Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Randall, January 7 will mark 22 years since I was given a medical death sentence. I stayed away from the medical system religiously and had no problems, no infections, no AIDS-defining illnesses, not even a cold until June of 2008. I used to joke that I'd have to be brought in on a stretcher before I'd see another M.D. (Merchants of Death.) In June of 2008, while walking alone on a quiet street (no traffic, no people) I suddenly felt a whirring in the back of my brain like I was being shot with some sort of electronic device. I got unbelievably dizzy and passed out on the street. I regained consciousness in an ER where thousands of dollars worth of diagnostic tests were performed and found nothing. I took a cab back to where I had left my car and drove home. A couple of days later, as is common with brain injuries (Remember Natasha .), I went into a semi-comatose state and had an almost complete loss of memory for six weeks. While hospitalized and subjected to all sorts of unnecessary, invasive, dangerous and harmful testing, including not one, not two, but THREE spinal taps. My stupid brother thought it necessary to tell the doctor that I was gay. That led to an HIV test and being FORCED (not pressured -- forced) to take AZT, other horrible drugs that went against my basic beliefs, and then left on addictive Atripla. It took me over a year to get off the meds, but I'm still not over the damage they did and don't know if I'll ever fully recover. They say these drugs can make some people suicidal. Well for more than a year, not a day went by where my mind wasn't filled with thoughts of murdering the doctor who did this to me. " If you don't take your medications, YOU'RE GONNA DIE! " she yelled at me, like the witch in the Wizard of Oz. Well, if I can't get justice for what was done to me, I'm buying a gun. Give your friend a chance to educate herself. Have her watch all the documentaries on Positivelyfalse.com, listen to the podcasts on Howpositiveareyou.com and spend a few days reviewing the information at rethinkingaids.com. If that isn't enough to get her apologize to you, drop her. Stupid friends can be hazardous to your health. It took me over a year to find a doctor who would help me get off the drugs safely and I still haven't found a lawyer to help me get justice. Ed In a message dated 1/4/2010 12:29:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nonyobiznazz@... writes: Hi guys, Happy New Year to all. I am going through a rough time as I have a dear friend who is worried about me and is pressuring me to look into taking the antiviral drugs " if need be. " She already knows how I feel about the drugs as the thought of taking them for the rest of my life is a total nightmare. I'd rather just go ahead and croak! I've seen people who have taken the drugs for long periods of time and their faces are all sunk in or their skin is very thin (you can see their veins very easily), some have humps on their necks/backs, and so on. I'm sorry, I just know that HIV doesn't do all that to a person. Those are effects from long term use of those drugs! Right now I look healthy and my face is " full. " I just know that if I start those drugs, that in a few years, my face is going to sink in and my body fat is totally going to disappear and I will " look like I have AIDS. " I've seen this so many times. So yeah, my dear friend is tellin g me " please go look into getting meds and take care of yourself. " She means well but in her mind I'm going to die a horrible slow death if I don't take the drugs. Long before I tested positive, I always told myself that I would never take those drugs. I don't know why, but my gut feeling always told me that the drugs were dangerous long term. This is before I even knew of the dissident information. I just had a strong feeling that something was not right about the HIV meds. Altho my friend means well, it hurts in a way when she keeps saying it almost everytime we talk. I just wish I knew alot of people who have lived 10-20+ years without taking the drugs. I've heard it a few times from internet videos and dissident sites but I don't know of a person in my life or around me that has had this experience. It would definitely be encouraging! A part of me believes that if you BELIEVE you're going to die because of HIV/AIDS without the drugs, then most likely you will and then another part of me is just confused and really don't know what to do! I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers.I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers.<WBR>com website and it presents a whole different approach to HIV/AIDS. I wish and pray with all my heart that what they say is true on that site. Since it was presented that HIV is a death sentence without the drugs years ago, it just really messes people up psychologically. Sometimes you feel trapped and don't see a way out but I'm honestly doing my best to stay away from the AIDS clinics/doctors. Popping pills the rest of my life that I know are not healthy long-term sounds like a I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers.<WBR>com we Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Randall, January 7 will mark 22 years since I was given a medical death sentence. I stayed away from the medical system religiously and had no problems, no infections, no AIDS-defining illnesses, not even a cold until June of 2008. I used to joke that I'd have to be brought in on a stretcher before I'd see another M.D. (Merchants of Death.) In June of 2008, while walking alone on a quiet street (no traffic, no people) I suddenly felt a whirring in the back of my brain like I was being shot with some sort of electronic device. I got unbelievably dizzy and passed out on the street. I regained consciousness in an ER where thousands of dollars worth of diagnostic tests were performed and found nothing. I took a cab back to where I had left my car and drove home. A couple of days later, as is common with brain injuries (Remember Natasha .), I went into a semi-comatose state and had an almost complete loss of memory for six weeks. While hospitalized and subjected to all sorts of unnecessary, invasive, dangerous and harmful testing, including not one, not two, but THREE spinal taps. My stupid brother thought it necessary to tell the doctor that I was gay. That led to an HIV test and being FORCED (not pressured -- forced) to take AZT, other horrible drugs that went against my basic beliefs, and then left on addictive Atripla. It took me over a year to get off the meds, but I'm still not over the damage they did and don't know if I'll ever fully recover. They say these drugs can make some people suicidal. Well for more than a year, not a day went by where my mind wasn't filled with thoughts of murdering the doctor who did this to me. " If you don't take your medications, YOU'RE GONNA DIE! " she yelled at me, like the witch in the Wizard of Oz. Well, if I can't get justice for what was done to me, I'm buying a gun. Give your friend a chance to educate herself. Have her watch all the documentaries on Positivelyfalse.com, listen to the podcasts on Howpositiveareyou.com and spend a few days reviewing the information at rethinkingaids.com. If that isn't enough to get her apologize to you, drop her. Stupid friends can be hazardous to your health. It took me over a year to find a doctor who would help me get off the drugs safely and I still haven't found a lawyer to help me get justice. Ed In a message dated 1/4/2010 12:29:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nonyobiznazz@... writes: Hi guys, Happy New Year to all. I am going through a rough