SSI

[Guest guest]

Hi, I live near Houston and went to the SSI office to find out about getting

my son qualified, since he has asberger's syndrome, I am a single parent and

his meds, even with just the copays is really hard on us financially. They

laughed me out of the office, because my gross pay (before I pay out all the

medical insurance etc for myself and my kids) was too high.

Will he never qualify for SSI because I make too much? I mean, come on I am

just a teacher....he is on risperdal, topomax, depakote and concerta every

day. He doesn't finction without his meds. I am just trying to reintegrate

him into the regular classroom. He goes to my school where I work and the

principal and vice principals were very accusatory to me about not being

able to handle his outbursts! He just got a final diagonosis from school

this past spring, confirming asbergers. My insurance would not evaluate him

for that because they said school would do it.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Marcia

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Marcia,

I am a teacher as well and the first time I took my daughter in to apply for

SSI, she did not qualify. She is autistic and has already been diagnosed so I

had all the medical confirmations as well as the school tests to prove her

disability. When my husband lost his job, I went and applied again hoping the

income limits had changed even though the first time it was my gross income

alone that disqualified my daughter. This time, the lady who did the paper work

looked at my gross but took out the insurance and some other things that she

said she can legally take out and this time my daughter qualified! This just

happened last month so maybe you can ask someone at the ssi office about that.

Using my gross income alone would not have helped me but the lady at ssi did

everything she could and that is what helped us. Some SSI employees act as if

the benefits that we are applying for come straight from their pockets and they

do very little to help us. I did not know that they could deduct the insurance

from my gross or I would have told them to do so the first time I applied.

Corina

[Guest guest]

Marcia,

I am a teacher as well and the first time I took my daughter in to apply for

SSI, she did not qualify. She is autistic and has already been diagnosed so I

had all the medical confirmations as well as the school tests to prove her

disability. When my husband lost his job, I went and applied again hoping the

income limits had changed even though the first time it was my gross income

alone that disqualified my daughter. This time, the lady who did the paper work

looked at my gross but took out the insurance and some other things that she

said she can legally take out and this time my daughter qualified! This just

happened last month so maybe you can ask someone at the ssi office about that.

Using my gross income alone would not have helped me but the lady at ssi did

everything she could and that is what helped us. Some SSI employees act as if

the benefits that we are applying for come straight from their pockets and they

do very little to help us. I did not know that they could deduct the insurance

from my gross or I would have told them to do so the first time I applied.

Corina

[Guest guest]

I did give them my check stub. That is what they took a copy of when they put

entered everything into the computer. I told them all I really wanted was help

with medical things not so much the money. They said that if I so much as

qualify for $1.00 my duaghter would automatically get medicaid.

CL

Re: SSI

In a message dated 7/24/2003 11:44:01 AM Central Daylight Time,

elopez@... writes:

> I did not know that they could deduct the insurance from my gross or I

> would have told them to do so the first time I applied.

>

They don't normally do this. The only decutino they are supposed to give you

is one for having another child, but they take your entire gross pay into

account. Probably what will happen is that when you turn in your pay stubs

they

will look at it then and if you make too much money you will not get a check

or

a lower check that month. When we made over 2600 gross per month we would get

a check for 360.00 dollars. if we made 3000 a month ( one time we had three

holidays and a five week pay period and we went over 3000) we got less than

$20. If we make less than 2600 we get 536 a month

SSI goes on a month ot month basis, so if you get a raise or work even a

little overtime your benefits can be reduced. What you earn in July will

determine

what benefit you get for September.

[Guest guest]

I did give them my check stub. That is what they took a copy of when they put

entered everything into the computer. I told them all I really wanted was help

with medical things not so much the money. They said that if I so much as

qualify for $1.00 my duaghter would automatically get medicaid.

