Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 wrote: > You are so smart. Thanks, however, in keeping with my present oppositional streak I have going, let me say, my getting into this thread seems to have been a dumb idea. ;-) > I think you could start performing these procedures for us...just think > of the money you could make moonlighting, and the money we would save on > Insurance. No way, I would lose my audience. You are just going to have to keep suffering. >Maybe it could be a barter system. Want a marshmallow? Thanks, but no. After that bonfire I have gained empathy for what we have done to those sweet little things. notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Debbi, enjoying the OT discussion. So am I Debbie, and have kept quite as long as I can. For those who believe in Jesus and I think this may be what Notan has been trying to get across, read Mark 7:14-19. "14Then Jesus called to the crowd to come and hear. "All of you listen," he said, "and try to understand. 15You are not defiled by what you eat; you are defiled by what you say and do![6] " 17Then Jesus went into a house to get away from the crowds, and his disciples asked him what he meant by the statement he had made. 18"Don't you understand either?" he asked. "Can't you see that what you eat won't defile you? 19Food doesn't come in contact with your heart, but only passes through the stomach and then comes out again." (By saying this, he showed that every kind of food is acceptable.) Maggie Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 notan wrote: Thanks for the link. It says it better than I was and includes some points I didn't want to get into on this list. Glad you liked it too. I thought it was very well-written: gets the point across in easy-to-understand language, etc. I like the distinction between "reasons" and "benefits." I can see health benefits. What I disagree with is when the reason is claimed to be health and because God is perfect therefore the given diet must be perfectly healthy, one size fits all. I hear you -- the Bible has slavery in it, too -- does that mean we're supposed to have slaves? Some parts of the Bible are relating the way life was back then, not necessarily the way God WANTED people to do things -- He lets us be free to make our own choices. Also, just b/c God gave us veggies doesn't necessarily mean that's ALL he wanted us to eat --- if I tell my preschooler to listen to me, that doesn't mean I want him to listen to me to the exclusion of all others! It just means I want him to make sure he does listen to me. One day I will have to a post a message about all the bad things in vegetables. Should be interesting. There's a lot of info that people don't realize, like the fact that eating lots of spinach (which is high in calcium) can actually DEPLETE the calcium in your bones! Debbi, enjoying the OT discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Great quote, Maggie! That does indeed sound to me like what notan was trying to get across! Debbi Debbi, enjoying the OT discussion.So am I Debbie, and have kept quite as long as I can.:)For those who believe in Jesus and I think this may bewhat Notan has been trying to get across, read Mark 7:14-19."14Then Jesus called to the crowd to come and hear. "All of you listen," he said, "and try to understand. 15You are not defiled by what you eat; you are defiled by what you say and do![6] "17Then Jesus went into a house to get away from the crowds, and his disciples asked him what he meant by the statement he had made. 18"Don't you understand either?" he asked. "Can't you see that what you eat won't defile you? 19Food doesn't come in contact with your heart, but only passes through the stomach and then comes out again." (By saying this, he showed that every kind of food is acceptable.)MaggieAlabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Amen. Food doesn't defile (cause to be sinful), but what comes out of the heart does. Loving and being kind is what He looks for, not what we eat. We need not eat certain things to be accepted by Him. So true, thank God. Our bodies do well on certain foods over certain others, though, yes? " All things are lawful ( said) but all thigns are NOT expedient. " Let's yield our whole bodies to Him. And for health's sake, let us each do what we can to live as healthfully as possible. And may we continue in love, serving one another, avoiding quarrels and not being contentious, but walkign in peace with all men as much as is within our power, which so pleases Him. Love, Diane > Debbi, enjoying the OT discussion. > > So am I Debbie, and have kept quite as long as I can. > For those who believe in Jesus and I think this may be > what Notan has been trying to get across, read Mark 7:14-19. > > " 14Then Jesus called to the crowd to come and hear. " All of you listen, " he > said, " and try to understand. 15You are not defiled by what you eat; you are > defiled by what you say and do![6] " > 17Then Jesus went into a house to get away from the crowds, and his disciples > asked him what he meant by the statement he had made. 18 " Don't you understand > either? " he asked. " Can't you see that what you eat won't defile you? 19Food > doesn't come in contact with your heart, but only passes through the stomach > and then comes out again. " (By saying this, he showed that every kind of food > is acceptable.) > > Maggie > Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Diane you wrote: Our bodies do well on certain foods over certain others, though, yes? and in another place you say: And for health's sake, let us each do what we can to live as healthfully as possible. Ahhhh, I think you got it Diane. You see we Achalasicans often can get down nothing. I have been to the point I could'nt even get water to go down. We can't pick and choose what we want or need to eat. We choose what we can eat to live. Hugs Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Diane wrote: " All things are lawful ( said) but all thigns are NOT expedient. " Let's yield our whole bodies to Him. And for health's sake, let us each do what we can to live as healthfully as possible. I was at a Cambodian wedding. If you didn't know what it was you could think it was just a feast with everyone sitting around a big table. I had no idea what the traditions were. At one point the couple got up and the groom began passing out cigarets to everyone while the bride followed behind lighting them. Naturally I turn them down, not just once, but at least twice. Without knowing it, I was declaring my opposition to the marriage. Man, I wish I had taken a puff. The healthy choice was the wrong choice. A doctor once told me that my job was killing me. For a number of reasons that was the last time I went to him. Among them was that I wanted a doctor that would help me live MY LIFE as I believe I should, not a doctor that wants to force me to have an AMA approved life. My mother makes some of the most wonderful, but unhealthy, foods. When I eat them, both our souls are nourished. I agree with you though. I will do what I " can " to live as healthfully as " possible " . As long as I get to define " can " and " possible. " notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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