Sue

[Guest guest]

Christa,

Thank you for your note. Does your son have congentile

scoliosis? How is he doing now? Did he have to have

surgery?

I'm going to look into the Early Intervention program.

Thank you again.

--- cristab@... wrote:

>

>

> Sue,

> My older son went through early intervention also.

> I live in California and

> it was offered through our county. Insurance does

> not matter. I had a ppo

> and the county paid for for 3 years of PT

> and speech therapy. I would

> contact the county you live in or the school

> district to find out the info.

> Also if you have a Pediatric PT place near you they

> can also give you the name

> of the person to contact.

>

> Crista

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Sue,

> Does your child have Scoliosis and Kyphosis? Or just Scoliosis?

>

> Crista

She has both.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Hi Sue,

> My older son had Kyphosis at 23 degreees due to hypotonia which is

low muscle

> tone. He was in PT and speech for 2 years. He grew out of the

Kyphosis and

> is completely normal and age appropriate now. He might be a little

clumsy

> sometimes but I also put him in Gymnastics and swimming to help

build muscles.

> , my younger son is now 14 months old with Idiopathic

Infantile

> Scoliosis. He was at 50 gerees at 4 months old, he is now at 23 in

his 3rd cast.

> has no delays and he is actually my wild boy. Crawling

and walking

> early. The cast has not stopped him at all! Does your child have

congenital

> or idiopathic? I know I already read it but I can't remember.

Sorry.

>

> Crista

She has congentile and kyphosis.

[Guest guest]

> We miss you! What's up?

Just busy with life, taking advantage of finally being able to drive my car

again, hitting the laundromat daily until I finally get all caught up.

Yesterday I finally got my sewing machines set up again and oiled up so I

can get started on the big pile of mending. Fighting with then waiting (and

waiting, then waiting some more) for the landlord to come up and fix the

oven door again (I gave up waiting and fixed it myself yesterday).

I'm also getting OUT and doing a lot of walking when the weather is good -

spent over an hour at the park this morning, most of it walking, part of it

sitting on a bench reading.

Oh, I can't wait until Spring hits! Today's warmth (55) is only going to

last one more day, then back into the low 30's and snow again.

Sue in NJ

way behind on every mailing list

[Guest guest]

> I am sad to hear about your father. They will be in my prayers.

Thanks.

> Just

don't forget to take care of you in all of it.

I'm the one sitting 1200 miles away chewing my nails, running up a gigantic

long distance phone bill calling a few times a day and wondering what's

going on!

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I was reading about the foot and joint issues earlier. I just want

to (nag) be sure you have proper footwear before you start tearing

up the pavements.

But I'm preaching to the choir, aren't I?

Kim

> My next goal is to hit 250 by Christmas. It's not that I'm that

pessimistic,

> just a realist. I was in the 260's for 3 years, even while *on* my

food plan

> most of the time. Maybe now that I can get decent exercise back in

I can

> finally get out of the 260's.

>

>

>

> Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

> But I'm preaching to the choir, aren't I?

Considering I've been going to podiatrists and have worn orthopedic shoes (when possible) and orthotics since mid-childhood and I knew my current podiatrist when his father was my doc and we were both in highschool, yeah.

Rockport walking shoes and I are old friends, too, and in 2 weeks I get a new pair - yippee!! I just hope they're still making the lightweight ones I love in the wide (10 1/2 EEE) size I need.

Sue in NJ

who misses Prevention's Walking magazine and subscribed from first through last issue

[Guest guest]

Sue, I'm sure we all send you huge support. It IS overwhelming - so many variables that differ child to child, so many "maybes", so much the best doctors still don't know, so much science. BUT, yeah, we're all former teenagers! If we can do it, you can too.

Abigail

Re: Re: Counting Rules/teenage regression

This concert sounds brilliant, and you have just made me smile widely.

I am feeling overwhelmed by all there is to do and understand, and also by the wealth of knowledge that many of you have, and feeling very lacking. Then I read the excitement about the 70s teenybopper concert, and realise that you are just 40 something UK Mums (like me) who can get giggly about swooning over Les McKeown. Somehow it has made me feel a bit better.

Have a brill time, and scream for me too.

Sue (UK)

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue

Glad to have you here (swoon Donny LOL)

We were all where you are once, what we did was read a LOT, ask questions all the time and then ask them again till we unbderstood. You are mpore than welcome to do the same.

The only silly questions are ones you don;t ask and get confused about

Mandi in Dorset

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May I post a link to this group from my new group, in case anyone with 100+ pounds needs extra encouragement?

:-) I'm not Sue, but since I am one of the lovely co-owners can I say "yes" LOL!

(( Ok, I will let Sue answer too ))

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[Guest guest]

I just read your post and just feel my heart going out to you. You have tons of

friends here on this board. You can certainly email me privately if you ever

need a listening ear.

Kindest Regards,

in TN

stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote:

--Thanks Grace--

Great words of wisdom. I am hoping it all comes together.

Thanks for your post.

Kathy

- In , " suzyqsoblue " <SuzyQsoblue@...>

wrote:

>

> Oh Boy, These subjects hit home hard, and sent me reeling.....

>

> My children are 20, 18, 15, and 10 ALL have OCD, depression,

> anxiety, some with tourettes and very vocal tic's,(the boy's..20

and

> 15) other's with severe phobia's, (mostly the girls 18 and 10)....

> They all see Dr's and are on medication.. I keep trying to get them

> counceling but my insurance only pays for basic which has done them

> NO good...they need a specialist or someone who knows SOMETHING

> about OCD and ERP.