CL

Re: SSI

In a message dated 7/24/2003 11:44:01 AM Central Daylight Time,

elopez@... writes:

> I did not know that they could deduct the insurance from my gross or I

> would have told them to do so the first time I applied.

>

They don't normally do this. The only decutino they are supposed to give you

is one for having another child, but they take your entire gross pay into

account. Probably what will happen is that when you turn in your pay stubs

they

will look at it then and if you make too much money you will not get a check

or

a lower check that month. When we made over 2600 gross per month we would get

a check for 360.00 dollars. if we made 3000 a month ( one time we had three

holidays and a five week pay period and we went over 3000) we got less than

$20. If we make less than 2600 we get 536 a month

SSI goes on a month ot month basis, so if you get a raise or work even a

little overtime your benefits can be reduced. What you earn in July will

determine

what benefit you get for September.

[Guest guest]

re:

My insurance would not evaluate him

> for that because they said school would do it.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marcia

Marcia,

I was told " point blank " by our insurance rep to:

First...go to a child psychologist for an eval...to prove that it's

not just mental but, also medical...you will really need to stress to

the psych how touchy the insurance co is with the " Asperger "

diagnosis...see if you can coax them into writing up a PDD or

Developmental Delay diagnosis

Next...go to a neurologist to prove once again that this is a medical

condition

Once the above is taken care of the insurance company should have no

doubt of mental/medical issues anymore. I was told that our insurance

co would be bound by their policy to provide my son with everything

needed to treat a developmental delay or neurological disorder

Unfortunately I have no advice about co-pays..we are in the same boat

(we have 4 therapy visits a wk that are $30 a pop; not to mention out-

of-pocket therapies). The SSI thing, well a gentleman from this group

emailed me some info...I will forward it on to you. I chose to cancel

my appt because I knew we would be laughed at as well. I am uneasy

about the waiver because if we prove that he needs " nursing home

care " , the govt is on the fence right now concerning this waiver...if

anyone should ever question our parenting I don't want someone to

come in and say, " Well he needs to be in a facility anyway. " Maybe I

am just too untrusty of our govt but, hey, they have given me much

reason to doubt!!

Good luck with everything!

Nikki

[Guest guest]

re:

My insurance would not evaluate him

> for that because they said school would do it.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marcia

Marcia,

I was told " point blank " by our insurance rep to:

First...go to a child psychologist for an eval...to prove that it's

not just mental but, also medical...you will really need to stress to

the psych how touchy the insurance co is with the " Asperger "

diagnosis...see if you can coax them into writing up a PDD or

Developmental Delay diagnosis

Next...go to a neurologist to prove once again that this is a medical

condition

Once the above is taken care of the insurance company should have no

doubt of mental/medical issues anymore. I was told that our insurance

co would be bound by their policy to provide my son with everything

needed to treat a developmental delay or neurological disorder

Unfortunately I have no advice about co-pays..we are in the same boat

(we have 4 therapy visits a wk that are $30 a pop; not to mention out-

of-pocket therapies). The SSI thing, well a gentleman from this group

emailed me some info...I will forward it on to you. I chose to cancel

my appt because I knew we would be laughed at as well. I am uneasy

about the waiver because if we prove that he needs " nursing home

care " , the govt is on the fence right now concerning this waiver...if

anyone should ever question our parenting I don't want someone to

come in and say, " Well he needs to be in a facility anyway. " Maybe I

am just too untrusty of our govt but, hey, they have given me much

reason to doubt!!

Good luck with everything!

Nikki

[Guest guest]

No apology necessary for the question. SSI stands for Supplemental

Security Income. It's a federally funded cash benefit administered by the

Social Security Administration. People are eligible if they meet the

medical criteria (unable to work for a year or more because of a physical

or mental condition) and financial criteria (earning less than $800 a month

at the time of application, and having less than $2000 in assets [$3000 for

a couple] excluding work and disability equipment and the home you live in

and a few other resources which are exempt).

