Guest guest Posted August 2, 2000 Report Share Posted August 2, 2000 I think this is a situation where every child is different. We did AIT for Danny last year and are currently in the midst of Tomatis. When we did AIT, a large part of Danny's issues with hearing things that we don't normalized (ie: he used to hear airplanes that we barely could see in the sky). His receptive language took a very large leap after we were finished with AIT. We saw some really good things with AIT. We went to the Center out in Budd Lake. I really like Dorinne . If anyone is interested, you should contact her, I am sure that she will be happy to answer any questions. I know this week she is doing an outreach for AIT in ocean county. She is planning on doing one in White Plains in Sept. Roe Message: 7 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:54:04 -0700 From: " 1raptor " <1raptor@...> Subject: Re: AIT Training Hi Diane, The only treatments that I have tried were concerning the medical issues. I think it's important to get the brain working properly before anything else. The only thing I have heard about AIT was in J. Smythes testimony.(link below) He is now addressing the medical issues, but in his testimony he states that his son lost the few words he had after AIT. Cheryl http://www.house.gov/reform/hearings/healthcare/00.06.04/smythe.htm > > Has anyone ever tried AIT Training? My son is five years old and we have > an opportunity to try this treatment. Any feedback good or bad would be > greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2000 Report Share Posted August 4, 2000 CAn you tell me what AIT entails? What is actually being done? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AndyCutler@... writes: << << Please give more details on the testing for auditory intregration and your comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of therapy. I was under the impression that this was something very difficult to Dx. and there were no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate with written instructions. >> >> Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of practitioners across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard method using the EERS machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT and it worked wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He mastered programs we'd been struggling with for over a year -- all within three weeks of the training...and he was more aware of what what going on around him! Here's the link: <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana Institute Home Page</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 In a message dated 08/05/2000 1:50:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kblanco@... writes: << Is this related? Have heard that measles can make you have hearing loss, so with the combo of chronic activation of measles from vaccines and mercury, this is why our kids have auditory problems? KAthy >> Kathy: Yes, I've heard that too. I believe it...whether or not it's proven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AndyCutler@... writes: << << Please give more details on the testing for auditory intregration and your comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of therapy. I was under the impression that this was something very difficult to Dx. and there were no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate with written instructions. >> >> Hello, I don't know about being corrected with a few weeks. Our experience with AIT was a good one. But we noticed little changes, and now I really see major differences in pain threshold. Before Missy would hurt herself she would barely notice. Now, I don't have a child that throws herself down on pavement on her knees just to feel something (no she would not cry while doing this over and over), I have a child that seems to have her sense of pain becoming more " normal " or what we would call normal. =) Although her speech has improved dramatically, I count that with everything else that I have been doing (especially the ALA) We did the AIT in May, and since then my daughter could easily have a contract with the Memorex people for commercials, she is extremely loud! =) (which is ten times better than the silence) Here is the link to who did our AIT and a bit of info in case you are interested. http://www.aitresources.com/ Have a good day all, Kathleen =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 Is this related? Have heard that measles can make you have hearing loss, so with the combo of chronic activation of measles from vaccines and mercury, this is why our kids have auditory problems? KAthy Re: [ ] AIT >In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >AndyCutler@... writes: > ><< << Please give more details on the testing for auditory intregration and >your > comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of therapy. I was under > the impression that this was something very difficult to Dx. and there were > no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate with written > instructions. >> >> > >Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of practitioners >across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard method using the EERS >machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT and it worked >wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He mastered programs we'd >been struggling with for over a year -- all within three weeks of the >training...and he was more aware of what what going on around him! Here's the >link: > <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana Institute Home >Page</A> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 My autistic son had hyperacusis and hypersensitive hearing. He had DAA(Digital Auditory Aerobics), which is the