> I have also had Ocd and depression since I was a child.....

> My husband was abusive, he said he couldn't handle the " stress " and

> he became even more so, so I had to leave him back in 2001..(of

> course the kid's OCD was all my fault since it was in my family, so

> of course, I should feel guilty, and I should handle what I'de done

> to them).....

> I carry Guilt around like a best friend in my side pocket, so that

> was just a side dish....

>

> Leaving him was the best thing I could have done,(He started to

> become abusive towards the children) but I feel like I'm never

doing

> good enough,

> never can give the kid's enough, I'm scared a lot...making the

right

> decisions etc, and of course then I end up battling my own

> depression.

> My 2 youngest are having enough trouble that there on Homebound

> schooling through the school district, where they send a teacher

out

> to the house twice a week...

> The good news is my 2 oldest are in community college, and where

> they may run into a few bumps, are doing well...they come to me for

> advice if their schedule seems overwhelming...Neither are driving

> yet, so they take the bus, but they are doing well, as I push them

> more towards there own responsibilities....(although they both

still

> live at home)

> But I'm just so scared... My 15 yr old has the most problems, I

> worry what will happen to him...Then there's the other

> people.. " friends " .. " caring people that say JUST PUSH THEM "

> or " They'll snap out of it "

> I have no family at all....all are gone...I feel so alone.....

> Thanks so much for listening.......

> Sue

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I am the mom with the two DD w/ these disorders.

> > > > At any rate, my husband has had anxiety his entire life.

> > > > Yes, he has had at times counseling. yes, we have had

> > > > marriage counseling. We have done marriage groups, etc.

> > > > We have had one DD in counseling for anxiety for TWO years.

> > > > During that time, she was put on prozac and started pulling

her

> > > > eyelashes and hair out. She tried 5 SSRI's, none worked, they

> all

> > > > made her hyper. THen we had to have counseling to deal with

all

> > > > of that. The counselor a PHD level psychologist was always

> > > > saying things like 1.) you are not consistent enough. (with

> > > > counseling)

> > > > (I have three kids under eight (she is a twin actuallY),

> > > > my hubby works all the time, we have one income, not tons of

> > > > $$ for copays, etc. I tired for two years to go weekly, quite

> the

> > > > hassel and expense. My other kids tired of waiting in the

> waiting

> > > > room weekly.

> > > > 2.)you husband is anxious, she will not get better unless

> > > > he goes to weekly therapy. I informed him of what she said,

> and he

> > > > was offended. Yes, he is anxious, yes he twirls his hair, yes

> he

> > > had

> > > > counseling in the past. Yes, we are currently going to

> marriage

> > > > therapy weekly.

> > > > 3.) I can't change things if things at home don't change.!!!

> > > > Do we have a perfect family? No. Do we have a perfect

marriage?

> > > > No. Do we agree, 100 percent of the time on discipline. No.

> > > >

> > > > ARE WE THE CAUSE OF THE OCD AND HAIR PULLING??? WILL FAMILY

> > THERAPY

> > > > IRRADICT THIS???? > Idealy it probably should be a mixture of

> > > therpay and medications.

> > > > I am tired of feeling like things I do or don't do cause IS

IT

> > OKAY

> > > TO USE THE RISPERDOL, OR WOULD SIMPLE

> > > > ATTENDING MORE TALK THERAPY, ADDING FAMILY THERAPY, WOULD ALL

> > THAT

> > > > WORK??? I have never spent more money and time to feel like

a

> > > total

> > > > failure, and like its my fault. Attending that many therapy

> > > sessions

> > > > actually stresses us out and we can't afford it. Since i have

> two

> > > > kids with anxiety and a hubby, that would be almost 100.00 in

> > just

> > > > copays weekly.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone else go thru this or have thoughts????

> > > this. I sede

> > > > kids in much worse shape (parents dead, major trauma) and

they

> > > don't

> > > > have OCD, they don't pull their hair. Hard for me to buy into

> > > > the fact that perhaps " my hubby and I dont agree 100 percent

> on

> > > > things-- who does? " therefore, my daughter needs risperdol

and

> > > pulls

> > > > her hair out. I have done nothing but be there for my kids.

I

> > stay

> > > > at home, quit my job, reduced our cost of living, sacrificed

> > > > everything for them. i find the fact that its my fault, or

> > someone

> > > > aying that offensive.

> > > > Kathy

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I just read your post and just feel my heart going out to you. You have tons of

friends here on this board. You can certainly email me privately if you ever

need a listening ear.

Kindest Regards,

in TN

stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote:

--Thanks Grace--

Great words of wisdom. I am hoping it all comes together.

Thanks for your post.

Kathy

- In , " suzyqsoblue " <SuzyQsoblue@...>

wrote:

>

> Oh Boy, These subjects hit home hard, and sent me reeling.....

>

> My children are 20, 18, 15, and 10 ALL have OCD, depression,

> anxiety, some with tourettes and very vocal tic's,(the boy's..20

and

> 15) other's with severe phobia's, (mostly the girls 18 and 10)....

> They all see Dr's and are on medication.. I keep trying to get them

> counceling but my insurance only pays for basic which has done them

> NO good...they need a specialist or someone who knows SOMETHING

> about OCD and ERP.

> I have also had Ocd and depression since I was a child.....

