Re: Vitamin C-Rich

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In a message dated 1/14/01 9:05:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

vankonynenburg1@... writes:

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, I think you're referring to my message. I actually said 10 to 20

grams, not milligrams. I suspect that is what you meant to say.

Concerning " bad things " resulting from vitamin C, you may be referring to

Dr. Cheney's belief that if you are low in glutathione and are trying to

build it up with nondenatured whey protein, you should limit your vitamin C

supplementation to 2 grams per day. I think that his reasoning is that the

two interact. Reduced glutathione can be used to reduce oxidized vitamin C.

His concern is that if you load up on vitamin C, you will be using your

limited supply of glutathione to regenerate the vitamin C, and it thus won't

be able to do its other jobs. It is true that reduced glutathione can

regenerate vitamin C, but I'm not sure that he's correct about the rest of

it, since the cells have a certain production rate of oxidizing free

radicals, and if vitamin C quenches a big fraction of them, then they are

taken care of. If there is not enough reduced glutathione to regenerate the

vitamin C back to the reduced form, then Dr. Cathcart says that the oxidized

form just leaves the body. Dr. Cheney could be right about this, but I don't

think there is proof of that. In any case, if you want to generate diarrhea

with vitamin C, I think you will have to use a lot more than 2 grams per day.

Rich >>

Yes, you are right. I meant to say 20grams. Also, I found out that why it

is said that high doses of vitamin c could be bad....it's because it has been

found in almost every study to create kidney stone in MOST, not all, but most

people. I really need to be careful of this because I am prone to kidney

stones to begin with. Is there a way to counter this so that I can still

take vitamin c in high amounts to produce diarrhea? I am not sure if the

acidity part of vit c that causes the kidney stones or if its something else.

Also, the other bad part about taking high doses of vitamin c is that it acts

as an antihistimine and it dries out my nose and eyes so much!

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Also, I found out that why it

> is said that high doses of vitamin c could be bad....it's because it has been

> found in almost every study to create kidney stone in MOST, not all, but most

> people. I really need to be careful of this because I am prone to kidney

> stones to begin with. Is there a way to counter this so that I can still

> take vitamin c in high amounts to produce diarrhea? I am not sure if the

> acidity part of vit c that causes the kidney stones or if its something else.

> Also, the other bad part about taking high doses of vitamin c is that it acts

> as an antihistimine and it dries out my nose and eyes so much!

,

Here's a quotation from Dr. Murray's book " Encyclopedia of Nutritional

Supplements, pp. 78-79: " The primary concern with high dosages often cited in

the medical literature is the development of calcium oxalate kidney stones.

However, numerous studies demonstrate that in persons not on hemodialysis or

suffering from recurrent kidney stones, severe kidney disease, or gout,

high-dosage vitamin C therapy does not cause kidney stones. " So if you are

prone to having kidney stones, it sounds as though you are correct, you should

probably be careful about high doses of vitamin C. Please note my usual

disclaimer that I am not licensed to diagnose or treat disease, so please accept

this simply as information to be considered together with your doctor.---Rich