Re: School Let Him Get Away!!!! Long Vent

[Guest guest]

Are you serious? This principal's reaction is unconscionable and is

tanamount to " blaming the victim " which is equally as wrong. I admire your

restraint. I would think the School Board would want to know about this

principal's behavior, and the lapse in the aide's responsibility. I would

also think that if you could supply the subscribers of this listserve with

the email address of the School Board's President, he or she would hear from

many of us regarding this incident. We could also respond directly to the

prinicpal if you could supply her email address. Another thought is

contacting Child Protection Services in your county, but I suspect they

would only defer to the School Board's jurisdiction. We hope you will keep

us posted as this unfolds. We're so grateful that your son is safe, and for

the unexpected kindness and Grace of strangers.

School Let Him Get Away!!!! Long Vent

>I don't usually post very often, but I have to vent tonight. I am about

>ready to kill a principal. Here's my vent if you feel like listening:

>

>A little history first: My son, Evan, is 5 and goes to public kindergarten

>in a special needs class all day. Although he is 5, he has the mental

>capacity of a 2-3 year old. Today, there were 3 adults (1 teacher, 2

aides),

>in the classroom with 4 DD kids.

>

>I got a call from the principal of the school at 11:00 today that Evan had

>apparently gotten out of the classroom and was found by some man (they

didn't

>bother to get his name) in the DOWNTOWN AREA that brought him back to the

>school and asked if he possibly belonged there. Then she informed me that

>Evan was fine and back in class and the everything was alright, but she

just

>wanted to give me a call to let me know what had happened.

>

>I was a nervous wreck by now, and I asked if an incident report had been

>made. The principal informed me that everything was fine and that wasn't

>necessary. Sooooooo, I went straight to the police department and asked a

>policeman to accompany me so that a report could be made. Afterall, if

Evan

>had escaped from my house, they would have had the Dept. of Human Resources

>at my door that next hour and the policeman told me that! So the policeman

>went and asked a bunch of questions about how, when and where and who

brought

>him back (which no one knew the answer to!). Then he proceeded to leave

>saying for me to call him if I needed him anymore.

>

>WELL...then the principal tells me: " I only called you, Terry, because I

>wanted you to know what happened. But if you are gonna over react when

>something like this happens (and she pointed to the policeman as he was

going

>out the door), then I can't call you anymore. OK.....you can imagine what

I

>said about over reacting.....which wasn't nice at all. I will be nice and

>not type what I said.

>

>Then the principal said: " I went to Evan and told him that he was not to go

>outside anymore without an adult with him. " So I told her she could have

>just as well told the door or the wall what she told him. It was his aide

>that went out the door and left it unlatched....and he followed

her....which

>is what he is supposed to do all day on any other day......he did what he

>thought he was supposed to do. She went out...so he did too. Only she

>turned a corner and he went straight...straight out the door!

>

>Oh, I am so mad that I could kill someone. I don't know what I am gonna do

>next. I want to let the school board know about this,....but if I write

>anything right now, I know it won't make sense because I am too upset and

>pregnant hormones are flowing. Anyone have any suggestions to help me get

my

>point across when I do write a letter? I am not as mad about him getting

>away as I am that they didn't find out who brought him back, and the

attitude

>of the principal saying that I over reacted. All I know is it better not

>happen a second time.

>

>Thanks for listening to me if you got this far. This letter to you all

>probably doesn't make a bit of sense but I just needed to VENT. Thanks for

>being here for me.

>

>Terry

>Mom to Evan, 5, DS (the escape artist),

>and ?? due in November

>

>

>Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Are you serious? This principal's reaction is unconscionable and is

tanamount to " blaming the victim " which is equally as wrong. I admire your

restraint. I would think the School Board would want to know about this

principal's behavior, and the lapse in the aide's responsibility. I would

also think that if you could supply the subscribers of this listserve with

the email address of the School Board's President, he or she would hear from

many of us regarding this incident. We could also respond directly to the

prinicpal if you could supply her email address. Another thought is

contacting Child Protection Services in your county, but I suspect they

would only defer to the School Board's jurisdiction. We hope you will keep

us posted as this unfolds. We're so grateful that your son is safe, and for

the unexpected kindness and Grace of strangers.

School Let Him Get Away!!!! Long Vent

>I don't usually post very often, but I have to vent tonight. I am about

>ready to kill a principal. Here's my vent if you feel like listening:

>

>A little history first: My son, Evan, is 5 and goes to public kindergarten

>in a special needs class all day. Although he is 5, he has the mental

>capacity of a 2-3 year old. Today, there were 3 adults (1 teacher, 2

aides),

>in the classroom with 4 DD kids.

>

>I got a call from the principal of the school at 11:00 today that Evan had

>apparently gotten out of the classroom and was found by some man (they

didn't

>bother to get his name) in the DOWNTOWN AREA that brought him back to the

>school and asked if he possibly belonged there. Then she informed me that

>Evan was fine and back in class and the everything was alright, but she

just

>wanted to give me a call to let me know what had happened.