time as I have a dear friend who is worried about me and is pressuring me to look into taking the antiviral drugs " if need be. " She already knows how I feel about the drugs as the thought of taking them for the rest of my life is a total nightmare. I'd rather just go ahead and croak! I've seen people who have taken the drugs for long periods of time and their faces are all sunk in or their skin is very thin (you can see their veins very easily), some have humps on their necks/backs, and so on. I'm sorry, I just know that HIV doesn't do all that to a person. Those are effects from long term use of those drugs! Right now I look healthy and my face is " full. " I just know that if I start those drugs, that in a few years, my face is going to sink in and my body fat is totally going to disappear and I will " look like I have AIDS. " I've seen this so many times. So yeah, my dear friend is tellin g me " please go look into getting meds and take care of yourself. " She means well but in her mind I'm going to die a horrible slow death if I don't take the drugs. Long before I tested positive, I always told myself that I would never take those drugs. I don't know why, but my gut feeling always told me that the drugs were dangerous long term. This is before I even knew of the dissident information. I just had a strong feeling that something was not right about the HIV meds. Altho my friend means well, it hurts in a way when she keeps saying it almost everytime we talk. I just wish I knew alot of people who have lived 10-20+ years without taking the drugs. I've heard it a few times from internet videos and dissident sites but I don't know of a person in my life or around me that has had this experience. It would definitely be encouraging! A part of me believes that if you BELIEVE you're going to die because of HIV/AIDS without the drugs, then most likely you will and then another part of me is just confused and really don't know what to do! I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers.I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers.<WBR>com website and it presents a whole different approach to HIV/AIDS. I wish and pray with all my heart that what they say is true on that site. Since it was presented that HIV is a death sentence without the drugs years ago, it just really messes people up psychologically. Sometimes you feel trapped and don't see a way out but I'm honestly doing my best to stay away from the AIDS clinics/doctors. Popping pills the rest of my life that I know are not healthy long-term sounds like a I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers.<WBR>com we Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hi guys, Happy New Year to all. I am going through a rough time as I have a dear friend who is worried about me and is pressuring me to look into taking the antiviral drugs " if need be. " She already knows how I feel about the drugs as the thought of taking them for the rest of my life is a total nightmare. I'd rather just go ahead and croak! I've seen people who have taken the drugs for long periods of time and their faces are all sunk in or their skin is very thin (you can see their veins very easily), some have humps on their necks/backs, and so on. I'm sorry, I just know that HIV doesn't do all that to a person. Those are effects from long term use of those drugs! Right now I look healthy and my face is " full. " I just know that if I start those drugs, that in a few years, my face is going to sink in and my body fat is totally going to disappear and I will " look like I have AIDS. " I've seen this so many times. So yeah, my dear friend is telling me " please go look into getting meds and take care of yourself. " She means well but in her mind I'm going to die a horrible slow death if I don't take the drugs. Long before I tested positive, I always told myself that I would never take those drugs. I don't know why, but my gut feeling always told me that the drugs were dangerous long term. This is before I even knew of the dissident information. I just had a strong feeling that something was not right about the HIV meds. Altho my friend means well, it hurts in a way when she keeps saying it almost everytime we talk. I just wish I knew alot of people who have lived 10-20+ years without taking the drugs. I've heard it a few times from internet videos and dissident sites but I don't know of a person in my life or around me that has had this experience. It would definitely be encouraging! A part of me believes that if you BELIEVE you're going to die because of HIV/AIDS without the drugs, then most likely you will and then another part of me is just confused and really don't know what to do! I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers.com website and it presents a whole different approach to HIV/AIDS. I wish and pray with all my heart that what they say is true on that site. Since it was presented that HIV is a death sentence without the drugs years ago, it just really messes people up psychologically. Sometimes you feel trapped and don't see a way out but I'm honestly doing my best to stay away from the AIDS clinics/doctors. Popping pills the rest of my life that I know are not healthy long-term sounds like a total nightmare. I will accept any encouragement/advice/insight that anyone here wants to share. Thanks. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hi guys, Happy New Year to all. I am going through a rough time as I have a dear friend who is worried about me and is pressuring me to look into taking the antiviral drugs " if need be. " She already knows how I feel about the drugs as the thought of taking them for the rest of my life is a total nightmare. I'd rather just go ahead and croak! I've seen people who have taken the drugs for long periods of time and their faces are all sunk in or their skin is very thin (you can see their veins very easily), some have humps on their necks/backs, and so on. I'm sorry, I just know that HIV doesn't do all that to a person. Those are effects from long term use of those drugs! Right now I look healthy and my face is " full. " I just know that if I start those drugs, that in a few years, my face is going to sink in and my body fat is totally going to disappear and I will " look like I have AIDS. " I've seen this so many times. So yeah, my dear friend is telling me " please go look into getting meds and take care of yourself. " She means well but in her mind I'm going to die a horrible slow death if I don't take the drugs. Long before I tested positive, I always told myself that I would never take those drugs. I don't know why, but my gut feeling always told me that the drugs were dangerous long term. This is before I even knew of the dissident information. I just had a strong feeling that something was not right about the HIV meds. Altho my friend means well, it hurts in a way when she keeps saying it almost everytime we talk. I just wish I knew alot of people who have lived 10-20+ years without taking the drugs. I've heard it a few times from internet videos and dissident sites but I don't know of a person in my life or around me that has had this experience. It would definitely be encouraging! A part of me believes that if you BELIEVE you're going to die because of HIV/AIDS without the drugs, then most likely you will and then another part of me is just confused and really don't know what to do! I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers.com website and it presents a whole different approach to HIV/AIDS. I wish and pray with all my heart that what they say is true on that site. Since it was presented that HIV is a death sentence without the drugs years ago, it just really messes people up psychologically. Sometimes you feel trapped and don't see a way out but I'm honestly doing my best to stay away from the AIDS clinics/doctors. Popping pills the rest of my life that I know are not healthy long-term sounds like a total nightmare. I will accept any encouragement/advice/insight that anyone here wants to share. Thanks. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years. During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years. During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Noreen and Ed, thank you guys so much for YOUR TIME in reading and responding to my post. Noreen, I find your story interesting because you don't really encourage one to take the antivirals yet to don't discourage anyone either as in your life, you have found that they actually DO help you. Yes, I have heard this from other people that the drugs have saved their life. Then I've heard those who say they have so many side effects. One guy told me just recently, that it was hard for a week after taking them, then his body just adjusted and now he doesn't have any side effects whatsoever. He says he's healthy, his viral load is undetectable, and his cd4 counts are fine. So when I hear all that, I get confused and wonder if I'm doing the right thing by avoiding the doctors.  I haven't even gone to have ANY blood work done. As soon as I found out my diagnosis, I never returned. I just didn't want to go through the pressure of them telling me that I had to take " cocktails " for the rest of my life. I don't know, it just sounds so scary and after seeing people who have been on them for long periods, I get even more afraid as I see that their physical appearance has changed. I know HIV didn't do that - it's those freakin' toxic drugs that's " saving their lives. "  I'd rather die than have my appearance altered by some " life saving drugs. "  Ed, your story is very interesting also and unlike Noreen, you don't feel the drugs are helpful at all in the sense of it's long term harmful effects. I would like to congratulate you on living 22 years after your diagnosis! Wow! How long have you been off the meds Ed? How do you feel? Do you still get blood work done? Thank you so much guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM  Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years.. During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Noreen and Ed, thank you guys so much for YOUR TIME in reading and responding to my post. Noreen, I find your story interesting because you don't really encourage one to take the antivirals yet to don't discourage anyone either as in your life, you have found that they actually DO help you. Yes, I have heard this from other people that the drugs have saved their life. Then I've heard those who say they have so many side effects. One guy told me just recently, that it was hard for a week after taking them, then his body just adjusted and now he doesn't have any side effects whatsoever. He says he's healthy, his viral load is undetectable, and his cd4 counts are fine. So when I hear all that, I get confused and wonder if I'm doing the right thing by avoiding the doctors.  I haven't even gone to have ANY blood work done. As soon as I found out my diagnosis, I never returned. I just didn't want to go through the pressure of them telling me that I had to take " cocktails " for the rest of my life. I don't know, it just sounds so scary and after seeing people who have been on them for long periods, I get even more afraid as I see that their physical appearance has changed. I know HIV didn't do that - it's those freakin' toxic drugs that's " saving their lives. "  I'd rather die than have my appearance altered by some " life saving drugs. "  Ed, your story is very interesting also and unlike Noreen, you don't feel the drugs are helpful at all in the sense of it's long term harmful effects. I would like to congratulate you on living 22 years after your diagnosis! Wow! How long have you been off the meds Ed? How do you feel? Do you still get blood work done? Thank you so much guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM  Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years.. During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 It's all in YOUR hands honey. Only you can gain control of your health. Many people chose to leave it in the hands a pharama prescription pill giving, over paid, nazi who is not different than you and I. Yet he gets payed millions to poison you. Now we have the proper resources to make our own research and pass the knowledge to others. Like you said many people have thanked Meds in saving their lives, but at what cost? My mother has been type 2 diabetic for 20+ years. The drug Metformin sure did the trick of regulating her blood sugars but now fast forward 20 years later, doctors NEVER told her that drug causes kidney damage. Now she's in dialysis. I hate having to see her connected to a machine every night. My mother is 49 she's still young. If you want to take these meds and keep your TCells high and keep your viral load low at the expense of them rotting your liver, kidney, and pancreas away then go ahead. Just the other day I got over a Flu in 1 day! 1 day! My last test results revealed that my T-Cells are 200. Well then how the Hell did I get over a Flu with 105 fever in one day. I'm begining to see how much these people are full of crap! It's all making sense to me now. I was diagnosed 2 years ago when I went to the hospital with horrible flu like symptoms. The doctors couldn't find anything wrong with me. Once I mentioned to them I was gay they came and told me the HIV test came out positive. They seemed so quick to want to diagnose me with something since they didn't know what the hell was wrong with me. The next day my appendix ruptured and I was rushed to the ER where I had to be cut all over the place because the ruptured appendix had leaked all over my insides. My stomach is so slashed right now I look like I was in a gang fight. Those " Symptoms " I was having were from appendicitis not HIV, they have similar symptoms though. Once the people from the clinic heard the word GAY...it was as if poof! I have HIV. Once diagnosed with HIV your name goes on the system and the department of health will forward all your information about your " infection " to everyone and their moms! I can't use my name and social secrity number at any clinic because by the time I get there they have ALL my information. I've met more people who have died from HIV related problems that were on meds. These meds damage your vital organs and when you do get sick and need your organs to function properly they're going to fail on you! Everyone I know who is NOT on meds is living happy and normal. My face isn't wasted, my body never aches, I don't get fatigue. When I was on meds I got all those side effects and I got more sick. Once you're labeled with the disease it's the doctors job to keep you alive and sick. simple as that. I work in clinical research, I know all the crap they put in medicines, I know how this is all a business, heck most drugs that are approved were drugs that were intended for something completely different. Viagra and Rogain were both drugs being tested for High Blood Pressure. The side effects for one drug was hair grow the other had a side-effect of men getting boners! Now they're drugs prescribed and used for that purpose. So many drugs approved by the FDA happened out of coincidence. I take my oxygen water daily to keep my good cells and vital organs oxygenated, I take my anti oxidants, cleanse my body with herbal teas and vitamins. I do everything needed to take care of my body and keep it well guarded as anyone healthy or not should do. I feel the power is in my hands and I'm the one in control. I don't depend on some toxic infested drug or some doctor to tell me what to do. I'll admit I'm a little over weight, I'm going to the gym to try and slim up a bit. I was told the HIV was going to do that for me, but no. I'm more healthy as I have ever been. I wish you the best of luck and know that we are always here for you.  