Alana

At 07:54 AM 1/14/04 -0300, you wrote:

>I'm sorry about the question, but I'm brazilian, so I

>don't really know what SSI means. What is SSI?

[Guest guest]

Ok, thanks for answering my question. Well, unfortunatly, we don't have it here,

that's why I have to work... How much do people earn per month w/ SSI? Just

curious...

Thanks one more time.

Joana

Re: SSI

No apology necessary for the question. SSI stands for Supplemental

Security Income. It's a federally funded cash benefit administered by the

Social Security Administration. People are eligible if they meet the

medical criteria (unable to work for a year or more because of a physical

or mental condition) and financial criteria (earning less than $800 a month

at the time of application, and having less than $2000 in assets [$3000 for

a couple] excluding work and disability equipment and the home you live in

and a few other resources which are exempt).

Alana

At 07:54 AM 1/14/04 -0300, you wrote:

>I'm sorry about the question, but I'm brazilian, so I

>don't really know what SSI means. What is SSI?

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s SSI varies month to month. It all depends on what

my husband makes. We get anywhere from $180-490 a month.

Marcy

" Joana Palma " <joanaroquette@...> wrote:

>Ok, thanks for answering my question. Well, unfortunatly,

>we don't have it here, that's why I have to work... How

>much do people earn per month w/ SSI? Just curious...

>Thanks one more time.

>Joana

> Re: SSI

>

>

> No apology necessary for the question. SSI stands for

>Supplemental

> Security Income. It's a federally funded cash benefit

>administered by the

> Social Security Administration. People are eligible

>if they meet the

> medical criteria (unable to work for a year or more

>because of a physical

> or mental condition) and financial criteria (earning

>less than $800 a month

> at the time of application, and having less than $2000

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> a couple] excluding work and disability equipment and

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> and a few other resources which are exempt).

>

> Alana

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[Guest guest]

The Federal Benefit Rates for the year 2003 were $552 per month for an

eligible individual, and $829 per month for an eligible couple. The Rates

are adjusted each year to account for cost-of-living changes. Most states

pay some people an additional amount that we call a " State

supplement. " The amounts and qualifications for these State supplements

are different from state to state.

At 06:48 PM 1/14/04 -0200, you wrote:

>Ok, thanks for answering my question. Well, unfortunatly, we don't have it

>here, that's why I have to work... How much do people earn per month w/

>SSI? Just curious...

>Thanks one more time.

>Joana

>

[Guest guest]

if someone lives where the cost of food, clothing and/or shelter is being

subsidized by someone else, ssi will be reduced. ssi is also affected by a

spouse's or one's own earnings, or by unearned income such as ssdi,

alimony, etc.

in california ssi w/o adjustments is $780.

At 02:56 PM 1/14/04 -0800, you wrote:

>i live at home w/ my parents , am 24 yrs old and get $602 a month (I think

>living w/ my parents makes a difference in the SSI i receive?) ..it gets

>upped $5-$10 or so each yr for cost of living. I know single people

>living on their own who get a bit more.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone. I really appreciate everyone's suggestions and stories on this. I

had a long talk with one of the people that works with Nick thru early

intervention (which he doesn't qualify for either) she gave me what she thought

would be the only service that she thought Nick might qualify for. It was a

program that just covered co pays of visits for the disorder they were dx for,

nothing else. Okay, so I called them and we still make over 10k over their

income level.

Not that Jeff would ever quit his job, but where we screwed up was, Jeff gets

stock options. We spend out of pocket an average of 7K to 14K a year on Nicks

medical stuff, the things our insurance doesn't cover. So we have been selling

stock to cover those expenses since we don't want to be further in debt than we

already are. Well of course that is added to our income so then we are 20K over

the income guidelines. Plus then to top it off we can't claim medical on our

taxes since when you add stock sales to our income, we don't have enough in

medical. It is a never ending circle and it is getting more and more

frustrating. I suppose I should just count my blessings and just leave it at

that. I hope that all this wonderful SSI information is going to help someone

else out there. I know that I learned a lot from these posts, thanks.

