases of PID (primary immune deficiency,

but not

> HIV) such as those with the " Boy in the Plastic Bubble " syndrome.

I do not

> qualify for PID because I have normal total IgA, but have what I

would say is a

> subclinical form of immune deficiency (as many do who don't even

realize it)

> and specifically, through the dozens and dozens of tests over the

last 5

> years, discovered that, along with subpar cell-mediated immunity

(low NK cell

> activity and T-cells), I exhibit a sub-normal level of one or more

of the IgG

> subclasses, part of the humoral immunity which is a critical line

of defense

> against exogenous pathogens like cold viruses. Technically, I would be

> labeled as having a IgG subclass deficiency.

>

> I do my own " proprietary " mix of Xymo (3 tblspns) with ImmunePro Rx (1

> tbspn), one of the best wheys on the market, GlutImmune (1 tbspn -

the best form

> of glutamine I'm aware of) and ElectroMix, an electrolyte mix

which, when it

> goes into solution, produces a very pleasant effervescent drink that

> facilitates easy dispersion and provides the necessary electrolytes

that, when

> combined with the native proteins, creates a superior transport

mechanism for the

> aminos and minerals alike. All I can say is that anyone with immune

issues of

> any kind should at least try Xymo. It is also a superior source of

complete

> protein and " way " beyond whey...and a lot less hassle, expense, and

risk

> than doing gamma globulin therapy which, by the way, I personally

experimented

> with by giving myself gamma injections IM. I had an inkling that

90% of the

> reason one or both arms of the immune system are not functioning

optimally is

> because I'm not ABSORBING (probably due to genetic inborn errors in

amino

> acid metabolism as well as enzyme deficiencies, toxins,

over-civilization

> stress, etc.) enough of the raw materials in my diet, namely

protein, which our

> bodies are supposed to hydrolize into amino acids and then further

down the

> metabolic pathways into ANTIBODIES. Well, I could eat a ton of the

best organic

> meat available, drink protein shakes all day, and still not have

all that raw

> material protein equate to produce enough antibodies to ward off your

> garden-variety viral and bacterial pathogens. I believe for those

of us with

> compromised guts, Xymo shortens that process significantly and gets

to the point of

> generating antibodies that I'm desparately low in. It gives us these

> necessary IgG antibodies in a concentrated bio-available form

immediately and

> without waiting for the conversion process to maybe take place. I

have found that

> there is so much more to restoring and preserving optimal wellness,

> specifically immunity, than measuring one's NK cells by taking

supplement isolates;

> the real key is to ingest regularly concentrated forms of natural

whole

> foods and raw materials. Eating a healthy diet of normal organic

foods and

> taking handfulls of isolated supplements just isn't enough these

days - at least

> not for me. I'm not saying whey isn't effective; it is. I'm just

saying that

> whey is okay, but like any complete food protein, still requires

hydrolysis

> of the native proteins, and the inherent IgGs are not high enough,

not to

> mention that many of us are already sensitive to the milk

by-products like casein

> and lactoglobulin in whey, and allergy impedes the processing of the

> proteins into aminos into enough antibodies to make a difference.

The Xymo is also

> a complete food protein, however, the IgG levels inherent in the

final

> product are high enough to compensate for any part of the proteins

that don't wind

> up getting converted for whatever reason.

>

> Here's some anecdotal info I recorded for my own use: I used to get

> upper/lower acute respiratory viral infections quite frequently

(every 3 mos. like

> clockwork) with the usual atypical symptom pathology of a sore throat,

> inflamed sinuses, low grade fever, aches and pains, always followed

by a nasty bout

> of bacterial bronchitis. I tested myself by subjecting myself

through more

> than one bout of enviromental stress, lack of sleep, etc. and have not

> acquired any prolonged respiratory infection whatsoever, whereas

before, it was

> inevitable that a prolonged infection would eventually result from

such

> stressors. This time, the worst that happened since taking the

Xymo was a low grade

> fever (actually beneficial to get fevers every once in a great

while, but

> that is a topic of another conversation) with zero other symptoms

other than

> body aches which ended within 48 hours instead of 3 weeks. Now, this

episode

> could've been due to a totally different virus, but I would always

get the

> same symptoms before with each infection. It was 100% predictable

- every time.

> There's obviously no way for me to prove that my apparent

improvement of

> both arms of my immune system (Th1 cell-mediated and Th2 humoral)

is due to the

> Xymogen, but the bottom line is that Xymo is the ONLY item I've

added to my

> regime since the last respiratory infection I acquired back in Feb.

05. I

> didn't start the Xymo until March and, other than that one fever

bout, have not

> had any other infections. I will need to gve it more time to

really know

> for sure.

>

> Hope this info is helpful!

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