From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM  Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years.. During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 It's all in YOUR hands honey. Only you can gain control of your health. Many people chose to leave it in the hands a pharama prescription pill giving, over paid, nazi who is not different than you and I. Yet he gets payed millions to poison you. Now we have the proper resources to make our own research and pass the knowledge to others. Like you said many people have thanked Meds in saving their lives, but at what cost? My mother has been type 2 diabetic for 20+ years. The drug Metformin sure did the trick of regulating her blood sugars but now fast forward 20 years later, doctors NEVER told her that drug causes kidney damage. Now she's in dialysis. I hate having to see her connected to a machine every night. My mother is 49 she's still young. If you want to take these meds and keep your TCells high and keep your viral load low at the expense of them rotting your liver, kidney, and pancreas away then go ahead. Just the other day I got over a Flu in 1 day! 1 day! My last test results revealed that my T-Cells are 200. Well then how the Hell did I get over a Flu with 105 fever in one day. I'm begining to see how much these people are full of crap! It's all making sense to me now. I was diagnosed 2 years ago when I went to the hospital with horrible flu like symptoms. The doctors couldn't find anything wrong with me. Once I mentioned to them I was gay they came and told me the HIV test came out positive. They seemed so quick to want to diagnose me with something since they didn't know what the hell was wrong with me. The next day my appendix ruptured and I was rushed to the ER where I had to be cut all over the place because the ruptured appendix had leaked all over my insides. My stomach is so slashed right now I look like I was in a gang fight. Those " Symptoms " I was having were from appendicitis not HIV, they have similar symptoms though. Once the people from the clinic heard the word GAY...it was as if poof! I have HIV. Once diagnosed with HIV your name goes on the system and the department of health will forward all your information about your " infection " to everyone and their moms! I can't use my name and social secrity number at any clinic because by the time I get there they have ALL my information. I've met more people who have died from HIV related problems that were on meds. These meds damage your vital organs and when you do get sick and need your organs to function properly they're going to fail on you! Everyone I know who is NOT on meds is living happy and normal. My face isn't wasted, my body never aches, I don't get fatigue. When I was on meds I got all those side effects and I got more sick. Once you're labeled with the disease it's the doctors job to keep you alive and sick. simple as that. I work in clinical research, I know all the crap they put in medicines, I know how this is all a business, heck most drugs that are approved were drugs that were intended for something completely different. Viagra and Rogain were both drugs being tested for High Blood Pressure. The side effects for one drug was hair grow the other had a side-effect of men getting boners! Now they're drugs prescribed and used for that purpose. So many drugs approved by the FDA happened out of coincidence. I take my oxygen water daily to keep my good cells and vital organs oxygenated, I take my anti oxidants, cleanse my body with herbal teas and vitamins. I do everything needed to take care of my body and keep it well guarded as anyone healthy or not should do. I feel the power is in my hands and I'm the one in control. I don't depend on some toxic infested drug or some doctor to tell me what to do. I'll admit I'm a little over weight, I'm going to the gym to try and slim up a bit. I was told the HIV was going to do that for me, but no. I'm more healthy as I have ever been. I wish you the best of luck and know that we are always here for you.  From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM  Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years.. During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Wow thanks Don for that amazing response. It makes so much sense and it's how I feel inside. I just hope and pray that my (current) decision to avoid the drugs and the doctors will pay off in time. I am choosing to believe that my HIV diagnosis is not a death sentence WITHOUT the drugs. If the www.houseofnumbers.com website has valid points that are crucial to the world as it pertains to rethinking AIDS, I pray that the world will know soon! Once again thank you guys for all your time and support. I have not given into big pharma just yet and I pray that I will never have to! Have a great day guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Wow thanks Don for that amazing response. It makes so much sense and it's how I feel inside. I just hope and pray that my (current) decision to avoid the drugs and the doctors will pay off in time. I am choosing to believe that my HIV diagnosis is not a death sentence WITHOUT the drugs. If the www.houseofnumbers.com website has valid points that are crucial to the world as it pertains to rethinking AIDS, I pray that the world will know soon! Once again thank you guys for all your time and support. I have not given into big pharma just yet and I pray that I will never have to! Have a great day guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I know that I sent this one out a month ago, but I am having slow returns and am hoping that now after the holiday, people may have more time to help me out and participate Thank you to everyone who considers!!!! My name is Caroline Johanson and I am a Counseling Psychology doctoral student at Texas Woman’s University. I am currently collecting data for my dissertation entitled " Health related behaviors and specific biopsychosocial factors in women with HIV/AIDS. " I am requesting your assistance in participating in my study if you qualify and passing on this email to others whom you believe would be interested and qualified to participate in. My study has been approved by the Texas Woman’s University IRB, with listed contact below. LINK TO STUDY- https://www.psychdata.com/s.asp?SID=131808 Below is the listed information regarding my study. Thank you for considering to participate and passing along this information to others. Title: HEALTH RELATED BEHAVIORS AND SPECIFIC BIOPSYCHOSOCIAL FACTORS IN WOMEN WITH HIV/AIDS Investigator:Caroline Johanson, M.S., M.A. ..(940) 898-2212 Advisors: , Ph.D. …………………….