Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Carolyn (and list), I thought that I would give you a little of the background of some of the Tijuana cancer clinics during the years before you came to Tijuana to recruit patients for Jeff Freeman. I first met Jeff when I was medical director of the Manner Clinic. This was before Wilner took over in about 1991. Del Rio (one of the owners) gave Jeff a tour of the place to see if their was any interest in employment. Jeff had a job with Kurt Donsbach at Santa . When Jeff started Europa he had a great hostility toward Donsbach. I told him that Donsbach was no saint (as anyone can tell you) but that this is a small world and it doesn't make sense to unnecessarily make enemies. Much of the hostility centered on ownership of microwave hyperthemia equipment. Filiberto Munoz also worked with Donsbach for a while including running the hyperthermia equipment and he too felt a bit of disillusionment in many of the therapies. Jeff and Filiberto are MD clinicians. I came to a parting of ways with both Cytopharma and with the Manner Clinic. I had taught the chemists at Cytopharma how to make Deprenyl but they couldn't get a license to manufacture and distribute it at that time. My deal with the Del Rios and the Manner Clinic was that I would serve as director and that my remuneration would be 15% of gross. Andy McNaughton (RIP) brought in Wilner who lost his Florida medical license for using ozone. Rob Wilner made a deal to run the Manner Clinic for 12-1/2% of gross and the Del Rios thought that this was a better deal. Dr Wilner and I did not get along at first. I refused to wear a tie and he refused to give up smoking. I also thought he was too much of a showboat and was convincing himself of nonsense. His downfall was when he convinced himself that HIV did not cause AIDS. He injected himself with AIDS-tainted blood before an audience in Spain. Soon after he died of AIDS. Del Rio then invited Hulda to the Manner Clinic. He had to do something to bring in patients. He told me that he had to let her go as all her patients were dying. I did not talk to Hulda but I feel sure that there are two sides to this story. I was not interested in returning to the Manner Clinic as money was not being put back into improving patient services and I did not like backstage micromanagement by the Del Rio brothers. The Manner Clinic is now closed. This is unfortunate as it was one of the first clinics and many patients did very well in the days that Harold Manner developed the therapies. About 1992 I began working with Len Sands at the San Diego Clinic. It began as a herpes clinic. It was easy work (nine to five), the treatments were very effective, but what could be more boring than painting genitals all day long. One physician who worked for us was Martha Munoz. She is an excellent physician who now does the Whole Body Hyperthermia at the San Diego Clinic. Her husband Filiberto was a physician at Santa , at the Hoxey clinic, and a couple of other places before he started to work with Jeff Freeman at Europa. Jeff and Filiberto worked out well for a while. They both brought different things to the table. Jeff's wife ( ,MD) took over doing the microwave hyperthermia which was the main attraction at Europa. Personally I liked Jeff a lot but his health went downhill. He was semi-crippled from what appeared to be an earlier stroke. He developed heart disease and diabetes. He had to spend more and more time away from the clinic and hospitalized that the clinic suite that he put together in the Lloyd building had to close. Carolyn Borman came to Tijuana and tried to recruit patients for Europa. I thought this was a plus as she seems intelligent; she was certainly industrious. Europa's prices were too high and neither Jeff nor had people skills. Jeff would get cranky by afternoon and I always thought that seemed a bit uncomfortable with alternative medicine. I was hoping that with Carolyn doing the marketing that prices would drop. Both Filiberto and I brought many patients there for microwave hyperthermia. Joyce Palau also had a clinic with a quality microwave hyperthermia. They both had their pluses and minuses. Neither clinic seemed to be familiar with sensitizers nor were they willing to push it to the limits of what the equipment can do. Microwave hyperthermia is a regional hyperthermia that reaches to a depth of about two centimeters -- almost an inch. Occasionally you could slow perfusion through a deeper tumor by injecting xylocaine with epinephrine and this would allow heat to build. Microwave hyperthermia is often my strong recommendation with certain small breast cancers and with most squamous cell cancers of the neck. Some patients have done well with hyperthermia with radiation. For patients who chose this option I recommend various sensitizers depending