Re: GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

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In a message dated 8/14/01 9:21:49 AM Central Daylight Time,

tcasten@... writes:

> Ill get off my soap box now!

>

> --

> Best regards,

>

> Timbo

YIPPEE....... Timbo for President lololol

Hey Tim, are the mom and pop stores union?

Kathy mom to Sara 9

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In a message dated 8/14/01 9:21:49 AM Central Daylight Time,

tcasten@... writes:

> Ill get off my soap box now!

>

> --

> Best regards,

>

> Timbo

YIPPEE....... Timbo for President lololol

Hey Tim, are the mom and pop stores union?

Kathy mom to Sara 9

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/14/2001 10:21:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

tcasten@... writes:

> So we should support a Company who refuses to allow their employees to

> Unionize, just so they can continually underbid and under price the

> Mom and Pop Stores down the street or on the Corner of your

> neighborhood.

>

> Walmart gives you these prices at a cost, and the cost doesn't come out

> of their pocket or yours, it comes out of their employees pocket, or I

> should say it never enters their pocket in the first place.

>

Exactly why I have never--WILL NEVER-- set foot in a Walmart Store in my

lifetime!!!

-- A good union wife... International Brotherhood of Electrical

Workers

Local 252!!!

" Let us not be content to wait and see what will happen, but give us the

determination to make the right things happen. " -- Marshall

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/14/2001 10:21:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

tcasten@... writes:

> So we should support a Company who refuses to allow their employees to

> Unionize, just so they can continually underbid and under price the

> Mom and Pop Stores down the street or on the Corner of your

> neighborhood.

>

> Walmart gives you these prices at a cost, and the cost doesn't come out

> of their pocket or yours, it comes out of their employees pocket, or I

> should say it never enters their pocket in the first place.

>

Exactly why I have never--WILL NEVER-- set foot in a Walmart Store in my

lifetime!!!

-- A good union wife... International Brotherhood of Electrical

Workers

Local 252!!!

" Let us not be content to wait and see what will happen, but give us the

determination to make the right things happen. " -- Marshall

[Guest guest]

What about SAM's club?

[Guest guest]

What about SAM's club?

[Guest guest]

speaks truth, for a change. The disparity between rich and poor in

the US is going to bring our economy crashing down around our ears. I have

to admit, I do shop at Wal-Mart now and then, but I trade mostly with Ma and

Pa shops. My grocery store is family-owned, so is my hardware store, drug

store and the nursery where I buy plants. Sure I pay more at these places,

but at least I know the money is going to someone who works for a living

rather than a global corporation that uses slave labor and has the authority

to overrule the economic policies of the US government and other nations!

granny, thinking Timbo may have talked her into boycotting Wal-Mart

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

> Hello UpsNdowns,

>

> So we should support a Company who refuses to allow their employees to

> Unionize, just so they can continually underbid and under price the

> Mom and Pop Stores down the street or on the Corner of your

> neighborhood.

>

> Walmart gives you these prices at a cost, and the cost doesn't come out

> of their pocket or yours, it comes out of their employees pocket, or I

> should say it never enters their pocket in the first place.

>

> They are severely underpaid, just not in hourly wages but benefits

> also.

>

> They are treated like slave labor, but then why shouldn't they be, all

> the clothing they purchase is made in the Sweat Shops of South

> America.

>

> The Unions of the past built this Country, they fought long and hard

> to insure that laborers were treated fairly, received proper wages for

> their work, and the proper benefits for their non working retirement

> years.

>

> Unions are now declining, why, well its because the citizens of America

only

> care about themselves. We only care about saving a buck here and

> there, we don't care about the fact that the Mother working the Cash

> Register at Walmart, works 8 hours a day, leaves there to go to her second

> job for another 4 or so hours just so she can make ends meet, just so

> she can pay high cost of child care and put food on her kids table. This

is

> the problem, people and companies have become greedy, they want more

> bang for the buck. Not that anything is wrong with that, but it is

> destroying the strong principles that Organized Labor had fought so

> hard to provide.