Amy, mom to:

, 22 months old. CVID, MSPI, GERD, Asthma.. On claritin, flovent,

xopenex, and IVIG every 4 weeks (Carimune NF)and on prophalatic antibiotics,

Allergic to Latex.

visit Nick's website:

http://www3.caringbridge.org/ne/nicholasb/<http://www3.caringbridge.org/ne/nicho\

lasb/>

[Guest guest]

is right. If you are a parent of an underaged child, they do

something called deeming your income. It's a very complicated formula

but they do point out what they do , to determine eligibility.

I know the family a little more. You can have one car, a house, that

is exempt from resource availability, you can have 2000-3000 worth of

resoruces otherwise

These resources include bank accounts, savings bonds, college funds.

Your 401K account does not count. Things like our respite monies does

not count.

Here in Ny, if you get SSI, you get medicaid. We had the medicaid

wavier before going after SSI and that complicated things for us.

I have formula if anyone wants it. It's even more complicated for

adults because there is a way to continue to work, make a half way

good money and still get SSI. It's a ticket to work program.

[Guest guest]

I think qualifying for SSI depends alot on your income and who is working on your case. My son is not even diagnosed with AS or Autism, but he gets $500 a month because his chronic ear problems and his speech delay. We're up for review next week and I'm so nervous about it. I use the money for daycare, so he can get some socialization and I can go to school, so I'm praying they let us keep it until I get out of school.

Anne

-- SSI

In a message dated 11/25/04 9:24:29 PM Central Standard Time, Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes:

It really depends on the level of functioning but yes autism doesqualify for SSI. I would go in with all dx's and all comorbids.Hope you are able to get him to try, it might help him a lot SSI is not easy to obtain. Also many people are turned down for just about any reason, the first time that they apply. IN addition to this, the child has to have very little savings or income. My son has a college savings account set up in his name since birth from relatives, and he has too much to qualify. He has some money saved in his name from his paper route too and birthday money, and so that counts as well. Sometimes Autism and ADD, and so forth can qualify for SSI, but just a diganosis is not enough of the whole reason that a person can be in this program. The program is reserved for the needy and those who have high medical bills and a disability that needs money and care that the client will qualify for and need. Also, SSI is a government funded program and it is not considered taxable income to the recipient.hugs' in IL

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'll get it together for you in the morning and mail it out. I have

a few other documents that I either got off an email list or

searching. We applied back in August after I put it off for a few

years.

[Guest guest]

I’d love

to see that too, , if you don’t mind.

Thanks!

Maralee

>^..^<

Re:

SSI

Hi,

I'll get it together for you in the morning

and mail it out. I have

a few other documents that I either got off an

email list or

searching. We applied back in August after I put

it off for a few

years.

[Guest guest]

I would love the formula too, please. After the first of the year I am going to try and file for SSI again for my 3yr old daughter. I would like to try and file fro my 13 and 5yr old son's too, but I don't know how that would affect my 3yr old.

MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!!

I am who I am because that's who I am--, 5

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-- Carr

SSI

In a message dated 11/26/04 7:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes:

I have formula if anyone wants it. It's even more complicated foradults because there is a way to continue to work, make a half waygood money and still get SSI. It's a ticket to work program. HI Yes, I would like to see this. Send this to me in email please. Thanks so much. in IL

[Guest guest]

Laha1960@... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/26/04 7:31:14 PM Central Standard Time,

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes:

>

>> I have formula if anyone wants it. It's even more complicated for

>> adults because there is a way to continue to work, make a half way

>> good money and still get SSI. It's a ticket to work program.

>

>

>

> HI

>

> Yes, I would like to see this. Send this to me in email please. Thanks

> so much.