same as AIT, only using an American made machine. It only took 10 days. After that he was profoundly changed regarding his hearing dysfunction. It made a world of difference for him, but is only effective for those with hearing dysfunction. The DAA or AIT practitioner will have an extensive evaluation survey, (may be 10 pages long), which will ask questions like: Does your child cover their ears? Can they hear things long before you do? Etc... The Georgiana Institute is the best resource for information. Contact me directly if you want more information. Don ddamiani@... Jim Blanco wrote: > Is this related? > Have heard that measles can make you have hearing loss, so with the combo of > chronic activation of measles from vaccines and mercury, this is why our > kids have auditory problems? > KAthy > Re: [ ] AIT > > >In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >AndyCutler@... writes: > > > ><< << Please give more details on the testing for auditory intregration and > >your > > comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of therapy. I was under > > the impression that this was something very difficult to Dx. and there > were > > no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate with written > > instructions. >> >> > > > >Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of practitioners > >across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard method using the > EERS > >machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT and it worked > >wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He mastered programs > we'd > >been struggling with for over a year -- all within three weeks of the > >training...and he was more aware of what what going on around him! Here's > the > >link: > > <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana Institute Home > >Page</A> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 I have the disc's at home and have used them occasionally. Actually, I have done my own kind of therapy with this, and that is playing MOZART in our home continuasly (we have an intercom stereo system). This has been the bigger improvement more than AIT. Have talked to a few professors at U of Utah about this and there are studies about it. Some schools started doing this too which increased attention and test scores. The mozart factor, hmmm? Anyways, another thought is, prep yourself this is a gross question. Do all of your kids have a problem with ear wax? Was wondering if that has something to do with some kind of deficiency or fatty acid problems or mercuralism? My son after a seizure had BLACK one inch succors in his ears, once cleaned out, he appeared to be quite responsive and cognizent and verbal. I have to ROUTINELY go to the pediatric office (they just love this-and by the way I REQUESTED they do this or they are fired ) to clean my son's ears out. Is this a sign also of allergies? Just wondering? Secretory IgA deficiency? Re: [ ] AIT >> >> >In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> >AndyCutler@... writes: >> > >> ><< << Please give more details on the testing for auditory intregration and >> >your >> > comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of therapy. I was under >> > the impression that this was something very difficult to Dx. and there >> were >> > no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate with written >> > instructions. >> >> >> > >> >Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of practitioners >> >across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard method using the >> EERS >> >machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT and it worked >> >wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He mastered programs >> we'd >> >been struggling with for over a year -- all within three weeks of the >> >training...and he was more aware of what what going on around him! Here's >> the >> >link: >> > <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana Institute Home >> >Page</A> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 Dear Kathy, I had AIT twice and so did Jen have Generic AIT twice. The disc is not the same. I was extremely sound sick and that disc would have never did any good.I was 38 years old when I had my first AIT and life was much better for me. I spend so much of life sick. I had an audiogram by Henry to determine exactly what my problem was. She told me at the bottom of what you know as the sound that create music I had a peak that showed on the audiogram chart. We were never able to get an audiogram on Jen. That is why Henry did Generic AIT twice. Every time we tried an audiogram and we tried many time on Jen ... Jen would shut off and became limp. The sound I heard during the first days of AIT were sounds that were played to through the kinetron machine. Parts were missing parts of the music ... very specific parts the parts that made up the peak that showed on my audiogram. Because each person hearing is different it would be impossible for a mass-produced disc to correct a problem like mine. It might work to amuse, calm, but not correct a hearing problem. We also own the Mozart's. They work great when she has a tantrum sometimes .... I like them too. Oh, I got the Fax. Thank you so much. Take Care and God Bless Beverly Weakley Mom of Jen ... age 11 1/2 years Re: [ ] AIT > >> > >> >In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >> >AndyCutler@... writes: > >> > > >> ><< << Please give more details on the testing for auditory intregration > and > >> >your > >> > comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of therapy. I was > under > >> > the impression that this was something very difficult to Dx. and there > >> were > >> > no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate with written > >> > instructions. >> >> > >> > > >> >Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of > practitioners > >> >across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard method using the > >> EERS > >> >machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT and it worked > >> >wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He mastered programs > >> we'd > >> >been struggling with for over a year -- all within three weeks of the > >> >training...and he was more aware of what what going on around him! > Here's > >> the > >> >link: > >> > <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana Institute > Home > >> >Page</A> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 The big difference between AIT or DAA it that the CDs are basically normal, and the machine modulates the music. Listening to them through a regular CD player won't work. The premise of DAA is that certain sounds are too painful, and therefore " tuned out " . Then of course, lots of other things are tuned out too. For my son, painful was a baby's cry, a cow's " moo " , and even my voice among other things. After 10 days of listening to this modulated music through headphones, my voice, the baby and the cow, and a host of other things no longer bother him. The " easy listening " type music, including SAMONAS, does nothing to retrain the brain and the ears for what to tune out and what not to tune out. Don Jim Blanco wrote: > I have the disc's at home and have used them occasionally. Actually, I > have done my own kind of therapy with this, and that is playing MOZART in > our home continuasly (we have an intercom stereo system). This has been the > bigger improvement more than AIT. Have talked to a few professors at U of > Utah about this and there are studies about it. Some schools started doing > this too which increased attention and test scores. The mozart factor, > hmmm? > > Anyways, another thought is, prep yourself this is a gross question. Do all > of your kids have a problem with ear wax? Was wondering if that has > something to do with some kind of deficiency or fatty acid problems or > mercuralism? My son after a seizure had BLACK one inch succors in his ears, > once cleaned out, he appeared to be quite responsive and cognizent and > verbal. I have to ROUTINELY go to the pediatric office (they just love > this-and by the way I REQUESTED they do this or they are fired ) to clean my > son's ears out. Is this a sign also of allergies? Just wondering? > Secretory IgA deficiency? > > Re: [ ] AIT > >> > >> >In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >> >AndyCutler@... writes: > >> > > >> ><< << Please give more details on the testing for auditory intregration > and > >> >your > >> > comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of therapy. I was > under > >> > the impression that this was something very difficult to Dx. and there > >> were > >> > no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate with written > >> > instructions. >> >> > >> > > >> >Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of > practitioners > >> >across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard method using the > >> EERS > >> >machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT and it worked > >> >wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He mastered programs > >> we'd > >> >been struggling with for over a year -- all within three weeks of the > >> >training...and he was more aware of what what going on around him! > Here's > >> the > >> >link: > >> > <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana Institute > Home > >> >Page</A> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 wow, that is interesting! Hmmm? Glad you got the fax Kathy Re: [ ] AIT >Dear Kathy, >I had AIT twice and so did Jen have Generic AIT twice. The disc is not the >same. I was extremely sound sick and that disc would have never did any >good.I was 38 years old when I had my first AIT and life was much better for >me. I spend so much of life sick. I had an audiogram by Henry to >determine exactly what my problem was. She told me at the bottom of what you >know as the sound that create music I had a peak that showed on the >audiogram chart. We were never able to get an audiogram on Jen. That is why > Henry did Generic AIT twice. Every time we tried an audiogram and we >tried many time on Jen ... Jen would shut off and became limp. The sound I >heard during the first days of AIT were sounds that were played to through >the kinetron machine. Parts were missing parts of the music ... very >specific parts the parts that made up the peak that showed on my audiogram. >Because each person hearing is different it would be impossible for a >mass-produced disc to correct a problem like mine. It might work to amuse, >calm, but not correct a hearing problem. > >We also own the Mozart's. They work great when she has a tantrum sometimes >... I like them too. >Oh, I got the Fax. Thank you so much. >Take Care and God Bless >Beverly Weakley >Mom of Jen ... age 11 1/2 years > Re: [ ] AIT >> >> >> >> >In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> >> >AndyCutler@... writes: >> >> > >> >> ><< << Please give more details on the testing for auditory >intregration >> and >> >> >your >> >> > comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of therapy. I was >> under >> >> > the impression that this was something very difficult to Dx. and >there >> >> were >> >> > no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate with >written >> >> > instructions. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of >> practitioners >> >> >across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard method using >the >> >> EERS >> >> >machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT and it >worked >> >> >wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He mastered >programs >> >> we'd >> >> >been struggling with for over a year -- all within three weeks of the >> >> >training...and he was more aware of what what going on around him! >> Here's >> >> the >> >> >link: >> >> > <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana Institute >> Home >> >> >Page</A> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2000 Report Share Posted August 6, 2000 I was told that if someone ... child or adult would have swelling in the brain this would cause the hearing to go off. An example would be the major stoke my Dad suffer. We did at AIT on him and he improved in communication drastically, was able to learn to wheel his wheelchair and feed himself. He could help us get them in out of his wheelchair. We took him shopping and out to dinner. He knew all his friends and he was very happy. His quantity of life was improved. Prior to the A.I.T. he only was in a Gerry chair. Two years after the AIT he contacted a virus and past a way, but because of AIT he knew his grandchildren and they enjoy being with their grandfather. Does measles cause swelling in the brain? You could ask someone on the list of " Auditory Integration Training Practitioners List " http://www.autism.com/ari/us.html They may ask you to have an audiogram run. Take Care and Best Wishes! Beverly Weakley Re: [ ] AIT > In a message dated 08/05/2000 1:50:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > kblanco@... writes: > > << Is this related? > Have heard that measles can make you have hearing loss, so with the combo of > chronic activation of measles from vaccines and mercury, this is why our > kids have auditory problems? > KAthy >> > > Kathy: > Yes, I've heard that too. I believe it...whether or not it's proven! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2000 Report Share Posted August 6, 2000 Cameron has had AIT with the Berard Method 2 years ago with little effect ( did stop some screaming but not all of it back then ). This Septmeber he is signed up for the Tomatis AIT ( even more $$$ ) . Any thoughts here ? Jeannie > >> > > >> >> Is this related? > >> >> Have heard that measles can make you have hearing loss, so with the > >combo > >> of > >> >> chronic activation of measles from vaccines and mercury, this is why > >our > >> >> kids have auditory problems? > >> >> KAthy > >> >> Re: [ ] AIT > >> >> > >> >> >In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >> >> >AndyCutler@a... writes: > >> >> > > >> >> ><< << Please give more details on the testing for auditory > >intregration > >> and > >> >> >your > >> >> > comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of therapy. I was > >> under > >> >> > the impression that this was something very difficult to Dx. and > >there > >> >> were > >> >> > no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate with > >written > >> >> > instructions. >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of > >> practitioners > >> >> >across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard method using > >the > >> >> EERS > >> >> >machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT and it > >worked > >> >> >wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He mastered > >programs > >> >> we'd > >> >> >been struggling with for over a year -- all within three weeks of the > >> >> >training...and he was more aware of what what going on around him! > >> Here's > >> >> the > >> >> >link: > >> >> > <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana Institute > >> Home > >> >> >Page</A> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2000 Report Share Posted August 6, 2000 What was Cameron behavior at the time of the audiogram? AIT is based on the reading record during the Audiogram. My AIT worked because #1 I had the correct problem that could be treated with AIT. #2 I was functioning so that an accurate reading could be taken during the audiogram. I heard of a rumor that there was a woman in Baltimore that could get a reading on any child. I was afraid to take Jen to her because, I know what happen the many times we attempt an audiogram on Jen ... She shut down from what her body perceived as an over stimulation. How can you get a reading on someone who is out cold sleeping? I was with Jen through each Audiogram and I do not believe it was at all possible to get any reading from someone who is sleeping. I am planning on trying to get an audiogram in the future and possibly A.I.T. again if it is found Jen needs the AIT. You might want to contact bel Stehli at georgianainstitute@... The web site is http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ bel and her husband are very kind and wonder people. They have a wealth of information. Take Care and Best Wishes, Beverly Weakley Mom of Jen ... age 11 1/2 years ... autistic girl. Re: [ ] AIT > > >> >> > > >> >> >In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight > Time, > > >> >> >AndyCutler@a... writes: > > >> >> > > > >> >> ><< << Please give more details on the testing for auditory > > >intregration > > >> and > > >> >> >your > > >> >> > comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of > therapy. I was > > >> under > > >> >> > the impression that this was something very difficult to > Dx. and > > >there > > >> >> were > > >> >> > no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate > with > > >written > > >> >> > instructions. >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of > > >> practitioners > > >> >> >across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard > method using > > >the > > >> >> EERS > > >> >> >machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT > and it > > >worked > > >> >> >wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He > mastered > > >programs > > >> >> we'd > > >> >> >been struggling with for