>

>I was a nervous wreck by now, and I asked if an incident report had been

>made. The principal informed me that everything was fine and that wasn't

>necessary. Sooooooo, I went straight to the police department and asked a

>policeman to accompany me so that a report could be made. Afterall, if

Evan

>had escaped from my house, they would have had the Dept. of Human Resources

>at my door that next hour and the policeman told me that! So the policeman

>went and asked a bunch of questions about how, when and where and who

brought

>him back (which no one knew the answer to!). Then he proceeded to leave

>saying for me to call him if I needed him anymore.

>

>WELL...then the principal tells me: " I only called you, Terry, because I

>wanted you to know what happened. But if you are gonna over react when

>something like this happens (and she pointed to the policeman as he was

going

>out the door), then I can't call you anymore. OK.....you can imagine what

I

>said about over reacting.....which wasn't nice at all. I will be nice and

>not type what I said.

>

>Then the principal said: " I went to Evan and told him that he was not to go

>outside anymore without an adult with him. " So I told her she could have

>just as well told the door or the wall what she told him. It was his aide

>that went out the door and left it unlatched....and he followed

her....which

>is what he is supposed to do all day on any other day......he did what he

>thought he was supposed to do. She went out...so he did too. Only she

>turned a corner and he went straight...straight out the door!

>

>Oh, I am so mad that I could kill someone. I don't know what I am gonna do

>next. I want to let the school board know about this,....but if I write

>anything right now, I know it won't make sense because I am too upset and

>pregnant hormones are flowing. Anyone have any suggestions to help me get

my

>point across when I do write a letter? I am not as mad about him getting

>away as I am that they didn't find out who brought him back, and the

attitude

>of the principal saying that I over reacted. All I know is it better not

>happen a second time.

>

>Thanks for listening to me if you got this far. This letter to you all

>probably doesn't make a bit of sense but I just needed to VENT. Thanks for

>being here for me.

>

>Terry

>Mom to Evan, 5, DS (the escape artist),

>and ?? due in November

>

>

>Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

How long was he gone before they noticed?

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

How long was he gone before they noticed?

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

Hi Linlin:

Thanks for your reply. The aide said: " we think he was only missing for

about 5 minutes. " And then the principal said " Evan was in the middle of the

street when the man got to him. " It was as if she wanted me to get on to him

for being in the street. He wouldn't have been in the street if they had

been doing their job! Besides, Evan doesn't understand anyways. He is

basically non-verbal and only understands very simple commands. And he

surely doesn't know that he did anything wrong, especially after an hour

after it happened. Supposedly they are gonna get some more safety latches

for the classroom. I don't know what good this is gonna do if they don't

actually " use the latches " when they go out the door. They didn't use the

one they already have on the door yesterday...that's why he got out. I guess

you can tell my blood is still boiling this morning. Thanks again for

listening.

Terry

Mom to Evan, 5, DS and ?? due in November

_______________________

lin17lin writes:

<<

i could'nt believe your story! what a bunch of irresponsible BLEEP BLEEPS!!!

my heart was pounding just reading. okay, first of all why did they not

notice when he was gone? why did they call you after the stranger brought him

back? and why did no one get his name? what the hell were the aids, teachers,

and principal thinking? and as for overreacting!!! what if that was thier

child, i bet the whole d--m force would have been at the school! how could

they have taken this incident so lightly? you had EVERY!!!!!! right to react

the way you did. you were the smart one to go to the police.i am truly sorry

that you had to go through that experience. i don't know what i would have

done if it was me. they probably would have had to call the police----> for

me! to pull me off of someone in that school! i probably would have caught a

charge! i hope your son is fine. you go ahead and vent. vent all you want.

vent to the " staff " of that school if you want. you'er entitled!!! what are

they going to now?

linlin mother to micah 4 ds, and michael 8 >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Linlin:

Thanks for your reply. The aide said: " we think he was only missing for

about 5 minutes. " And then the principal said " Evan was in the middle of the

street when the man got to him. " It was as if she wanted me to get on to him

for being in the street. He wouldn't have been in the street if they had

been doing their job! Besides, Evan doesn't understand anyways. He is

basically non-verbal and only understands very simple commands. And he

surely doesn't know that he did anything wrong, especially after an hour

after it happened. Supposedly they are gonna get some more safety latches

for the classroom. I don't know what good this is gonna do if they don't

actually " use the latches " when they go out the door. They didn't use the

one they already have on the door yesterday...that's why he got out. I guess

you can tell my blood is still boiling this morning. Thanks again for

listening.