>

> in IL

My dh just signed us up for this very thing (I get SSI and Medicaid

because of my HCV and related probs)! He can earn $500 and some odd a

month and we still keep our Medicaid (essential for my transplant).

However we lose the princely sum in our checks. Somehow I think we can

do without the $4.50/mo.

You can get info on this at the Social Security website.

Annie, who loves ya annie@...

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[Guest guest]

HOW SOCIAL SECURITY CALCULATES THE SSI PAYMENT FOR KIDS

Deeming parents income for kids on SSI

Some basic facts: Each countable person (SSI recipient, ineligible

parent, and ineligible spouse) with income gets a $20 standard

deduction. This is deducted from unearned income first and then the

remainder is deducted from earned income. Each person that works gets

$65 deducted from their wages and then the remaining amount is divided

by two. This goes for SSI recipients who work, ineligible parents and

ineligible spouses.

If there is any unearned income for the parent or SSI-eligible child

you would subtract $20 from it. You do not count child support you

receive for ineligible children as a parent's unearned income.

Total the earned income for the parent. Subtract $20 from the earned

income. Then you subtract $65 from the earned income.

Divide the remaining earned income by 2.

Add this amount to any unearned income (for parents).

Next we figure out the ineligible child allocation. It can be tricky

when the ineligible child has income. The ineligible child allocation

is ½ the maximum federal SSI grant – this yr it is $265. If the

ineligible child has any unearned income then you subtract it from the

$265 to figure out how much of an ineligible child allocation is

allowed. For example if the ineligible child receives child support

of $230 then the ineligible child allocation would be $35. If the

ineligible child has income greater the ineligible child allocation

then you would not receive an ineligible child allocation for that

child. Ineligible children in the house get an ineligible child

allocation if their income is below the ineligible child allocation

amount.

You subtract all the ineligible child allocations from the countable

earned & unearned income for the parent (after the above deductions).

Then you subtract the maximum SSI grant. For a two parent household

you would subtract the couple's SSI grant grant amount (currently

$796) and for one parent a single person's amount (currently $531).

Your total is the amount of income that you deem to the child. This

is counted as unearned income for the child. If you have two

SSI-eligible children you would divide this number by 2 and this total

would be how much you would deem for each child.

Child support: If the SSI-eligible receives any child support you

would count just 2/3 of it. You subtract 1/3 of the child support

they are receiving from the child's total child support. Now if an

ineligible child and eligible child receive child support from the

same absent parent then you would first divide the child support by

two (or 3 – depending on how many kids receive it) and then count 2/3

of that as unearned income for the SSI-eligible child.

You would add the countable deemed income to unearned income the

SSI-eligible child receives. Then you would subtract the standard

income deduction of $20. You would subtract this amount from the SSI

grant for 1. And this is the amount of the SSI grant for the child.

I'll put an example at the bottom

Family of 6, 4 children, one working adult

Parents earned income for the month $2793.20

Minus Living allowance for ineligible children -846.00

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\

----

Subtotal $1947.20

We don't count $20 of the above - 20.00

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\

---

Subtotal $1927.20

We don't count $65 of wages - 65.00

___________________________________________

Subtotal $1862.20

We don't count half of this amount - 931.10

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subtotal 931.10

Minus living allowance for parents -846.00

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total parents income we count ( deem for child) $85.10

They do not count $20 of the above because the $85.10 is considered

the childs income. So they subtract $65.10 from the most federal SSI

money the law allows them to pay

$564

-65.10

------------

Child gets $498.90 a month

I do have the income limits somewhere, that determine if you make the

cut off or not. I'll search for them. I remember that it took me

forever to find. I should have a link in my favorites.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Your brother-in-law must be earning a *big* salary. The average wage for

full-time employment here is £25000 ($47000) but of course that means a lot

of people earn a great deal less than that. Housing is expensive here in the

South-east, but no-one on the average wage could afford a million dollar

house (half million pounds), nor a private school.