on the case. Normally I am not a fan of radiation and don't encourage it, but I have seen it help save the day with certain brain cancers and intractable bone pain. Filiberto quit Europe to work with Len Sands at the San Diego Clinic. The emphasis at the SDC at that time was mostly the German immune therapies and the mycoplasma vaccine. This vaccine was developed by Dr. Scheidl who taught not only Dr. Issels but a number of other people in Tijuana. I don't make it as it is an older technology, but I am considering writing a book that will spell out the procedure. The best profit center for Jeff was the microwave hyperthermia. He and would often try to package it into ten sessions. With sensitizers I could usually get it down to three sessions and a tumor would resolve, but I pushed it on the heat and duration -- and the sensitizers would often cause nausea. Most people think that, well, this is nothing but heat and heat is doable, but hyperthermia is a real treatment and it can be extremely draining. After funding the development of some remarkable vaccines Len Sands died of old age and a confluence of ailments and Filiberto took over the SDC. He purchased a fancy German Whole Body Hyperthermia. It is an excellent computer controlled device and dovetailed neatly into the use of meds that were developed through the generous funding of Loren Parks. Results began to climb faster and we began to discard other treatments that sounded good but just didn't pan out in the real world. I think Carolyn mentioned a few that Jeff used before he lost his health. Jeff needed something else to bring patients in and began working with Hoffman using cesium and aloe. I have no idea how well this worked out. I was uncomfortable with the notion as it seemed a bit dangerous and I did know of one disaster where Hoffman gave it to a woman with a chemo-damaged heart and she sank. Jeff resolved to minimize his working relationship with Hoffman. Jeff and tried working with Wm Hitt who was making lots of money spinning down patient urine, adding benzocaine and injecting it back into the patient. I bet they didn't teach Dr Hitt that in med school. I sat and talked with Dr. Hitt one day. He wore the world's whitest lab jacket and had absolutely nothing on his desk. I made a mental note to never let him see my desk. I hoped that Jeff would not get too involved with Bill Hitt. was extremely supportive of Jeff. What I thought she lacked in the human relations department she more than made up in supporting her husband. She took jobs at other clinics and worked, worked, worked. I began to see a side of her that I hold in the highest respect. Meanwhile Carolyn continued developing her business. This includes sales of a whole body hyperthermia device that has a very clean and modern look to it. I don't know what such devices normally sell for, but the prices she quoted did not seem unfair. I think that Carolyn is offering a real service by selling these things. For the last three years I have operated a non-profit organization in Solana Beach (The Center for the Study of Natural Oncology) which is about 40 minutes north of the border. Our main purpose has been to develop straightforward medicines and strategies that work for cancer. We try to keep things as natural and safe as possible. One of the goals is to find ways to put such treatments under the patient's own control so they no longer have to rely on expensive clinics and costly meds. We also try to determine which popular alternative treatments are being oversold. The Center has worked very well with the SDC over the years and by patients arranging their treatment through our non-profit they can get many of their costs cut. For those patients who have no money we still try to find some treatment that will help. If we can find another donor we will make the lab and maybe the SDC both part of the non-profit. We will also establish a place where patients can stay -- something like a hospice only our intention will be to rescue the patient, not ferry them across that dreaded river. I have discussed this in the past. We accept donations from private people, from foundations, and from most corporations. We won't accept money from pharmaceutical companies nor from government. Currently the Center is without funding, everyone is volunteer, and I've been funding the office and lab rent with home equity and credit cards. This will cease in December if something doesn't come together fast. If there is anyone on the list who wants a tax write off and wants to see the incredible uniqueness of our Center, come down and spend a week or two with me. You will see the vast majority of difficult cases turn around. I have a philosophy of operating everything with absolute transparency. As time allows we will be teaching other clinics and clinicians how we approach cases. We never try to convince anyone of anything. That is not the way we work. We sit down with the patient and problem solve. The whole idea is to develop a treatment plan for a sustainable remission that can be put in the hands of the patient. I personally prefer the stage 3 and stage 4 cases. There are many alternative clinics that can routinely provide competent help with early cancers. Bob Hurt asked me if I would write about various treatments, when they work and when they don't. I will try to as I find time but the job at hand is to keep the non-profit going. 