Terry

Mom to Evan, 5, DS and ?? due in November

_______________________

lin17lin writes:

<<

i could'nt believe your story! what a bunch of irresponsible BLEEP BLEEPS!!!

my heart was pounding just reading. okay, first of all why did they not

notice when he was gone? why did they call you after the stranger brought him

back? and why did no one get his name? what the hell were the aids, teachers,

and principal thinking? and as for overreacting!!! what if that was thier

child, i bet the whole d--m force would have been at the school! how could

they have taken this incident so lightly? you had EVERY!!!!!! right to react

the way you did. you were the smart one to go to the police.i am truly sorry

that you had to go through that experience. i don't know what i would have

done if it was me. they probably would have had to call the police----> for

me! to pull me off of someone in that school! i probably would have caught a

charge! i hope your son is fine. you go ahead and vent. vent all you want.

vent to the " staff " of that school if you want. you'er entitled!!! what are

they going to now?

linlin mother to micah 4 ds, and michael 8 >>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/22/01 11:56:44 PM Central Daylight Time,

DownsIsUp@... writes:

> WELL...then the principal tells me: " I only called you, Terry, because I

> wanted you to know what happened. But if you are gonna over react when

> something like this happens (and she pointed to the policeman as he was

> going

> out the door), then I can't call you anymore. OK.....you can imagine what

I

>

> said about over reacting.....which wasn't nice at all. I will be nice and

> not type what I said.

HI Terry

When are you due???

Well, we had an incident last year, not like this but a violation of Sara's

and my rights. My first suggestion to you would be call an IEP .....ASAP, get

it in the IEP that you are to be called for any incident concerning your sons

safety. Make sure it says they are to call you in so many minutes or they

could do it whenever they want (like the next day ugg) Any repercussions need

to be spelled out in the IEP too, like using positive language to teach your

son about safety issues........you don't want him reprimanded or put in time

out for this

As far as the letter........I'm awful at this Heehee that's why I have a

buddy here write my letters or my English teacher sister lolol

Kathy mom to Sara 9..........any violations of the IEP can warrant a State

Complaint

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/22/01 11:56:44 PM Central Daylight Time,

DownsIsUp@... writes:

> WELL...then the principal tells me: " I only called you, Terry, because I

> wanted you to know what happened. But if you are gonna over react when

> something like this happens (and she pointed to the policeman as he was

> going

> out the door), then I can't call you anymore. OK.....you can imagine what

I

>

> said about over reacting.....which wasn't nice at all. I will be nice and

> not type what I said.

HI Terry

When are you due???

Well, we had an incident last year, not like this but a violation of Sara's

and my rights. My first suggestion to you would be call an IEP .....ASAP, get

it in the IEP that you are to be called for any incident concerning your sons

safety. Make sure it says they are to call you in so many minutes or they

could do it whenever they want (like the next day ugg) Any repercussions need

to be spelled out in the IEP too, like using positive language to teach your

son about safety issues........you don't want him reprimanded or put in time

out for this

As far as the letter........I'm awful at this Heehee that's why I have a

buddy here write my letters or my English teacher sister lolol

Kathy mom to Sara 9..........any violations of the IEP can warrant a State

Complaint

[Guest guest]

Terry -

Does Evan have a 1:1 aide? If not, you probably now have a darn good reason

to get him one! If so, where was she when this happened? My son (who is10)

is NEVER left alone, without adult supervision. (He is also a flight

risk.....although, thanks to good vigilance on the part of the school, he has

never gotten outside the building since the morning he escaped in first

grade. I was lucky that the school took it very seriously.)

I think posted something a while ago - a protocol that the school uses

if they find that her son is not in the classroom - a plan for school

lockdown, search, and then search outside. You may want to get that from the

archives and propose it for your school.

My suggestion would be to write a letter to the principal, copying the school

superintendant, CSE chair and anyone else you think needs to know. I would

first explain what happened, including that the principal said you had

" overreacted " . I would very clearly outline what your expectations are;

i.e., 1:1 adult supervision for your child at ALL times, a plan in place for

the event that he does escape, and an apology from the principal. It is NOT

OKAY for your child to be able to leave the building, walk down the middle of

the street, and be returned by a stranger. Maybe if you have an advocacy

group in your area you could talk to them about what your legal options are.

Unfortunately, I have to tell you that Jimmy is STILL a flight risk. I have

stated this in writing to his new team (he is entering a new school this

year) - they all think I'm really outspoken and pushy.....a real " mother from

hell " ......but I told them IN WRITING that he is a flight risk and that we

expect the school to provide 1:1 adult supervision at ALL times.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

Terry -

Does Evan have a 1:1 aide? If not, you probably now have a darn good reason

to get him one! If so, where was she when this happened? My son (who is10)

is NEVER left alone, without adult supervision. (He is also a flight

risk.....although, thanks to good vigilance on the part of the school, he has

never gotten outside the building since the morning he escaped in first

grade. I was lucky that the school took it very seriously.)

I think posted something a while ago - a protocol that the school uses

if they find that her son is not in the classroom - a plan for school

lockdown, search, and then search outside. You may want to get that from the

archives and propose it for your school.

My suggestion would be to write a letter to the principal, copying the school

superintendant, CSE chair and anyone else you think needs to know. I would

first explain what happened, including that the principal said you had

" overreacted " . I would very clearly outline what your expectations are;

i.e., 1:1 adult supervision for your child at ALL times, a plan in place for

the event that he does escape, and an apology from the principal. It is NOT

OKAY for your child to be able to leave the building, walk down the middle of

the street, and be returned by a stranger. Maybe if you have an advocacy

group in your area you could talk to them about what your legal options are.

