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Hi Alissa, welcome! I'm just peeking in at the posts now (I'm at

work) but wanted to say " hi! " and that you might want to do a post

with the same information but title it " Ask Dr. Chanksy " and one

for " Ask Dr. Wagner " to see what they feel: is it more anxiety or

OCD.

Children with OCD can certainly have worries like your son's but I'm

not sure (and I'm just another mom, 18 yr old son with OCD, began in

6th grade) which your son's would fall under.... There's also a

great website " worrywise kids " that is for anxiety/OCD, you might

find some info there.

My son, when young, worried about things a lot. Like would

something give him cancer or how long would it take some cut/scratch

to heal...would ask sometimes again the same day, but often enough

it was annoying. I didn't learn until I joined this group (years

later) that these were " reassurance questions " which apparently can

fall under OCD.

Gotta go,

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just joined this group because we're seeing some issues emerge

with our 5

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Hi Alissa, welcome! I'm just peeking in at the posts now (I'm at

work) but wanted to say " hi! " and that you might want to do a post

with the same information but title it " Ask Dr. Chanksy " and one

for " Ask Dr. Wagner " to see what they feel: is it more anxiety or

OCD.

Children with OCD can certainly have worries like your son's but I'm

not sure (and I'm just another mom, 18 yr old son with OCD, began in

6th grade) which your son's would fall under.... There's also a

great website " worrywise kids " that is for anxiety/OCD, you might

find some info there.

My son, when young, worried about things a lot. Like would

something give him cancer or how long would it take some cut/scratch

to heal...would ask sometimes again the same day, but often enough

it was annoying. I didn't learn until I joined this group (years

later) that these were " reassurance questions " which apparently can

fall under OCD.

Gotta go,

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just joined this group because we're seeing some issues emerge

with our 5

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Hi Alissa-

My daugther will be 6 in October. She was diagnosed with OCD in

Febuary 2007. She seeks reassurance through constant questions about

some of the same things you mentioned. She never wants us to move

out of our current house and says that she won't ever move out of our

house, not even when she is a grown-up. She worries about her health

or scratches and bruises she might find on her body. She was going

to the bathroom as much as 20 times in 30 minute period. She was

also keeping her fists clenched all day for about 2 months. We asked

our pediatrician and she sent us to a psychologist. The psy worked

with her in learning how to fight her worries through exposure and

behavioral therapy. She also takes Zoloft, which made the majority

of her compulsions disappear. She just started Kindergarten 2 1/2

weeks ago and we are starting to see compulsions again. We saw the

psy. today and she said that the stress of school could definitely be

a trigger. She doesn't show compulsions at school, just at home. I

hope this helps. If you are concerned, I would ask for a referral to

a psychologist who could determine if it is anxiety or OCD or

something else going on. Good luck

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just joined this group because we're seeing some issues emerge

with our 5

> 1/2 year old DS and a lot of things are pointing towards anxiety

and / or

> OCD issues. He just started Kindergarten on August 30th and I was

in a minor

> car accident a few days before school started. Ever since then

he's been

> having a very hard time at night.

>

> He worries about things that 5 year olds don't worry about. He

wants to know

> if the same things will happen tomorrow that happened today. Will

we say

> the same things, will the same baseball game be on TV, will the

same cars

> drive past us on our way home, can we start last week over again,

etc.,

> etc. Last night he fell asleep crying in my arms " because when

he's my age

> he won't be able to cuddle with me any more " . He cried earlier in

the day

> because he doesn't ever want to not live in our house.

>

> His thoughts seem to be very random but he's very serious about his

worries

> and they bring him to tears out of the blue. He finally admitted

that he is

> worried about something happening to me or daddy. He worries that

we won't

> be around when he is a daddy. He's also very worried about his 93

year old

> great grandmother (DH's grandmother) whose health is failing

recently.

>

> My husband thinks I'm over reacting but he has slight OCD so I

don't think

> it's out of the realm of possibility that our son may have it. I

spoke to

> DS's K teacher and she said that he's doing great in school so

far. It just

> seems to be that his worries arise at home. I'm sure it has a lot

to do with

> the change in schedule, he's riding the bus now and he's got a

whole new set

> of classmates. He's been in the same school building for three

years

> already for pre-school so he knows the adults in the building but

he isn't

> familiar with his new classmates just yet.

>

> He has a 6 year physical in October but I'm wondering if I need to

do

> something sooner.

>

> What have your experiences been before your children were

diagnosed? What

> lead you to the official diagnosis? What course of action does the

> pediatrician take at first? Our ped seems to be very laid back

about things

> and I've always had to really push for things to be looked at more

closely.

> As an example both of my children have asthma and allergies but it

wasn't

> until I got sick of not having good answers that I pushed for

testing with

> an allergy specialist. It wasn't until then we discovered the

underlying

> asthma.