> My husband was abusive, he said he couldn't handle the " stress " and

> he became even more so, so I had to leave him back in 2001..(of

> course the kid's OCD was all my fault since it was in my family, so

> of course, I should feel guilty, and I should handle what I'de done

> to them).....

> I carry Guilt around like a best friend in my side pocket, so that

> was just a side dish....

>

> Leaving him was the best thing I could have done,(He started to

> become abusive towards the children) but I feel like I'm never

doing

> good enough,

> never can give the kid's enough, I'm scared a lot...making the

right

> decisions etc, and of course then I end up battling my own

> depression.

> My 2 youngest are having enough trouble that there on Homebound

> schooling through the school district, where they send a teacher

out

> to the house twice a week...

> The good news is my 2 oldest are in community college, and where

> they may run into a few bumps, are doing well...they come to me for

> advice if their schedule seems overwhelming...Neither are driving

> yet, so they take the bus, but they are doing well, as I push them

> more towards there own responsibilities....(although they both

still

> live at home)

> But I'm just so scared... My 15 yr old has the most problems, I

> worry what will happen to him...Then there's the other

> people.. " friends " .. " caring people that say JUST PUSH THEM "

> or " They'll snap out of it "

> I have no family at all....all are gone...I feel so alone.....

> Thanks so much for listening.......

> Sue

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I am the mom with the two DD w/ these disorders.

> > > > At any rate, my husband has had anxiety his entire life.

> > > > Yes, he has had at times counseling. yes, we have had

> > > > marriage counseling. We have done marriage groups, etc.

> > > > We have had one DD in counseling for anxiety for TWO years.

> > > > During that time, she was put on prozac and started pulling

her

> > > > eyelashes and hair out. She tried 5 SSRI's, none worked, they

> all

> > > > made her hyper. THen we had to have counseling to deal with

all

> > > > of that. The counselor a PHD level psychologist was always

> > > > saying things like 1.) you are not consistent enough. (with

> > > > counseling)

> > > > (I have three kids under eight (she is a twin actuallY),

> > > > my hubby works all the time, we have one income, not tons of

> > > > $$ for copays, etc. I tired for two years to go weekly, quite

> the

> > > > hassel and expense. My other kids tired of waiting in the

> waiting

> > > > room weekly.

> > > > 2.)you husband is anxious, she will not get better unless

> > > > he goes to weekly therapy. I informed him of what she said,

> and he

> > > > was offended. Yes, he is anxious, yes he twirls his hair, yes

> he

> > > had

> > > > counseling in the past. Yes, we are currently going to

> marriage

> > > > therapy weekly.

> > > > 3.) I can't change things if things at home don't change.!!!

> > > > Do we have a perfect family? No. Do we have a perfect

marriage?

> > > > No. Do we agree, 100 percent of the time on discipline. No.

> > > >

> > > > ARE WE THE CAUSE OF THE OCD AND HAIR PULLING??? WILL FAMILY

> > THERAPY

> > > > IRRADICT THIS???? > Idealy it probably should be a mixture of

> > > therpay and medications.

> > > > I am tired of feeling like things I do or don't do cause IS

IT

> > OKAY

> > > TO USE THE RISPERDOL, OR WOULD SIMPLE

> > > > ATTENDING MORE TALK THERAPY, ADDING FAMILY THERAPY, WOULD ALL

> > THAT

> > > > WORK??? I have never spent more money and time to feel like

a

> > > total

> > > > failure, and like its my fault. Attending that many therapy

> > > sessions

> > > > actually stresses us out and we can't afford it. Since i have

> two

> > > > kids with anxiety and a hubby, that would be almost 100.00 in

> > just

> > > > copays weekly.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone else go thru this or have thoughts????

> > > this. I sede

> > > > kids in much worse shape (parents dead, major trauma) and

they

> > > don't

> > > > have OCD, they don't pull their hair. Hard for me to buy into

> > > > the fact that perhaps " my hubby and I dont agree 100 percent

> on

> > > > things-- who does? " therefore, my daughter needs risperdol

and

> > > pulls

> > > > her hair out. I have done nothing but be there for my kids.

I

> > stay

> > > > at home, quit my job, reduced our cost of living, sacrificed

> > > > everything for them. i find the fact that its my fault, or

> > someone

> > > > aying that offensive.

> > > > Kathy

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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--

Sue,

We are all here if you need to write. We are in simliar situations,

all trying to cope.

Kathy

- In , c ward <cward_ri@...> wrote:

>

> I just read your post and just feel my heart going out to you. You

have tons of friends here on this board. You can certainly email me

privately if you ever need a listening ear.

> Kindest Regards,

> in TN

>

> stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote:

> --Thanks Grace--

> Great words of wisdom. I am hoping it all comes together.

> Thanks for your post.

> Kathy

>

> - In , " suzyqsoblue " <SuzyQsoblue@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Oh Boy, These subjects hit home hard, and sent me reeling.....

> >

> > My children are 20, 18, 15, and 10 ALL have OCD, depression,

> > anxiety, some with tourettes and very vocal tic's,(the boy's..20

> and

> > 15) other's with severe phobia's, (mostly the girls 18 and 10)....

> > They all see Dr's and are on medication.. I keep trying to get

them

> > counceling but my insurance only pays for basic which has done

them

> > NO good...they need a specialist or someone who knows SOMETHING

> > about OCD and ERP.

> > I have also had Ocd and depression since I was a child.....

> > My husband was abusive, he said he couldn't handle the " stress "

and

> > he became even more so, so I had to leave him back in 2001..(of

> > course the kid's OCD was all my fault since it was in my family,

so

> > of course, I should feel guilty, and I should handle what I'de

done

> > to them).....