Unfortunately, I have to tell you that Jimmy is STILL a flight risk. I have

stated this in writing to his new team (he is entering a new school this

year) - they all think I'm really outspoken and pushy.....a real " mother from

hell " ......but I told them IN WRITING that he is a flight risk and that we

expect the school to provide 1:1 adult supervision at ALL times.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

Well, the fact is that now they are NOT going to inform you if they lose him

again...and they probably will!

You need to call an IEP and make sure that there are safety measures in there

AND make sure that it is documented that you be contacted IMMEDIATELY.

You also need to question thier ability to moniter him safely, and suggest

that perhaps they might want to hire a 1:1 aide for him. (This will ONLY

benefit him in the end!)

I would also STRONGLY suggest that you go to the next school board meeting

and during the " remarks from the public " let them know what is going on so

THEY ARE AWARE! School boards often know NOTHING of what is happening at

their schools... only the good stuff that the principals want to tell them.

They need to hear the concerns of the parents. I am sure that they will send

someone over to check things out....AND that the prinicpal will treat you

with a bit more respect if you bring it to their attention.

[Guest guest]

Well, the fact is that now they are NOT going to inform you if they lose him

again...and they probably will!

You need to call an IEP and make sure that there are safety measures in there

AND make sure that it is documented that you be contacted IMMEDIATELY.

You also need to question thier ability to moniter him safely, and suggest

that perhaps they might want to hire a 1:1 aide for him. (This will ONLY

benefit him in the end!)

I would also STRONGLY suggest that you go to the next school board meeting

and during the " remarks from the public " let them know what is going on so

THEY ARE AWARE! School boards often know NOTHING of what is happening at

their schools... only the good stuff that the principals want to tell them.

They need to hear the concerns of the parents. I am sure that they will send

someone over to check things out....AND that the prinicpal will treat you

with a bit more respect if you bring it to their attention.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/23/2001 8:17:39 AM Central Daylight Time,

b4alltoday@... writes:

> Any repercussions need

> to be spelled out in the IEP too, like using positive language to teach

> your

> son about safety issues........you don't want him reprimanded or put in

> time

> out for this

>

> As far as the letter........I'm awful at this Heehee that's why I have a

> buddy here write my letters or my English teacher sister lolol

>

> Kathy mom to Sara 9..........any violations of the IEP can warrant a State

> Complaint

>

>

I agree that you need an IEP meeting stressing what is to be done, make it an

emergency one, I'd set the minutes after finding he is missing to just long

enough to notify the autorities that a child cannot be found, depending on

the size of the school and the response they have in place for their staff to

take when a missing child alert is given that shouldn't be that long. Ask

them to set in place a safetly policy about notifying staff and stuff and

also assigning no estential staff to check places like bathrooms and storage

rooms, this will help make sure that all areas are covered quickly, if the

principle refuses to set up saftey (didn't cindy say that her school had code

matthew or something) provisions for such a happening then go to the board.

Sometimes they do need to be reminded that they are responsible for the

childs saftey from the time he/she puts his foot onto the bus or school

property. :-) do they realize how far a child can get in 1 or 2 minutes?

Gee I lost this spring at JCPenny, she was completely out of sight when

I looked at the spot where she would have turned..never ever stop to look at

a dress when you have her along. lol .which was many 15 feet in front of

where i stopped. long enough to flip through a couple dreses then look up

for here, .she was infact proably wandering down the mall within a couple of

minutes, browsing so she wasn't moving fast (and I did have the entire staff

looking within just a few minutes, and believe me when there's a missing

child anyone in the store not helping a customer is looking for that child,

and the mall security within 5 min after that) Good thing I have my dads

genes when it comes to hair or mine would be white, and all from her. lol

I truely believe that keeps her guardian angel very busy, sounds like

Evan is giving his angel a workout to. LOL But that aside, perhaps if you

want to thank the stanger a letter to the editor of your local paper? This

idea to does have it's drawbacks.....(I'm thinking more of a privacy issue

since most papers wouldn't print it without your name and address, which i

don't think you'd want out there that badly)

Joy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/23/2001 8:17:39 AM Central Daylight Time,

b4alltoday@... writes:

> Any repercussions need

> to be spelled out in the IEP too, like using positive language to teach

> your

> son about safety issues........you don't want him reprimanded or put in

> time

> out for this

>

> As far as the letter........I'm awful at this Heehee that's why I have a

> buddy here write my letters or my English teacher sister lolol

>

> Kathy mom to Sara 9..........any violations of the IEP can warrant a State

> Complaint

>

>

I agree that you need an IEP meeting stressing what is to be done, make it an

emergency one, I'd set the minutes after finding he is missing to just long

enough to notify the autorities that a child cannot be found, depending on

the size of the school and the response they have in place for their staff to

take when a missing child alert is given that shouldn't be that long. Ask

them to set in place a safetly policy about notifying staff and stuff and

also assigning no estential staff to check places like bathrooms and storage

rooms, this will help make sure that all areas are covered quickly, if the

principle refuses to set up saftey (didn't cindy say that her school had code

matthew or something) provisions for such a happening then go to the board.

Sometimes they do need to be reminded that they are responsible for the

childs saftey from the time he/she puts his foot onto the bus or school

property. :-) do they realize how far a child can get in 1 or 2 minutes?