>

> Its time that the people of this great Nation open their eyes and see

> what they are creating by their selfish ways. When Unions are gone,

> we will all be making minimum wage, working two jobs, and will have

> nobody to blame but ourselves. We are the ones who supported these

> anti-union slave labor Organizations and one day you or your children

> will be forced to work for one.

>

> So think about this the next time you buy a shirt that doesn't have the

> Union Made insignia on it. Think about what and the philosophies you are

supporting, Think

> about the future you are building (or not building)for your children.

>

> Ill get off my soap box now!

>

> --

> Best regards,

>

> Timbo

>

> Casten ZDC mailto:tcasten@...

> National Air Traffic Controllers Association, AFL/CIO

> National Communications Chairman

> NatcaNet Administrator

>

> Tuesday, August 14, 2001, 9:16:21 AM, you wrote:

>

> Sac> BUT.....If Wal-Mart were UNION, we couldnt still get all those nice

prices!!

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

speaks truth, for a change. The disparity between rich and poor in

the US is going to bring our economy crashing down around our ears. I have

to admit, I do shop at Wal-Mart now and then, but I trade mostly with Ma and

Pa shops. My grocery store is family-owned, so is my hardware store, drug

store and the nursery where I buy plants. Sure I pay more at these places,

but at least I know the money is going to someone who works for a living

rather than a global corporation that uses slave labor and has the authority

to overrule the economic policies of the US government and other nations!

granny, thinking Timbo may have talked her into boycotting Wal-Mart

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

> Hello UpsNdowns,

>

> So we should support a Company who refuses to allow their employees to

> Unionize, just so they can continually underbid and under price the

> Mom and Pop Stores down the street or on the Corner of your

> neighborhood.

>

> Walmart gives you these prices at a cost, and the cost doesn't come out

> of their pocket or yours, it comes out of their employees pocket, or I

> should say it never enters their pocket in the first place.

>

> They are severely underpaid, just not in hourly wages but benefits

> also.

>

> They are treated like slave labor, but then why shouldn't they be, all

> the clothing they purchase is made in the Sweat Shops of South

> America.

>

> The Unions of the past built this Country, they fought long and hard

> to insure that laborers were treated fairly, received proper wages for

> their work, and the proper benefits for their non working retirement

> years.

>

> Unions are now declining, why, well its because the citizens of America

only

> care about themselves. We only care about saving a buck here and

> there, we don't care about the fact that the Mother working the Cash

> Register at Walmart, works 8 hours a day, leaves there to go to her second

> job for another 4 or so hours just so she can make ends meet, just so

> she can pay high cost of child care and put food on her kids table. This

is

> the problem, people and companies have become greedy, they want more

> bang for the buck. Not that anything is wrong with that, but it is

> destroying the strong principles that Organized Labor had fought so

> hard to provide.

>

> Its time that the people of this great Nation open their eyes and see

> what they are creating by their selfish ways. When Unions are gone,

> we will all be making minimum wage, working two jobs, and will have

> nobody to blame but ourselves. We are the ones who supported these

> anti-union slave labor Organizations and one day you or your children

> will be forced to work for one.

>

> So think about this the next time you buy a shirt that doesn't have the

> Union Made insignia on it. Think about what and the philosophies you are

supporting, Think

> about the future you are building (or not building)for your children.

>

> Ill get off my soap box now!

>

> --

> Best regards,

>

> Timbo

>

> Casten ZDC mailto:tcasten@...

> National Air Traffic Controllers Association, AFL/CIO

> National Communications Chairman

> NatcaNet Administrator

>

> Tuesday, August 14, 2001, 9:16:21 AM, you wrote:

>

> Sac> BUT.....If Wal-Mart were UNION, we couldnt still get all those nice

prices!!

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/14/2001 10:22:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

tcasten@... writes:

> is made in the Sweat Shops of South

> America.

>

Ahem, I believe Kathy Lee Gifford's clothing line was made in sweat shops

in the USA, weren't they??

It is SO HARD to find clothes made in the USA (yes Tim, I am married to a

UNION official (ILA Local 1970) and he would be VERY perturbed if I did not

shop appropriately! I was in JCPenney's one time and could not find one item

of clothing made in the USA!!

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/14/2001 10:22:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

tcasten@... writes:

> is made in the Sweat Shops of South

> America.