(940) 898-2303 Rubin, Ph.D. ………………………………………... (940) 898-2303 LINK TO STUDY- https://www.psychdata.com/s.asp?SID=131808 Explanation and Purpose of Study You are being asked to participate in a research study for Ms. Johanson’s dissertation at Texas Woman’s University. The purpose of this research is to examine the possible impact of different health related behaviors on the quality of life for women who have HIV or AIDS. The study will also examine the possible connection between various factors and health related behaviors. You are only permitted to participate in this study once. Research Procedures For this study, you will be asked to complete, online, a packet of questionnaires about your beliefs and attitudes in regard to yourself and your life as well as your health related behaviors. You will not be asked at any time for identifying information, such as your name, address, or contact information. Your maximum total time commitment in the study is approximately 30 minutes. Potential Risks Potential risks in participating in this study include physical and emotional discomfort during and after filling out the online questionnaire. To avoid emotional discomfort or fatigue, you may take a break at anytime while you fill out the survey and are allowed to stop at any time. Listed below are resources that may be obtained via the internet: https://www.hivpro.com/sites/HIVPro/Pages/HomePage.aspx http://www.aidschat.org/ http://livingwithhiv.ning.com/ Another potential risk is the loss of confidentiality.Confidentiality will be protected to the extent that is allowed by law. No online tracking devices will be used in this study, for example, your computer’s IP address will not be saved or collected. It is anticipated that the results from this study will be published; however, no identifying material will be published at any time. There is a potential risk of loss of confidentiality in all email, downloading, and internet transaction. The researchers will try to prevent any problem that could happen because of this research. You should let the researchers know at once if there is a problem and they will help you. However, Texas Woman’s University does not provide medical services or financial assistance for injuries that might happen because you are taking part in this research. Participation and Benefit Your participation in this project is voluntary. Even after you agree to participate in the research or sign the informed consent document, you may decide to stop participating in the study at any time without penalty. You may stop at any time and are not required to complete any portion of the research you do not wish to for any reason. Although there is no direct benefit to you participating in this study, others may ultimately benefit from the knowledge gained from this research. If you wish to obtain results to this study, please feel free to contact any of the above investigators. Questions regarding this study If you have any questions about the research study, you may ask the researchers; their phone numbers are at the top of this form. If you have questions about your rights as a participant in this research or the way this study has been conducted, you may contact the Texas Woman’s University Office of Research and Sponsored Programs at 940-898-3378 or via e-mail at IRB@.... LINK TO STUDY- https://www.psychdata.com/s.asp?SID=131808 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I know that I sent this one out a month ago, but I am having slow returns and am hoping that now after the holiday, people may have more time to help me out and participate Thank you to everyone who considers!!!! My name is Caroline Johanson and I am a Counseling Psychology doctoral student at Texas Woman’s University. I am currently collecting data for my dissertation entitled " Health related behaviors and specific biopsychosocial factors in women with HIV/AIDS. " I am requesting your assistance in participating in my study if you qualify and passing on this email to others whom you believe would be interested and qualified to participate in. My study has been approved by the Texas Woman’s University IRB, with listed contact below. LINK TO STUDY- https://www.psychdata.com/s.asp?SID=131808 Below is the listed information regarding my study. Thank you for considering to participate and passing along this information to others. Title: HEALTH RELATED BEHAVIORS AND SPECIFIC BIOPSYCHOSOCIAL FACTORS IN WOMEN WITH HIV/AIDS Investigator:Caroline Johanson, M.S., M.A. ..(940) 898-2212 Advisors: , Ph.D. …………………….(940) 898-2303 Rubin, Ph.D. ………………………………………... (940) 898-2303 LINK TO STUDY- https://www.psychdata.com/s.asp?SID=131808 Explanation and Purpose of Study You are being asked to participate in a research study for Ms. Johanson’s dissertation at Texas Woman’s University. The purpose of this research is to examine the possible impact of different health related behaviors on the quality of life for women who have HIV or AIDS. The study will also examine the possible connection between various factors and health related behaviors. You are only permitted to participate in this study once. Research Procedures For this study, you will be asked to complete, online, a packet of questionnaires about your beliefs and attitudes in regard to yourself and your life as well as your health related behaviors. You will not be asked at any time for identifying information, such as your name, address, or contact information. Your maximum total time commitment in the study is approximately 30 minutes. Potential Risks Potential risks in participating in this study include physical and emotional discomfort during and after filling out the online questionnaire. To avoid emotional discomfort or fatigue, you may take a break at anytime while you fill out the survey and are allowed to stop at any time. Listed below are resources that may be obtained via the internet: https://www.hivpro.com/sites/HIVPro/Pages/HomePage.aspx http://www.aidschat.org/ http://livingwithhiv.ning.com/ Another potential risk is the loss of confidentiality.Confidentiality will be protected to the extent that is allowed by law. No online tracking devices will be used in this study, for example, your computer’s IP address will not be saved or collected. It is anticipated that the results from this study will be published; however, no identifying material will be published at any time. There is a potential risk of loss of confidentiality in all email, downloading, and internet transaction. The researchers will try to prevent any problem that could happen because of this research. You should let the researchers know at once if there is a problem and they will help you. However, Texas Woman’s University does not provide medical services or financial assistance for injuries that might happen because you are taking part in this research. Participation and Benefit Your participation in this project is voluntary. Even after you agree to participate in the research or sign the informed consent document, you may decide to stop participating in the study at any time without penalty. You may stop at any time and are not required to complete any portion of the research you do not wish to for any reason. Although there is no direct benefit to you participating in this study, others may ultimately benefit from the knowledge gained from this research. If you wish to obtain results to this study, please feel free to contact any of the above investigators. Questions regarding this study If you have any questions about the research study, you may ask the researchers; their phone numbers are at the top of this form. If you have questions about your rights as a participant in this research or the way this study has been conducted, you may contact the Texas Woman’s University Office of Research and Sponsored Programs at 940-898-3378 or via e-mail at IRB@.... LINK TO STUDY- https://www.psychdata.com/s.asp?SID=131808 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 " I take my oxygen water daily to keep my good cells and vital organs oxygenated " . Can you point me in the direction where by I can research more on Oxygen in water. cures for AIDS From: nonyobiznazz@... Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:34:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds Wow thanks Don for that amazing response. It makes so much sense and it's how I feel inside. I just hope and pray that my (current) decision to avoid the drugs and the doctors will pay off in time. I am choosing to believe that my HIV diagnosis is not a death sentence WITHOUT the drugs. If the www.houseofnumbers.com website has valid points that are crucial to the world as it pertains to rethinking AIDS, I pray that the world will know soon! Once again thank you guys for all your time and support. I have not given into big pharma just yet and I pray that I will never have to! Have a great day guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 " I take my oxygen water daily to keep my good cells and vital organs oxygenated " . Can you point me in the direction where by I can research more on Oxygen in water. cures for AIDS From: nonyobiznazz@... Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:34:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds Wow thanks Don for that amazing response. It makes so much sense and it's how I feel inside. I just hope and pray that my (current) decision to avoid the drugs and the doctors will pay off in time. I am choosing to believe that my HIV diagnosis is not a death sentence WITHOUT the drugs. If the www.houseofnumbers.com website has valid points that are crucial to the world as it pertains to rethinking AIDS, I pray that the world will know soon! Once again thank you guys for all your time and support. I have not given into big pharma just yet and I pray that I will never have to! Have a great day guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Randall, Sounds like you're doing the right thing. If you still worried, you might want to see a hypnotherapist, like Ellner, President of HEAL, who deprograms people from the bone pointing. Years ago he used to do a group deprogramming at the HEAL meetings. I've recommended him to several people and they all think it helped them remain doctor-free and worry-free. I don't agree with Noreen. I don't know what her disease was, but unless it was cancer, I seriously doubt that HIV medications helped her at all. I believe she recovered in spite of the them. When I came out of my comatose state my brother believed AZT cured me. I believe time and prayers healed me. I don't think we'll ever be friends again. Call it religious differences. He's 7 years younger than I am, has had a heart attack, diabetes, his gall bladder removed, had a stomach bigger than mine at it's worst (I'd compare it to a late stage pregnancy.), is always getting sick, running to doctors and taking pills. It really hurts me to see my 4 year-old nephew following in his footsteps. I took my last pills on October 10th and am feeling much, much better, but it's far from over. I tire easily. The grotesque physical deformity has lessened, but is still gross. The flatulence hasn't gone away. It prevents me from going to the gym and even the movies at times. The muscle wasting is still evident. I find it hard to stand up without using my hands, difficult getting out of cars, etc. I still get occasional paralyzing abdominal pains that remind me that it's not over yet. I no longer am obsessed with horrible thoughts of killing the witch doctor who did this to me, but the rage is still there. I'm experiencing all sorts of skin problems, outbreaks, dryness, itching, burning. These are probably normal detoxification symptoms. I don't do any blood work, but intend to do some soon to see if my liver and cholesterol levels are returning to normal, but no t-cell or VL nonsense. I also get occasional weak and dizzy spells, vision problems and still have some balance/equilibrium issues. I can't look up at the moon at night without holding on to something for balance. I think I am over the episodes of incontinence, but it is still scary to leave the house before noon unless I've had a couple of bowel movements. I don't know if I'll be able to fly again with the new restrictions on using the bathrooms on planes. I'm sure I'll think of more once I send this, but you get the gist of it. While hospitalized I was (mis)diagnosed with Mad Cow disease. And I sometimes wonder if the knowledge of this fraud and the inability to do anything about it isn't eating holes in my brain. Ed Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years.. During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Randall, Sounds like you're doing the right thing. If you still worried, you might want to see a hypnotherapist, like Ellner, President of HEAL, who deprograms people from the bone pointing. Years ago he used to do a group deprogramming at the HEAL meetings. I've recommended him to several people and they all think it helped them remain doctor-free and worry-free. I don't agree with Noreen. I don't know what her disease was, but unless it was cancer, I seriously doubt that HIV medications helped her at all. I believe she recovered in spite of the them. When I came out of my comatose state my brother believed AZT cured me. I believe time and prayers healed me. I don't think we'll ever be friends again. Call it religious differences. He's 7 years younger than I am, has had a heart attack, diabetes, his gall bladder removed, had a stomach bigger than mine at it's worst (I'd compare it to a late stage pregnancy.), is always getting sick, running to doctors and taking pills. It really hurts me to see my 4 year-old nephew following in his footsteps. I took my last pills on October 10th and am feeling much, much better, but it's far from over. I tire easily. The grotesque physical deformity has lessened, but is still gross. The flatulence hasn't gone away. It prevents me from going to the gym and even the movies at times. The muscle wasting is still evident. I find it hard to stand up without using my hands, difficult getting out of cars, etc. I still get occasional paralyzing abdominal pains that remind me that it's not over yet. I no longer am obsessed with horrible thoughts of killing the witch doctor who did this to me, but the rage is still there. I'm experiencing all sorts of skin problems, outbreaks, dryness, itching, burning. These are probably normal detoxification symptoms. I don't do any blood work, but intend to do some soon to see if my liver and cholesterol levels are returning to normal, but no t-cell or VL nonsense. I also get occasional weak and dizzy spells, vision problems and still have some balance/equilibrium issues. I can't look up at the moon at night without holding on to something for balance. I think I am over the episodes of incontinence, but it is still scary to leave the house before noon unless I've had a couple of bowel movements. I don't know if I'll be able to fly again with the new restrictions on using the bathrooms on planes. I'm sure I'll think of more once I send this, but you get the gist of it. While hospitalized I was (mis)diagnosed with Mad Cow disease. And I sometimes wonder if the knowledge of this fraud and the inability to do anything about it isn't eating holes in my brain. Ed Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years.. During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I am currently on the Hydrogen Peroxide therapy. It has worked wonders for me. Here is a helpful link. http://drinkh2o2.com/ there's much information on this all over the internet. There's also a book called " One minute cure " it's very pricey but I can scan it for you or send it to you as a e-book form. Just send me a private message if you're interested in obtaining a copy. From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I am currently on the Hydrogen Peroxide therapy. It has worked wonders for me. Here is a helpful link. http://drinkh2o2.com/ there's much information on this all over the internet. There's also a book called " One minute cure " it's very pricey but I can scan it for you or send it to you as a e-book form. Just send me a private message if you're interested in obtaining a copy. From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 what about silver guys? here's a web page you guys www.dr-johnson.com orwww.vive@... or dr.johnson@...   