>

> --

> Alissa

>

>

>

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hi allissa my dd was 5 when diagnosed she too did really well in school

follow your instincs mothers know best bonnie

armom2kk wrote:

> Hi Alissa-

> My daugther will be 6 in October. She was diagnosed with OCD in

> Febuary 2007. She seeks reassurance through constant questions about

> some of the same things you mentioned. She never wants us to move

> out of our current house and says that she won't ever move out of our

> house, not even when she is a grown-up. She worries about her health

> or scratches and bruises she might find on her body. She was going

> to the bathroom as much as 20 times in 30 minute period. She was

> also keeping her fists clenched all day for about 2 months. We asked

> our pediatrician and she sent us to a psychologist. The psy worked

> with her in learning how to fight her worries through exposure and

> behavioral therapy. She also takes Zoloft, which made the majority

> of her compulsions disappear. She just started Kindergarten 2 1/2

> weeks ago and we are starting to see compulsions again. We saw the

> psy. today and she said that the stress of school could definitely be

> a trigger. She doesn't show compulsions at school, just at home. I

> hope this helps. If you are concerned, I would ask for a referral to

> a psychologist who could determine if it is anxiety or OCD or

> something else going on. Good luck

>

>>

>> Hi everyone,

>>

>> I just joined this group because we're seeing some issues emerge

> with our 5

>> 1/2 year old DS and a lot of things are pointing towards anxiety

> and / or

>> OCD issues. He just started Kindergarten on August 30th and I was

> in a minor

>> car accident a few days before school started. Ever since then

> he's been

>> having a very hard time at night.

>>

>> He worries about things that 5 year olds don't worry about. He

> wants to know

>> if the same things will happen tomorrow that happened today. Will

> we say

>> the same things, will the same baseball game be on TV, will the

> same cars

>> drive past us on our way home, can we start last week over again,

> etc.,

>> etc. Last night he fell asleep crying in my arms " because when

> he's my age

>> he won't be able to cuddle with me any more " . He cried earlier in

> the day

>> because he doesn't ever want to not live in our house.

>>

>> His thoughts seem to be very random but he's very serious about his

> worries

>> and they bring him to tears out of the blue. He finally admitted

> that he is

>> worried about something happening to me or daddy. He worries that

> we won't

>> be around when he is a daddy. He's also very worried about his 93

> year old

>> great grandmother (DH's grandmother) whose health is failing

> recently.

>>

>> My husband thinks I'm over reacting but he has slight OCD so I

> don't think

>> it's out of the realm of possibility that our son may have it. I

> spoke to

>> DS's K teacher and she said that he's doing great in school so

> far. It just

>> seems to be that his worries arise at home. I'm sure it has a lot

> to do with

>> the change in schedule, he's riding the bus now and he's got a

> whole new set

>> of classmates. He's been in the same school building for three

> years

>> already for pre-school so he knows the adults in the building but

> he isn't

>> familiar with his new classmates just yet.

>>

>> He has a 6 year physical in October but I'm wondering if I need to

> do

>> something sooner.

>>

>> What have your experiences been before your children were

> diagnosed? What

>> lead you to the official diagnosis? What course of action does the

>> pediatrician take at first? Our ped seems to be very laid back

> about things

>> and I've always had to really push for things to be looked at more

> closely.

>> As an example both of my children have asthma and allergies but it

> wasn't

>> until I got sick of not having good answers that I pushed for

> testing with

>> an allergy specialist. It wasn't until then we discovered the

> underlying

>> asthma.

>>

>> --

>> Alissa

>>

>>

>>

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Hi, Alissa. Your son sounds a lot like my daughter, now age 13, who has

generalized anxiety. It showed up as early as 3 years old, first as separation

anxiety, which she still suffers from a little. She also worries a lot about her

parents getting hurt, her getting sick or dying, any kind of catastrophe, etc.

The difference between her and her OCD brother is that he presented with

compulsions--hand washing, weird rituals for entering a room, etc.--whereas the

only kind of compulsion she's ever shown has been skin picking, and not to a

degree where it's interfered with her life.

So you might want to keep an eye out for compulsions. In the absence of those,

I'd say your son may have generalized anxiety and if it persists, you might as

well have him evaluated. Therapists can provide him with strategies on what to

do with those irrational thoughts.

Alissa Hamilton <alissajh@...> wrote: Hi

everyone,

I just joined this group because we're seeing some issues emerge with our 5

1/2 year old DS and a lot of things are pointing towards anxiety and / or

OCD issues. He just started Kindergarten on August 30th and I was in a minor

car accident a few days before school started. Ever since then he's been

having a very hard time at night.

He worries about things that 5 year olds don't worry about. He wants to know

if the same things will happen tomorrow that happened today. Will we say

the same things, will the same baseball game be on TV, will the same cars

drive past us on our way home, can we start last week over again, etc.,

etc. Last night he fell asleep crying in my arms " because when he's my age

he won't be able to cuddle with me any more " . He cried earlier in the day

because he doesn't ever want to not live in our house.

His thoughts seem to be very random but he's very serious about his worries

and they bring him to tears out of the blue. He finally admitted that he is

worried about something happening to me or daddy. He worries that we won't

be around when he is a daddy. He's also very worried about his 93 year old

great grandmother (DH's grandmother) whose health is failing recently.

