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Hello everyone. We are having our first Parent Support Group meeting next Wed.

Jan. 5th from 12-1:30 in Elmhurst. If you are interested in joining our group

please email me at slpanda2@.... We are pretty small so far but will

be looking for some guest speakers in the future so please let me know if you

can make a meeting. They are all going to be the first Wed. of each month.

Thank you and Happy New Year!

Shirley

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Shirley-

I would be willing to chat with your parent group about benefits.

-Sherri Schneider

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From: momofchris2007 <slpanda2@...>

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Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:28:47 PM

Subject: Parent Support Group

 

Hello all, today was our second Parent Support Group meeting and we are off to a

great start. If anyone is looking for a group of mom's to talk to and try to

figure everything out with, please let me know. We meet the First Wed. of every

month from noon till 1:30 in Elmhurst. We found that the more we think we know,

the less we know. I am working on getting a couple of guest speakers so if

anyone is interested, please let me know. Right now we are trying to figure out

SSI and SSDI and why everyone gets something different. Anyone have any

suggestions? Thanks. Shirley

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That would be great.  Our meetings are the 1st Wed of every month 12- 130 in

Elmhurst.  Just let me know which meeting you can make it to and I will send

you all the details. I am waiting to hear from a couple other

possibilities. Thank you, Shirley

From: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss@...>

Subject: Re: Parent Support Group

IPADDUnite

Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 3:51 PM

 

Shirley-

I would be willing to chat with your parent group about benefits.

-Sherri Schneider

________________________________

From: momofchris2007 <slpanda2@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:28:47 PM

Subject: Parent Support Group

 

Hello all, today was our second Parent Support Group meeting and we are off to a

great start. If anyone is looking for a group of mom's to talk to and try to

figure everything out with, please let me know. We meet the First Wed. of every

month from noon till 1:30 in Elmhurst. We found that the more we think we know,

the less we know. I am working on getting a couple of guest speakers so if

anyone is interested, please let me know. Right now we are trying to figure out

SSI and SSDI and why everyone gets something different. Anyone have any

suggestions? Thanks. Shirley

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Hi Sherri, I did not forget about your generous offer to come speak at our

Parent Support Group.  I am waiting for a couple of people to get back to me. 

Can you send me a short explanation on what you can share with our group, who

you are, etc so I can share it with my group.  I am sure they will be anxious

to hear you will come and answer some of our many questions.  We have a speaker

for May so far and possibly April or June but I will let you know for sure and

hopefully we can set up a date for you to come and talk.  We are a new group

and are just starting to get our questions answered, so if you know anyone else

we should be asking to speak, please let me know.  Thank you so much.  Shirley

From: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss@...>

Subject: Re: Parent Support Group

IPADDUnite

Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 3:51 PM

 

Shirley-

I would be willing to chat with your parent group about benefits.

-Sherri Schneider

________________________________

From: momofchris2007 <slpanda2@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:28:47 PM

Subject: Parent Support Group

 

Hello all, today was our second Parent Support Group meeting and we are off to a

great start. If anyone is looking for a group of mom's to talk to and try to

figure everything out with, please let me know. We meet the First Wed. of every

month from noon till 1:30 in Elmhurst. We found that the more we think we know,

the less we know. I am working on getting a couple of guest speakers so if

anyone is interested, please let me know. Right now we are trying to figure out

SSI and SSDI and why everyone gets something different. Anyone have any

suggestions? Thanks. Shirley

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Shirley-

I usually talk about SSDI, SSI, Medicaid, Medicare, pickle rule, DAC, HBWD, and

how benefits change over someone's lifetime. I use a power point where I put

each benefit in a different room in a house. (different room = different rules).

Please let me know if you would want something in addition.

I hope this e-mail finds you well.

-Sherri

________________________________

From: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 7:27:15 AM

Subject: Re: Parent Support Group

 

Hi Sherri, I did not forget about your generous offer to come speak at our

Parent Support Group.  I am waiting for a couple of people to get back to me. 