peace and blessing just trying to help there number to vive is 1-800-224-0242 there stationed in canada i've that real silver has a very powerful affect on hiv/aids very promising information. write me back and let me know what you guys think!!! ________________________________ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 12:34:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds  Wow thanks Don for that amazing response. It makes so much sense and it's how I feel inside. I just hope and pray that my (current) decision to avoid the drugs and the doctors will pay off in time. I am choosing to believe that my HIV diagnosis is not a death sentence WITHOUT the drugs. If the www.houseofnumbers. com website has valid points that are crucial to the world as it pertains to rethinking AIDS, I pray that the world will know soon! Once again thank you guys for all your time and support. I have not given into big pharma just yet and I pray that I will never have to! Have a great day guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 what about silver guys? here's a web page you guys www.dr-johnson.com orwww.vive@... or dr.johnson@...   peace and blessing just trying to help there number to vive is 1-800-224-0242 there stationed in canada i've that real silver has a very powerful affect on hiv/aids very promising information. write me back and let me know what you guys think!!! ________________________________ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 12:34:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds  Wow thanks Don for that amazing response. It makes so much sense and it's how I feel inside. I just hope and pray that my (current) decision to avoid the drugs and the doctors will pay off in time. I am choosing to believe that my HIV diagnosis is not a death sentence WITHOUT the drugs. If the www.houseofnumbers. com website has valid points that are crucial to the world as it pertains to rethinking AIDS, I pray that the world will know soon! Once again thank you guys for all your time and support. I have not given into big pharma just yet and I pray that I will never have to! Have a great day guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 oooops i'm sorry you guys the web site is www.invive@... ________________________________ From: william smith <williamsmith7850@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 2:49:22 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds  what about silver guys? here's a web page you guys www.dr-johnson. com orwww.vivevive (DOT) com or dr.johnsonix (DOT) netcom.com   peace and blessing just trying to help there number to vive is 1-800-224-0242 there stationed in canada i've that real silver has a very powerful affect on hiv/aids very promising information. write me back and let me know what you guys think!!! ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 12:34:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds  Wow thanks Don for that amazing response. It makes so much sense and it's how I feel inside. I just hope and pray that my (current) decision to avoid the drugs and the doctors will pay off in time. I am choosing to believe that my HIV diagnosis is not a death sentence WITHOUT the drugs. If the www.houseofnumbers. com website has valid points that are crucial to the world as it pertains to rethinking AIDS, I pray that the world will know soon! Once again thank you guys for all your time and support. I have not given into big pharma just yet and I pray that I will never have to! Have a great day guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 oooops i'm sorry you guys the web site is www.invive@... ________________________________ From: william smith <williamsmith7850@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 2:49:22 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds  what about silver guys? here's a web page you guys www.dr-johnson. com orwww.vivevive (DOT) com or dr.johnsonix (DOT) netcom.com   peace and blessing just trying to help there number to vive is 1-800-224-0242 there stationed in canada i've that real silver has a very powerful affect on hiv/aids very promising information. write me back and let me know what you guys think!!! ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 12:34:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds  Wow thanks Don for that amazing response. It makes so much sense and it's how I feel inside. I just hope and pray that my (current) decision to avoid the drugs and the doctors will pay off in time. I am choosing to believe that my HIV diagnosis is not a death sentence WITHOUT the drugs. If the www.houseofnumbers. com website has valid points that are crucial to the world as it pertains to rethinking AIDS, I pray that the world will know soon! Once again thank you guys for all your time and support. I have not given into big pharma just yet and I pray that I will never have to! Have a great day guys! Randall From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:45 PM Randall, We can certainly understand your situiation. You feel like you are between a rock and a hard place. Here is my take on the HAART, as being on both sides of the fence. Many have heard of my story, being a leading dissident or I like the term rethinker better. When I was extremely sick and dying with AIDS, not HIV, the drugs did help. Remember, true AIDS persons are not healthy, excluding those whose are labeled with AIDS due to low CD4's. My own experience with AIDS was due to a lifetime of negative health issues. When extremely sick, I took the medicines, ate healthy, took over 50 supplements a day, and had a good attitude. So, within a few months I was as good as new. This is when the problems came in. I wanted to stop the meds but the doctors insisted otherwise, so the conflict began. The more that I read, the more that I realized that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 in this particular case. To me, the rethinking side of AIDS made more sense, so I stopped the meds for 6 weeks, but with tremendous pressure from a mate and doctors, I restarted them. However, I continued to read and learn about HIV and AIDS. I would talk to anyone who would listen. Finally, about a year and a half later, I stopped them for almost three years... During this time, my fatigue slowly came back, my CD4's dipped and my viral load increased to over 3 million. Nevertheless, I never placed much stock in either of these numbers because after extensive research, I realized that neither were related to health. It was other conditions that caused the problems and the HAART was powerful enough to keep them at bay. To me, even with associated risks, I use the HAART as one of the tools in my arsenal to attack the bad guys. Last fall, I became extremely tired again after being anemic for almost a year and fighting lymphedema for months, I took the HAART, as I could barely get off the couch and could not function in life. Do I believe that HIV causes AIDS, absolutely not! I don't even consider this entity anymore, as I realize that it is just a matter of time until the truth about HIV and how it entered into the picture come out, thanks