My husband thinks I'm over reacting but he has slight OCD so I don't think

it's out of the realm of possibility that our son may have it. I spoke to

DS's K teacher and she said that he's doing great in school so far. It just

seems to be that his worries arise at home. I'm sure it has a lot to do with

the change in schedule, he's riding the bus now and he's got a whole new set

of classmates. He's been in the same school building for three years

already for pre-school so he knows the adults in the building but he isn't

familiar with his new classmates just yet.

He has a 6 year physical in October but I'm wondering if I need to do

something sooner.

What have your experiences been before your children were diagnosed? What

lead you to the official diagnosis? What course of action does the

pediatrician take at first? Our ped seems to be very laid back about things

and I've always had to really push for things to be looked at more closely.

As an example both of my children have asthma and allergies but it wasn't

until I got sick of not having good answers that I pushed for testing with

an allergy specialist. It wasn't until then we discovered the underlying

asthma.

--

Alissa

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Hi, Alissa. Your son sounds a lot like my daughter, now age 13, who has

generalized anxiety. It showed up as early as 3 years old, first as separation

anxiety, which she still suffers from a little. She also worries a lot about her

parents getting hurt, her getting sick or dying, any kind of catastrophe, etc.

The difference between her and her OCD brother is that he presented with

compulsions--hand washing, weird rituals for entering a room, etc.--whereas the

only kind of compulsion she's ever shown has been skin picking, and not to a

degree where it's interfered with her life.

So you might want to keep an eye out for compulsions. In the absence of those,

I'd say your son may have generalized anxiety and if it persists, you might as

well have him evaluated. Therapists can provide him with strategies on what to

do with those irrational thoughts.

Alissa Hamilton <alissajh@...> wrote: Hi

everyone,

I just joined this group because we're seeing some issues emerge with our 5

1/2 year old DS and a lot of things are pointing towards anxiety and / or

OCD issues. He just started Kindergarten on August 30th and I was in a minor

car accident a few days before school started. Ever since then he's been

having a very hard time at night.

He worries about things that 5 year olds don't worry about. He wants to know

if the same things will happen tomorrow that happened today. Will we say

the same things, will the same baseball game be on TV, will the same cars

drive past us on our way home, can we start last week over again, etc.,

etc. Last night he fell asleep crying in my arms " because when he's my age

he won't be able to cuddle with me any more " . He cried earlier in the day

because he doesn't ever want to not live in our house.

His thoughts seem to be very random but he's very serious about his worries

and they bring him to tears out of the blue. He finally admitted that he is

worried about something happening to me or daddy. He worries that we won't

be around when he is a daddy. He's also very worried about his 93 year old

great grandmother (DH's grandmother) whose health is failing recently.

My husband thinks I'm over reacting but he has slight OCD so I don't think

it's out of the realm of possibility that our son may have it. I spoke to

DS's K teacher and she said that he's doing great in school so far. It just

seems to be that his worries arise at home. I'm sure it has a lot to do with

the change in schedule, he's riding the bus now and he's got a whole new set

of classmates. He's been in the same school building for three years

already for pre-school so he knows the adults in the building but he isn't

familiar with his new classmates just yet.

He has a 6 year physical in October but I'm wondering if I need to do

something sooner.

What have your experiences been before your children were diagnosed? What

lead you to the official diagnosis? What course of action does the

pediatrician take at first? Our ped seems to be very laid back about things

and I've always had to really push for things to be looked at more closely.

As an example both of my children have asthma and allergies but it wasn't

until I got sick of not having good answers that I pushed for testing with

an allergy specialist. It wasn't until then we discovered the underlying

asthma.

--

Alissa

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WELCOME TO THE GROUP;; LARRY;; THERE ARE NEAT FOLKS HERE ;BEST WISHES TO YOU DORT;;FROM MICHLarry <bluffdogorange@...> wrote: Glad to have found this group. Got PPS and now find out I got lymes.Hope I can learn more here about handling the pain. Mornings are tough.Larry

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Hi Larry, welcome to the group, Mornings are the hardest time for me too lately. It seems between depression, fatigue or pain I end up not wanting to get out of bed. I always feel guilty about it too. What type of pain are you experiencing? Joint pain with the Lymes? A friend said moist heat appled to joints helps. good luck Larry <bluffdogorange@...> wrote: Glad to have found this group. Got PPS and now find out I got lymes.Hope I can learn more here about handling the pain.

Mornings are tough.Larry

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Hi , sorry to hear mornings are bad for you also. I also get

depressed when the pain numbers are high. I have tried almost

everything for the pain but it seems I always end up with the pain

meds. The lymes really tops off the misery. Actually I feel the lymes

meds are beginning to work.Had a couple of better days.

What are you doing for your depression? Keep in touch when depressed.