> > I carry Guilt around like a best friend in my side pocket, so

that

> > was just a side dish....

> >

> > Leaving him was the best thing I could have done,(He started to

> > become abusive towards the children) but I feel like I'm never

> doing

> > good enough,

> > never can give the kid's enough, I'm scared a lot...making the

> right

> > decisions etc, and of course then I end up battling my own

> > depression.

> > My 2 youngest are having enough trouble that there on Homebound

> > schooling through the school district, where they send a teacher

> out

> > to the house twice a week...

> > The good news is my 2 oldest are in community college, and where

> > they may run into a few bumps, are doing well...they come to me

for

> > advice if their schedule seems overwhelming...Neither are driving

> > yet, so they take the bus, but they are doing well, as I push

them

> > more towards there own responsibilities....(although they both

> still

> > live at home)

> > But I'm just so scared... My 15 yr old has the most problems, I

> > worry what will happen to him...Then there's the other

> > people.. " friends " .. " caring people that say JUST PUSH THEM "

> > or " They'll snap out of it "

> > I have no family at all....all are gone...I feel so alone.....

> > Thanks so much for listening.......

> > Sue

> >

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am the mom with the two DD w/ these disorders.

> > > > > At any rate, my husband has had anxiety his entire life.

> > > > > Yes, he has had at times counseling. yes, we have had

> > > > > marriage counseling. We have done marriage groups, etc.

> > > > > We have had one DD in counseling for anxiety for TWO years.

> > > > > During that time, she was put on prozac and started pulling

> her

> > > > > eyelashes and hair out. She tried 5 SSRI's, none worked,

they

> > all

> > > > > made her hyper. THen we had to have counseling to deal with

> all

> > > > > of that. The counselor a PHD level psychologist was always

> > > > > saying things like 1.) you are not consistent enough. (with

> > > > > counseling)

> > > > > (I have three kids under eight (she is a twin actuallY),

> > > > > my hubby works all the time, we have one income, not tons of

> > > > > $$ for copays, etc. I tired for two years to go weekly,

quite

> > the

> > > > > hassel and expense. My other kids tired of waiting in the

> > waiting

> > > > > room weekly.

> > > > > 2.)you husband is anxious, she will not get better unless

> > > > > he goes to weekly therapy. I informed him of what she said,

> > and he

> > > > > was offended. Yes, he is anxious, yes he twirls his hair,

yes

> > he

> > > > had

> > > > > counseling in the past. Yes, we are currently going to

> > marriage

> > > > > therapy weekly.

> > > > > 3.) I can't change things if things at home don't change.!!!

> > > > > Do we have a perfect family? No. Do we have a perfect

> marriage?

> > > > > No. Do we agree, 100 percent of the time on discipline. No.

> > > > >

> > > > > ARE WE THE CAUSE OF THE OCD AND HAIR PULLING??? WILL FAMILY

> > > THERAPY

> > > > > IRRADICT THIS???? > Idealy it probably should be a mixture

of

> > > > therpay and medications.

> > > > > I am tired of feeling like things I do or don't do cause IS

> IT

> > > OKAY

> > > > TO USE THE RISPERDOL, OR WOULD SIMPLE

> > > > > ATTENDING MORE TALK THERAPY, ADDING FAMILY THERAPY, WOULD

ALL

> > > THAT

> > > > > WORK??? I have never spent more money and time to feel like

> a

> > > > total

> > > > > failure, and like its my fault. Attending that many therapy

> > > > sessions

> > > > > actually stresses us out and we can't afford it. Since i

have

> > two

> > > > > kids with anxiety and a hubby, that would be almost 100.00

in

> > > just

> > > > > copays weekly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyone else go thru this or have thoughts????

> > > > this. I sede

> > > > > kids in much worse shape (parents dead, major trauma) and

> they

> > > > don't

> > > > > have OCD, they don't pull their hair. Hard for me to buy

into

> > > > > the fact that perhaps " my hubby and I dont agree 100

percent

> > on

> > > > > things-- who does? " therefore, my daughter needs risperdol

> and

> > > > pulls

> > > > > her hair out. I have done nothing but be there for my kids.

> I

> > > stay

> > > > > at home, quit my job, reduced our cost of living,

sacrificed

> > > > > everything for them. i find the fact that its my fault, or

> > > someone

> > > > > aying that offensive.

> > > > > Kathy

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

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--

Sue,

We are all here if you need to write. We are in simliar situations,

all trying to cope.

Kathy

- In , c ward <cward_ri@...> wrote:

>

> I just read your post and just feel my heart going out to you. You

have tons of friends here on this board. You can certainly email me

privately if you ever need a listening ear.

> Kindest Regards,

> in TN

>

> stinkydogkid <stinkydogkid@...> wrote:

> --Thanks Grace--

> Great words of wisdom. I am hoping it all comes together.

> Thanks for your post.

> Kathy

>

> - In , " suzyqsoblue " <SuzyQsoblue@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Oh Boy, These subjects hit home hard, and sent me reeling.....

> >

> > My children are 20, 18, 15, and 10 ALL have OCD, depression,

> > anxiety, some with tourettes and very vocal tic's,(the boy's..20

> and

> > 15) other's with severe phobia's, (mostly the girls 18 and 10)....

> > They all see Dr's and are on medication.. I keep trying to get

them

> > counceling but my insurance only pays for basic which has done

them

> > NO good...they need a specialist or someone who knows SOMETHING

> > about OCD and ERP.