>

Ahem, I believe Kathy Lee Gifford's clothing line was made in sweat shops

in the USA, weren't they??

It is SO HARD to find clothes made in the USA (yes Tim, I am married to a

UNION official (ILA Local 1970) and he would be VERY perturbed if I did not

shop appropriately! I was in JCPenney's one time and could not find one item

of clothing made in the USA!!

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

tcasten@... writes:

>Hello UpsNdowns,

>

>So we should support a Company who refuses to allow their employees to

>Unionize, just so they can continually underbid and under price the

>Mom and Pop Stores down the street or on the Corner of your

>neighborhood.

>

>Walmart gives you these prices at a cost, and the cost doesn't come out

>of their pocket or yours, it comes out of their employees pocket, or I

>should say it never enters their pocket in the first place.

Hi!

I'm not in anyway disagreeing with the points you've made. Far from it.

Bigger is usually not better (want to know why the cost of Lumber has gone

up so dramatically? Thank Lowes. They bought up all the lumber futures a

number of years ago. Once they literally owned all the lumber east of the

Mississippi, they more than doubled the cost per board foot.). Capitalism

is ost definitley mot a moral entity it's sole quest is the accumulation

of wealth.

Allow me to ask these questions. Are reatailers such as K-Mart or Ames...

significantly different in their practices than Wal-Mart? I know that

Wal-Mart at least has employee profit sharing.

What are the ethical alternatives to Wal-Mart? Living here in rural

America, there is Wal-Mart & Ames.

Take care,

Kent

[Guest guest]

tcasten@... writes:

>Hello UpsNdowns,

>

>So we should support a Company who refuses to allow their employees to

>Unionize, just so they can continually underbid and under price the

>Mom and Pop Stores down the street or on the Corner of your

>neighborhood.

>

>Walmart gives you these prices at a cost, and the cost doesn't come out

>of their pocket or yours, it comes out of their employees pocket, or I

>should say it never enters their pocket in the first place.

Hi!

I'm not in anyway disagreeing with the points you've made. Far from it.

Bigger is usually not better (want to know why the cost of Lumber has gone

up so dramatically? Thank Lowes. They bought up all the lumber futures a

number of years ago. Once they literally owned all the lumber east of the

Mississippi, they more than doubled the cost per board foot.). Capitalism

is ost definitley mot a moral entity it's sole quest is the accumulation

of wealth.

Allow me to ask these questions. Are reatailers such as K-Mart or Ames...

significantly different in their practices than Wal-Mart? I know that

Wal-Mart at least has employee profit sharing.

What are the ethical alternatives to Wal-Mart? Living here in rural

America, there is Wal-Mart & Ames.

Take care,

Kent

[Guest guest]

I have always been pro-union but you know who started the downslide

with union busting don't you? Not Walmart. It was Reagan. I agree

if it weren't for the unions none of us would have the standard of living we

do now. That was the start of the slippery slope. The first time I heard of

a union agreeing to a pay cut for it's members I knew.

There are many things that are not made in this country at any price,

I will buy American any time I can but if no one is making them how can we.

Companies ship the work out to avoid paying decent wages. Many companies

broke their unions years ago.

Last year a local grocery warehouse, Associated Grocers, which

supplies most of the supermarkets in the area set out to do that too. They

had a disagreement with their truck drivers, and it became not a strike but a

lock-out. Most of us supported the drivers. There were no stores in our

immediate area that were not involved. So many of us, including me, drove

miles away to shop at stores that had a different supplier. It was very

inconvenient and difficult to do this, and cost us more but we supported the

union drivers. So don't tell me I'm not a union supporter. Finally Ass.

Grocers, gave in and settled with the union, and the drivers asked us to come

back. What a relief!

I don't even know if Kmart and Target and other stores are union or

not. But friends who work at Walmart tell me it's a good place to work, not

as much fun as in the commercials but still a good place. I'm sure it varies

from store to store. Our local one is not too large, and we know people

there, and they know us. The people are friendly, and of varying colors,

there seems to be no discrimination. They had a girl in a wheelchair as a

greeter for awhile but she wasn't really able to do it. ( would be

great at that)

Dillard's got in trouble for racial bias, there was a big lawsuit here

in KC and they lost. Employees said at that time they were told to watch

people with wheel chairs and to watch black people. I don't shop there.