Can you send me a short explanation on what you can share with our group, who

you are, etc so I can share it with my group.  I am sure they will be anxious

to

hear you will come and answer some of our many questions.  We have a speaker

for

May so far and possibly April or June but I will let you know for sure and

hopefully we can set up a date for you to come and talk.  We are a new group

and

are just starting to get our questions answered, so if you know anyone else we

should be asking to speak, please let me know.  Thank you so much.  Shirley

From: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss@...>

Subject: Re: Parent Support Group

IPADDUnite

Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 3:51 PM

 

Shirley-

I would be willing to chat with your parent group about benefits.

-Sherri Schneider

________________________________

From: momofchris2007 <slpanda2@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:28:47 PM

Subject: Parent Support Group

 

Hello all, today was our second Parent Support Group meeting and we are off to a

great start. If anyone is looking for a group of mom's to talk to and try to

figure everything out with, please let me know. We meet the First Wed. of every

month from noon till 1:30 in Elmhurst. We found that the more we think we know,

the less we know. I am working on getting a couple of guest speakers so if

anyone is interested, please let me know. Right now we are trying to figure out

SSI and SSDI and why everyone gets something different. Anyone have any

suggestions? Thanks. Shirley

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okay, what is the pickle rule? curious minds want to know :-)

Thanks,

H.

Re: Parent Support Group

Shirley-

usually talk about SSDI, SSI, Medicaid, Medicare, pickle rule, DAC, HBWD, and

ow benefits change over someone's lifetime. I use a power point where I put

ach benefit in a different room in a house. (different room = different rules).

lease let me know if you would want something in addition.

hope this e-mail finds you well.

Sherri

_______________________________

rom: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@...>

o: IPADDUnite

ent: Thu, March 10, 2011 7:27:15 AM

ubject: Re: Parent Support Group

i Sherri, I did not forget about your generous offer to come speak at our

arent Support Group. I am waiting for a couple of people to get back to me.

an you send me a short explanation on what you can share with our group, who

ou are, etc so I can share it with my group. I am sure they will be anxious to

hear you will come and answer some of our many questions. We have a speaker for

May so far and possibly April or June but I will let you know for sure and

opefully we can set up a date for you to come and talk. We are a new group and

are just starting to get our questions answered, so if you know anyone else we

hould be asking to speak, please let me know. Thank you so much. Shirley

From: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss@...>

ubject: Re: Parent Support Group

o: IPADDUnite

ate: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 3:51 PM

Shirley-

would be willing to chat with your parent group about benefits.

Sherri Schneider

________________________________

rom: momofchris2007 <slpanda2@...>

o: IPADDUnite

ent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:28:47 PM

ubject: Parent Support Group

ello all, today was our second Parent Support Group meeting and we are off to a

reat start. If anyone is looking for a group of mom's to talk to and try to

igure everything out with, please let me know. We meet the First Wed. of every

onth from noon till 1:30 in Elmhurst. We found that the more we think we know,

he less we know. I am working on getting a couple of guest speakers so if

nyone is interested, please let me know. Right now we are trying to figure out

SI and SSDI and why everyone gets something different. Anyone have any

uggestions? Thanks. Shirley

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Pickle rule is kind of involved.

Reader's Digest Version:

I receive SSI because I never worked and paid into FICA.  I receive $449.34. I

have been on this before I turned 22.

My father retires (or dies or becomes disabled himself) and collects Social

Security (retirement or disability) for himself.

Since SSI has my onset date as before 22, I can now collect SSDI - using my

father's work record.

He will get a " chunk " monthly (example: $1700)  & I will get a different "

chunk " monthly. (example: $1200)

UT OH - my SSDI is now a problem for Medicaid income rules. :(

BUT NO:  Congressman Pickle fixed this problem:  :)

Since I went directly from SSI to a parent's work record SSDI, my new SSDI

amount will NOT count for Medicaid. 

________________________________

From: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 10:13:11 AM

Subject: Re: Parent Support Group

 

okay, what is the pickle rule? curious minds want to know :-)

Thanks,

H.

Re: Parent Support Group

Shirley-

usually talk about SSDI, SSI, Medicaid, Medicare, pickle rule, DAC, HBWD, and

ow benefits change over someone's lifetime. I use a power point where I put

ach benefit in a different room in a house. (different room = different rules).

lease let me know if you would want something in addition.

hope this e-mail finds you well.

