Re: hormones and hair loss

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/00 3:53:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

hudecz@... writes:

<<

I was wondering if any of you have experienced hair loss? I mean a lot of

hair! This is really upsetting me...I would like to think that I am not vain

but I guess I am...I have medium length brown hair that I get a hand full of

every time I wash my hair!!!!!! This has been happening for the last

month......I did start having low-grade fevers again about a month ago and

went thru a very bad spell for a few weeks......also I remember losing some

hair after having both of my children-which was probably hormonal.....but

this is different because it >>

Taking MSM did wonders for my hair loss. It really helped.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/2000 5:53:49 PM Central Daylight Time,

hudecz@... writes:

>

> I was wondering if any of you have experienced hair loss? I mean a lot of

> hair! This is really upsetting me...I would like to think that I am not

vain

> but I guess I am...I have medium length brown hair that I get a hand full

of

> every time I wash my hair!!!!!! This has been happening for the last

month...

> ...I did start having low-grade fevers again about a month ago and went

thru

> a very bad spell for a few weeks......also I remember losing some hair

after

> having both of my children-which was probably hormonal.....but this is

> different because it is lasting a long time and there seems to be a lot of

it.

> ....also-for the women on the list-my periods have been off-they have not

> been regular....also I have always had real bad pms-my husband will vouch

for

> this! Anyways-any suggestions out there?

>

Been there, seen that, done all that. When I flare, I loose hair. My doc

says that is a thyroid function. As I write, I have finally, after five

months this time, stopped loosing hair. I say inositol did it. That's all

that I have done different. If that is something you don't want to try, you

might ask your doc about some T3... if thyroid is the problem, you should be

able to stop loosing hair with this or the inositol.

Just cut my hair really short so I won't have too many months of fuzzys as it

all grows back.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

,

I would definitely have your IGF-1 levels tested if your experiencing hair

loss. People taking HGH or GH stimulators have reported new hair growth and

maybe a depressed HGH level (something many PWC's have) is causing the hair

loss. Just a thought and it's a pretty inexpensive and common test. Steve

Bullock

hormones and hair loss

>

> I was wondering if any of you have experienced hair loss? I mean a lot of

hair! This is really upsetting me...I would like to think that I am not

vain but I guess I am...I have medium length brown hair that I get a hand

full of every time I wash my hair!!!!!! This has been happening for the

last month......I did start having low-grade fevers again about a month ago

and went thru a very bad spell for a few weeks......also I remember losing

some hair after having both of my children-which was probably

hormonal.....but this is different because it is lasting a long time and

there seems to be a lot of it.....also-for the women on the list-my periods

have been off-they have not been regular....also I have always had real bad

pms-my husband will vouch for this! Anyways-any suggestions out there?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I've been experiencing significant hair loss since I've had CFS (almost 4

years). I lose huge clumps every time I wash my hair, plus huge clumps when

I comb it and throughtout the day. My carpet is one big hair ball! I saw a

few dermatologists about it early on in my illness. The first was really

surprised by how much I was losing -- he said it was a " profound " amount.

But each dermatologist said that because of something to do with my hair

follicles, they could tell I had healthy hair underneath growing back. I do

notice tiny hairs growing back sometimes -- and I'm not bald yet, so it must

be true! They called it tellegrum something-or-other and said it happens

when your body is under a physical stress. In my case, I don't know if it's

due to my chronic fevers, hormone changes, nutritional deficiences or immune

system problems.

I also experienced a change in my periods after CFS. My periods used to be

very heavy and last up to 7 days. Now they're very light and last 1-3 days.

I also have chronic yeast infections which drive me completely crazy! The

joys of CFS. ;-)

Laurel

<< I was wondering if any of you have experienced hair loss? I mean a lot of

hair! This is really upsetting me...I would like to think that I am not vain

but I guess I am...I have medium length brown hair that I get a hand full of

every time I wash my hair!!!!!! This has been happening for the last

month......I did start having low-grade fevers again about a month ago and

went thru a very bad spell for a few weeks......also I remember losing some

hair after having both of my children-which was probably hormonal.....but

this is different because it is lasting a long time and there seems to be a

lot of it.....also-for the women on the list-my periods have been off-they

have not been regular....also I have always had real bad pms-my husband will

vouch for this! Anyways-any suggestions out there?