to the movement and to The House of Numbers. In the meantime, I have to deal with the reality of living, whatever it takes to stay alive. Even as a rethinker, I never stated that in some cases the HAART wasn't useful. It is the blantant use of throwing everyone on them who are HIV positive, that I have issues with. In some cases, the HAART has it place and everyone is in a different boat in regards to health. Only you and no one else, should make the determination of whether you need the meds or not. One must look at the whole picture. Some of the meds have worse side effects than others but if one needs them to function and/or stay alive until the real culprit is found, then one should take them. I have other views about what causes my health issues and am in the process of being tested for them. I find that it is easily for doctors to prescribe medicines in general, without ever getting to the heart of whatever the patient's true problem is in life. As Shakespeare stated, to thine own self be true. Become your own doctor and do your homework. Don't give up until you find your answers. Be firm, ask the tough questions. You still might not get correct answers, but at least you don't except everything that you hear. In the end, that small inner voice inside you will guide you into what is right for you. No, I do not plan to remain on the HAART for the rest of my life, but it is useful until I do find the answers that I am searching for. We wish you well and continue on in your own search for what you believe to be the truth. Talk to and listen to others, who have been there, as they are a more reliable source of information. One final note, try to stay positive and do not get bogged down in fear as this is extremely detrimental to your well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 hi randall my question to you is have you ever tried silver ? well there's a company in canada that sells a product called invive they sell it at about $100.00 per 4 ozs. i've  read that it works very well against hiv/aids very well if you know what i mean check out there web site www.invive@... i'm getting me some of it this week check out the web site and let me know what you think !!! oh! it's about 5'000 per bottle strenght is what you want very powerful stuff . peace out happy new years guys ________________________________ From: " aidsisover@... " <aidsisover@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 1:43:42 AM Subject: Re: Pressure To Take HIV Meds  Randall, January 7 will mark 22 years since I was given a medical death sentence. I stayed away from the medical system religiously and had no problems, no infections, no AIDS-defining illnesses, not even a cold until June of 2008. I used to joke that I'd have to be brought in on a stretcher before I'd see another M.D. (Merchants of Death.) In June of 2008, while walking alone on a quiet street (no traffic, no people) I suddenly felt a whirring in the back of my brain like I was being shot with some sort of electronic device. I got unbelievably dizzy and passed out on the street. I regained consciousness in an ER where thousands of dollars worth of diagnostic tests were performed and found nothing. I took a cab back to where I had left my car and drove home. A couple of days later, as is common with brain injuries (Remember Natasha .) , I went into a semi-comatose state and had an almost complete loss of memory for six weeks. While hospitalized and subjected to all sorts of unnecessary, invasive, dangerous and harmful testing, including not one, not two, but THREE spinal taps. My stupid brother thought it necessary to tell the doctor that I was gay. That led to an HIV test and being FORCED (not pressured -- forced) to take AZT, other horrible drugs that went against my basic beliefs, and then left on addictive Atripla. It took me over a year to get off the meds, but I'm still not over the damage they did and don't know if I'll ever fully recover. They say these drugs can make some people suicidal. Well for more than a year, not a day went by where my mind wasn't filled with thoughts of murdering the doctor who did this to me. " If you don't take your medications, YOU'RE GONNA DIE! " she yelled at me, like the witch in the Wizard of Oz. Well, if I can't get justice for what was done to me, I'm buying a gun. Give your friend a chance to educate herself. Have her watch all the documentaries on Positivelyfalse. com, listen to the podcasts on Howpositiveareyou. com and spend a few days reviewing the information at rethinkingaids. com. If that isn't enough to get her apologize to you, drop her. Stupid friends can be hazardous to your health. It took me over a year to find a doctor who would help me get off the drugs safely and I still haven't found a lawyer to help me get justice. Ed In a message dated 1/4/2010 12:29:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com writes: Hi guys, Happy New Year to all. I am going through a rough time as I have a dear friend who is worried about me and is pressuring me to look into taking the antiviral drugs " if need be.. " She already knows how I feel about the drugs as the thought of taking them for the rest of my life is a total nightmare. I'd rather just go ahead and croak! I've seen people who have taken the drugs for long periods of time and their faces are all sunk in or their skin is very thin (you can see their veins very easily), some have humps on their necks/backs, and so on. I'm sorry, I just know that HIV doesn't do all that to a person. Those are effects from long term use of those drugs! Right now I look healthy and my face is " full. " I just know that if I start those drugs, that in a few years, my face is going to sink in and my body fat is totally going to disappear and I will " look like I have AIDS. " I've seen this so many times. So yeah, my dear friend is tellin g me " please go look into getting meds and take care of yourself. " She means well but in her mind I'm going to die a horrible slow death if I don't take the drugs. Long before I tested positive, I always told myself that I would never take those drugs. I don't know why, but my gut feeling always told me that the drugs were dangerous long term. This is before I even knew of the dissident information. I just had a strong feeling that something was not right about the HIV meds. Altho my friend means well, it hurts in a way when she keeps saying it almost everytime we talk. I just wish I knew alot of people who have lived 10-20+ years without taking the drugs.. I've heard it a few times from internet videos and dissident sites but I don't know of a person in my life or around me that has had this experience. It would definitely be encouraging! A part of me believes that if you BELIEVE you're going to die because of HIV/AIDS without the drugs, then most likely you will and then another part of me is just confused and really don't know what to do! I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers. I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers. <WBR>com website and it presents a whole different approach to HIV/AIDS. I wish and pray with all my heart that what they say is true on that site. Since it was presented that HIV is a death sentence without the drugs years ago, it just really messes people up psychologically. Sometimes you feel trapped and don't see a way out but I'm honestly doing my best to stay away from the AIDS clinics/doctors. Popping pills the rest of my life that I know are not healthy long-term sounds like a I've been looking at the www.houseofnumbers. <WBR>com we Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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