RE: Low-dose naltrexone: steve

[Guest guest]

TEALK,

Hi. I also take low dose naltraxone, under the care of Dr Bernard

Bihari. I cannot say enough good things about him, and the results he has with

his patients. You asked how one can know if it is working. I had zero

lymphocytes w/o it. Literally zero, had the test repeated a few times by a

different

physician. Zero every time!!! I was a goner. It took 3 months for them to

return, and return to TOTALLY NORMAL!!

To Steve Du Pre:

Are you a patient of Dr Bihari's? You mentioned him in your e mail.

Carol

in LI, NY

[Guest guest]

hi steve glad to hear its helping u so well. been on it since last dec . i

have been on low dose naltrexone using liquid one tsp = 5 mg but have

increased my dose when my allergies are off the wall.( 10 mg - 7.5 mg).. i

have borderline low natural killer cell funtion. so have been advised to

use it. ...when i finish one bottle ( 3 month) i take a two week break from

it ... i dont have cold , flu etc... so i dont know if its working..

i wish i did get colds as it would mean my immune sytstem is better

balance i have been told..

its a promblem if people are taking pain medication, it wouldnt work with

the naltrexone use..

are there any ways test wise that u can tell its effective beyond symptom

relief steve ? thanx in advance tealk.

> [Original Message]

> From: Du Pre <isaiah43@...>

> experimental < >

> Date: 8/12/2004 11:31:32 AM

> Subject: Low-dose naltrexone

>

> Hello,

> After 20 months taking 4.5 mg naltrexone due to low natural killer

cell function, I can report that I have not had any colds or flu during the

20 month period. I'm one of those that usually picks up every flu that

goes around, so I'm happy that I do not have to go through the long

recovery time after having the flu. This particular treatment was found by

a Dr. Bernard Bihari.

> See information and web site under my signature line. People often

start at 3 mg for a couple months and then move up to 4.5 mg. This is a

physician prescribed medicine. So far, my HMO won't cover it. I get it

from a compounding pharmacy. One capsule is taken after 9 p.m. at night.

> Du Pre

> Website: http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/isaiah40soaringeagle/index.html

> or http://webs.lanset.com/isaiah43/

> " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

>

> LDN boosts the immune system, activating the body's own natural defenses.

> Up to the present time, the question of " What controls the immune

system? " has not been present in the curricula of medical colleges and the

issue has not formed a part of the received wisdom of practicing

physicians. Nonetheless, a body of research over the past two decades has

pointed repeatedly to one's own endorphin secretions (our internal opioids)

as playing the central role in the beneficial orchestration of the immune

system, and recognition of the facts is growing.

>

> Witness these statements from a recent review article of medical progress

in the November 13, 2003 issue of the prestigious New England Journal of

Medicine: " Opioid-Induced Immune Modulation: .... Preclinical evidence

indicates overwhelmingly that opioids alter the development,

differentiation, and function of immune cells, and that both innate and

adaptive systems are affected.1,2 Bone marrow progenitor cells,

macrophages, natural killer cells, immature thymocytes and T cells, and B

cells are all involved. The relatively recent identification of

opioid-related receptors on immune cells makes it even more likely that

opioids have direct effects on the immune system.3 "

>

> The brief blockade of opioid receptors between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m. that is

caused by taking LDN at bedtime each night is believed to produce a

prolonged up-regulation of vital elements of the immune system by causing

an increase in endorphin and enkephalin production. Normal volunteers who

have taken LDN in this fashion have been found to have much higher levels

of beta-endorphins circulating in their blood in the following days. Animal

research by I. Zagon, Ph.D., and his colleagues has shown a marked increase

in metenkephalin levels as well. [Note: Additional information for Dr.

Zagon can be found at the end of this page.]

>

> Bihari says that his patients with HIV/AIDS who regularly took LDN before

the availability of HAART were generally spared any deterioration of their

important helper T cells (CD4+).

