Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Are you certain you have low oxygen in your blood (i.e. hemoglobin usually has a constant level of oxygen). This can be measured in a doc's office. It's more likely that through chronic illness you have low oxygen in your tissues...not your hemoglobin/blood... Some possibilities would be sauna (to open circulation), get an Rx for oxygen and a tank and breathe it in at low flow rates (if you *do* have low oxygen), hyperbaric oxygen. > I was wondering what is the most effective way of getting more > oxygen into the blood of a CFS sufferer? I wonder if there are > supplements/herbs that can help. > > Any information would be very helpful. > > Thanks > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Hi Pam. Here is a breathing exercise recommended by Dr. Cheney, originally posted by Carol Seiverling, that is very quick and easy to do. It increases the blood's ability to carry oxygen. An explanation of how it does that is included below. Tom " New " Breathing Technique: no cost, easier, and more effective at increasing oxygen transport than the " rebreather " protocol. First, the benefits of increased oxygen: 1) more energy at the cellular level; 2) suppresses growth of yeast (and other pathogens); 3) prevents swelling of the brain caused by decreased oxygen; Dr. Cheney said this was not uncommon in CFIDS and is the connection between Chiari Malformation and CFIDS. (The pressure-like headaches that many of us get also came to mind!) Dr. Cheney said that Chiari is a compression phenomenon die to lack of sufficient width/depth at the base of the skull, while CFIDS is a compression phenomenon due to anoxic cerebral edema (brain swelling due to lack of oxygen, is a correct " translation " , I think.) Many are familiar with Dr. Cheney's earlier oxygen protocol using a partial rebreather mask to address tissue acidosis/blood alkalosis and thereby improve oxygen transport from the blood into cells. (see www.virtualhometown.com/dfwcfids - Cheney Treatment Plan - Prescriptions) Dr. Cheney has realized this rebreather protocol, while beneficial, has limitations. It can be difficult to find the equipment, expensive, and requires much " tweaking " . Most significantly, he has come to realize that it does not address the underlying problem of 2,3 DPG levels. 2,3 DPG is a substance that allows oxygen to be released from the hemoglobin in our blood. Without 2,3 DPG, oxygen can't get off the hemoglobin and into the cells of our body. This oxygen deprivation makes the body switch over to anaerobic metabolism, which produces tissue acidosis, which can be painful. However, the more 2,3 DPG one has, the more oxygen is released from the blood into the tissues and organs - and brain. (And oxygen will help kill candida and other pathogens.) The very simple breathing technique Cheney is recommending to all his patients can be found on Weil's tape/CD of eight different breathing methods. This particular method is Weil's favorite - he says it's the most powerful way to treat chronic illness that he knows of. Ayurvedic physicians developed it 3,000 years ago. And 30 years of clinical experience now back it up. Inhale through your nose for 4 seconds. Hold your breath for 7 seconds. Exhale through tightly pursed lips for 8 seconds, creating " back pressure " . (You should be able to hear the air being forced out of your mouth.) Do this 8 times - a total of two-and-a-half minutes. Do this twice a day - a grand total of 5 minutes a day. That's all it takes. (If you feel lightheaded just do it 6 times - or until you begin to feel lightheaded - then build up to 8.) You must be very faithful and consistent for this to work, and it takes weeks for the body to adjust the 2,3 DPG levels. But your oxygen transport will get better and better over time. What does this do? This method is based on the same principle at work in the marathon runners from Kenya who always win the Boston Marathon. They live and train at a high altitude. They run like fiends at 12,000 feet. To compensate for the lack of oxygen at higher altitudes, their bodies make a physiological adjustment - raising 2,3 DPG levels so more oxygen is released. The higher the 2,3 DPG goes, the easier it is to run. Then the Kenyans go to Boston, which is at sea level (with more oxygen in the atmosphere of course), and run their race. But their bodies are still set for high altitude, so they end up with more oxygen being transported into their tissues than other runners. They are super-oxygenated, transporting oxygen like crazy. Dr. Cheney's goal is to trick our bodies into thinking we live at a higher altitude, thus raising our 2,3 DPG levels, thereby transporting more oxygen from our blood into our tissues. How is that done? By not breathing! This method is actually regulated breath holding. As you regularly breath hold, your O2 drops. You induce a state called desaturation. (I assume this means not enough oxygen). And for those five minutes a day of desaturation your body panics. It believes it's high up in the mountains and it spends the rest of the day compensating for that (by raising 2,3 DPG), even though you're not up in the mountains. The body is so paranoid about desaturation that even though you live in Dallas, for example, it will program your body as if you live in Denver. Besides being cheaper, easier, and more effective, Cheney says this method has another advantage over the rebreather mask - you can't " over- regulate " . I think this means to over correct. With the rebreather mask you can " counter- regulate " in a complex way I didn't follow, but the result is that you can get too much oxygen transfer going on, which will cause your body to lower 2,3 DPG, ultimately lowering oxygen transfer. This is why the rebreather stopped working for many of us after several months. With this breathing method, Cheney said that the body will raise 2,3 DPG to the point that it is beneficial, but it won't raise it so high that it some how (I didn't follow the explanation) " forces a more profound alkalosis " of the blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 > Hi Pam. > > Here is a breathing exercise recommended by Dr. Cheney, originally > posted by Carol Seiverling, that is very quick and easy to do. It > increases the blood's ability to carry oxygen. An explanation of how > it does that is included below. Hi Tom Thanks so much for that, it probably explains why I feel so good when I have done my yoga! I will try and do it regularly. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Hi . I think that the answer to both your questions is yes. Other list members report doing it frequently as a relaxation tool. For those not familiar with breathing exercises, focus on your breathing while you do this exercise and don't consciously try to hurry through it, and you will probably feel calmer and more relaxed when you are finished. The increasing 2,3 DPG effect is accomplished by tricking the body into thinking that it's not going to get enough oxygen. This is done by holding your breath briefly and exhaling in a way that causes back pressure (exhaling through pursed lips). Once you've done that, it's OK to do meditation or whatever. I don't think that anyone has ever reported this exercise causing any problems. If anyone has, please let us know. Tom > Tom, > > Thank you for posting this! The breathing exercise is also relaxing. Can you do this more than 5 minutes a day? Also, can I begin my relaxation breathing/meditation immediately following and still get the desired effect? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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