Nobody needs to pay for schooling here, although some people think it is

better privately (not necessarily - my daughter went to state funded schools

and is now at Oxford university).

We complain about it, but we only pay £1100 each year for university tuition

fees, the rest of the fees are paid by the local education authority

(similar to school district). It used to be totally free. People on low

incomes also get help with their child's living expenses whilst at

university (as well as other benefits). All disabled university/college

students can ask for an extra allowance to pay for additional support - this

includes those with ASD although the majority of claimants are those with

dyslexia.

One parent (usually the mother) claims child benefit for each child - this

is not means tested, so everyone gets it. Those working but not earning much

can get tax credits too.

Another benefit which is not means tested is disability living allowance,

which is paid to those with a disability which causes them greater

difficulty with everyday life than the average person. Increasing numbers

with ASD (adults, or parents on behalf of their children) are claiming this.

For those looking after someone there is Carers allowance.

For medical emergencies (eg road accidents, appendicitis), you go straight

to hospital for treatment, no questions asked.

All under 18s get free dental treatment, free eye tests and help towards

spectacles.

Unemployed or those unable to work through illness etc get benefit, but it

doesn't enable them to live very well! But at least they never have to worry

about medical bills.

So when are you moving over here? <wink>

in England

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Your brother-in-law must be earning a *big* salary. The average wage for

full-time employment here is £25000 ($47000) but of course that means a lot

of people earn a great deal less than that. Housing is expensive here in the

South-east, but no-one on the average wage could afford a million dollar

house (half million pounds), nor a private school.

Nobody needs to pay for schooling here, although some people think it is

better privately (not necessarily - my daughter went to state funded schools

and is now at Oxford university).

We complain about it, but we only pay £1100 each year for university tuition

fees, the rest of the fees are paid by the local education authority

(similar to school district). It used to be totally free. People on low

incomes also get help with their child's living expenses whilst at

university (as well as other benefits). All disabled university/college

students can ask for an extra allowance to pay for additional support - this

includes those with ASD although the majority of claimants are those with

dyslexia.

One parent (usually the mother) claims child benefit for each child - this

is not means tested, so everyone gets it. Those working but not earning much

can get tax credits too.

Another benefit which is not means tested is disability living allowance,

which is paid to those with a disability which causes them greater

difficulty with everyday life than the average person. Increasing numbers

with ASD (adults, or parents on behalf of their children) are claiming this.

For those looking after someone there is Carers allowance.

For medical emergencies (eg road accidents, appendicitis), you go straight

to hospital for treatment, no questions asked.

All under 18s get free dental treatment, free eye tests and help towards

spectacles.

Unemployed or those unable to work through illness etc get benefit, but it

doesn't enable them to live very well! But at least they never have to worry

about medical bills.

So when are you moving over here? <wink>

in England

[Guest guest]

Wow.

Is there a slight clue here that the

government put this together?

Somehow, that’s easy to believe!!! (It’s sooo

complicated!)

(Thanks, heather!)

Maralee

>^..^<

Re:

SSI

HOW SOCIAL SECURITY CALCULATES THE SSI PAYMENT FOR

KIDS

Deeming parents income for kids on SSI

Some basic facts: Each countable person (SSI

recipient, ineligible

parent, and ineligible spouse) with income gets a

$20 standard

deduction. This is deducted from unearned

income first and then the

remainder is deducted from earned income.

Each person that works gets

$65 deducted from their wages and then the

remaining amount is divided

by two. This goes for SSI recipients who

work, ineligible parents and

ineligible spouses.

If there is any unearned income for the parent or

SSI-eligible child

you would subtract $20 from it. You do

not count child support you

receive for ineligible children as a parent's

unearned income.

Total the earned income for the parent.

Subtract $20 from the earned

income. Then you subtract $65 from the

earned income.

Divide the remaining earned income by 2.