> > I have also had Ocd and depression since I was a child.....

> > My husband was abusive, he said he couldn't handle the " stress "

and

> > he became even more so, so I had to leave him back in 2001..(of

> > course the kid's OCD was all my fault since it was in my family,

so

> > of course, I should feel guilty, and I should handle what I'de

done

> > to them).....

> > I carry Guilt around like a best friend in my side pocket, so

that

> > was just a side dish....

> >

> > Leaving him was the best thing I could have done,(He started to

> > become abusive towards the children) but I feel like I'm never

> doing

> > good enough,

> > never can give the kid's enough, I'm scared a lot...making the

> right

> > decisions etc, and of course then I end up battling my own

> > depression.

> > My 2 youngest are having enough trouble that there on Homebound

> > schooling through the school district, where they send a teacher

> out

> > to the house twice a week...

> > The good news is my 2 oldest are in community college, and where

> > they may run into a few bumps, are doing well...they come to me

for

> > advice if their schedule seems overwhelming...Neither are driving

> > yet, so they take the bus, but they are doing well, as I push

them

> > more towards there own responsibilities....(although they both

> still

> > live at home)

> > But I'm just so scared... My 15 yr old has the most problems, I

> > worry what will happen to him...Then there's the other

> > people.. " friends " .. " caring people that say JUST PUSH THEM "

> > or " They'll snap out of it "

> > I have no family at all....all are gone...I feel so alone.....

> > Thanks so much for listening.......

> > Sue

> >

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am the mom with the two DD w/ these disorders.

> > > > > At any rate, my husband has had anxiety his entire life.

> > > > > Yes, he has had at times counseling. yes, we have had

> > > > > marriage counseling. We have done marriage groups, etc.

> > > > > We have had one DD in counseling for anxiety for TWO years.

> > > > > During that time, she was put on prozac and started pulling

> her

> > > > > eyelashes and hair out. She tried 5 SSRI's, none worked,

they

> > all

> > > > > made her hyper. THen we had to have counseling to deal with

> all

> > > > > of that. The counselor a PHD level psychologist was always

> > > > > saying things like 1.) you are not consistent enough. (with

> > > > > counseling)

> > > > > (I have three kids under eight (she is a twin actuallY),

> > > > > my hubby works all the time, we have one income, not tons of

> > > > > $$ for copays, etc. I tired for two years to go weekly,

quite

> > the

> > > > > hassel and expense. My other kids tired of waiting in the

> > waiting

> > > > > room weekly.

> > > > > 2.)you husband is anxious, she will not get better unless

> > > > > he goes to weekly therapy. I informed him of what she said,

> > and he

> > > > > was offended. Yes, he is anxious, yes he twirls his hair,

yes

> > he

> > > > had

> > > > > counseling in the past. Yes, we are currently going to

> > marriage

> > > > > therapy weekly.

> > > > > 3.) I can't change things if things at home don't change.!!!

> > > > > Do we have a perfect family? No. Do we have a perfect

> marriage?

> > > > > No. Do we agree, 100 percent of the time on discipline. No.

> > > > >

> > > > > ARE WE THE CAUSE OF THE OCD AND HAIR PULLING??? WILL FAMILY

> > > THERAPY

> > > > > IRRADICT THIS???? > Idealy it probably should be a mixture

of

> > > > therpay and medications.

> > > > > I am tired of feeling like things I do or don't do cause IS

> IT

> > > OKAY

> > > > TO USE THE RISPERDOL, OR WOULD SIMPLE

> > > > > ATTENDING MORE TALK THERAPY, ADDING FAMILY THERAPY, WOULD

ALL

> > > THAT

> > > > > WORK??? I have never spent more money and time to feel like

> a

> > > > total

> > > > > failure, and like its my fault. Attending that many therapy

> > > > sessions

> > > > > actually stresses us out and we can't afford it. Since i

have

> > two

> > > > > kids with anxiety and a hubby, that would be almost 100.00

in

> > > just

> > > > > copays weekly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyone else go thru this or have thoughts????

> > > > this. I sede

> > > > > kids in much worse shape (parents dead, major trauma) and

> they

> > > > don't

> > > > > have OCD, they don't pull their hair. Hard for me to buy

into

> > > > > the fact that perhaps " my hubby and I dont agree 100

percent

> > on

> > > > > things-- who does? " therefore, my daughter needs risperdol

> and

> > > > pulls

> > > > > her hair out. I have done nothing but be there for my kids.

> I

> > > stay

> > > > > at home, quit my job, reduced our cost of living,

sacrificed

> > > > > everything for them. i find the fact that its my fault, or

> > > someone

> > > > > aying that offensive.