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Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Thank you for this detailed information. If you want I can give you some more inforamtion about hyperthermy in Europe where also in certain special clincis, also in regular academic hospitals, hyperthermy develops very very fast and wiht good succeses and for reasonalbel prices. and even some patients get theier hyperthermy poayed by insurecancecompanies. Not all of them but we are close to that. . In the hospitals in Berlin and Nurnberg they use now very advanced machines for hyperthermy in combination with radiation and chemo. This week I will write the story of a Dutch man at my website who was treated in april-may 2004 for his relapse of prostatecancer with nanotecnology wich is not more or less a combination of brachytherapy-hyperthermy and magnettherapy. Very very interesting and this man has now already for six months after the last treatment a PSA of 0.05. and it has been for months and months around 6-8 before the treatment. his quality of life is excellent. The man is 69 years old. But I hope to write more about this all next week. Gr. kees Braam > > Carolyn (and list), > I thought that I would give you a little of the background of some > of > the Tijuana cancer clinics during the years before you came to Tijuana to > recruit patients for Jeff Freeman. > I first met Jeff when I was medical director of the Manner > Clinic. This was before Wilner took over in about 1991. Del > Rio (one of the owners) gave Jeff a tour of the place to see if their was > any interest in employment. Jeff had a job with Kurt Donsbach at Santa > . When Jeff started Europa he had a great hostility toward > Donsbach. I told him that Donsbach was no saint (as anyone can tell you) > but that this is a small world and it doesn't make sense to unnecessarily > make enemies. Much of the hostility centered on ownership of microwave > hyperthemia equipment. Filiberto Munoz also worked with Donsbach for a > while including running the hyperthermia equipment and he too felt a bit > of > disillusionment in many of the therapies. Jeff and Filiberto are MD > clinicians. > I came to a parting of ways with both Cytopharma and with the Manner > Clinic. I had taught the chemists at Cytopharma how to make Deprenyl but > they couldn't get a license to manufacture and distribute it at that > time. My deal with the Del Rios and the Manner Clinic was that I would > serve as director and that my remuneration would be 15% of gross. Andy > McNaughton (RIP) brought in Wilner who lost his Florida medical > license for using ozone. Rob Wilner made a deal to run the Manner Clinic > for 12-1/2% of gross and the Del Rios thought that this was a better deal. > Dr Wilner and I did not get along at first. I refused to wear a > tie > and he refused to give up smoking. I also thought he was too much of a > showboat and was convincing himself of nonsense. His downfall was when > he > convinced himself that HIV did not cause AIDS. He injected himself with > AIDS-tainted blood before an audience in Spain. Soon after he died of > AIDS. > Del Rio then invited Hulda to the Manner Clinic. He > had > to do something to bring in patients. He told me that he had to let her > go > as all her patients were dying. I did not talk to Hulda but I feel sure > that there are two sides to this story. I was not interested in returning > to the Manner Clinic as money was not being put back into improving > patient > services and I did not like backstage micromanagement by the Del Rio > brothers. The Manner Clinic is now closed. This is unfortunate as it was > one of the first clinics and many patients did very well in the days that > Harold Manner developed the therapies. > About 1992 I began working with Len Sands at the San Diego > Clinic. It began as a herpes clinic. It was easy work (nine to five), > the > treatments were very effective, but what could be more boring than > painting > genitals all day long. One physician who worked for us was Martha > Munoz. She is an excellent physician who now does the Whole Body > Hyperthermia at the San Diego Clinic. Her husband Filiberto was a > physician at Santa , at the Hoxey clinic, and a couple of other > places before he started to work with Jeff Freeman