Re: MA pays for IEP services?

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In a message dated 10/19/2001 2:31:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

judykeller@... writes:

> I'm just wondering if

> our district is behind the times or setting a trend for things to come.

> Judy

>

I have not heard of anything like that here. Check with your state

department of education and ask them how many other school divisions are

doing the same. There's a great legal firm in Boston that works on behalf of

children with disabilities. Do you mind if I send your email to them and ask

what they think of this?

Cheryl

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In a message dated 10/19/2001 2:31:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

judykeller@... writes:

> I'm just wondering if

> our district is behind the times or setting a trend for things to come.

> Judy

>

I have not heard of anything like that here. Check with your state

department of education and ask them how many other school divisions are

doing the same. There's a great legal firm in Boston that works on behalf of

children with disabilities. Do you mind if I send your email to them and ask

what they think of this?

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/2001 1:31:43 AM Central Daylight Time,

judykeller@... writes:

<<

Today I received a letter from the Special Ed Supervisor. It said

basically that the district would like the parents to sign it and send it

back so that they can access federal dollars to pay for Sp. Ed. related

services that the child needs according to the IEP. Doing this would allow

the district to increase services. It also says that I have the right to

revoke permission for them to bill MA at any time. This is the first time

I've heard about this. Is this happening else where? I'm just wondering if

our district is behind the times or setting a trend for things to come.

Judy

>>

Hi Judy,

this has been around a few years. We recieved the 'request' i think 2 yrs

ago. The district is supposedly supposed to request from the families

permission to either bill insurance or MA. You can refuse. I did. I realy

con't have the money to pay the deductible on my insurance for services that

are part of a FAPE. plus she's not on MA, and hasnt' been for about 5 yrs.

:-)

Joy

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In a message dated 10/19/2001 1:31:43 AM Central Daylight Time,

judykeller@... writes:

<<

Today I received a letter from the Special Ed Supervisor. It said

basically that the district would like the parents to sign it and send it

back so that they can access federal dollars to pay for Sp. Ed. related

services that the child needs according to the IEP. Doing this would allow

the district to increase services. It also says that I have the right to

revoke permission for them to bill MA at any time. This is the first time

I've heard about this. Is this happening else where? I'm just wondering if

our district is behind the times or setting a trend for things to come.

Judy

>>

Hi Judy,

this has been around a few years. We recieved the 'request' i think 2 yrs

ago. The district is supposedly supposed to request from the families

permission to either bill insurance or MA. You can refuse. I did. I realy

con't have the money to pay the deductible on my insurance for services that

are part of a FAPE. plus she's not on MA, and hasnt' been for about 5 yrs.

:-)

Joy

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From: <judykeller@...>

< >;

Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:30 AM

Subject: MA pays for IEP services?

Judy, I believe this is illegal. A similiar situation was occurring in

Braxton County, West Virginia 6-7 years ago and medicaid finally pulled the

plug. I'd attach the part of IDEA that states every child is entitled to a

FAPE. Maybe Kent is more familiar with the Braxton County issue than I am.

That was not where we lived.

Medicaid will pay for services in a residential treatment facility, but

should not reimburse the schools. Call your Medicaid provider and perhaps

write to your politicians.

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From: <judykeller@...>

< >;

Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:30 AM

Subject: MA pays for IEP services?

Judy, I believe this is illegal. A similiar situation was occurring in

Braxton County, West Virginia 6-7 years ago and medicaid finally pulled the

plug. I'd attach the part of IDEA that states every child is entitled to a

FAPE. Maybe Kent is more familiar with the Braxton County issue than I am.

That was not where we lived.

Medicaid will pay for services in a residential treatment facility, but

should not reimburse the schools. Call your Medicaid provider and perhaps

write to your politicians.

[Guest guest]

Maddie goes to an approved private school. They do indeed have her MA

number so that if they need to bill them for certain therapies not covered by

the SD, they will take that route.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Hi JUdy,

I have never received anything like that!

Kathy

MA pays for IEP services?

Hi,

Today I received a letter from the Special Ed Supervisor. It said

basically that the district would like the parents to sign it and send it

back so that they can access federal dollars to pay for Sp. Ed. related

services that the child needs according to the IEP. Doing this would allow

the district to increase services. It also says that I have the right to

revoke permission for them to bill MA at any time. This is the first time

I've heard about this. Is this happening else where? I'm just wondering if

our district is behind the times or setting a trend for things to come.

Judy

[Guest guest]

I have never been asked for 's SSN# or insurance info at any school.

Kathy

Re: MA pays for IEP services?