> > > > > Kathy

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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Yes. I am waiting to hear of a job with a local Hallmark Shop. Hopefully I will know some thing this week. I also have an orientation thing set up next week for Good Will Industries. SueBecky Mullins <missbucky@...> wrote: Hi Sue, I am so sorry that you are having such a hard time. I know that can leave you feeling very overwhelmed. Maybe the lady was having a bad

day..even if she was thats no excuse. I sure do hope that something turns around for you. Do you have any jobs that you are looking into? I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed for you that something will open up for you. I hope you have a great day.hope 2 talk 2 u soon! Have a wonderful day! (Kay Rep) Life Altering Decisions I am still looking for employment. I am working with the Ohio Beaureau For Vocational Rehabilitation to find work. They had me hooked up with a job vendor, who wasn't helping me at all. So I asked for a switch to another lady that I worked with yrs ago. Deb was a real go getter type. She and I were a team, until she was let go due to budget cuts. Then I was assigned to another young lady, it took about 2 months to get an appointment with her. One app was called for weather, and 2 others for different reasons. I had an appointment with her yesterday to fill out an app. I expected to be there for about an hr. I was there for about 10 minutes. No app was filed out. She just gave me 2 places to check out for employment. I asked if there was anything else she needed to

talk about. She made a comment about a friend giving me a ride to her office instead of my taking the city bus. She asked if I got a job in Akron, will he supply the transportation. I said if the price was right he might. But I have no intention of asking. He and his wife were just doing me a kindness since I had no idea of where I was going, and he did. I then asked about setting up a follow up appointment, and she said lets make it for July 3 since that will be her last day. She is quitting her job. I said okay. I asked if there was anything else, and she said no. Today I got a rather nasty email from her. She stated that for her to come into the office for 5-10 minutes was a waste of her time and gas. She also made a comment about my getting a ride instead of taking the bus. She sugested that may be I need a transportation coach to teach me to ride buses. I ride buses every day, I am not very famialiar with alot of the routes. Transportation coaches are mainly for

people who are mentally retarded. I let her know, exactly how I felt. I so I have an orientation set up for next week with Good Will Industries. Unless Professionals comes to their senses and gets Deb back, I will NEVER go back to them. Sue betterbodybuddies/?yguid=137091429 http://www.peternoone.com. betterbodybuddies/?yguid=137091429 http://www.peternoone.com.

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I just got what I felt was a very half (*))'d apology from this Professional person. She is leaving go head up a local link of a nationally well known chain business colleges (In admition department).SueSue <sweetsueohio2002@...> wrote: Yes. I am waiting to hear of a job with a local Hallmark Shop. Hopefully I will know some thing this week. I also have an orientation thing set up next week for Good Will Industries. SueBecky Mullins

<missbuckycharter (DOT) net> wrote: Hi Sue, I am so sorry that you are having such a hard time. I know that can leave you feeling very overwhelmed. Maybe the lady was having a bad day..even if she was thats no excuse. I sure do hope that something turns around for you. Do you have any jobs that you are looking into? I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed for you that something will open up for you. I hope you have a great day.hope 2 talk 2 u soon! Have a wonderful day! (Kay Rep) Life Altering Decisions I am still looking for employment. I am working with the Ohio Beaureau For Vocational Rehabilitation to find work. They had me hooked up with a job vendor, who wasn't helping me at all. So I asked for a switch to another lady that I worked with yrs ago. Deb was a real go getter type. She and I were a team, until she was let go due to budget cuts. Then I was assigned

to another young lady, it took about 2 months to get an appointment with her. One app was called for weather, and 2 others for different reasons. I had an appointment with her yesterday to fill out an app. I expected to be there for about an hr. I was there for about 10 minutes. No app was filed out. She just gave me 2 places to check out for employment. I asked if there was anything else she needed to talk about. She made a comment about a friend giving me a ride to her office instead of my taking the city bus. She asked if I got a job in Akron, will he supply the transportation. I said if the price was right he might. But I have no intention of asking. He and his wife were just doing me a kindness since I had no idea of where I was going, and he did. I then asked about setting up a follow up appointment, and she said lets make it for July 3 since that will be her last day. She is quitting her job. I said okay. I asked if there was anything else, and she

said no. Today I got a rather nasty email from her. She stated that for her to come into the office for 5-10 minutes was a waste of her time and gas. She also made a comment about my getting a ride instead of taking the bus. She sugested that may be I need a transportation coach to teach me to ride buses. I ride buses every day, I am not very famialiar with alot of the routes. Transportation coaches are mainly for people who are mentally retarded. I let her know, exactly how I felt. I so I have an orientation set up for next week with Good Will Industries. Unless Professionals comes to their senses and gets Deb back, I will NEVER go back to them. Sue betterbodybuddies/?yguid=137091429 http://www.peternoone.com. betterbodybuddies/?yguid=137091429 http://www.peternoone.com. betterbodybuddies/?yguid=137091429 http://www.peternoone.com.

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has anyone ever heard of Briwn Mackey Business School, thats where she is going. sueSue <sweetsueohio2002@...> wrote: I just got what I felt was a very half (*))'d apology from this Professional person. She is leaving go head up a local link of a nationally well known chain business colleges (In admition department).SueSue <sweetsueohio2002 > wrote: Yes. I am waiting to hear of a job with a local Hallmark Shop. Hopefully I will know some thing this week. I also have an orientation thing set up next week for Good Will Industries. SueBecky Mullins <missbuckycharter (DOT) net> wrote: Hi Sue, I am so sorry that you are having such a hard time. I know that can leave you feeling very overwhelmed. Maybe the lady was having a bad day..even if she was thats no excuse. I sure do hope that something turns around for you. Do you have any jobs that you are looking into? I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed for you that something will open up for you. I hope you have a great day.hope 2 talk 2 u soon! Have a wonderful day! (Kay Rep) Life Altering Decisions I am still looking for employment. I am working with the Ohio Beaureau For Vocational Rehabilitation to find