Gee I lost this spring at JCPenny, she was completely out of sight when

I looked at the spot where she would have turned..never ever stop to look at

a dress when you have her along. lol .which was many 15 feet in front of

where i stopped. long enough to flip through a couple dreses then look up

for here, .she was infact proably wandering down the mall within a couple of

minutes, browsing so she wasn't moving fast (and I did have the entire staff

looking within just a few minutes, and believe me when there's a missing

child anyone in the store not helping a customer is looking for that child,

and the mall security within 5 min after that) Good thing I have my dads

genes when it comes to hair or mine would be white, and all from her. lol

I truely believe that keeps her guardian angel very busy, sounds like

Evan is giving his angel a workout to. LOL But that aside, perhaps if you

want to thank the stanger a letter to the editor of your local paper? This

idea to does have it's drawbacks.....(I'm thinking more of a privacy issue

since most papers wouldn't print it without your name and address, which i

don't think you'd want out there that badly)

Joy

[Guest guest]

Terry

BOY OH BOY!!! Did your story sound familiar!! Last school year Lucas,(4 at

that time w/ds)was in Head Start and on the 3rd day he ran away. I never got

a call....2 or 3 days later someone came up to me on the street and asked

how Lucas was doing! I said what do you mean?? She told me that an elderly

man found him hanging by his foot at the top of a slide in a park!!!! He got

Lucas down but was unably to carry him far(he was old and bad legs)so he

flaged down someone walking a dog and asked her to go to the Head Start and

ask if they were missing anyone. THEY DID NOT EVEN KNOW HE WAS GONE!!!! How

do you miss a child (specially Lucas)!

Anyway.....I went right over when I found out and asked about an incident

report " no, it really wasn't an incident " WHAT!!! I was more mad that they

never contacted me than I was that he ran away(I already know he is a

runner)!! This went on several times during the year, not one call!

Sometimes the special ed. people from the elementary would find him and take

him back to school. The elementary Principal got fed up about this and asked

if she could handle it! Sure....she was concerned because he will be in K

this year and wanted this to be controlled since he was coming in to her

school next year. I'm VERY pleased with MY ele. principal!!!!! :-)

Sorry yours is such an ignorant person!!! She needs to wake up before

something really serious happens and it will be too late for her

" attitudes " !!!!! GOOD LUCK!! Maybe my principal should " re-direct " yours!!

HAHA

Renae

mom of Brady 7w/cp and Lucas 5w/ds

School Let Him Get Away!!!! Long Vent

> I don't usually post very often, but I have to vent tonight. I am about

> ready to kill a principal. Here's my vent if you feel like listening:

>

> A little history first: My son, Evan, is 5 and goes to public

kindergarten

> in a special needs class all day. Although he is 5, he has the mental

> capacity of a 2-3 year old. Today, there were 3 adults (1 teacher, 2

aides),

> in the classroom with 4 DD kids.

>

> I got a call from the principal of the school at 11:00 today that Evan had

> apparently gotten out of the classroom and was found by some man (they

didn't

> bother to get his name) in the DOWNTOWN AREA that brought him back to the

> school and asked if he possibly belonged there. Then she informed me that

> Evan was fine and back in class and the everything was alright, but she

just

> wanted to give me a call to let me know what had happened.

>

> I was a nervous wreck by now, and I asked if an incident report had been

> made. The principal informed me that everything was fine and that wasn't

> necessary. Sooooooo, I went straight to the police department and asked a

> policeman to accompany me so that a report could be made. Afterall, if

Evan

> had escaped from my house, they would have had the Dept. of Human

Resources

> at my door that next hour and the policeman told me that! So the

policeman

> went and asked a bunch of questions about how, when and where and who

brought

> him back (which no one knew the answer to!). Then he proceeded to leave

> saying for me to call him if I needed him anymore.

>

> WELL...then the principal tells me: " I only called you, Terry, because I

> wanted you to know what happened. But if you are gonna over react when

> something like this happens (and she pointed to the policeman as he was

going

> out the door), then I can't call you anymore. OK.....you can imagine what

I

> said about over reacting.....which wasn't nice at all. I will be nice and

> not type what I said.

>

> Then the principal said: " I went to Evan and told him that he was not to

go

> outside anymore without an adult with him. " So I told her she could have

> just as well told the door or the wall what she told him. It was his aide

> that went out the door and left it unlatched....and he followed

her....which

> is what he is supposed to do all day on any other day......he did what he

> thought he was supposed to do. She went out...so he did too. Only she

> turned a corner and he went straight...straight out the door!

>

> Oh, I am so mad that I could kill someone. I don't know what I am gonna

do

> next. I want to let the school board know about this,....but if I write

> anything right now, I know it won't make sense because I am too upset and

> pregnant hormones are flowing. Anyone have any suggestions to help me get

my

> point across when I do write a letter? I am not as mad about him getting

> away as I am that they didn't find out who brought him back, and the

attitude

> of the principal saying that I over reacted. All I know is it better not

> happen a second time.