Some of the malls we have to walk thru Dillard's because that's where the

elevators are, but I am uncomfortable wondering if they are watching me.

Walmart has not hurt our neighborhood. In fact new small businesses

have moved in since they opened here. I have one friend who has all sorts of

excuses why she doesn't like to shop there but I know her, and what it really

is, is that a lot of black people work there. I will shop where customers

are treated well and employees too. Union or not, these days.

Jessie

[Guest guest]

I have always been pro-union but you know who started the downslide

with union busting don't you? Not Walmart. It was Reagan. I agree

if it weren't for the unions none of us would have the standard of living we

do now. That was the start of the slippery slope. The first time I heard of

a union agreeing to a pay cut for it's members I knew.

There are many things that are not made in this country at any price,

I will buy American any time I can but if no one is making them how can we.

Companies ship the work out to avoid paying decent wages. Many companies

broke their unions years ago.

Last year a local grocery warehouse, Associated Grocers, which

supplies most of the supermarkets in the area set out to do that too. They

had a disagreement with their truck drivers, and it became not a strike but a

lock-out. Most of us supported the drivers. There were no stores in our

immediate area that were not involved. So many of us, including me, drove

miles away to shop at stores that had a different supplier. It was very

inconvenient and difficult to do this, and cost us more but we supported the

union drivers. So don't tell me I'm not a union supporter. Finally Ass.

Grocers, gave in and settled with the union, and the drivers asked us to come

back. What a relief!

I don't even know if Kmart and Target and other stores are union or

not. But friends who work at Walmart tell me it's a good place to work, not

as much fun as in the commercials but still a good place. I'm sure it varies

from store to store. Our local one is not too large, and we know people

there, and they know us. The people are friendly, and of varying colors,

there seems to be no discrimination. They had a girl in a wheelchair as a

greeter for awhile but she wasn't really able to do it. ( would be

great at that)

Dillard's got in trouble for racial bias, there was a big lawsuit here

in KC and they lost. Employees said at that time they were told to watch

people with wheel chairs and to watch black people. I don't shop there.

Some of the malls we have to walk thru Dillard's because that's where the

elevators are, but I am uncomfortable wondering if they are watching me.

Walmart has not hurt our neighborhood. In fact new small businesses

have moved in since they opened here. I have one friend who has all sorts of

excuses why she doesn't like to shop there but I know her, and what it really

is, is that a lot of black people work there. I will shop where customers

are treated well and employees too. Union or not, these days.

Jessie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/14/01 9:41:34 AM Central Daylight Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> My grocery store is family-owned, so is my hardware store, drug

>

My grocery store is family owned too, by the richest man in town. He owns

several. There aren't any mom and pop groceries around any more, can't even

remember when there were. Our hardware store is often cheaper than Walmart

too. I don't go there because it's cheaper, I'm not sure it is. But we can

go there and find most everything, and it's hard to go several places when

you have to haul a wheelchair in and out of the car at every stop. I can't

do that too many times a day. He has a lightweight but it still weighs

nearly 30 pounds and has to be swung in and out of the trunk. Our pharmacy

is a pop, I guess, no mom, and gives such good service I wouldn't want to go

anywhere else. Jessie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/14/01 9:41:34 AM Central Daylight Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> My grocery store is family-owned, so is my hardware store, drug

>

My grocery store is family owned too, by the richest man in town. He owns

several. There aren't any mom and pop groceries around any more, can't even

remember when there were. Our hardware store is often cheaper than Walmart

too. I don't go there because it's cheaper, I'm not sure it is. But we can

go there and find most everything, and it's hard to go several places when

you have to haul a wheelchair in and out of the car at every stop. I can't

do that too many times a day. He has a lightweight but it still weighs

nearly 30 pounds and has to be swung in and out of the trunk. Our pharmacy

is a pop, I guess, no mom, and gives such good service I wouldn't want to go

anywhere else. Jessie

[Guest guest]

<< I have always been pro-union but you know who started the

downslide

with union busting don't you? Not Walmart. It was Reagan. >>

My children's father was an Air Traffic Controller at this time in the

early

80's. We lived in NY and he worked at LaGuardia. He was one of a very

few that was re-instated with full back pay.