Sincerly,

Larry, Northern Wisconsin

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Hi Larry, I'm glad you have had a couple of better days. How has this week been for you?The Dr. has me on Zoloft for depression. He is currently tapering me up on it now. I'll be at full dose in another week or so.I hope it helps since the depression has made things tough for me. My MS hasn't been too bad lately, but the gastroparesis has been, so I've been down. I've also been so tired lately. Do you get fatigued from the pain? thanks for your support. take care,Larry <bluffdogorange@...> wrote: Hi , sorry to hear

mornings are bad for you also. I also getdepressed when the pain numbers are high. I have tried almosteverything for the pain but it seems I always end up with the painmeds. The lymes really tops off the misery. Actually I feel the lymesmeds are beginning to work.Had a couple of better days.What are you doing for your depression? Keep in touch when depressed.Sincerly,Larry, Northern Wisconsin

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Hi ,

Glad to here your zoloft is helping your depression. Yes I get very

fatigued when Im depressed. When Im feeling fair and up to it, and the

pain level is down I do large old world wood carvings and that really

helps me cope with the depression. Gets the mind off the medical

problems we all have to cope with.

I am taking oxycod for pain and it works good but I dont know about

the long term effects.

Blessings,

Larry northern Wisconsin

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Hi Rita,

We're in the same boat. I wish I didn't have to welcome you to it

because I wish none of us were in it, but welcome. Our three year

old twins (boy and girl) are officially language delayed. Our son

was on the spectrum for several months after weaning (stopping

breastfeeding seems to preceed regression for many kids. Turns out

breast milk has- tada- glutathione and other immune boosters), then

had the dx removed after we put the kids on GF/CF/SF. Our daughter

was diagnosed with the- lol- " Einstein Syndrome " ( the chemically-

induced Einstein syndrome as far as we're concerned) because of her

weird precosity with reading and analytical tasks- music, etc.. Our

theory on it is that vaccine toxins suppressed certain areas of

brain development and the left over energy was channeled into other

areas of development. She could read at two and a half but still

can't answer basic questions.

There's no such thing as " autism " per se, it's just behavior. The

term " autism " makes no more sense than to coin a disease for the act

of throwing up ( " throw-up-itis " ?), merely a symptom which could have

an array of causes- poison, a virus, post-nasal drip, etc.. There

can be a psychiatric drug-induced form of autism, post-institutional

autism (Romanian orphans) and, even if the symptoms aren't precisely

the same as environmental/vaccine-induced autism, the drug companies

and their crap researchers have a wonderful time cranking out bogus

theories based on the confusion of calling all these things " autism " .

Dr. Stoller proposed to call it environmental neuroimmune disorder,

encorporating cause into the name of the syndrome. It's just my

opinino but I agree that the name is important because you can have

NT kids with environmental neuroimmune disorder and extremely

effected kids with the syndrome and it doesn't create an expectation

of rigid, specific behaviors to qualify for treatment, since all may

benefit enormously from various remedies within the same catagory of

treatments. And encorporating cause in this case builds hope for

healing right into the name, whereas " autism " bears the indelible

stigma of hopelessness within mainstream medicine (and subliminally,

in the backs of everyone's minds. Something I find myself having to

fight). Language delay may not be on the " autism spectrum " but,

depending on cause, it's certainly on the environmental neuroimmune

spectrum and will benefit from the same treatments as " autism " .

Read the recent NEMJ report which supposedly exonerated thimerosal

from causing neurological problems. Even despite the fact that the

study stupidly refuses to look at autism, it found high correlations

with tics and language delay! Riddle me this, but how do tics and

language delays not qualify as " neurological problems " ? The PR for

the study was reverse of the actual text. Amazing lies.

Our kids appear to have the same immune suppression, the same

chronic viral infestation, the same yeast overgrowth and metal

toxicity as children with autism. Our son is not out of danger of

the diagnosis either, since if he did not develop from where he is

now, he could qualify. We put the kids on " the diet " (gluten free,

soy free, casein free) and the improvements were close to miraculous

(our son talked for the first time in a year five days after

starting the diet), though we're not all the way there yet. We're

treating the yeast and we're lined up with a DAN doctor to treat the

viruses and chelate.

As far as the degree of metal poisoning which may have initially

collapsed their immune systems (and hypothetically made them more

susceptible to vaccine strain viruses), we're wagering that our

children were effected by about 30% mercury and 70% lead from their

trains and the lead-infested lipstick I unwittingly wore

during pregnancy. This would explain the fact that our daughter

doesn't have many of the typical behaviors associated with mercury

poisoning (she doesn't hand flap or stim) and that our son's

symptoms are so mild and he's not typically irritable. That crap has

to come out of their brains in any case.

Another great list for the nitty-gritty on detoxification is Autism-

Mercury on .

>

> Hi,

> I'm new here and have a preschooler with receptive language

> disorder but no other diagnosis yet. I must admit I laughed so

hard

> after reading the Hating Autism blog it was like therapy for me.

I

> believe my kid is vaccine damaged and for the last year and a half

have

> dug up all the dirt on vaccines I can find, and have learned

everything

> about autism I can.