>

> Thanks for listening to me if you got this far. This letter to you all

> probably doesn't make a bit of sense but I just needed to VENT. Thanks

for

> being here for me.

>

> Terry

> Mom to Evan, 5, DS (the escape artist),

> and ?? due in November

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Terry

BOY OH BOY!!! Did your story sound familiar!! Last school year Lucas,(4 at

that time w/ds)was in Head Start and on the 3rd day he ran away. I never got

a call....2 or 3 days later someone came up to me on the street and asked

how Lucas was doing! I said what do you mean?? She told me that an elderly

man found him hanging by his foot at the top of a slide in a park!!!! He got

Lucas down but was unably to carry him far(he was old and bad legs)so he

flaged down someone walking a dog and asked her to go to the Head Start and

ask if they were missing anyone. THEY DID NOT EVEN KNOW HE WAS GONE!!!! How

do you miss a child (specially Lucas)!

Anyway.....I went right over when I found out and asked about an incident

report " no, it really wasn't an incident " WHAT!!! I was more mad that they

never contacted me than I was that he ran away(I already know he is a

runner)!! This went on several times during the year, not one call!

Sometimes the special ed. people from the elementary would find him and take

him back to school. The elementary Principal got fed up about this and asked

if she could handle it! Sure....she was concerned because he will be in K

this year and wanted this to be controlled since he was coming in to her

school next year. I'm VERY pleased with MY ele. principal!!!!! :-)

Sorry yours is such an ignorant person!!! She needs to wake up before

something really serious happens and it will be too late for her

" attitudes " !!!!! GOOD LUCK!! Maybe my principal should " re-direct " yours!!

HAHA

Renae

mom of Brady 7w/cp and Lucas 5w/ds

School Let Him Get Away!!!! Long Vent

> I don't usually post very often, but I have to vent tonight. I am about

> ready to kill a principal. Here's my vent if you feel like listening:

>

> A little history first: My son, Evan, is 5 and goes to public

kindergarten

> in a special needs class all day. Although he is 5, he has the mental

> capacity of a 2-3 year old. Today, there were 3 adults (1 teacher, 2

aides),

> in the classroom with 4 DD kids.

>

> I got a call from the principal of the school at 11:00 today that Evan had

> apparently gotten out of the classroom and was found by some man (they

didn't

> bother to get his name) in the DOWNTOWN AREA that brought him back to the

> school and asked if he possibly belonged there. Then she informed me that

> Evan was fine and back in class and the everything was alright, but she

just

> wanted to give me a call to let me know what had happened.

>

> I was a nervous wreck by now, and I asked if an incident report had been

> made. The principal informed me that everything was fine and that wasn't

> necessary. Sooooooo, I went straight to the police department and asked a

> policeman to accompany me so that a report could be made. Afterall, if

Evan

> had escaped from my house, they would have had the Dept. of Human

Resources

> at my door that next hour and the policeman told me that! So the

policeman

> went and asked a bunch of questions about how, when and where and who

brought

> him back (which no one knew the answer to!). Then he proceeded to leave

> saying for me to call him if I needed him anymore.

>

> WELL...then the principal tells me: " I only called you, Terry, because I

> wanted you to know what happened. But if you are gonna over react when

> something like this happens (and she pointed to the policeman as he was

going

> out the door), then I can't call you anymore. OK.....you can imagine what

I

> said about over reacting.....which wasn't nice at all. I will be nice and

> not type what I said.

>

> Then the principal said: " I went to Evan and told him that he was not to

go

> outside anymore without an adult with him. " So I told her she could have

> just as well told the door or the wall what she told him. It was his aide

> that went out the door and left it unlatched....and he followed

her....which

> is what he is supposed to do all day on any other day......he did what he

> thought he was supposed to do. She went out...so he did too. Only she

> turned a corner and he went straight...straight out the door!

>

> Oh, I am so mad that I could kill someone. I don't know what I am gonna

do

> next. I want to let the school board know about this,....but if I write

> anything right now, I know it won't make sense because I am too upset and

> pregnant hormones are flowing. Anyone have any suggestions to help me get

my

> point across when I do write a letter? I am not as mad about him getting

> away as I am that they didn't find out who brought him back, and the

attitude

> of the principal saying that I over reacted. All I know is it better not

> happen a second time.

>

> Thanks for listening to me if you got this far. This letter to you all

> probably doesn't make a bit of sense but I just needed to VENT. Thanks

for

> being here for me.

>

> Terry

> Mom to Evan, 5, DS (the escape artist),

> and ?? due in November

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

DITTO!!!! Good thoughts and suggestions Jodi.

Renae

School Let Him Get Away!!!! Long Vent

>

>

> >I don't usually post very often, but I have to vent tonight. I am about

> >ready to kill a principal. Here's my vent if you feel like listening:

> >

> >A little history first: My son, Evan, is 5 and goes to public

kindergarten

> >in a special needs class all day. Although he is 5, he has the mental

> >capacity of a 2-3 year old. Today, there were 3 adults (1 teacher, 2

> aides),

> >in the classroom with 4 DD kids.

