Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 , I agree that your GI's perception of NCCP as an " atypical " symptom for achalasia is pretty outdated, but unfortunately all too common. That is sooooo frustrating!!!! As far as anti-depressants being used to treat NCCPs associated with achalasia, it's NOT so much the " stress relief " part of it, but rather the neuromodulator/transmitter part of the drug. I don't know much about treating other chronic pain syndromes with anti-depressants, but in this instance it is generally a LOW DOSE anti-depressant (tricyclic or SSRI) -- the dose that is administered is BELOW the therapeutic level for treating psychological symptoms. (I just wanted to clear this up b/c I didn't want anyone to think that NCCPs are caused by " stress " and they would go away if we'd just relax, etc. Many of us have been told that our dysphagia is all in our heads, and I didn't want anyone to think that NCCPs are!) The way it was explained by Dr. Clouse (who has done an amazing amount of research on relationships between psychologic/psychiatric disorders, gastrointestinal disorders, and medications) was that the brain interprets " normal stimulus in an abnormal way " , and the anti-depressants help modulate the reactions of that part of the brain that is " misinterpreting " the signals. (For example, I will sometimes get a NCCP after sneezing... in a normal person, a sneeze doesn't cause a pain-response from the brain, but my brain " doesn't understand " what that stimulus was, so it reacts as if it were painful.) The term " Visceral Hyperalgesia " is used in describing this phenomenon; you may be familiar with that term. I have several articles that discuss the correlation between various anti-depressant medications, NCCP treatment, psychological treatment, etc. I've pulled out certain quotes from some of them, but provided the link for anyone who is interested in reading the whole thing with full context. I'm anxious to see Dr. Clouse's latest article, which is expected to be published within the next year. I'm having trouble finding the abstract, though -- if anyone can find it for me, I'd be eternally grateful! It's entitled: " Tricyclic antidepressants for chest pain from achalasia: adjuvants to conventional therapy " by RE Clouse and PJ Lustman. Anyway, here's a hodge podge of articles and quotes for your reading pleasure! Debbi in Michigan http://www2.us.elsevierhealth.com/scripts/om.dll/serve?retrieve=/pii/S0016508501\ 01352X & nav=full Several investigators have observed an increased pain perception (visceral hyperalgesia) in patients with angina-like pain following a variety of stimuli (J Am Coll Cardiol 1990;16:1359–1366, 1994;24:329–335, Br Heart J 1992;68:282–285, Circulation 1994;90:50–60). The precise origin or intimate mechanism involved in the generation of this visceral hyperalgesia remains to be defined. Triycyclic antidepressants improve chronic pain of somatic and visceral origin. At low doses, these pharmacologic agents have documented beneficial effects in the treatment of diverse types of chronic pain syndromes (Scand J Gastroenterol 1984;19:835–843). The mechanism of action of these compounds is not known, although it is likely that the analgesic effect of these agents is not dependent on mood altering virtues. Two previous trials have shown beneficial effects of trazodone (Gastroenterology 1987;92:1027–1036) and imipramine (N Engl J Med 1994;330:1411–1417) in the treatment of chest pain. In the most recent trial, Cannon et al. found that the response to imipramine was not dependent on the results of cardiac, esophageal, or psychiatric testing. However, repeat assessment of cardiac sensitivity while on treatment showed significant improvement afforded by imipramine (N Engl J Med 1994;330:1411–1417). This latter observation suggests that the improvement induced by imipramine likely is caused by a visceral analgesic effect. This hypothesis is also supported by the recent work of Peghini et al. in healthy subjects (Gut 1998;42:807–813). The study by Varia et al. is important for several reasons (Am Heart J 2000;140:367–372). First, the findings shed light into the potential mechanism involved in chest pain. The chest pain–reducing effects of an SSRI underscore the potential role of serotonin as neurotransmitter in patients with chest pain. Second, their observations that sertraline improves chest pain regardless of a concomitant improvement in psychological scores confirms parallel observations obtained with psychotropic compounds such as imipramine and trazodone during earlier trials (N Engl J Med 1994;330:1411–1417, Gastroenterology 1987;92:1027–1036). Third, their findings expand the therapeutic choices for the treatment of these challenging patients. This is particularly important because the traditionally available agents imipramine and trazodone can produce undesirable effects that limit their use, such as anticholinergic reactions, antiarrhythmic activity, and sedating effects. Furthermore, trazodone can induce priapism in male patients. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=10630484 Antidepressants are of demonstrated value in short-term treatment of functional chest pain, but long-term outcome data are unavailable. Follow-up information over a median of 2.7 years (0.8-8.6 years) was systematically obtained from 21 outpatients treated with tricyclic antidepressants after incomplete response to antireflux therapy. Initial treatment produced at least moderate symptom reduction or remission in 17 subjects (81.0%). Of these, 7 (41.2%) were successfully treated continuously or for symptom relapses over an average of 2.6 years; 5 (29.4%) discontinued successful treatment after >0.5 years with sustained benefits; and 5 (29.4%) eventually discontinued treatment because of side effects or for uncertain reasons (1 having a sustained remission). Low-dose tricyclic antidepressants were considered the most effective long-term chest pain treatment significantly more often than were antireflux medications or calcium-channel blockers in this selected patient group (P<0.05 for each). We conclude from this retrospective review that fully three fourths of subjects with functional chest pain who initially respond to open-label treatment with low-dose tricyclic antidepressants will use them continuously or for symptom relapses over at least the next two to three years and consider them the most effective treatment for their symptoms. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=1595754 -- Psychoactive medications have been used to manage chest pain of presumed esophageal origin, especially in syndromes associated with esophageal motor dysfunction. The rationale for their use is based on (a) the high prevalence of psychiatric disorders reported in patient groups with esophageal symptoms and minor motor dysfunction, ( recognized psychophysiologic effects on esophageal motor activity, © the potential benefits that nerve-modulating drugs may have on the pathogenesis of the syndromes (independent of psychiatric factors), and (d) observations from treatment trials for chronic pain--including irritable bowel syndrome, a disorder that shares some clinical features with functional esophageal chest pain. Although psychiatric factors may have interactive effects on the presentation and course of reflux disease, the use of psychoactive drugs in reflux disease has not been tested. The effects of psychoactive drugs have been systematically explored and documented in only one study. At present, the mechanisms of esophageal symptom reduction resulting from psychopharmacologic treatments are not clear, but reduced sensitivity to visceral stimuli remains one possibility. http://www.pulsus.com/Gastro/12_06/pate_ed.htm Tricyclic antidepressant (eg, amitriptyline in doses of 25 to 100 mg/day) should be used in patients with nonspecific abnormalities on diagnostic tests but a suspected esophageal source. These drugs are particularly indicated in patients with documented visceral hyperalgesia. http://www2.gastrojournal.org/scripts/om.dll/serve?action=searchDB & searchDBfor=a\ rt & artType=abs & id=pm3549420 & nav=abs & special=hilite & query=%5Bcontribs%5D%28clouse\ %2C%29 Low-dose trazodone for symptomatic patients with esophageal contraction abnormalities. A double-blind, placebo-controlled trial We conclude that low-dose trazodone therapy can be of benefit in the management of symptomatic patients with esophageal contraction abnormalities. In addition, our findings support recent observations that manometric abnormalities characterizing this patient group may not be solely responsible for symptoms. http://www2.gastrojournal.org/scripts/om.dll/serve?action=searchDB & searchDBfor=a\ rt & artType=abs & id=pm6862161 & nav=abs Nine patients with intermittent chest pain thought clinically to be secondary to esophageal " spasms " developed typical pain while being studied with an intraluminal transducer probe placed in the distal esophagus. Manometric changes from control periods were examined preceding and during pain episodes. No significant difference in distal esophageal wave duration or amplitude or in frequency of abnormal peristalsis was observed preceding or during pain episodes when compared with nonpain periods over a mean monitoring time of 227 min. No change from the nonpain periods in esophageal baseline pressure occurred during pain episodes, nor was there any other obvious manometric change by gross inspection of the tracings. We conclude that patients clinically suspected of having esophageal " spasms " as the source of chest pain frequently do not, regardless of the presence or absence of motility abnormalities on conventional esophageal manometric studies. (Gastroenterology 1983 Aug;85(2):395-402) http://www2.gastrojournal.org/scripts/om.dll/serve?action=searchDB & searchDBfor=a\ rt & artType=fullfree & id=a0020100495 & special=hilite & query=%5Barticletitle%5D%28che\ st+pain%2C%29 Treatment of patients with noncardiac chest pain (NCCP) is a major clinical dilemma. Imipramine has been found beneficial in the management of this condition (N Engl J Med 1994;330:1411–1417). However, the mechanism involved in chest pain improvement is unknown. Imipramine has several potential actions including anticholinergic, antihistamine activity, norepinephrine, and serotonin reuptake blockade. http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic743.htm Tricyclic antidepressants -- These agents, specifically imipramine, have been shown to decrease chest pain with no apparent cause on angiogram. Studies specifically evaluating nutcracker esophagus are not yet available. The mechanism of action of imipramine is not known. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=10957931 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=11096564 http://www2.gastrojournal.org/scripts/om.dll/serve?action=searchDB & searchDBfor=a\ rt & artType=abs & id=a0020200290 & nav=abs http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=9285856 Pharmacotherapy of altered brain-gut interactions in functional gastrointestinal disorders. > Debbi, > > I recently went to a new Gastroenterologist to get scoped cause I'm old > enough now to start the regular check ups. Since statistically we > achalasians have a higher risk of e cancer, I'll probably get scoped every > few years. Anyway, the point is, when I told him about my spasms, fairly > infrequent these days compared to my history, his take was this was > " atypical symptomology " ! Based on the posts on this board, I don't think > we're all " atypical " ! > > Regarding antidepressants, I've not read the literature on NCCP's but I am > familiar with the use of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI's) > antidepressants with chronic pain patients. Pain increases the stress > response in the body (increased cortisol levels, etc.) and the presence of > chronic pain can be depressing psychologically. The SSRI's seem to help > in both regards, reducing the biological stress response and easing > depression / anxiety. We know that depression and anxiety increase the > perception of pain, so conversely, reducing them will reduce the > perception of pain. Another way of saying this, is that it doesn't > eliminate the pain, but does help us to deal with it more effectively. I > think Notan has posted on this issue at some length. > > > > Warm aloha, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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