IKathy

MediCal will pay for 2 speech sessions per month(2 hours I believe) and the

schools bill them. That is why most of our kids get about 30 minutes a

week! That is one of the reasons they ask for insurance, MediCal, and

Social Security # " s on our enrollment papers. And you thought it was in

case got hurt at school ; )

& Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (7

ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (4 ds). All adopted.

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On the emergency card - I have been asked for his Dr. name, address, and phone

number.

At this school there is no student ID (too few children maybe) Hmmm. . . Do you

think

because it is a private school the school district pays????

Even for - I have never been asked for his SSN but I have been asked for the

doc

info and the ID # on the insurance card.(his dads SSN#)

Re: MA pays for IEP services?

Kathy,

Our school uses the SS# as student ID#. And the insurance/MediCal #'s goes

on the emergency info card.

Guess every district is different.

& Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (7

ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (4 ds). All adopted.

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IKathy

MediCal will pay for 2 speech sessions per month(2 hours I believe) and the

schools bill them. That is why most of our kids get about 30 minutes a

week! That is one of the reasons they ask for insurance, MediCal, and

Social Security # " s on our enrollment papers. And you thought it was in

case got hurt at school ; )

& Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (7

ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (4 ds). All adopted.

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All the information that you fill out about the

child, whether it's on the doctor's, school,

activities that their in, etc. it all asks the same

stuff. It's for emergency incase the kid was in an

accident or something happenened to them- they know a

little about the child.

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their lives with a child with special needs.

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Kathy,

Our school uses the SS# as student ID#. And the insurance/MediCal #'s goes

on the emergency info card.

Guess every district is different.

& Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (7

ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (4 ds). All adopted.

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

Private school may be the answer.

& Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (7

ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (4 ds). All adopted.

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>From: " UrthMan " <outerspace@...>

>< >

>Subject: Re: MA pays for IEP services?

>Date: Fri, Oct 19, 2001, 7:54 AM

>

>

>On the emergency card - I have been asked for his Dr. name, address, and

>phone number.

>At this school there is no student ID (too few children maybe) Hmmm. . .

>Do you think

>because it is a private school the school district pays????

>Even for - I have never been asked for his SSN but I have been asked

>for the doc

>info and the ID # on the insurance card.(his dads SSN#)

> Re: MA pays for IEP services?

>

>

> Kathy,

> Our school uses the SS# as student ID#. And the insurance/MediCal #'s goes

> on the emergency info card.

> Guess every district is different.

>

> & Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (7

> ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (4 ds). All adopted.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I signed one of those about a year ago......PA.

Di, mom to Jake(18,nda) and 4 (DS)

Pennsylvania

[Guest guest]

I signed one of those about a year ago......PA.

Di, mom to Jake(18,nda) and 4 (DS)

Pennsylvania

[Guest guest]

I didn't see a reason not to sign it...I figured the Ins Co never has a problem

refusing and if it was illegal, they would just refuse it...

Di, mom to Jake(18,nda) and 4 (DS)

Pennsylvania

MA pays for IEP services?

Judy, I believe this is illegal. A similiar situation was occurring in

Braxton County, West Virginia 6-7 years ago and medicaid finally pulled the

plug. I'd attach the part of IDEA that states every child is entitled to a

FAPE. Maybe Kent is more familiar with the Braxton County issue than I am.

That was not where we lived.

Medicaid will pay for services in a residential treatment facility, but

should not reimburse the schools. Call your Medicaid provider and perhaps

write to your politicians.

[Guest guest]

I didn't see a reason not to sign it...I figured the Ins Co never has a problem

refusing and if it was illegal, they would just refuse it...

Di, mom to Jake(18,nda) and 4 (DS)

Pennsylvania

MA pays for IEP services?

Judy, I believe this is illegal. A similiar situation was occurring in

Braxton County, West Virginia 6-7 years ago and medicaid finally pulled the

plug. I'd attach the part of IDEA that states every child is entitled to a

FAPE. Maybe Kent is more familiar with the Braxton County issue than I am.

That was not where we lived.

Medicaid will pay for services in a residential treatment facility, but

should not reimburse the schools. Call your Medicaid provider and perhaps

write to your politicians.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/01 5:54:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

cindysue@... writes:

>

> Judy, I believe this is illegal. A similiar situation was occurring in

> Braxton County, West Virginia 6-7 years ago and medicaid finally pulled the

> plug. I'd attach the part of IDEA that states every child is entitled to a

> FAPE. Maybe Kent is more familiar with the Braxton County issue than I am.

> That was not where we lived.

>

> Medicaid will pay for services in a residential treatment facility, but

> should not reimburse the schools. Call your Medicaid provider and perhaps

> write to your politicians.