> I have older kids who are fully vaccinated and received the

mercury

> shots and are NT. So I'm not sure what happened this time but

suspect

> my kid has viral and autoimmunity issues. She also had the

prevnar

> shot which the others didn't.

> I also haven't been able to find much about receptive language

> disorder on the net except that most kids with autism have

problems

> with it but not all kids with it have autism.

>

> Rita

>

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Better to go from doctor to doctor than have your grandson drugged for something he doesn't need. Stay with and trust your intuition, and you'll be led to the right places to go.

Love,

Francine

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Hi. My name is and I have custody of my 7 yo grandson. We have recently been having him evaluated, originally for add, but then the counselor suggested aspergers. I started reading and everything I have read leads me to believe this is . That counselor sent us to the psychiatrist, who after 30 minutes with him decided it was add and wrote me a prescription. We changed counselors and now this counselor says she thinks it is add. Everything I read tells me it is not add,but aspergers. My next thought is to try and find a specialist and see what they determine. I am afraid though, of what all this jumping from one doctor to the next will do to , and what they will think.Any input will be appreciated.

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Hi . I think the most important thing ypou can do is find a

doctor you are comfortable with. Keep looking and don't stay with

anyone who does not make you feel secure. There are a lot of nutty

docs out there, but alot of good ones too!

Daly

>

> Hi. My name is and I have custody of my 7 yo grandson. We

have

> recently been having him evaluated, originally for add, but then

the

> counselor suggested aspergers. I started reading and everything I

have

> read leads me to believe this is . That counselor sent us to

the

> psychiatrist, who after 30 minutes with him decided it was add and

> wrote me a prescription. We changed counselors and now this

counselor

> says she thinks it is add. Everything I read tells me it is not

add,but

> aspergers. My next thought is to try and find a specialist and see

what

> they determine. I am afraid though, of what all this jumping from

one

> doctor to the next will do to , and what they will think.Any

input

> will be appreciated.

>

>

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I belive in the reward system no drugs. I homeschool so that if the

kids want to learn outside all the better. My kids like the outside

patio at the mall it is quiet and has a fountain and after we get

lemonade. I would hold off on the meds and try looking at your dairy

products. RSBT is the problem not dairy. This is a hormome given to

cows not good for us. I can give you a list of Markets and products

that do not use this milk.

The other thing I did was you know those new light blubs that look

funny FULL OF MERCURY! We got rid of ours and I saw a big change.

I am Barbara valet_4u@...

>

>

> Better to go from doctor to doctor than have your grandson drugged

for

> something he doesn't need. Stay with and trust your intuition, and

you'll be led

> to the right places to go.

>

> Love,

> Francine

>

> In a message dated 10/29/2007 10:03:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> pvdibble80@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi. My name is and I have custody of my 7 yo grandson. We

have

> recently been having him evaluated, originally for add, but then

the

> counselor suggested aspergers. I started reading and everything I

have

> read leads me to believe this is . That counselor sent us to

the

> psychiatrist, who after 30 minutes with him decided it was add and

> wrote me a prescription. We changed counselors and now this

counselor

> says she thinks it is add. Everything I read tells me it is not

add,but

> aspergers. My next thought is to try and find a specialist and see

what

> they determine. I am afraid though, of what all this jumping from

one

> doctor to the next will do to , and what they will think.Any

input

> will be appreciated.

>

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, My son who is 10 has Aspergers. He was also diagnosed with ADD when he was 3. His doctor who sees him said the treatment for ADD and Aspergers when it comes to medication is the same. Is he hyperactive? If he is that is ADHD. Aspergers symptoms are not usaually associated with hyperactivity. Also easily distracted is also ADD. My son has problems with appropiate social interaction. This is where the aspergers comes in. Hope this help. My son needed medication because he is so hyperactive. There were so many times where he almost got hurt because he didn't think before he acted. Please anyone else don't preach to me about medication you don't know my son and his life. <pvdibble80@...> wrote: Hi. My name is and I have custody of my 7 yo grandson. We have recently been having him evaluated, originally for add, but then the counselor suggested aspergers. I started reading and everything I have read leads me to believe this is . That counselor sent us to the psychiatrist, who after 30 minutes with him decided it was add and wrote me a prescription. We changed counselors and now this counselor says she thinks it is add. Everything I read tells me it is not add,but aspergers. My next thought is to try and find a specialist and see what they determine. I am afraid though, of what all this jumping from one doctor to the next will do to , and what they will think.Any input will be

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>howdy,

>

>the only bright thing in my life is my dutch rabbit. he is so gentle

>and calm, loving, and accepts me with whatever mood i am in at the

>moment. at least he listens no matter what.

>michelle j

I know what you are talking about. I have a " baby " horse (2.5) who makes me feel

much better when I am down. He is a cuddle bug. When I feel good he likes to

goof around, but when I feel bad he lets me just hug him.

