Re: Carnitor ( l- carnitine) and CoQ10

[Guest guest]

HI Everyone,

I got back my lab results and I am low in serum carnitine.

Unfortunately my insurance will not pay for Carnitor does anyone know

whats a good dose and a good place to get it? The brand NOW sells a

bottle with 180 capsules of 500mg each. I don't know how reputable

the brand is.

I also want to try CoQ10. I read that the best type is called Q-

Gel the least expensive price I saw it for was from NEEDS, the Nutri-

needs brand. They also sell the original from the company. It is

supposed to be three times stronger then the regular CoQ10.

Thanks,

Yaakov

> Hi, Christie,

>

> >I am starting CO-Q10 working up to 700mg and carnitor working up

to 990mg.

> >Added to this will be B Vitimins, alpha lipoic acid, selenium, vit

C to

> >prevent as much free radical damage as possible. I also started

DHEA.

> >Carnitine (carnitor) is covered by insurance, but Co-q isn't.

Because of

> >the

> >expense, I started working toward getting Blue Cross to cover it.

>

> When I was started on CoQ10, my doc wrote a scrip for sublingual

formulated.

> This was not on the market then - isn't now unless you consider

chewable and

> sublingual as the same. His/my source was Pharmacy on the Park;

Charlotte,

> NC 28211 ph: 800-654-3115

> As it was available by Rx formulation only, insurance should have

paid for

> it - but didn't. (Didn't pay for Carnitor either. Ostensibly

because the

> CoQ10 was OTC, & FDA regulations be d* & $ed; Carnitor was

not " approved for

> use " in CFS, and FDA policy and approval language be d*^$ed. But

then, Blue

> Cross is greater than God, or at least any stupid government

agency,

> according to ThemSelves. BTW, my sympathies on your insurer.)

>

> I have been taking 3g/day Carnitor for 7 years now. I also have a

terrible

> body odor, but have noticed that it changes when my symptoms

change -

> sometimes acidic, sometimes smoky (oxidation products?), sometimes

something

> I can't describe except as really nasty. The odor, and my symptoms,

have

> been getting progressively worse. So I'm thinking that it is some

infection

> causing the stink.

>

> Incidentally, I have seen where some docs believe that mito damage

can be

> due to infection with mycoplasma or other intracellular parasite.

>

> Jerry

>

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[Guest guest]

I read somewhere the " NOW " brand is the only brand that Balch

author of the " nutritional Healing " book recommends. I've used their Vit

c and bromelain and they worked fine.

Phil

mintlilacs@... wrote:

> HI Everyone,

>

> I got back my lab results and I am low in serum carnitine.

> Unfortunately my insurance will not pay for Carnitor does anyone know

> whats a good dose and a good place to get it? The brand NOW sells a

> bottle with 180 capsules of 500mg each. I don't know how reputable

> the brand is.

> I also want to try CoQ10. I read that the best type is called Q-

> Gel the least expensive price I saw it for was from NEEDS, the Nutri-

>

> needs brand. They also sell the original from the company. It is

> supposed to be three times stronger then the regular CoQ10.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Yaakov

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yakov,

The cheapest place I have found carnitine is from Beyond a Century in

Powdered form. It is not at all bad tasting, just a little sour. They

also have Q10 cheap in powdered form, which I tried and can't

recommend as I think absorbability is a real issue. I have since

switched to a high priced gel cap and noticed a differece

immeadiately at the same dose.

Matt

> > Hi, Christie,

> >

> > >I am starting CO-Q10 working up to 700mg and carnitor working up

> to 990mg.

> > >Added to this will be B Vitimins, alpha lipoic acid, selenium,

vit

> C to

> > >prevent as much free radical damage as possible. I also started

> DHEA.

> > >Carnitine (carnitor) is covered by insurance, but Co-q isn't.

> Because of

> > >the

> > >expense, I started working toward getting Blue Cross to cover it.

> >

> > When I was started on CoQ10, my doc wrote a scrip for sublingual

> formulated.

> > This was not on the market then - isn't now unless you consider

> chewable and

> > sublingual as the same. His/my source was Pharmacy on the Park;

> Charlotte,

> > NC 28211 ph: 800-654-3115

> > As it was available by Rx formulation only, insurance should have

> paid for

> > it - but didn't. (Didn't pay for Carnitor either. Ostensibly

> because the

> > CoQ10 was OTC, & FDA regulations be d* & $ed; Carnitor was

> not " approved for

> > use " in CFS, and FDA policy and approval language be d*^$ed. But

> then, Blue

> > Cross is greater than God, or at least any stupid government

> agency,

> > according to ThemSelves. BTW, my sympathies on your insurer.)

> >

> > I have been taking 3g/day Carnitor for 7 years now. I also have a

> terrible

> > body odor, but have noticed that it changes when my symptoms

> change -

> > sometimes acidic, sometimes smoky (oxidation products?),

sometimes

> something

> > I can't describe except as really nasty. The odor, and my

symptoms,

> have

> > been getting progressively worse. So I'm thinking that it is some

> infection

> > causing the stink.

> >

> > Incidentally, I have seen where some docs believe that mito

damage

> can be

> > due to infection with mycoplasma or other intracellular parasite.