> >

> >I got a call from the principal of the school at 11:00 today that Evan

had

> >apparently gotten out of the classroom and was found by some man (they

> didn't

> >bother to get his name) in the DOWNTOWN AREA that brought him back to the

> >school and asked if he possibly belonged there. Then she informed me

that

> >Evan was fine and back in class and the everything was alright, but she

> just

> >wanted to give me a call to let me know what had happened.

> >

> >I was a nervous wreck by now, and I asked if an incident report had been

> >made. The principal informed me that everything was fine and that wasn't

> >necessary. Sooooooo, I went straight to the police department and asked

a

> >policeman to accompany me so that a report could be made. Afterall, if

> Evan

> >had escaped from my house, they would have had the Dept. of Human

Resources

> >at my door that next hour and the policeman told me that! So the

policeman

> >went and asked a bunch of questions about how, when and where and who

> brought

> >him back (which no one knew the answer to!). Then he proceeded to leave

> >saying for me to call him if I needed him anymore.

> >

> >WELL...then the principal tells me: " I only called you, Terry, because I

> >wanted you to know what happened. But if you are gonna over react when

> >something like this happens (and she pointed to the policeman as he was

> going

> >out the door), then I can't call you anymore. OK.....you can imagine

what

> I

> >said about over reacting.....which wasn't nice at all. I will be nice

and

> >not type what I said.

> >

> >Then the principal said: " I went to Evan and told him that he was not to

go

> >outside anymore without an adult with him. " So I told her she could have

> >just as well told the door or the wall what she told him. It was his

aide

> >that went out the door and left it unlatched....and he followed

> her....which

> >is what he is supposed to do all day on any other day......he did what he

> >thought he was supposed to do. She went out...so he did too. Only she

> >turned a corner and he went straight...straight out the door!

> >

> >Oh, I am so mad that I could kill someone. I don't know what I am gonna

do

> >next. I want to let the school board know about this,....but if I write

> >anything right now, I know it won't make sense because I am too upset and

> >pregnant hormones are flowing. Anyone have any suggestions to help me

get

> my

> >point across when I do write a letter? I am not as mad about him getting

> >away as I am that they didn't find out who brought him back, and the

> attitude

> >of the principal saying that I over reacted. All I know is it better not

> >happen a second time.

> >

> >Thanks for listening to me if you got this far. This letter to you all

> >probably doesn't make a bit of sense but I just needed to VENT. Thanks

for

> >being here for me.

> >

> >Terry

> >Mom to Evan, 5, DS (the escape artist),

> >and ?? due in November

> >

> >

> >Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

> messages to go to the sender of the message.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

DITTO!!!! Good thoughts and suggestions Jodi.

Renae

School Let Him Get Away!!!! Long Vent

>

>

> >I don't usually post very often, but I have to vent tonight. I am about

> >ready to kill a principal. Here's my vent if you feel like listening:

> >

> >A little history first: My son, Evan, is 5 and goes to public

kindergarten

> >in a special needs class all day. Although he is 5, he has the mental

> >capacity of a 2-3 year old. Today, there were 3 adults (1 teacher, 2

> aides),

> >in the classroom with 4 DD kids.

> >

> >I got a call from the principal of the school at 11:00 today that Evan

had

> >apparently gotten out of the classroom and was found by some man (they

> didn't

> >bother to get his name) in the DOWNTOWN AREA that brought him back to the

> >school and asked if he possibly belonged there. Then she informed me

that

> >Evan was fine and back in class and the everything was alright, but she

> just

> >wanted to give me a call to let me know what had happened.

> >

> >I was a nervous wreck by now, and I asked if an incident report had been

> >made. The principal informed me that everything was fine and that wasn't

> >necessary. Sooooooo, I went straight to the police department and asked

a

> >policeman to accompany me so that a report could be made. Afterall, if

> Evan

> >had escaped from my house, they would have had the Dept. of Human

Resources

> >at my door that next hour and the policeman told me that! So the

policeman

> >went and asked a bunch of questions about how, when and where and who

> brought

> >him back (which no one knew the answer to!). Then he proceeded to leave

> >saying for me to call him if I needed him anymore.

> >

> >WELL...then the principal tells me: " I only called you, Terry, because I

> >wanted you to know what happened. But if you are gonna over react when

> >something like this happens (and she pointed to the policeman as he was

> going

> >out the door), then I can't call you anymore. OK.....you can imagine

what

> I

> >said about over reacting.....which wasn't nice at all. I will be nice

and

> >not type what I said.

> >

> >Then the principal said: " I went to Evan and told him that he was not to

go

> >outside anymore without an adult with him. " So I told her she could have

> >just as well told the door or the wall what she told him. It was his

aide

> >that went out the door and left it unlatched....and he followed

> her....which

> >is what he is supposed to do all day on any other day......he did what he

> >thought he was supposed to do. She went out...so he did too. Only she

> >turned a corner and he went straight...straight out the door!