Caryn

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November 3, 2007

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You do have a lot to contend with, and I dont see how it humanly

possible for you to cope. BUT YOU ARE COPING>

But you have persevered with resilience. Like a soldier you have

gone into battle and WON. You are on the winning side, just talking

about all these issues. Don't let the burden of the medical problems

drag you down. You are meant to be Victorious over these scars abd

calamitires.

The path of pain and disillusionment and loneliness has been one I

have traveled. But now after coming thru a jobless despondency I

have come out on top, stronger and employed.

So buck up and love life, though we are crippled and without

consolation , there is a way OUT, UP, and IN.

Hello to your husband also,

Larry

>

> howdy,

>

> my name is michelle and i am new to discussing health issues with

> other than family so this will be a new frontier for me.

>

> my father had triple bypass surgery a month after i graduated from

> college and retired on disability a few years ago. he has sinced

> developed diabetes, which runs in his side of the family, and has

> massive mood swings and depression. he may be laughing and joking

> around 1 minute and very nasty the next.

>

> my mother is still recovering from side effects from a tumor on her

> brain stem and suffers from arthritis and phlebitis. she was

> hospitalized for 3 weeks the other summer and had to relearn to

walk

> again afterwards. she also has low blood pressure and a slow heart

> beat. she deals with my father 24 x 7 and is going to have a

> breakdown someday.

>

> my husband was in saudi arabia during Desert Storm and may have

Gulf

> War Syndrome. He has massive memory problems and can't always

> differentiate from right and wrong. he is fine at work since he

has

> a repetitive job.

>

> my sister left home when she was 18 for the Marines. she moved

home

> with 3 kids and a husband for 8 months and then took off when my

> parents were not home. she never even said good bye to them. she

> wants nothing to do with them so it is all on me.

>

> my husband and i sold our house in january and bought my parents

> house so we could help them financially and physically. my husband

> and i also work opposite shifts so i am the only here at night to

> handle everything.

>

> i also have my own health issues. i am obese, but working on it,

> have allergies to just about everything, and asthma which will kill

> me someday. i have had asthma since birth but was diagnosed when i

> was 13. at that point in time, i had borderline emphasemia. i was

> given 6 months to live. again, when i was 18 i was given 6 months

to

> live. i am now 41 and only have mild asthma. but it will come

back

> again. it has been a very hard road so far. i have had side

effects

> to the ashtma medication that i was on for 22 years and that is

> slowing leeching the calcium out of my spine. if i do not take at

> least 6000 mg of calcium a day, my spince curves, i walk sideways,

> and feel like i have a giant toothache the length of my spine. the

> only thing that takes the pain away is more calcium.

>

> so this is my life. i hate my job. and i wonder why i am

depressed?

>

> the only bright thing in my life is my dutch rabbit. he is so

gentle

> and calm, loving, and accepts me with whatever mood i am in at the

> moment. at least he listens no matter what.

>

> every day i try to be the best at whatever i am doing so that i

know

> that i was able to do it before the asthma comes back in force.

>

> michelle j

>

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I sure second that, !!

I don't see how you are able to be so amazing!!

and I applaud you for keeping going

sending confirming loving energy!

Jean

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November 3, 2007. You do have a lot to contend with, and I dont see how it humanly possible for you to cope. BUT YOU ARE COPING>But you have persevered with resilience. Like a soldier you have gone into battle and WON. You are on the winning side, just talking about all these issues. Don't let the burden of the medical problems drag you down. You are meant to be Victorious over these scars abd calamitires.The path of pain and disillusionment and loneliness has been one I have traveled. But now after coming thru a jobless despondency I have come out on top, stronger and employed. So buck up and love life, though we are crippled and without consolation , there is a way OUT, UP, and IN. Hello to your husband also, Larry>> howdy,> > my name is michelle and i am new to discussing health issues with > other than family so this will be a new frontier for me.> > my father had triple bypass surgery a month after i graduated from > college and retired on disability a few years ago. he has sinced > developed diabetes, which runs in his side of the family, and has > massive mood swings and depression. he may be laughing and joking > around 1 minute and very nasty the next.> > my mother is still recovering from side effects from a tumor on her > brain stem and suffers from arthritis and phlebitis. she was > hospitalized for 3 weeks the other summer and had to relearn to walk > again afterwards. she also has low blood pressure and a slow heart > beat. she deals with my father 24 x 7 and is going to have a > breakdown someday.> > my husband was in saudi arabia during Desert Storm and may have Gulf > War Syndrome. He has massive memory problems and can't always > differentiate from right and wrong. he is fine at work since he has > a repetitive job. > > my sister left home when she was 18 for the Marines. she moved home > with 3 kids and a husband for 8 months and then took off when my > parents were not home. she never even said good bye to them. she > wants nothing to do with them so it is all on me.> > my husband and i sold our house in january and bought my parents > house so we could help them financially and physically. my husband > and i also work opposite shifts so i am the only here at night to > handle everything.> > i also have my own health issues. i am obese, but working on it, > have allergies to just about everything, and asthma which will kill > me someday. i have had asthma since birth but was diagnosed when i > was 13. at that point in time, i had borderline emphasemia. i was > given 6 months to live. again, when i was 18 i was given 6 months to > live. i am now 41 and only have mild asthma. but it will come back > again. it has been a very hard road so far. i have had side effects > to the ashtma medication that i was on for 22 years and that is > slowing leeching the calcium out of my spine. if i do not take at > least 6000 mg of calcium a day, my spince curves, i walk sideways, > and feel like i have a giant toothache the length of my spine. the > only thing that takes the pain away is more calcium. > > so this is my life. i hate my job. and i wonder why i am depressed?> > the only bright thing in my life is my dutch rabbit. he is so gentle > and calm, loving, and accepts me with whatever mood i am in at the > moment. at least he listens no matter what.> > every day i try to be the best at whatever i am doing so that i know > that i was able to do it before the asthma comes back in force.> > michelle j>

