Re: Magnesium/Vitamin C for Dan and anybody else that wants to read it. :)

[Guest guest]

Thanks Gail -- very interesting. Hadn't heard the C/glutathione

connection before, but it I guess is just another example of the

amazing interactions between various vitamins and other

compounds. Whenever someone (not you!) says " oh, vitamin c

is completely safe -- your body will just dump what it doesn't

need " , just isn't educated on these interactions.

Please thank your friend for me -- and I guess that means I

better start the undenatured whey -- build up my gluthione. I've

shyed away from the liver cleanes -- I think I'm too weak for that

right now. Thanks too for your info on the magnesium. Again, I

strongly recommend the Alfred Blasi site for more info on his

electrolyte formula.

Dan

> > Hi Dan, Replies below.

> >

> > I'm curious about your mag dosages. Was it mag orotate

that

> > you were taking all that time? Does it tend to cause less

> > diarrhea (!) or loose stools?

>

> *** It was magnesium orotates I was and am still taking. I

would

> take anywhere from 6 to 8 500mg. tablets a day until I would

pull out

> of the relapse wannabe. I did this successfully twice

preventing a

> full blown repalse. But sad to say, it didn't work a third time (for

> reasons I don't have a clue as to why), and I've never again

tried

> it. It doesn't seem to have any effect on my bowels but like they

> say people with cfids tend to be deficient in the mineral so

maybe

> even that large amount was not too much. I only take 500mg.

daily

> normally. I have gone years (probably 4 maybe 5 years)

without a

> relapse until this last year. We ended up getting a bad case of

the

> flu during the holidays then had a relapse that lasted about 3

or 4

> months. Hadn't had one that bad in years. Then husband had

to have

> bypass surgery and shortly after that and I wasn't even very

steady

> on my feet at the time and so (guess the stress of it all) I had

> another relapse. It's been a bad year but even so I hadn't had

a bad

> year in a very, very long time and am now back in the saddle.

> >

> (No hurry, but if you are able to contact your friend with the vit C

> > intolerance, and what helped it, I'd appreciate it.)

>

> *** I did contact her that's why it's taking a while to get back to

> you. Had to wait until she replied. Here is her reply:

>

> " Yes, I can only do small amounts and I always wondered why.

Before

> I got ill I took 3 grams a day and it did wonders for me and then

> after it made me feel bad. Well on another list a

knowledgeable man

> said that people with cfids and fibro and similar type afflictions

> had low glututhione and didn't process toxins well and for this

> reason it was not recommended that they do much vitamin C

as vitamin

> C lowers glutathione levels and would make them feel and be

worse. "

>

> *** That was her reply to me. I have not had any trouble taking

> large amounts of the vitamin except it tends to make me

sleepy. I

> don't have any idea if that is glututhione related or not. I have

> done many liver cleanses tho and perhaps that as helped. I

think I

> might decrease it now and see if I can tell a difference.

>

> Gail N.

> >

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>

> I've

> shyed away from the liver cleanes -- I think I'm too weak for that

> right now.

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Dan, you can do the castor oil packs. It's much easier on the liver

and gentle to do. Also, milk thistle or even just drinking lemon

water will help the liver. I also agree if one is too weak don't do

the cleanse. IMO sometimes it's better to build before trying

to handle the liver cleanse. And when you do feel strong enough to

give it a try remember you can drink water anytime you want.

says not to after 2:00 p.m., but I've found drinking the water helps

make the cleanse much easier to do. Gail N.

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

I totally agree -- doing a cleanse can be dangerous if one is too

weak, therefore it's better to build up, before doing anything too

extreme.

I admire for bringing parasites, etc., to our attention, but I

find her waaay off the wall -- very extreme -- when it comes to

some of her suggestions -- like using LYE instead of soap, just

as one example.

I was desperate enough though a few years back to order her

Zapper, but after a few days of use my nose started bleeding at

the oddest times. I soon found out that even herself

admitted that it can cause coagulation problems, and many AIDS

patients and some CFIDS patients had worsened while using

the zapper.

Perhaps if she hadn't been so extreme, some of her more

realistic concerns would've been taken seriously.

thanks Gail,

d.

> >

> > I've

> > shyed away from the liver cleanes -- I think I'm too weak for

that

> > right now.

> ==================

> Dan, you can do the castor oil packs. It's much easier on the

liver

> and gentle to do. Also, milk thistle or even just drinking lemon

> water will help the liver. I also agree if one is too weak don't do

> the cleanse. IMO sometimes it's better to build before

trying

> to handle the liver cleanse. And when you do feel strong

enough to

> give it a try remember you can drink water anytime you want.

> says not to after 2:00 p.m., but I've found drinking the water

helps

> make the cleanse much easier to do. Gail N.