work. They had me hooked up with a job vendor, who wasn't helping me at all. So I asked for a switch to another lady that I worked with yrs ago. Deb was a real go getter type. She and I were a team, until she was let go due to budget cuts. Then I was assigned to another young lady, it took about 2 months to get an appointment with her. One app was called for weather, and 2 others for different reasons. I had an appointment with her yesterday to fill out an app. I expected to be there for about an hr. I was there for about 10 minutes. No app was filed out. She just gave me 2 places to check out for employment. I asked if there was anything else she needed to talk about. She made a comment about a friend giving me a ride to her office instead of my taking the city bus. She asked if I got a job in Akron, will he supply the transportation. I said if the price was right he might. But I have no intention of asking. He and his wife were just doing me a kindness

since I had no idea of where I was going, and he did. I then asked about setting up a follow up appointment, and she said lets make it for July 3 since that will be her last day. She is quitting her job. I said okay. I asked if there was anything else, and she said no. Today I got a rather nasty email from her. She stated that for her to come into the office for 5-10 minutes was a waste of her time and gas. She also made a comment about my getting a ride instead of taking the bus. She sugested that may be I need a transportation coach to teach me to ride buses. I ride buses every day, I am not very famialiar with alot of the routes. Transportation coaches are mainly for people who are mentally retarded. I let her know, exactly how I felt. I so I have an orientation set up for next week with Good Will Industries. Unless Professionals comes to their senses and gets Deb back, I will NEVER go back to them. Sue betterbodybuddies/?yguid=137091429 http://www.peternoone.com. betterbodybuddies/?yguid=137091429 http://www.peternoone.com. betterbodybuddies/?yguid=137091429 http://www.peternoone.com. betterbodybuddies/?yguid=137091429 http://www.peternoone.com.

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Sue,

How long have you been using the ESP soaps? Just wondering about a

time frame...i cant wait to try the orange cleaner...

Best

Holly

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I think the dehumidifiers are working wonders for us! It has been

> 5 weeks.

> Like Jeanine, are big problems seem to revolve around clothes,

> the laptop, and the cars.

> My questions for Jeff or anyone is whether it is best for me to

> stop keeping my clothes in plastic bags in the plastic bins? I

mean,

> they are not getting dehumidified there. Is it best for me to go

back

> to hanging clothes and using a dresser like a normal person? Can

you

> imagine? LOL

> We have our clothes packed up in bags that have CO2 in them, and

> then packed in boxes and have been stacked in the garage. Is it

best

> to keep all the cotton clothes bagged up and away from live mites

so

> they cannot breed in them, or is it best to bring all of the

clothes

> into the house so that they get treated by the low humidity, too?

> Thank you for your input, Pamela

>

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Two months so far - first month once a day & the last month twice a

day. The 2x day really speeds up the process - thanks, Z!

Sue,

How long have you been using the ESP soaps? Just wondering about a

time frame...i cant wait to try the orange cleaner...

Best

Holly

[Guest guest]

Awesome! Im so glad that it is giving such good results. So, when you

use it 2x a day, does that mean that you just lather up with the soap,

and rinse it off then use the serum? The baby products are awesome!

They smell really good, and clean the babys skin so good. But i tell

you its not easy to hold a chubby soapy squirmy baby

>

> Sue,

> How long have you been using the ESP soaps? Just wondering about a

> time frame...i cant wait to try the orange cleaner...

> Best

>

> Holly

>

[Guest guest]

I bathed in the Instant Ocean articial sea salt, often adding a

capful of the concentrated Orange Plus to my oversized tub. Any salt,

borax, essential oil combo bath or Bob's spice baths recommended by

many here, or Trisha's bath suggestions that come with the New Hope

kit should be helpful. Believe they draw out mites & toxins & prep

the skin for application of the next step.

Method 1 - After a bath, I'd shower to rinse, soap up with the New

Hope soap, let it dry the 5 minutes & rinse off in the shower. Often

used the hairdryer while out of the shower to speed the drying stage.

Then I'd blot lightly with trashable paper towels & apply serum or

balm (both spread more easily on warm damp skin).

Method 2 - Found using the soap as body masque per Trisha's help

sheet worked best for me at the point the " mites " were active. That

involves the bath, the rinse in the shower, the soap up & letting the

soap dry on the skin before you dress, then repeating the process the

next day. Two or three days of this, then two days of bath, rinse,

soap up let dry 5 minutes, rinse & apply serum or balm. That really

nailed it for me.

After a couple weeks of the soap body masque routine of Method 2,

went back to the straight routine of Method 1, alternating serum &

balm through both. Timeframe - 2+ weeks of Method 1 followed by 2

weeks of Method 2 followed by a week of Method 1.

Then changed my tack by adding a far-infrared dry sauna found locally

secondhand on Craigslist. Substituted the sauna for the bath step.

Firmly believe it's tremendously more effective on more levels for

me. Just shy of 3 weeks doing the sauna twice a day (morning &

evening) for 45 minutes to an hour each time. Now it's sauna, rinse

in shower, soap up, step back into sauna to dry the soap, shower to

rinse off soap, back in sauna to dry slightly, apply Serum & wait for

it to be absorbed another 5 minutes or so & exit sauna. Repeating 12

hours later.

No baths since we set up the sauna. Still use the Body Balm after the

Serum's penetrated on my hands. Apply the Lotion Jar in a Bar to face

& neck after the Serum step to seal it in.

Trisha's improved the Serum by adding extras & it's now twice as

potent for me. Highly recommend her entire line!

As usual, probably more than you asked to hear but I appreciate

detailed reports myself & answer as completely as I can!