>>

[Guest guest]

I too experience drastic hair loss. My dermatologist diagnosed me with

tilligens..whatever also. He prescribed a steriod drop but when I used it ,

i lost more hair. My thyroid has been very difficult to regulate since I

have been sick (about 4 years for me too). This could have something to do

with the hair loss. My hair is all over. I have to apologise when I stay at

relatives homes or a friend. There does not seem to be anything I can do

either. It is very disconcerting. I am going to try HGH injections and

someone posted that ..that should help. I will keep you posted..barbara

[Guest guest]

Laurie notices a major change of my hair (thin brittle lifeless) with the onset

of CFIDS, as I became

better my hair returned to normal

... hoping that some gray will disappear but I suspect that is age related....

M Lassesen, M.S.

ex " Dr.Gui (MSDN) " , " Dr. VB "

cv: http://www.folkarts.com/kenl/ KenL@...

Phone: 360 297.4717 Cell: 360 509.8970 Fax 520 832.6836

----- Original Message -----

From: hudecz

I was wondering if any of you have experienced hair loss? I mean a lot of

hair! This is really upsetting me...I would like to think that I am not vain

but I guess I am...I have medium length brown hair that I get a hand full of

every time I wash my hair!!!!!! This has been happening for the last

month......I did start having low-grade fevers again about a month ago and went

thru a very bad spell for a few weeks......also I remember losing some hair

after having both of my children-which was probably hormonal.....but this is

different because it is lasting a long time and there seems to be a lot of

it.....also-for the women on the list-my periods have been off-they have not

been regular....also I have always had real bad pms-my husband will vouch for

this! Anyways-any suggestions out there?

[Guest guest]

Yep, I had approx. a 50% hair loss over the last two years. Have

a low thyroid function along with endocrine problems, including

pituitary, adrenals and full hyterectomy. Have an " integrated

medicine " doctor who seems to be mostly focused on very

gentle slow treatment on the gut and brain. What are the best

thyroid tests to run and what are side effects of inositol?

Last week I got it all whacked off short and had it colored

BRIGHT red. Looks much better than the flat blonde bob. Does

anyone know if any of the lost hair will regrow. Mine started to a

little and I have inch long tufts around the receding hair line that

stopped growing months ago.

Thanks, Uma

-- In egroups, RGray80533@a...

wrote:

> In a message dated 9/25/2000 5:53:49 PM Central Daylight

Time,

> hudecz@n... writes:

>

> >

> > I was wondering if any of you have experienced hair loss? I

mean a lot of

> > hair! This is really upsetting me...I would like to think that I

am not

> vain

> > but I guess I am...I have medium length brown hair that I get

a hand full

> of

> > every time I wash my hair!!!!!! This has been happening for

the last

> month...

> > ...I did start having low-grade fevers again about a month ago

and went

> thru

> > a very bad spell for a few weeks......also I remember losing

some hair

> after

> > having both of my children-which was probably

hormonal.....but this is

> > different because it is lasting a long time and there seems to

be a lot of

> it.

> > ....also-for the women on the list-my periods have been

off-they have not

> > been regular....also I have always had real bad pms-my

husband will vouch

> for

> > this! Anyways-any suggestions out there?

> >

>

>

> Been there, seen that, done all that. When I flare, I loose hair.

My doc

> says that is a thyroid function. As I write, I have finally, after

five

> months this time, stopped loosing hair. I say inositol did it.

That's all

> that I have done different. If that is something you don't want to

try, you

> might ask your doc about some T3... if thyroid is the problem,

you should be

> able to stop loosing hair with this or the inositol.

> Just cut my hair really short so I won't have too many months of

fuzzys as it

> all grows back.

> Ruth

[Guest guest]

I had a some profound hair loss starting about 4 years ago (around time of

onset) that only stopped about 6 months ago. Uma, my hair actually grew

back in places like on my hairline. It was very interesting. I have been

taking thyroid supplementation for awhile (over a year) so I don't know why

all of a sudden there was a change for the better. I am sort of inclined to

" blame " the whey (specifically IPro) but can't make any real connections.