I know quite a few that committed suicide over what Reagan did. On the

positive side, My son will be starting school in the fall to become an

ATC.

His dad is now teaching at the school.

Gail in Cleveland

[Guest guest]

<< I have always been pro-union but you know who started the

downslide

with union busting don't you? Not Walmart. It was Reagan. >>

My children's father was an Air Traffic Controller at this time in the

early

80's. We lived in NY and he worked at LaGuardia. He was one of a very

few that was re-instated with full back pay.

I know quite a few that committed suicide over what Reagan did. On the

positive side, My son will be starting school in the fall to become an

ATC.

His dad is now teaching at the school.

Gail in Cleveland

[Guest guest]

I think they are not much different, Kent. That's why I trade with Ma and Pa

stores whenever possible, even though I may pay a bit more. Alas, sometimes

it's not possible because the big corps have run them out of business.

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

Re: GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

> tcasten@... writes:

> >Hello UpsNdowns,

> >

> >So we should support a Company who refuses to allow their employees to

> >Unionize, just so they can continually underbid and under price the

> >Mom and Pop Stores down the street or on the Corner of your

> >neighborhood.

> >

> >Walmart gives you these prices at a cost, and the cost doesn't come out

> >of their pocket or yours, it comes out of their employees pocket, or I

> >should say it never enters their pocket in the first place.

>

>

> Hi!

>

> I'm not in anyway disagreeing with the points you've made. Far from it.

> Bigger is usually not better (want to know why the cost of Lumber has gone

> up so dramatically? Thank Lowes. They bought up all the lumber futures a

> number of years ago. Once they literally owned all the lumber east of the

> Mississippi, they more than doubled the cost per board foot.). Capitalism

> is ost definitley mot a moral entity it's sole quest is the accumulation

> of wealth.

>

> Allow me to ask these questions. Are reatailers such as K-Mart or Ames...

> significantly different in their practices than Wal-Mart? I know that

> Wal-Mart at least has employee profit sharing.

>

> What are the ethical alternatives to Wal-Mart? Living here in rural

> America, there is Wal-Mart & Ames.

>

>

> Take care,

>

>

> Kent

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think they are not much different, Kent. That's why I trade with Ma and Pa

stores whenever possible, even though I may pay a bit more. Alas, sometimes

it's not possible because the big corps have run them out of business.

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

Re: GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

> tcasten@... writes:

> >Hello UpsNdowns,

> >

> >So we should support a Company who refuses to allow their employees to

> >Unionize, just so they can continually underbid and under price the

> >Mom and Pop Stores down the street or on the Corner of your

> >neighborhood.

> >

> >Walmart gives you these prices at a cost, and the cost doesn't come out

> >of their pocket or yours, it comes out of their employees pocket, or I

> >should say it never enters their pocket in the first place.

>

>

> Hi!

>

> I'm not in anyway disagreeing with the points you've made. Far from it.

> Bigger is usually not better (want to know why the cost of Lumber has gone

> up so dramatically? Thank Lowes. They bought up all the lumber futures a

> number of years ago. Once they literally owned all the lumber east of the

> Mississippi, they more than doubled the cost per board foot.). Capitalism

> is ost definitley mot a moral entity it's sole quest is the accumulation

> of wealth.

>

> Allow me to ask these questions. Are reatailers such as K-Mart or Ames...

> significantly different in their practices than Wal-Mart? I know that

> Wal-Mart at least has employee profit sharing.

>

> What are the ethical alternatives to Wal-Mart? Living here in rural

> America, there is Wal-Mart & Ames.

>

>

> Take care,

>

>

> Kent

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

The " Made in the USA " label means nothing, Cheryl, because corporations

operating out of American Samoa, using slave labor are allowed to put that

label on their products.

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

Re: GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

> In a message dated 8/14/2001 10:22:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> tcasten@... writes:

>

>

> > is made in the Sweat Shops of South

> > America.