Sherri

_______________________________

rom: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@...>

o: IPADDUnite

ent: Thu, March 10, 2011 7:27:15 AM

ubject: Re: Parent Support Group

i Sherri, I did not forget about your generous offer to come speak at our

arent Support Group. I am waiting for a couple of people to get back to me.

an you send me a short explanation on what you can share with our group, who

ou are, etc so I can share it with my group. I am sure they will be anxious to

hear you will come and answer some of our many questions. We have a speaker for

May so far and possibly April or June but I will let you know for sure and

opefully we can set up a date for you to come and talk. We are a new group and

are just starting to get our questions answered, so if you know anyone else we

hould be asking to speak, please let me know. Thank you so much. Shirley

From: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss@...>

ubject: Re: Parent Support Group

o: IPADDUnite

ate: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 3:51 PM

Shirley-

would be willing to chat with your parent group about benefits.

Sherri Schneider

________________________________

rom: momofchris2007 <slpanda2@...>

o: IPADDUnite

ent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:28:47 PM

ubject: Parent Support Group

ello all, today was our second Parent Support Group meeting and we are off to a

reat start. If anyone is looking for a group of mom's to talk to and try to

igure everything out with, please let me know. We meet the First Wed. of every

onth from noon till 1:30 in Elmhurst. We found that the more we think we know,

he less we know. I am working on getting a couple of guest speakers so if

nyone is interested, please let me know. Right now we are trying to figure out

SI and SSDI and why everyone gets something different. Anyone have any

uggestions? Thanks. Shirley

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I am out of town giving a presentation in Texas. When I can get to a computer I

will forward to be uploaded an article I wrote on the Pickle Rule and variations

to the Pickle Rule. Ellen remind me!

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From: Sherri Schneider [mailto:benefithelpss@...]

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:56 AM

IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite >

Subject: Re: Parent Support Group

Pickle rule is kind of involved.

Reader's Digest Version:

I receive SSI because I never worked and paid into FICA. I receive $449.34. I

have been on this before I turned 22.

My father retires (or dies or becomes disabled himself) and collects Social

Security (retirement or disability) for himself.

Since SSI has my onset date as before 22, I can now collect SSDI - using my

father's work record.

He will get a " chunk " monthly (example: $1700) & I will get a different "

chunk " monthly. (example: $1200)

UT OH - my SSDI is now a problem for Medicaid income rules. :(

BUT NO: Congressman Pickle fixed this problem: :)

Since I went directly from SSI to a parent's work record SSDI, my new SSDI

amount will NOT count for Medicaid.

________________________________

From: " sunshinebeaches3@...<mailto:sunshinebeaches3%40aol.com> "

<sunshinebeaches3@...<mailto:sunshinebeaches3%40aol.com>>

IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 10:13:11 AM

Subject: Re: Parent Support Group

okay, what is the pickle rule? curious minds want to know :-)

Thanks,

H.

Re: Parent Support Group

Shirley-

usually talk about SSDI, SSI, Medicaid, Medicare, pickle rule, DAC, HBWD, and

ow benefits change over someone's lifetime. I use a power point where I put

ach benefit in a different room in a house. (different room = different rules).

lease let me know if you would want something in addition.

hope this e-mail finds you well.

Sherri

_______________________________

rom: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@...<mailto:slpanda2%40sbcglobal.net>>

o: IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

ent: Thu, March 10, 2011 7:27:15 AM

ubject: Re: Parent Support Group

i Sherri, I did not forget about your generous offer to come speak at our

arent Support Group. I am waiting for a couple of people to get back to me.

an you send me a short explanation on what you can share with our group, who

ou are, etc so I can share it with my group. I am sure they will be anxious to

hear you will come and answer some of our many questions. We have a speaker for

May so far and possibly April or June but I will let you know for sure and

opefully we can set up a date for you to come and talk. We are a new group and

are just starting to get our questions answered, so if you know anyone else we

hould be asking to speak, please let me know. Thank you so much. Shirley

From: Sherri Schneider

<benefithelpss@...<mailto:benefithelpss%40>>

ubject: Re: Parent Support Group

o: IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

ate: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 3:51 PM

Shirley-

would be willing to chat with your parent group about benefits.