It *is* better with more hair... and I also did the same thing - dyed it

sort of a very bright purplish color from dark brown just bc I couldn't

stand the way it was...

[Guest guest]

,I think you are right on target in suspecting that the ImmunePro

wasresponsible for the improvement in your hair growth. Hair is madeprimarily

from the alpha keratin proteins. Alpha keratins areparticularly high in the

amino acid cysteine (11.2 mole percent). Guess why whey protein is useful in

building up glutathione. That'sright, it's high in cysteine. I'd say you have

a BINGO!Rich Van K. > I had a some profound hair loss

starting about 4 years ago (aroundtime of> onset) that only stopped about 6

months ago. Uma, my hair actuallygrew> back in places like on my hairline. It

was very interesting. Ihave been> taking thyroid supplementation for awhile

(over a year) so I don'tknow why> all of a sudden there was a change for the

better. I am sort ofinclined to> " blame " the whey (specifically IPro) but can't

make any realconnections.> It *is* better with more hair... and I also did the

same thing -dyed it> sort of a very bright purplish color from dark brown just

bc Icouldn't> stand the way it was...> >

[Guest guest]

on 9/25/00 6:42 PM, hudecz at hudecz@... wrote:

> I was wondering if any of you have experienced hair loss? I mean a lot of

> hair! This is really upsetting me...I would like to think that I am not vain

> but I guess I am...I have medium length brown hair that I get a hand full of

> every time I wash my hair!!!!!! This has been happening for the last

> month......I did start having low-grade fevers again about a month ago and

> went thru a very bad spell for a few weeks......also I remember losing some

> hair after having both of my children-which was probably hormonal....

1) Sudden hair loss is a cardinal sign of 's Syndrome (WS), which is

a form of hypothyroidism characterized by a low body temperature (<98.2 or

so). WS cannot be detected by any thyroid blood tests. The only way to

test yourself for it is to take your body temperature with a normal glass,

oral thermometer (not digital).

You take your temp at 3-, 6- and 9-hours after waking and repeat the

measurements for around 5 days straight. If your average daily body

temperature is significantly below 98.6 F, and you have the symptoms of

WS--hair loss, fatigue, headaches/migraines, depression, heat/cold

intolerance, easy sweating, loss of sweating, flushing, hypoglycemia,

unexplained weight gain or inability to lose weight, constipation,

post-prandial sleepiness...--then you have WS. Note that the most common

cause for the onset of WS is childbirth/pregnancy...

If the above scenario applies to you and you're interested in learning more

and/or treating it, contact me. I have WS and I've been treating it for a

few months now, with good results.

2) Another possibility that is based on some hearsay from Dr. Mercola's

website is that drinking mostly distilled water can cause hair loss in

people; and apparently it can happen quite suddenly and dramatically.

best,

Hud

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/2000 9:06:01 PM Central Daylight Time,

uma@... writes:

> What are the best

> thyroid tests to run and what are side effects of inositol?

>

> Last week I got it all whacked off short and had it colored

> BRIGHT red. Looks much better than the flat blonde bob. Does

> anyone know if any of the lost hair will regrow. Mine started to a

> little and I have inch long tufts around the receding hair line that

> stopped growing months ago.

Uma,

Thyroid tests for resistance do not exist, FDA approved. Don't know of any

side effects to inositol. Heard lecithin might be a problem --

undocumented-- if you have gall bladder probems.

My hair's auburn now. I've already gone through the bright red. You might

find that you look like you have more hair if you darken the red a little...

I did. As far as the receding hair. It might return as you get more well...

if no " male pattern " baldness runs in the family.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

Barbara, I truly believe that a little inositol will either slow down the

loss of your hair, or stop the loss entirely.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/2000 9:47:38 PM Central Daylight Time,

jane_doe_press@... writes:

> had a some profound hair loss starting about 4 years ago (around time of

> onset) that only stopped about 6 months ago. Uma, my hair actually grew

> back in places like on my hairline. It was very interesting. I have been

> taking thyroid supplementation for awhile (over a year) so I don't know why

> all of a sudden there was a change for the better. I am sort of inclined

to

> " blame " the whey (specifically IPro) but can't make any real connections.