at Europa. > Jeff and Filiberto worked out well for a while. They both brought > different things to the table. Jeff's wife ( ,MD) > took > over doing the microwave hyperthermia which was the main attraction at > Europa. Personally I liked Jeff a lot but his health went downhill. He > was semi-crippled from what appeared to be an earlier stroke. He > developed > heart disease and diabetes. He had to spend more and more time away from > the clinic and hospitalized that the clinic suite that he put together in > the Lloyd building had to close. Carolyn Borman came to Tijuana and tried > to recruit patients for Europa. I thought this was a plus as she seems > intelligent; she was certainly industrious. Europa's prices were too high > and neither Jeff nor had people skills. Jeff would get cranky by > afternoon and I always thought that seemed a bit uncomfortable with > alternative medicine. I was hoping that with Carolyn doing the marketing > that prices would drop. > Both Filiberto and I brought many patients there for microwave > hyperthermia. Joyce Palau also had a clinic with a quality microwave > hyperthermia. They both had their pluses and minuses. Neither clinic > seemed to be familiar with sensitizers nor were they willing to push it to > the limits of what the equipment can do. Microwave hyperthermia is a > regional hyperthermia that reaches to a depth of about two centimeters -- > almost an inch. Occasionally you could slow perfusion through a deeper > tumor by injecting xylocaine with epinephrine and this would allow heat to > build. Microwave hyperthermia is often my strong recommendation with > certain small breast cancers and with most squamous cell cancers of the > neck. Some patients have done well with hyperthermia with radiation. For > patients who chose this option I recommend various sensitizers depending > on > the case. Normally I am not a fan of radiation and don't encourage it, > but > I have seen it help save the day with certain brain cancers > and intractable bone pain. > Filiberto quit Europe to work with Len Sands at the San Diego > Clinic. The emphasis at the SDC at that time was mostly the German immune > therapies and the mycoplasma vaccine. This vaccine was developed by Dr. > Scheidl who taught not only Dr. Issels but a number of other people in > Tijuana. I don't make it as it is an older technology, but I am > considering writing a book that will spell out the procedure. > The best profit center for Jeff was the microwave hyperthermia. He > and would often try to package it into ten sessions. With > sensitizers I could usually get it down to three sessions and a tumor > would > resolve, but I pushed it on the heat and duration -- and the sensitizers > would often cause nausea. Most people think that, well, this is nothing > but heat and heat is doable, but hyperthermia is a real treatment and it > can be extremely draining. > After funding the development of some remarkable vaccines Len Sands > died of old age and a confluence of ailments and Filiberto took over the > SDC. He purchased a fancy German Whole Body Hyperthermia. It is an > excellent computer controlled device and dovetailed neatly into the use of > meds that were developed through the generous funding of Loren > Parks. Results began to climb faster and we began to discard other > treatments that sounded good but just didn't pan out in the real world. I > think Carolyn mentioned a few that Jeff used before he lost his health. > Jeff needed something else to bring patients in and began working > with Hoffman using cesium and aloe. I have no idea how well this worked > out. I was uncomfortable with the notion as it seemed a bit dangerous and > I did know of one disaster where Hoffman gave it to a woman with a > chemo-damaged heart and she sank. Jeff resolved to minimize his working > relationship with Hoffman. Jeff and tried working with Wm Hitt who > was making lots of money spinning down patient urine, adding benzocaine > and > injecting it back into the patient. I bet they didn't teach Dr Hitt that > in med school. I sat and talked with Dr. Hitt one day. He wore the > world's whitest lab jacket and had absolutely nothing on his desk. I made > a mental note to never let him see my desk. I hoped that Jeff would not > get too involved with Bill Hitt. > was extremely supportive of Jeff. What I thought > she lacked in the human relations department she more than made up in > supporting her husband. She took jobs at other clinics and worked, > worked, > worked. I began to see a side of her that I hold in the highest > respect. Meanwhile Carolyn continued developing her business. This > includes sales of a whole body hyperthermia device that has a very clean > and modern look to it. I don't know what such devices normally sell for, > but the prices she quoted did not seem unfair. I think that