> >

> > Jerry

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

Thanks Matt and Phil for responding. I did a massive web search and

heres what I found:

The best price for L-carnitine that I found is Allergy

research brand at 250 tablets of 500mg each. It sells for 36 dollars

at iherb.com

The best price for Q-gel (www.qgel.com) is www.epic4health.com

they usually ship only 6 bottles at a time, but first time customers

can order just one bottle. They also sell a lipoic acid that is

hydrosoluble which I ordered.

I plan to order from both places but I have never done so until

now so I can't vouch for them.

Take care,

Yaakov

> > > Hi, Christie,

> > >

> > > >I am starting CO-Q10 working up to 700mg and carnitor working

up

> > to 990mg.

> > > >Added to this will be B Vitimins, alpha lipoic acid, selenium,

> vit

> > C to

> > > >prevent as much free radical damage as possible. I also

started

> > DHEA.

> > > >Carnitine (carnitor) is covered by insurance, but Co-q isn't.

> > Because of

> > > >the

> > > >expense, I started working toward getting Blue Cross to cover

it.

> > >

> > > When I was started on CoQ10, my doc wrote a scrip for

sublingual

> > formulated.

> > > This was not on the market then - isn't now unless you consider

> > chewable and

> > > sublingual as the same. His/my source was Pharmacy on the Park;

> > Charlotte,

> > > NC 28211 ph: 800-654-3115

> > > As it was available by Rx formulation only, insurance should

have

> > paid for

> > > it - but didn't. (Didn't pay for Carnitor either. Ostensibly

> > because the

> > > CoQ10 was OTC, & FDA regulations be d* & $ed; Carnitor was

> > not " approved for

> > > use " in CFS, and FDA policy and approval language be d*^$ed.

But

> > then, Blue

> > > Cross is greater than God, or at least any stupid government

> > agency,

> > > according to ThemSelves. BTW, my sympathies on your insurer.)

> > >

> > > I have been taking 3g/day Carnitor for 7 years now. I also have

a

> > terrible

> > > body odor, but have noticed that it changes when my symptoms

> > change -

> > > sometimes acidic, sometimes smoky (oxidation products?),

> sometimes

> > something

> > > I can't describe except as really nasty. The odor, and my

> symptoms,

> > have

> > > been getting progressively worse. So I'm thinking that it is

some

> > infection

> > > causing the stink.

> > >

> > > Incidentally, I have seen where some docs believe that mito

> damage

> > can be

> > > due to infection with mycoplasma or other intracellular

parasite.

> > >

> > > Jerry

> > >

> > >

_________________________________________________________________

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http://explorer.msn.com

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

Thanks Matt and Phil for responding. I did a massive web search and

heres what I found:

The best price for L-carnitine that I found is Allergy

research brand at 250 tablets of 500mg each. It sells for 36 dollars

at iherb.com

The best price for Q-gel (www.qgel.com) is www.epic4health.com

they usually ship only 6 bottles at a time, but first time customers

can order just one bottle. They also sell a lipoic acid that is

hydrosoluble which I ordered.

I plan to order from both places but I have never done so until

now so I can't vouch for them.

Take care,

Yaakov

> > > Hi, Christie,

> > >

> > > >I am starting CO-Q10 working up to 700mg and carnitor working

up

> > to 990mg.

> > > >Added to this will be B Vitimins, alpha lipoic acid, selenium,

> vit

> > C to

> > > >prevent as much free radical damage as possible. I also

started

> > DHEA.

> > > >Carnitine (carnitor) is covered by insurance, but Co-q isn't.

> > Because of

> > > >the

> > > >expense, I started working toward getting Blue Cross to cover

it.

> > >

> > > When I was started on CoQ10, my doc wrote a scrip for

sublingual

> > formulated.

> > > This was not on the market then - isn't now unless you consider

> > chewable and

> > > sublingual as the same. His/my source was Pharmacy on the Park;

> > Charlotte,

> > > NC 28211 ph: 800-654-3115

> > > As it was available by Rx formulation only, insurance should

have

> > paid for

> > > it - but didn't. (Didn't pay for Carnitor either. Ostensibly

> > because the

> > > CoQ10 was OTC, & FDA regulations be d* & $ed; Carnitor was

> > not " approved for

> > > use " in CFS, and FDA policy and approval language be d*^$ed.

But

> > then, Blue

> > > Cross is greater than God, or at least any stupid government

> > agency,

> > > according to ThemSelves. BTW, my sympathies on your insurer.)

> > >

> > > I have been taking 3g/day Carnitor for 7 years now. I also have

a

> > terrible

> > > body odor, but have noticed that it changes when my symptoms

> > change -

> > > sometimes acidic, sometimes smoky (oxidation products?),

> sometimes

> > something

> > > I can't describe except as really nasty. The odor, and my

> symptoms,

> > have

> > > been getting progressively worse. So I'm thinking that it is

some

> > infection

> > > causing the stink.

> > >

> > > Incidentally, I have seen where some docs believe that mito

> damage

> > can be

> > > due to infection with mycoplasma or other intracellular

parasite.

> > >

> > > Jerry

> > >

> > >

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