> It *is* better with more hair... and I also did the same thing - dyed it

> sort of a very bright purplish color from dark brown just bc I couldn't

> stand the way it was...

>

, to hazard a guess as to why after almost a year on thyroid

supplimentation... you stopped losing and actually gained back hair....

....when you began the drug your thyroid was stressed so much so that you were

almost totally thyroid resistant. As you got better and the stress on your

thyroid was reduced, your body accepted more of the thyroid hormone for usage

--either from the supplement exclusively, or a combination of what your body

makes and the supplement. This allowed the thyroid to again adequately

regain control your hair production. You may even find that soon you will be

lowering your thyroid dosage.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

How much inositol do you recommend..500? 1000? more? I am familair with

inositol but would like some feed back on dosing..Thank you Ruth..Barbara

[Guest guest]

Ruth..right now my thyroid is in hyper mode. It was hypo..and my medication

was adjusted but the dose was too much...I believe this has something but not

all to do with this heavy hair loss I am experiencing. Also, I am in a bad

relapse and bedridden most the time. My nails are peeling and splitting

also. Will inositol help the nails as well? barbara

[Guest guest]

My hair used to be VERY thick, but not anymore. I have noticed that

a lot comes off in my hands when I wash it. This has been going on

for some time. It still looks OK, but I miss the way it used to be.

It has also become quite fine.

I noticed that when Ken was still early in his recovery, his hair had

become very fine and thinner (not bald - he is one of the lucky guys

that doesn't have to expect pattern baldness), and since his

recovery, his hair is thicker again and not so fine.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

I have also noticed that surgery and long antibiotic usage will precipitate

hair loss. Ruth

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/26/2000 12:05:37 PM Central Daylight Time,

Sanzibarr@... writes:

> Will inositol help the nails as well? barbara

>

Barbara,

I can't say. I thought good nail growth was related to calcium... does

anyone know if it's hormonal instead? Inositol is good for resistant

hormones.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/26/2000 12:05:55 PM Central Daylight Time,

Sanzibarr@... writes:

> How much inositol do you recommend..500? 1000? more? I am familair with

> inositol but would like some feed back on dosing..Thank you Ruth..Barbara

>

I started taking 600mg once a day and worked up to 1200mg once a day. There

are some on this service that have taken more than that. I haven't. I

started to add another 600mg today, on top of the 1200mg, but I was feeling

so good I wanted to enjoy it. My best experience has been with myo-inositol.

D-chiro-inositol is made in the body by myo-inositol. When I took straight

D-chiro the medium contained too many calories and I did not seem to get the

best benefits, as quickly as I have with the myo.

Good luck. Sorry about your relapse. I don't know what you might expect on

the inositol. You may feel really better, or you may herx because you are

able to absorb more of whatever else you are taking... ie whey, antibiotics,

antivirals.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

Barbara,

Nails are also made from keratin, as hair is, and also require quite

a

bit of cysteine. I think the peeling and splitting could very well

be

due to depletion of cysteine, which also produces glutathione

depletion. You might be a good candidate for one of the

nondenatured whey protein supplements.

Rich

> Ruth..right now my thyroid is in hyper mode. It was hypo..and my

medication

> was adjusted but the dose was too much...I believe this has

something but not

> all to do with this heavy hair loss I am experiencing. Also, I am

in a bad

> relapse and bedridden most the time. My nails are peeling and

splitting

> also. Will inositol help the nails as well? barbara

[Guest guest]

Ruth - cool. sounds good to me. Thanks for the speculation.

I am in a major doc related work related crash so will be awhile til I get

to lower doses of anything. But I look forward to the day.

> , to hazard a guess as to why after almost a year on thyroid

> supplimentation... you stopped losing and actually gained back hair....

> ...when you began the drug your thyroid was stressed so much so that you

were

> almost totally thyroid resistant. As you got better and the stress on

your

> thyroid was reduced, your body accepted more of the thyroid hormone for

usage

> --either from the supplement exclusively, or a combination of what your

body

> makes and the supplement. This allowed the thyroid to again adequately

> regain control your hair production. You may even find that soon you will

be

> lowering your thyroid dosage.

> Ruth