Add this amount to any unearned income (for

parents).

Next we figure out the ineligible child

allocation. It can be tricky

when the ineligible child has income. The

ineligible child allocation

is ½ the maximum federal SSI grant – this yr it is

$265. If the

ineligible child has any unearned income then you

subtract it from the

$265 to figure out how much of an ineligible child

allocation is

allowed. For example if the ineligible child

receives child support

of $230 then the ineligible child allocation would

be $35. If the

ineligible child has income greater the ineligible

child allocation

then you would not receive an ineligible child

allocation for that

child. Ineligible children in the house get

an ineligible child

allocation if their income is below the ineligible

child allocation

amount.

You subtract all the ineligible child allocations

from the countable

earned & unearned income for the parent (after

the above deductions).

Then you subtract the maximum SSI grant. For

a two parent household

you would subtract the couple's SSI grant grant

amount (currently

$796) and for one parent a single person's

amount (currently $531).

Your total is the amount of income that you deem

to the child. This

is counted as unearned income for the child.

If you have two

SSI-eligible children you would divide this number

by 2 and this total

would be how much you would deem for each child.

Child support: If the SSI-eligible receives

any child support you

would count just 2/3 of it. You subtract 1/3

of the child support

they are receiving from the child's total child

support. Now if an

ineligible child and eligible child receive child

support from the

same absent parent then you would first divide the

child support by

two (or 3 – depending on how many kids receive it)

and then count 2/3

of that as unearned income for the SSI-eligible

child.

You would add the countable deemed income to

unearned income the

SSI-eligible child receives. Then you would

subtract the standard

income deduction of $20. You would subtract

this amount from the SSI

grant for 1. And this is the amount of the

SSI grant for the child.

I'll put an example at the bottom

Family of 6, 4 children, one working adult

Parents earned income for the month $2793.20

Minus Living allowance for ineligible

children -846.00

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subtotal

$1947.20

We don't count $20 of the

above

- 20.00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subtotal

$1927.20

We don't count $65 of

wages

- 65.00

___________________________________________

Subtotal

$1862.20

We don't count half of this

amount

- 931.10

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subtotal

931.10

Minus living allowance for

parents

-846.00

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total parents income we count ( deem for child)

$85.10

They do not count $20 of the above because the

$85.10 is considered

the childs income. So they subtract $65.10

from the most federal SSI

money the law allows them to pay

$564

-65.10

------------

Child gets $498.90 a month

I do have the income limits somewhere, that

determine if you make the

cut off or not. I'll search for them. I remember

that it took me

forever to find. I should have a link in my

favorites.

[Guest guest]

I used an ADHD dx to get my son's SSI. I got approved the first

try.

Sharon S.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 1/19/05 3:10:38 AM Central Standard Time,

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes:

>

> Have you tried to get SSI yet? I am in Georgia & my daughter gets

Medicaid

> through SSI. I don't know what the household income is, but, that

does

> affect eligibilty to one degree or another. It wouldn't hurt to

try & find out.

>

>

>

> SSI is very hard to get, very much for those who need it and

have a very

> low income. Also, your child can not have a savings account or

money in their

> name that is more than like $2000. I looked into all of this. It

is not easy

> to qualify for SSI medical wise either, and some do qualify and

some do

> not..

>

> in IL

[Guest guest]

And SSI they get now comes out of their future SSI earnings, yes?

SSI

In a message dated 1/19/05 3:10:38 AM Central Standard Time, Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes:

Have you tried to get SSI yet? I am in Georgia & my daughter gets Medicaid through SSI. I don't know what the household income is, but, that does affect eligibilty to one degree or another. It wouldn't hurt to try & find out.

SSI is very hard to get, very much for those who need it and have a very low income. Also, your child can not have a savings account or money in their name that is more than like $2000. I looked into all of this. It is not easy to qualify for SSI medical wise either, and some do qualify and some do not..

in IL