> >

> >Oh, I am so mad that I could kill someone. I don't know what I am gonna

do

> >next. I want to let the school board know about this,....but if I write

> >anything right now, I know it won't make sense because I am too upset and

> >pregnant hormones are flowing. Anyone have any suggestions to help me

get

> my

> >point across when I do write a letter? I am not as mad about him getting

> >away as I am that they didn't find out who brought him back, and the

> attitude

> >of the principal saying that I over reacted. All I know is it better not

> >happen a second time.

> >

> >Thanks for listening to me if you got this far. This letter to you all

> >probably doesn't make a bit of sense but I just needed to VENT. Thanks

for

> >being here for me.

> >

> >Terry

> >Mom to Evan, 5, DS (the escape artist),

> >and ?? due in November

> >

> >

> >Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

> messages to go to the sender of the message.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Terry

I believe you have every right to be upset. How could you possibly be over

reacting when your son could have been kidnapped? That God for good

samaritans. I agree something should be done about that. And for her to say

she won't call you if something like that happens again....... Breathe :-) My

first impulse would to have taken him out of school until..... whenever ...

but hey I am pregnant too so may it really isn't a good idea for me to

comment on this.

I can say think 5 times about what you want to say before you actually write

your letter. Some of your steam would be released by then.

-rukiyah mom of Hassan 4 (ds) and unborn (I have one full month left

Yeeeppeee)

[Guest guest]

Terry

I believe you have every right to be upset. How could you possibly be over

reacting when your son could have been kidnapped? That God for good

samaritans. I agree something should be done about that. And for her to say

she won't call you if something like that happens again....... Breathe :-) My

first impulse would to have taken him out of school until..... whenever ...

but hey I am pregnant too so may it really isn't a good idea for me to

comment on this.

I can say think 5 times about what you want to say before you actually write

your letter. Some of your steam would be released by then.

-rukiyah mom of Hassan 4 (ds) and unborn (I have one full month left

Yeeeppeee)

[Guest guest]

All, if you look at an old issue of Disability Solutions newsletter both the

police and the parents should be notified within 1 minute of not being able

to locate a missing child. How dare the principal state that they won't

call you again. At this point regardless of how irrational you may think

you sound at a school board meeting, the response of the principal is

legally invalid and could place the school district in a place that they

would not like to be in (i.e. a lawsuit). I would not wait to address this

issue until I was calm. I would want this issue addressed today. Just my

2c. Kim ~ mom to Jordan who was missing for over 15 minutes when he was

finally found by a good sam 4 blocks from where he should have been.

[Guest guest]

All, if you look at an old issue of Disability Solutions newsletter both the

police and the parents should be notified within 1 minute of not being able

to locate a missing child. How dare the principal state that they won't

call you again. At this point regardless of how irrational you may think

you sound at a school board meeting, the response of the principal is

legally invalid and could place the school district in a place that they

would not like to be in (i.e. a lawsuit). I would not wait to address this

issue until I was calm. I would want this issue addressed today. Just my

2c. Kim ~ mom to Jordan who was missing for over 15 minutes when he was

finally found by a good sam 4 blocks from where he should have been.

[Guest guest]

Terry,

You do need to call an IEP ASAP! You all need to meet (again) with local

law enforcement for that area. Ask for the commanding officer (usually a

captain). Give them a picture of Evan and have the captain staff this with

the other officers. They need to know him and also need to know where he

belongs (and I would tell them if this happens again, to contact you before

the school...see how long it would take the school to notice he was gone).

Write up a CODE EVAN

Make sure you include that CODE EVAN is to be part of his IEP. Our CODE

MATTHEW states that law enforcement will be called within one minute after

staff notice is gone. once disappeared and it was 8 minutes

(so they say) before they found him (and who knows how long it took them to

notice!).

Let me know if you need help writing up CODE EVAN. CODE MATTHEW is found at

http://disabilitysolutions.org.

BTW, the police should have contacted CPS. I was doing CPS myself when

left the school...I bet they were all shaking in their boots for

awhile! I know how you are feeling right now. ((((((((((HUGS))))))))).

[Guest guest]

Terry,

You do need to call an IEP ASAP! You all need to meet (again) with local

law enforcement for that area. Ask for the commanding officer (usually a

captain). Give them a picture of Evan and have the captain staff this with

the other officers. They need to know him and also need to know where he

belongs (and I would tell them if this happens again, to contact you before

the school...see how long it would take the school to notice he was gone).

Write up a CODE EVAN

Make sure you include that CODE EVAN is to be part of his IEP. Our CODE

MATTHEW states that law enforcement will be called within one minute after

staff notice is gone. once disappeared and it was 8 minutes

(so they say) before they found him (and who knows how long it took them to

notice!).

Let me know if you need help writing up CODE EVAN. CODE MATTHEW is found at

http://disabilitysolutions.org.

BTW, the police should have contacted CPS. I was doing CPS myself when

left the school...I bet they were all shaking in their boots for

awhile! I know how you are feeling right now. ((((((((((HUGS))))))))).

[Guest guest]

All I brought up the lost child issue in May ~ I did some research on the

subject and found that there is indeed a " lojack " system for people. In the

state of CT, the CT Highway Patrol provides wristbands to be used for

individuals with Alzheimer's. I'm waiting for CT to send me more

information... as soon as I get more info I'll pass it on...