>

> In human cancer, research by Zagon over many years has demonstrated

inhibition of a number of different human tumors in laboratory studies by

using endorphins and low dose naltrexone. It is suggested that the

increased endorphin and enkephalin levels, induced by LDN, work directly

on the tumors' opioid receptors - and, perhaps, induce cancer cell death

(apoptosis). In addition, it is believed that they act to increase natural

killer cells and other healthy immune defenses against cancer.

>

> In general, in people with diseases that are partially or largely

triggered by a deficiency of endorphins (including cancer and autoimmune

diseases), or are accelerated by a deficiency of endorphins (such as

HIV/AIDS), restoration of the body's normal production of endorphins is the

major therapeutic action of LDN.

> http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tealk and all,

Today I was able to talk my doctor into having my Natural killer cell function

retested, so I will report on the difference from the previous test, which was

done at Immunosciences Laboratory a couple years ago. My previous result was 13

lytic units (normal range is 25-250 lytic units). So, you can see that the

function was practically nonexistent.

By the way, I have not heard of the liquid form of naltrexone. Where do you get

that?

Du Pre

Website: http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/isaiah40soaringeagle/index.html

or http://webs.lanset.com/isaiah43/

" By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

From: " tea lk " <48tealk17@...>

Subject: RE: Low-dose naltrexone: steve

hi steve glad to hear its helping u so well. been on it since last dec . i

have been on low dose naltrexone using liquid one tsp = 5 mg but have

increased my dose when my allergies are off the wall.( 10 mg - 7.5 mg).. i

have borderline low natural killer cell funtion. so have been advised to

use it. ...when i finish one bottle ( 3 month) i take a two week break from

it ... i dont have cold , flu etc... so i dont know if its working..

i wish i did get colds as it would mean my immune sytstem is better

balance i have been told..

its a promblem if people are taking pain medication, it wouldnt work with

the naltrexone use..

are there any ways test wise that u can tell its effective beyond symptom

relief steve ? thanx in advance tealk.

[Guest guest]

Hi steve,

hope your nk cell function increased .. i get it from

from dallas texas.apothecure.inc( apothe'cure inc)

thier is no 800 number on the bottle but bet they have a website.

http://www.apothecure.com/patientshtml/pathome.html

..i get a six month supply at a time..they usually make it with a sweetner

but i dont want anything artificial but i dont mind not so great tasting

stuff as i wash it down with water afterwards ( so they never include

oratine ( sugar) with it)?

they have a very interesting newsletter they mail out to their patients.:

always learn something from it ? on website.

i think wellness pharmacy can compound it also but not sure if liquid form

tealk

> [Original Message]

> From: Du Pre <isaiah43@...>

> experimental < >

> Date: 8/13/2004 5:52:14 PM

> Subject: RE: Low-dose naltrexone: steve

>

>

> Tealk and all,

> Today I was able to talk my doctor into having my Natural killer cell

function retested, so I will report on the difference from the previous

test, which was done at Immunosciences Laboratory a couple years ago. My

previous result was 13 lytic units (normal range is 25-250 lytic units).

So, you can see that the function was practically nonexistent.

> By the way, I have not heard of the liquid form of naltrexone. Where do

you get that?

> Du Pre

> Website: http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/isaiah40soaringeagle/index.html

> or http://webs.lanset.com/isaiah43/

> " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

>

> From: " tea lk " <48tealk17@...>

> Subject: RE: Low-dose naltrexone: steve

>

> hi steve glad to hear its helping u so well. been on it since last dec .

i

> have been on low dose naltrexone using liquid one tsp = 5 mg but have

> increased my dose when my allergies are off the wall.( 10 mg - 7.5 mg).. i

> have borderline low natural killer cell funtion. so have been advised to

> use it. ...when i finish one bottle ( 3 month) i take a two week break

from

> it ... i dont have cold , flu etc... so i dont know if its working..

> i wish i did get colds as it would mean my immune sytstem is better

> balance i have been told..

> its a promblem if people are taking pain medication, it wouldnt work with

> the naltrexone use..

> are there any ways test wise that u can tell its effective beyond symptom

> relief steve ? thanx in advance tealk.

>

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