> >

> Ahem, I believe Kathy Lee Gifford's clothing line was made in sweat

shops

> in the USA, weren't they??

>

> It is SO HARD to find clothes made in the USA (yes Tim, I am married to a

> UNION official (ILA Local 1970) and he would be VERY perturbed if I did

not

> shop appropriately! I was in JCPenney's one time and could not find one

item

> of clothing made in the USA!!

>

> Cheryl in VA

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The " Made in the USA " label means nothing, Cheryl, because corporations

operating out of American Samoa, using slave labor are allowed to put that

label on their products.

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

Re: GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

> In a message dated 8/14/2001 10:22:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> tcasten@... writes:

>

>

> > is made in the Sweat Shops of South

> > America.

> >

> Ahem, I believe Kathy Lee Gifford's clothing line was made in sweat

shops

> in the USA, weren't they??

>

> It is SO HARD to find clothes made in the USA (yes Tim, I am married to a

> UNION official (ILA Local 1970) and he would be VERY perturbed if I did

not

> shop appropriately! I was in JCPenney's one time and could not find one

item

> of clothing made in the USA!!

>

> Cheryl in VA

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The drug store and hardware store at which I trade deliver! And our Mom and

Pop grocery story is thinking about adding a delivery service.

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

Re: GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

> In a message dated 8/14/01 9:41:34 AM Central Daylight Time,

> bspyle@... writes:

>

>

> > My grocery store is family-owned, so is my hardware store, drug

> >

>

> My grocery store is family owned too, by the richest man in town. He owns

> several. There aren't any mom and pop groceries around any more, can't

even

> remember when there were. Our hardware store is often cheaper than

Walmart

> too. I don't go there because it's cheaper, I'm not sure it is. But we

can

> go there and find most everything, and it's hard to go several places when

> you have to haul a wheelchair in and out of the car at every stop. I

can't

> do that too many times a day. He has a lightweight but it still weighs

> nearly 30 pounds and has to be swung in and out of the trunk. Our

pharmacy

> is a pop, I guess, no mom, and gives such good service I wouldn't want to

go

> anywhere else. Jessie

>

[Guest guest]

The drug store and hardware store at which I trade deliver! And our Mom and

Pop grocery story is thinking about adding a delivery service.

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

Re: GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

> In a message dated 8/14/01 9:41:34 AM Central Daylight Time,

> bspyle@... writes:

>

>

> > My grocery store is family-owned, so is my hardware store, drug

> >

>

> My grocery store is family owned too, by the richest man in town. He owns

> several. There aren't any mom and pop groceries around any more, can't

even

> remember when there were. Our hardware store is often cheaper than

Walmart

> too. I don't go there because it's cheaper, I'm not sure it is. But we

can

> go there and find most everything, and it's hard to go several places when

> you have to haul a wheelchair in and out of the car at every stop. I

can't

> do that too many times a day. He has a lightweight but it still weighs

> nearly 30 pounds and has to be swung in and out of the trunk. Our

pharmacy

> is a pop, I guess, no mom, and gives such good service I wouldn't want to

go

> anywhere else. Jessie

>

[Guest guest]

I was a delegate to the Texas State Democratic Convention when the Air

Traffic Controllers came to us, begged our forgiveness for their endorsement

of Reagan, and asked us to take them back in. We did. Now the Democratic

Party is as destructive to unions as the Republicans and I've washed my

hands of both. I even call them the Republicrats because, as Wallace

said, " There's not a dime's worth of difference. " Never thought I'd be

quoting Wallace!

granny, Green Party activist

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" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

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Re: GO AHEAD SUPPORT NON UNION WAS walmart/unions

>

> << I have always been pro-union but you know who started the

> downslide

> with union busting don't you? Not Walmart. It was Reagan. >>

>

> My children's father was an Air Traffic Controller at this time in the

> early

> 80's. We lived in NY and he worked at LaGuardia. He was one of a very

> few that was re-instated with full back pay.

> I know quite a few that committed suicide over what Reagan did. On the

> positive side, My son will be starting school in the fall to become an

> ATC.

> His dad is now teaching at the school.

> Gail in Cleveland

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