For anyone who hasn't heard of Trisha Springstead's ESP Botanicals

New Hope line, here's the link:

http://www.espbotanicals.com/main_line_new_hope.html

Can imagine Savannah poses a similar challenge to you as a greased

pig contest does! Thanks for sharing her first " mama " - you both gave

me an all-day smile! Best wishes, Sue

Sue,

How long have you been using the ESP soaps? Just wondering about a

time frame...i cant wait to try the orange cleaner...

Best

Holly

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Hi Sue!That's the one!I just started using this about a week or a week and a half ago, and it looks like I have hardly used any at all. A little bit goes a long way!Hope you get to try it as it really does speed up the skin purging process. It did for us!Not to mention that it smells heavenly! Hubby even likes it! I have never been to their website as I found this at our local Healthy Life market. Must check it out!All my best to you dear!TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "Sue" <sue@...>Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:55:31 -0000<bird mites >Subject: Re: cinnamon brooms Found Khepra's website & their organic massage oils:http://khepracare.com/Merchant5/merchant.mvc (First product) Is the one you use the " Essence of the Nile " ? How exotic! How long does a bottle last for you? Thanks for the tip, Trly! Best wishes, Sue Hi all, Just updating. I am so almost done with these things. Whot!!! I started soakin my cloths, washed, and hung up over door ways. Yesterday there was a small amount of crawling. Today there is nothing. I shortend my bathing and shower schedule this morning and I am still‚ a bugless wonder. I still have a bunch of clothing in vaccum bags too‚ hang out but i am gona wait until all the clean stuff is dirty and out of door ways so there is more room. It will be a gradual thing getting all the clothing dehumidified. As I go‚ I will soak all the dirty stuff before washing even after I am certain this mess is over. We stoped the kids ivermec and just slather DE on them. they seem much less itchy this week. I think I will get another bag of DE and just keep this up for a while as a perventitive just in case messure. Yo ho yo ho a mitless life for me. Ack, I am so ecstatic I could take a cafine enema. J/k. I am thrilled though. Keep kicking ars guys. J.A.

[Guest guest]

Do you buy this yourself or can you get it through your home care company? I

can call this week and see if they can send this type for next week and I

also wondering if I need to try the smaller needles?? How do you know if you

need a smaller one?

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

K

Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:53 AM

Subject: sue

Yes, that is what we use, it is called IV3000 and it is waaaaaaay better for

sensitive kids and holds the needles in place absouletly perfect!! it is

clear like Tegraderm, but way better, also it is tricky to get the hang of

at first so if you try it, order extras, you have to remember to order

enough for each site (as you throw away the film that comes with the

needles) and for the Emla sites. It is way better and as Mindy said, always

have one hand holding the skin in place as you use the other to go around

and loosen the tape, once it is completely loosened all the way around we

pull the needles straight up and out

Makenzie 10 CVID, Asthma, Allergies, Reflux etc..etc...

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We've used something called Primapor - we put one piece of paper tape

over the needle, and then put primapor over it - it's fabulous - the

kids say it doesn't hurt AT ALL. It's NOT at all like tagaderm, and

it doesn't hurt at ALL to have come up. The disadvantage is that it's

not see through, however, it's easy to pull up and put back down.

Dayna

On Jan 16, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Herzberg wrote:

> Do you buy this yourself or can you get it through your home care

> company? I

> can call this week and see if they can send this type for next week

> and I

> also wondering if I need to try the smaller needles?? How do you

> know if you

> need a smaller one?

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of

> K

> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:53 AM

>

> Subject: sue

>

> Yes, that is what we use, it is called IV3000 and it is waaaaaaay

> better for

> sensitive kids and holds the needles in place absouletly perfect!!

> it is

> clear like Tegraderm, but way better, also it is tricky to get the

> hang of

> at first so if you try it, order extras, you have to remember to order

> enough for each site (as you throw away the film that comes with the

> needles) and for the Emla sites. It is way better and as Mindy said,

> always

> have one hand holding the skin in place as you use the other to go

> around

> and loosen the tape, once it is completely loosened all the way

> around we

> pull the needles straight up and out

>

> Makenzie 10 CVID, Asthma, Allergies, Reflux etc..etc...

> 21

>

>

[Guest guest]

It depends on how thin your child is and how much subcutaneous (read: fat)

tissue there is. You want the needle to pierce the skin and its immediate

layer, but not go so deep that it goes into the muscle below. Most of the

time, the skinny kids get the very short (6mm) needles. The gauge of the

needles (i.e. 19G) has to do with the bore of the needle, or how big it is

on the inside. The larger the bore, the smaller the numbers are (i.e. 19G

is larger than 21G), the faster the flow, too, so you wouldn't necessarily

want a smaller needle bore as it would slow down the infusion.

I hope this helps!

Mindy

I

> also wondering if I need to try the smaller needles?? How do you know if

> you

> need a smaller one?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

> K

> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:53 AM

>

> Subject: sue

>

>

>

>

>

> Yes, that is what we use, it is called IV3000 and it is waaaaaaay better

> for

> sensitive kids and holds the needles in place absouletly perfect!! it is

> clear like Tegraderm, but way better, also it is tricky to get the hang of

> at first so if you try it, order extras, you have to remember to order

> enough for each site (as you throw away the film that comes with the

> needles) and for the Emla sites. It is way better and as Mindy said,

> always

> have one hand holding the skin in place as you use the other to go around

> and loosen the tape, once it is completely loosened all the way around we

> pull the needles straight up and out

>

> Makenzie 10 CVID, Asthma, Allergies, Reflux etc..etc...

> 21

>

>

>

>

>

>

>