Sherri Schneider

________________________________

rom: momofchris2007 <slpanda2@...<mailto:slpanda2%40sbcglobal.net>>

o: IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

ent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:28:47 PM

ubject: Parent Support Group

ello all, today was our second Parent Support Group meeting and we are off to a

reat start. If anyone is looking for a group of mom's to talk to and try to

igure everything out with, please let me know. We meet the First Wed. of every

onth from noon till 1:30 in Elmhurst. We found that the more we think we know,

he less we know. I am working on getting a couple of guest speakers so if

nyone is interested, please let me know. Right now we are trying to figure out

SI and SSDI and why everyone gets something different. Anyone have any

uggestions? Thanks. Shirley

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The Pickle Amendment to Medicaid Regs was sponsored by Representative Pickle in

the mid 1980's. Prior to this amendment, a disabled adult child (DAC) of a

working parent was worse off when the parent who worked and paid into Social

Security died or retired than the child of a parent who never worked or never

paid into SSA. The reason was the child would lose his SSI when the parent

retired or died because the amount of SSDI as a DAC was greater than the SSI.

Unfortunately if the amount of SSDI was greater than the poverty level, he also

lost his Medicaid. Because Medicaid is the ticket to services, the adult child

of a worker was left in a worse off situation in that he no longer qualified for

Medicaid at a time when it was critical to be eligible.

Rep. Pickle said that a disabled adult child of a working parent shouldn't be

worse off than a disabled adult child of a non working parent. So he sponsored

the bill which has his name on it today and is known as the Pickle Amendment.

Basically the amendment says " If you were receiving SSI prior to your parent's

retirement or death AND if the ONLY thing making you ineligible for Medicaid is

the excess income from the DAC benefits, then you will not lose eligibility for

medicaid. The Medicaid card is coded as a " qualified Medicaid Beneficiary

(QMB) " and the adult child can continue to have group home and other services

paid for with the Medicaid card.

It is more complicated than the above but that's the basic explanation.

Terrie Varnet

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From: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:13:11 AM

Subject: Re: Parent Support Group

okay, what is the pickle rule? curious minds want to know :-)

Thanks,

H.

Re: Parent Support Group

Shirley-

usually talk about SSDI, SSI, Medicaid, Medicare, pickle rule, DAC, HBWD, and

ow benefits change over someone's lifetime. I use a power point where I put

ach benefit in a different room in a house. (different room = different rules).

lease let me know if you would want something in addition.

hope this e-mail finds you well.

Sherri

_______________________________

rom: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@...>

o: IPADDUnite

ent: Thu, March 10, 2011 7:27:15 AM

ubject: Re: Parent Support Group

i Sherri, I did not forget about your generous offer to come speak at our

arent Support Group. I am waiting for a couple of people to get back to me.

an you send me a short explanation on what you can share with our group, who

ou are, etc so I can share it with my group. I am sure they will be anxious to

hear you will come and answer some of our many questions. We have a speaker for

May so far and possibly April or June but I will let you know for sure and

opefully we can set up a date for you to come and talk. We are a new group and

are just starting to get our questions answered, so if you know anyone else we

hould be asking to speak, please let me know. Thank you so much. Shirley

From: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss@...>

ubject: Re: Parent Support Group

o: IPADDUnite

ate: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 3:51 PM

Shirley-

would be willing to chat with your parent group about benefits.

Sherri Schneider

________________________________

rom: momofchris2007 <slpanda2@...>

o: IPADDUnite

ent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:28:47 PM

ubject: Parent Support Group

ello all, today was our second Parent Support Group meeting and we are off to a

reat start. If anyone is looking for a group of mom's to talk to and try to

igure everything out with, please let me know. We meet the First Wed. of every

onth from noon till 1:30 in Elmhurst. We found that the more we think we know,

he less we know. I am working on getting a couple of guest speakers so if

nyone is interested, please let me know. Right now we are trying to figure out

SI and SSDI and why everyone gets something different. Anyone have any

uggestions? Thanks. Shirley

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