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THIS IS KOOL GIRLS HUGS DORTCaryn ez <carynmartinez@...> wrote: new here>>howdy,>>the only bright thing in my life is my dutch rabbit. he is so gentle >and calm, loving, and accepts

me with whatever mood i am in at the >moment. at least he listens no matter what.>michelle jI know what you are talking about. I have a "baby" horse (2.5) who makes me feel much better when I am down. He is a cuddle bug. When I feel good he likes to goof around, but when I feel bad he lets me just hug him.Caryn

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WELCOME TO THE GROUP;; MECHELLE;; LOTS OF NEAT & CARING FOLKS HERE TO LISTEN & TO HELP WHERE THEY CAN;; SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT GOING ON;TAKE CARE OF YOU TOO HUGS DORTboulderpatch <boulderpatch@...> wrote: howdy,my name is michelle and i am new to discussing health issues with other than family so this will be a new frontier for me.my father had triple bypass surgery a month after i graduated from college and retired on disability a few years ago. he has sinced developed

diabetes, which runs in his side of the family, and has massive mood swings and depression. he may be laughing and joking around 1 minute and very nasty the next.my mother is still recovering from side effects from a tumor on her brain stem and suffers from arthritis and phlebitis. she was hospitalized for 3 weeks the other summer and had to relearn to walk again afterwards. she also has low blood pressure and a slow heart beat. she deals with my father 24 x 7 and is going to have a breakdown someday.my husband was in saudi arabia during Desert Storm and may have Gulf War Syndrome. He has massive memory problems and can't always differentiate from right and wrong. he is fine at work since he has a repetitive job. my sister left home when she was 18 for the Marines. she moved home with 3 kids and a husband for 8 months and then took off when my parents were not home. she never even said good bye to

them. she wants nothing to do with them so it is all on me.my husband and i sold our house in january and bought my parents house so we could help them financially and physically. my husband and i also work opposite shifts so i am the only here at night to handle everything.i also have my own health issues. i am obese, but working on it, have allergies to just about everything, and asthma which will kill me someday. i have had asthma since birth but was diagnosed when i was 13. at that point in time, i had borderline emphasemia. i was given 6 months to live. again, when i was 18 i was given 6 months to live. i am now 41 and only have mild asthma. but it will come back again. it has been a very hard road so far. i have had side effects to the ashtma medication that i was on for 22 years and that is slowing leeching the calcium out of my spine. if i do not take at least 6000 mg of calcium a day, my spince

curves, i walk sideways, and feel like i have a giant toothache the length of my spine. the only thing that takes the pain away is more calcium. so this is my life. i hate my job. and i wonder why i am depressed?the only bright thing in my life is my dutch rabbit. he is so gentle and calm, loving, and accepts me with whatever mood i am in at the moment. at least he listens no matter what.every day i try to be the best at whatever i am doing so that i know that i was able to do it before the asthma comes back in force.michelle j

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sorry you have so much to deal with. i say it so often but try to take care of yourself or you won't be any good to the ones around you. it is hard to be a caregiver and hard to be ill yourself. take it day by day and keep us posted on how you are doing. evelynboulderpatch <boulderpatch@...> wrote: howdy,my name is michelle and i am new to discussing health issues with other than family so this will be a new frontier for me.my father had triple bypass surgery a month

after i graduated from college and retired on disability a few years ago. he has sinced developed diabetes, which runs in his side of the family, and has massive mood swings and depression. he may be laughing and joking around 1 minute and very nasty the next.my mother is still recovering from side effects from a tumor on her brain stem and suffers from arthritis and phlebitis. she was hospitalized for 3 weeks the other summer and had to relearn to walk again afterwards. she also has low blood pressure and a slow heart beat. she deals with my father 24 x 7 and is going to have a breakdown someday.my husband was in saudi arabia during Desert Storm and may have Gulf War Syndrome. He has massive memory problems and can't always differentiate from right and wrong. he is fine at work since he has a repetitive job. my sister left home when she was 18 for the Marines. she moved home with 3 kids and a