Carolyn is > offering a real service by selling these things. > For the last three years I have operated a non-profit organization > in Solana Beach (The Center for the Study of Natural Oncology) which is > about 40 minutes north of the border. Our main purpose has been to > develop > straightforward medicines and strategies that work for cancer. We try to > keep things as natural and safe as possible. One of the goals is to find > ways to put such treatments under the patient's own control so they no > longer have to rely on expensive clinics and costly meds. We also try to > determine which popular alternative treatments are being oversold. > The Center has worked very well with the SDC over the years and by > patients arranging their treatment through our non-profit they can get > many > of their costs cut. For those patients who have no money we still try to > find some treatment that will help. If we can find another donor we will > make the lab and maybe the SDC both part of the non-profit. We will also > establish a place where patients can stay -- something like a hospice only > our intention will be to rescue the patient, not ferry them across that > dreaded river. I have discussed this in the past. > We accept donations from private people, from foundations, and from > most corporations. We won't accept money from pharmaceutical companies > nor > from government. Currently the Center is without funding, everyone is > volunteer, and I've been funding the office and lab rent with home equity > and credit cards. This will cease in December if something doesn't come > together fast. If there is anyone on the list who wants a tax write off > and wants to see the incredible uniqueness of our Center, come down and > spend a week or two with me. You will see the vast majority of difficult > cases turn around. I have a philosophy of operating everything with > absolute transparency. As time allows we will be teaching other clinics > and clinicians how we approach cases. > We never try to convince anyone of anything. That is not the way we > work. We sit down with the patient and problem solve. The whole idea is > to develop a treatment plan for a sustainable remission that can be put in > the hands of the patient. I personally prefer the stage 3 and stage 4 > cases. There are many alternative clinics that can routinely provide > competent help with early cancers. > Bob Hurt asked me if I would write about various treatments, when > they work and when they don't. I will try to as I find time but the job > at > hand is to keep the non-profit going. > > VIncent > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. > Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by > visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Wow! Interesting!!! Thanks!! Bob B. Mexican cancer clinics > > Carolyn (and list), > I thought that I would give you a little of the background of some of > the Tijuana cancer clinics during the years before you came to Tijuana to > recruit patients for Jeff Freeman. > I first met Jeff when I was medical director of the Manner > Clinic. This was before Wilner took over in about 1991. Del > Rio (one of the owners) gave Jeff a tour of the place to see if their was > any interest in employment. Jeff had a job with Kurt Donsbach at Santa > . When Jeff started Europa he had a great hostility toward > Donsbach. I told him that Donsbach was no saint (as anyone can tell you) > but that this is a small world and it doesn't make sense to unnecessarily > make enemies. Much of the hostility centered on ownership of microwave > hyperthemia equipment. Filiberto Munoz also worked with Donsbach for a > while including running the hyperthermia equipment and he too felt a bit of > disillusionment in many of the therapies. Jeff and Filiberto are MD > clinicians. > I came to a parting of ways with both Cytopharma and with the Manner > Clinic. I had taught the chemists at Cytopharma how to make Deprenyl but > they couldn't get a license to manufacture and distribute it at that > time. My deal with the Del Rios and the Manner Clinic was that I would > serve as director and that my remuneration would be 15% of gross. Andy > McNaughton (RIP) brought in Wilner who lost his Florida medical > license for using ozone. Rob Wilner made a deal to run the Manner Clinic > for 12-1/2% of gross and the Del Rios thought that this was a better deal. > Dr Wilner and I did not get along at first. I refused to wear a tie > and he refused to give up smoking. I also thought he was too much of a > showboat and was convincing himself of nonsense. His downfall was when he > convinced himself that HIV did not cause AIDS. He injected himself with > AIDS-tainted blood before an audience in Spain. Soon after he died of AIDS. > Del Rio then invited Hulda to the Manner Clinic. He had > to do something to bring