RE: Glutathione paper : rich

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thanx rich for all the hard work and helping us patients ..your a life

saver tealk

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> From: rvankonynen <richvank@...>

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> Date: 10/12/2004 11:19:19 AM

> Subject: Glutathione paper-21

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> IS REPLETION OF GLUTATHIONE LIKELY TO BE THE COMPLETE ANSWER FOR

> TREATING CFS?

>

> NO.

>

> GSH depletion occurs near the beginning of the complex pathogenesis

> of CFS. There are likely to be many interactions and vicious

> circles as the pathogenesis develops into the pathophysiology, and

> there may also be damage that is difficult to correct. The

> mediators of such damage would likely be infections, toxins and

> reactive oxygen species, all of which are able to build up because

> of the depletion of GSH. It is likely that a multifaceted treatment

> protocol will be necessary.

>

> When GSH repletion is begun in patients who have been GSH-depleted

> for extended periods of time, their immune and detoxication systems

> can begin to function at higher levels of performance. If their

> bodies have accumulated elevated levels of toxins (especially

> mercury) and infections, glutathione repletion can cause significant

> Herxheimer-type reactions as pathogens are killed and toxins are

> mobilized. Care should be taken to proceed slowly and cautiously in

> such cases in order to avoid moving toxins into the central nervous

> system or exacerbating symptoms to a level that is intolerable to

> the patient.

>

> CONCLUSION

>

> Glutathione depletion is an important aspect of the pathogenesis of

> chronic fatigue syndrome for at least a substantial fraction of

> patients.

>

> Rich

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> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for posting your paper Rich. I am currently considering having a Vitamin

D Test but have been taking Reduced L Glutathione for the last 5 months. Will

this render the test pointless? Are these related at all?

tea lk <48tealk17@...> wrote:

thanx rich for all the hard work and helping us patients ..your a life

saver tealk

> [Original Message]

> From: rvankonynen <richvank@...>

> < >

> Date: 10/12/2004 11:19:19 AM

> Subject: Glutathione paper-21

>

>

>

> IS REPLETION OF GLUTATHIONE LIKELY TO BE THE COMPLETE ANSWER FOR

> TREATING CFS?

>

> NO.

>

> GSH depletion occurs near the beginning of the complex pathogenesis

> of CFS. There are likely to be many interactions and vicious

> circles as the pathogenesis develops into the pathophysiology, and

> there may also be damage that is difficult to correct. The

> mediators of such damage would likely be infections, toxins and

> reactive oxygen species, all of which are able to build up because

> of the depletion of GSH. It is likely that a multifaceted treatment

> protocol will be necessary.

>

> When GSH repletion is begun in patients who have been GSH-depleted

> for extended periods of time, their immune and detoxication systems

> can begin to function at higher levels of performance. If their

> bodies have accumulated elevated levels of toxins (especially

> mercury) and infections, glutathione repletion can cause significant

> Herxheimer-type reactions as pathogens are killed and toxins are

> mobilized. Care should be taken to proceed slowly and cautiously in

> such cases in order to avoid moving toxins into the central nervous

> system or exacerbating symptoms to a level that is intolerable to

> the patient.

>

> CONCLUSION

>

> Glutathione depletion is an important aspect of the pathogenesis of

> chronic fatigue syndrome for at least a substantial fraction of

> patients.

>

> Rich

>

>

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

Sorry to be so slow in responding.

No, I don't think that taking the glutathione for 5 months will

render the D metabolite measurements pointless.

I don't fully understand the mechanism that Dr. Marshall has been

discussing. I don't think he has it completely worked out yet,

himself. So far, I think that building glutathione would be

complementary to doing the Marshall protocol, but I can't prove it.

Glutathione normally helps the immune system to do its job. I think

the goal of the Marshall protocol is also to support the immune

system, so it seems to me that they should be compatible.

Rich

> Thanks for posting your paper Rich. I am currently considering

having a Vitamin D Test but have been taking Reduced L Glutathione

for the last 5 months. Will this render the test pointless? Are

these related at all?