husband for 8 months and then took off when my parents were not home. she never even said good bye to them. she wants nothing to do with them so it is all on me.my husband and i sold our house in january and bought my parents house so we could help them financially and physically. my husband and i also work opposite shifts so i am the only here at night to handle everything.i also have my own health issues. i am obese, but working on it, have allergies to just about everything, and asthma which will kill me someday. i have had asthma since birth but was diagnosed when i was 13. at that point in time, i had borderline emphasemia. i was given 6 months to live. again, when i was 18 i was given 6 months to live. i am now 41 and only have mild asthma. but it will come back again. it has been a very hard road so far. i have had side effects to the ashtma medication that i was on for 22 years and that is slowing

leeching the calcium out of my spine. if i do not take at least 6000 mg of calcium a day, my spince curves, i walk sideways, and feel like i have a giant toothache the length of my spine. the only thing that takes the pain away is more calcium. so this is my life. i hate my job. and i wonder why i am depressed?the only bright thing in my life is my dutch rabbit. he is so gentle and calm, loving, and accepts me with whatever mood i am in at the moment. at least he listens no matter what.every day i try to be the best at whatever i am doing so that i know that i was able to do it before the asthma comes back in force.michelle jcure cystic fibrosis __________________________________________________

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It's YOUR family and he's YOUR grandson, Don't stop until you feel comfortable with the diagnosis. Here's my story. I had been fighting with Chad's ped. since he was 12 months old about why he wasn't talking much. I got the ole, "Oh he's a boy and of course all children develop at different rates" I didn't feel comfortable, but thought, well she's the Dr. and I'm just the mom. Anyway, after another year of having this nagging feeling in the back of my mind, I finally said enough and I went to her and said, "I know there is something wrong with this child. Please, direct me somewhere, anywhere, where I can see what's up and try to eliminate this feeling that something is wrong." She told me about Birth to Three, and after just a couple of weeks with them, they said, "Autism". After getting the diagnostic impression of autism, I had to go back to Chad's ped. in order to get a referral for him to be tested at WVU for the "Official" diagnosis. When I took Chad in and waited for the Dr. she said, I just don't see how he's autistic. I really don't think he is. Finally I had to be a royal witch with a capital B and tell her, look here's something that finally makes sense. You may not agree with it and I may not fully accept it yet, but it's an answer and it's an answer that makes sense. So just give me the referral, and let me be on my way. We'll let the experts at WVU decide who's right. Of course the Klingberg Center at WVU said, Autism. Therefore, don't let an "Expert" deter you from what you truly believe in your heart to be true. Honestly, if it were me, I would find a DAN Dr. and just have a consultation with them. They see enough kids with autism/aspergers to know. Let them observe him and see what they say!

In my experience, all I can say is:

Fight like HE** until you are satisfied,

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Welcome Astrid. You'll find this is a great place for your questions and

for support.

My name is Kay. I'm a former registered nurse. I had my 2 children vaxed

through their kindergarten vaccines (before I knew better). They're teens

now and haven't been vaxed in about 10 years. They now have a religious

exemption for school, and have never had any problems or questions asked

about that (we live in Kentucky).

You wondered if your children would be " due " for any vaccines at their ages.

Actually at age 11-12 another Tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis vax is given

(Tdap). There is also the HPV vax that is being pushed on girls now (and

probably boys, too, in the near future). Also the meningitis vaccine is

given around this age, too. If a child hasn't had the Hepatitis A vax

before they are preteens, that is given at that time as well. And don't

forget the yearly flu vax.

Adults aren't exempt from having vaccines pushed on us either. Here is the

CDC's latest " recommended " vaccine schedule for adults:

http://www.aafp.org/online/etc/medialib/aafp_org/documents/clinical/immunization\

/adultsched07-08.Par.0001.File.tmp/adultschedule.pdf

Before long they'll be vaccinating people from the cradle to the grave!

Anyway, welcome once again.

Kay

new here

> hi all. i am new to this group and fairly new to not vaxing. i have 3

> children- 9 yr old, 7 yr old and a 6 month old. the 9 yr old and 7 yr

> old are up to date (unfortunatly) with all their vaccinations. after

> the 7 yr olds shot at 5 yr old i wondered why i was doing this.

> neither of them has ever had a reaction. but something in me just

> wondered. i was never one to question anything like this before. i

> never knew i had a choice and never thought to even question the

> validity of a vaccination. so i started reading and looking around. i

> was horrified at all the additives and poisons that are in them. i

> finally decided that they will have no more. thing is- i don't think

> they do, do they??? anyhow we ended up having a 3 child and we have

> decided to not give her any at all. she did however have a vit k shot

> at the hospital. i went back and forth with this one but as there are

> blood clotting disorders in my family we decided to do it. no hep b

> and no others though. we have a good ped who is fine with not vaccing

> and if you do want them actually prefers a delayed schedule. since i

> don't want any at all it is nice to be able to take the baby and know

> i am not going to fight with someone about it. ya know? well, i am

> looking forward to having a place to ask questions and get more

> support. so far only my mom and the doc and 2 friends know we are not

> vaccinating the baby. i just don't want the arguments. of course if

> they ask i will tell them the truth but i'm not offering out that

> info just yet. :)

>

>

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