>

>

>

>

The state of Wisconsin MA program has chosen to allow school to become

providers under our state MA program. That means they can charge MA for

therapies. A study by someone (it will come to me after some sleep) has shown

that kids in Wisconsin receiving therapies through schools and billed to MA

are getting more refusals for private therapy.

Personally I'd hold off signing it and see if they make a fuss. I wonder if

they can withhold therapy if you refuse to have MA pay for it?

Karyn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/01 5:54:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

cindysue@... writes:

>

> Judy, I believe this is illegal. A similiar situation was occurring in

> Braxton County, West Virginia 6-7 years ago and medicaid finally pulled the

> plug. I'd attach the part of IDEA that states every child is entitled to a

> FAPE. Maybe Kent is more familiar with the Braxton County issue than I am.

> That was not where we lived.

>

> Medicaid will pay for services in a residential treatment facility, but

> should not reimburse the schools. Call your Medicaid provider and perhaps

> write to your politicians.

>

>

>

>

The state of Wisconsin MA program has chosen to allow school to become

providers under our state MA program. That means they can charge MA for

therapies. A study by someone (it will come to me after some sleep) has shown

that kids in Wisconsin receiving therapies through schools and billed to MA

are getting more refusals for private therapy.

Personally I'd hold off signing it and see if they make a fuss. I wonder if

they can withhold therapy if you refuse to have MA pay for it?

Karyn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/01 5:54:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

cindysue@... writes:

>

> Judy, I believe this is illegal. A similiar situation was occurring in

> Braxton County, West Virginia 6-7 years ago and medicaid finally pulled the

> plug. I'd attach the part of IDEA that states every child is entitled to a

> FAPE. Maybe Kent is more familiar with the Braxton County issue than I am.

> That was not where we lived.

>

> Medicaid will pay for services in a residential treatment facility, but

> should not reimburse the schools. Call your Medicaid provider and perhaps

> write to your politicians.

>

>

>

>

The state of Wisconsin MA program has chosen to allow school to become

providers under our state MA program. That means they can charge MA for

therapies. A study by someone (it will come to me after some sleep) has shown

that kids in Wisconsin receiving therapies through schools and billed to MA

are getting more refusals for private therapy.

Personally I'd hold off signing it and see if they make a fuss. I wonder if

they can withhold therapy if you refuse to have MA pay for it?

Karyn

[Guest guest]

> >

>

> The state of Wisconsin MA program has chosen to allow school to become

> providers under our state MA program. That means they can charge MA for

> therapies. A study by someone (it will come to me after some sleep) has

shown

> that kids in Wisconsin receiving therapies through schools and billed to

MA

> are getting more refusals for private therapy.

If you have private insurance, that has to be billed before Medicaid can be

billed. You may have a lifetime cap on services, so be careful. Also, they

can charge for sign off by a medical professional who won't even see your

child. Be careful, very careful.

[Guest guest]

> >

>

> The state of Wisconsin MA program has chosen to allow school to become

> providers under our state MA program. That means they can charge MA for

> therapies. A study by someone (it will come to me after some sleep) has

shown

> that kids in Wisconsin receiving therapies through schools and billed to

MA

> are getting more refusals for private therapy.

If you have private insurance, that has to be billed before Medicaid can be

billed. You may have a lifetime cap on services, so be careful. Also, they

can charge for sign off by a medical professional who won't even see your

child. Be careful, very careful.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/01 10:41:22 PM Central Daylight Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> If you have private insurance, that has to be billed before Medicaid can be

> billed. You may have a lifetime cap on services, so be careful. Also, they

> can charge for sign off by a medical professional who won't even see your

> child. Be careful, very careful.

>

>

>

>

In Wisconsin the Beckett waiver program is such that any child with a

significant disability (meets criteria for SSI) is offered MA. Even when MA

wasn't being billed they ask for a prescription from the child's dr. before

they will provide services.

For school services private insurance generally refuses to pay and MA then

steps up.

I don't like it and if they attempted it with I would question it

thoroughly.

Karyn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/01 10:41:22 PM Central Daylight Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> If you have private insurance, that has to be billed before Medicaid can be

> billed. You may have a lifetime cap on services, so be careful. Also, they

> can charge for sign off by a medical professional who won't even see your

> child. Be careful, very careful.

>

>

>

>

In Wisconsin the Beckett waiver program is such that any child with a

significant disability (meets criteria for SSI) is offered MA. Even when MA

wasn't being billed they ask for a prescription from the child's dr. before

they will provide services.

For school services private insurance generally refuses to pay and MA then

steps up.

I don't like it and if they attempted it with I would question it

thoroughly.

Karyn