in patients. He told me that he had to let her go > as all her patients were dying. I did not talk to Hulda but I feel sure > that there are two sides to this story. I was not interested in returning > to the Manner Clinic as money was not being put back into improving patient > services and I did not like backstage micromanagement by the Del Rio > brothers. The Manner Clinic is now closed. This is unfortunate as it was > one of the first clinics and many patients did very well in the days that > Harold Manner developed the therapies. > About 1992 I began working with Len Sands at the San Diego > Clinic. It began as a herpes clinic. It was easy work (nine to five), the > treatments were very effective, but what could be more boring than painting > genitals all day long. One physician who worked for us was Martha > Munoz. She is an excellent physician who now does the Whole Body > Hyperthermia at the San Diego Clinic. Her husband Filiberto was a > physician at Santa , at the Hoxey clinic, and a couple of other > places before he started to work with Jeff Freeman at Europa. > Jeff and Filiberto worked out well for a while. They both brought > different things to the table. Jeff's wife ( ,MD) took > over doing the microwave hyperthermia which was the main attraction at > Europa. Personally I liked Jeff a lot but his health went downhill. He > was semi-crippled from what appeared to be an earlier stroke. He developed > heart disease and diabetes. He had to spend more and more time away from > the clinic and hospitalized that the clinic suite that he put together in > the Lloyd building had to close. Carolyn Borman came to Tijuana and tried > to recruit patients for Europa. I thought this was a plus as she seems > intelligent; she was certainly industrious. Europa's prices were too high > and neither Jeff nor had people skills. Jeff would get cranky by > afternoon and I always thought that seemed a bit uncomfortable with > alternative medicine. I was hoping that with Carolyn doing the marketing > that prices would drop. > Both Filiberto and I brought many patients there for microwave > hyperthermia. Joyce Palau also had a clinic with a quality microwave > hyperthermia. They both had their pluses and minuses. Neither clinic > seemed to be familiar with sensitizers nor were they willing to push it to > the limits of what the equipment can do. Microwave hyperthermia is a > regional hyperthermia that reaches to a depth of about two centimeters -- > almost an inch. Occasionally you could slow perfusion through a deeper > tumor by injecting xylocaine with epinephrine and this would allow heat to > build. Microwave hyperthermia is often my strong recommendation with > certain small breast cancers and with most squamous cell cancers of the > neck. Some patients have done well with hyperthermia with radiation. For > patients who chose this option I recommend various sensitizers depending on > the case. Normally I am not a fan of radiation and don't encourage it, but > I have seen it help save the day with certain brain cancers > and intractable bone pain. > Filiberto quit Europe to work with Len Sands at the San Diego > Clinic. The emphasis at the SDC at that time was mostly the German immune > therapies and the mycoplasma vaccine. This vaccine was developed by Dr. > Scheidl who taught not only Dr. Issels but a number of other people in > Tijuana. I don't make it as it is an older technology, but I am > considering writing a book that will spell out the procedure. > The best profit center for Jeff was the microwave hyperthermia. He > and would often try to package it into ten sessions. With > sensitizers I could usually get it down to three sessions and a tumor would > resolve, but I pushed it on the heat and duration -- and the sensitizers > would often cause nausea. Most people think that, well, this is nothing > but heat and heat is doable, but hyperthermia is a real treatment and it > can be extremely draining. > After funding the development of some remarkable vaccines Len Sands > died of old age and a confluence of ailments and Filiberto took over the > SDC. He purchased a fancy German Whole Body Hyperthermia. It is an > excellent computer controlled device and dovetailed neatly into the use of > meds that were developed through the generous funding of Loren > Parks. Results began to climb faster and we began to discard other > treatments that sounded good but just didn't pan out in the real world. I > think Carolyn mentioned a few that Jeff used before he lost his health. > Jeff needed something else to bring patients in and began working > with Hoffman using cesium and aloe. I have no idea how well this worked > out. I was uncomfortable with the notion as it seemed a bit dangerous and > I did know of one disaster where Hoffman gave it to a woman with a > chemo-damaged heart and she sank. Jeff resolved to minimize his working > relationship with Hoffman. Jeff and tried working with Wm Hitt who > was making lots of money spinning down patient urine, adding benzocaine and > injecting it back into the patient. I bet they didn't teach Dr Hitt that > in med school. I sat and talked with Dr. Hitt one day. He wore the > world's whitest lab jacket and had absolutely nothing on his desk. I made > a mental note to never let him see my desk. I hoped that Jeff would not > get too involved with Bill Hitt. > was extremely supportive of Jeff. What I thought > she lacked in the human relations department she more than made up in > supporting her husband. She took jobs at other clinics and worked, worked, > worked. I began to see a side of her that I hold in the highest > respect. Meanwhile Carolyn continued developing her business. This > includes sales of a whole body hyperthermia device that has a very clean > and modern look to it. I don't know what such devices normally sell for, > but the prices she quoted did not seem unfair. I think that Carolyn is > offering a real service by selling these things. > For the last three years I have operated a non-profit organization > in Solana Beach (The Center for the Study of Natural Oncology) which is > about 40 minutes north of the border. Our main purpose has been to develop > straightforward medicines and strategies that work for cancer. We try to > keep things as natural and safe as possible. One of the goals is to find > ways to put such treatments under the patient's own control so they no > longer have to rely on expensive clinics and costly meds. We also try to > determine which popular alternative treatments are being oversold. > The Center has worked very well with the SDC over the years and by > patients arranging their treatment through our non-profit they can get many > of their costs cut. For those patients who have no money we still try to > find some treatment that will help. If we can find another donor we will > make the lab and maybe the SDC both part of the non-profit. We will also > establish a place where patients can stay -- something like a hospice only > our intention will be to rescue the patient, not ferry them across that > dreaded river. I have discussed this in the past. > We accept donations from private people, from foundations, and from > most corporations. We won't accept money from pharmaceutical companies nor > from government. Currently the Center is without funding, everyone is > volunteer, and I've been funding the office and lab rent with home equity > and credit cards. This will cease in December if something doesn't come > together fast. If there is anyone on the list who wants a tax write off > and wants to see the incredible uniqueness of our Center, come down and > spend a week or two with me. You will see the vast majority of difficult > cases turn around. I have a philosophy of operating everything with > absolute transparency. As time allows we will be teaching other clinics > and clinicians how we approach cases. > We never try to convince anyone of anything. That is not the way we > work. We sit down with the patient and problem solve. The whole idea is > to develop a treatment plan for a sustainable remission that can be put in > the hands of the patient. I personally prefer the stage 3 and stage 4 > cases. There are many alternative clinics that can routinely provide > competent help with early cancers. > Bob Hurt asked me if I would write about various treatments, when > they work and when they don't. I will try to as I find time but the job at > hand is to keep the non-profit going. > > VIncent > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Hi Ben, Please call me; I have many questions, before I can give you answers to your questions s. my cell number is : 269-876-8475. CALL ASAP DO NOT WORRY ABOUT ANY TIME ZONES. I am IN California now. call me i can help you. I have been doing this for over 14 years, i can and will help you! you just just need to tale take the first step and call me. I can help you; again the the number is : 269-876-9475 anytime., JUST CALL. I HAVE BEEN HELPING PEOPLE FOR 14 YEARS. IF YOU GET MY VOICE MAIL PLEASE LEAVE YOUR NAME AN A NUMBER I CAN REACH YOU AT. nanukalaska <no_reply > wrote: I'd like to hear from anyone who has used the mexico clinics, esp. those with colon cancer. Bud Visit http://cures for cancer.ws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 From: " nanukalaska " <no_reply > > I'd like to hear from anyone who has used the mexico clinics, esp. > those with colon cancer. > Bud Haven't used any of the clinics but know a alot about them & know many people who've used them. Let me know if there's any specific info I can provide you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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