over a year -- all within three > weeks of the > > >> >> >training...and he was more aware of what what going on > around him! > > >> Here's > > >> >> the > > >> >> >link: > > >> >> > <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana > Institute > > >> Home > > >> >> >Page</A> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2000 Report Share Posted August 6, 2000 Hear is a cheap idea that we did to try and prepare Jen for the audiograms and AIT twice. My husband has a pair of excellent headphones he bought in Germany while in the service and we used his stereo to play music extremely low to Jen though the headphones. I bought the cassette tape years ago at a Hallmark Card Store and it contains Personalized Name Tunes by Kidselebration. Each of five songs repeats her name throughout the lyrics. I guess she like to hear her name. This is not AIT, but it did help seem to help Jen. I have no idea where to find this cassette, but it is wonderful in calming Jens tantrums and it was a lifesaver for the preparation to audiograms and AIT. Beverly Weakley Mom of Jen ... autistic girl age 11 1/2 years Re: [ ] Re: AIT > << Cameron has had AIT with the Berard Method 2 years ago with little > effect ( did stop some screaming but not all of it back then ). This > Septmeber he is signed up for the Tomatis AIT ( even more $$$ ) . > Any thoughts here ? >> > > If something real similar didn't work before, try everything else cheap that > might help before repeating it - repeats do often work, but not always. An > initial failure does suggest trying other stuff if the practitioner and > method generally do OK with other people. > > Andy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2000 Report Share Posted August 6, 2000 In a message dated 08/06/2000 2:29:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bridalsh@... writes: << My husband has a pair of excellent headphones he bought in Germany while in the service and we used his stereo to play music extremely low to Jen though the headphones. I bought the cassette tape years ago at a Hallmark Card Store and it contains Personalized Name Tunes by Kidselebration. Each of five songs repeats her name throughout the lyrics. I guess she like to hear her name. This is not AIT, but it did help seem to help Jen. I have no idea where to find this cassette, but it is wonderful in calming Jens tantrums and it was a lifesaver for the preparation to audiograms and AIT. >> We had to work our son up to the two half-hour " listening sessions " as he would (at the time) not allow ANYTHING near his head! So, he started off by allowing us to put ONE of the headphone pads ON his ear for just a second...and we built from there. It definately helped in getting him ready for the real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2000 Report Share Posted August 6, 2000 << He has had an ABR for hearing where his hearing was said to be normal. >> ABR? Regular audiologists don't bother to check how the ears work together or how the brain interprets and integrates the signals the 2 ears send it - like ophthalmologists don't bother to check if the eyes work together or the brain uses the signals they send it properly. You need to check the religious orientation of all health care practitioners who do testing on your children - if they don't believe the brain has anything to do with how the senses are interpreted, they won't find anything wrong. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2000 Report Share Posted August 6, 2000 Thanks everyone for the information. I am really baffled by the conflicts here with all the differing protocols. This is as weird as whose CLO to use or whether to use CLO at all ! Here's the deal. Cameron was 18 months old when he literally stopped talking overnight ( after MMR ). But he had actualy had such a horrible reaction to the DTP months earlier that he was hospitalized with seizures etc . Between the two vaccinations he developed slowly but eye contact etc was pretty darn good and he spoke clearly in 2 words sentences until the MMR ( which of course we were told was 100% safe and that there was NOTHING to be worried about ). Not only did Cameron lose the words he had been speaking since 10 months of age but he started to use screaming instead and he screamed in a high pitch for hours every day.He screamed to communicate happiness, sadness and discomfort. It was an AWFUL period for me and my husband which lasted 2 years. He also got the typical horrid runny poops and all the joys that that brought. We took him to AIT using Carol Swick here in Houston. She was great ( a really nice lady )and his screaming almost completely stopped after the 10 days. But she then told me he would not ever be able to listen to music with earphones ! I mean...how practical is that ? So we hadn't returned. And we never received any CD's...we did the training at her " office " in her home back then. He has had an ABR for hearing where his hearing was said to be normal. So.....what to do !? Jeannie and issue....everyone says the other is > > > >> > > > > >> >> Is this related? > > > >> >> Have heard that measles can make you have hearing loss, so > > with the > > > >combo > > > >> of > > > >> >> chronic activation of measles from vaccines and mercury, this > > is why > > > >our > > > >> >> kids have auditory problems? > > > >> >> KAthy > > > >> >> Re: [ ] AIT > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >In a message dated 08/05/2000 12:03:01 PM Eastern Daylight > > Time, > > > >> >> >AndyCutler@a... writes: > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> ><< << Please give more details on the testing for auditory > > > >intregration > > > >> and > > > >> >> >your > > > >> >> > comment that it can be corrected with a few weeks of > > therapy. I was > > > >> under > > > >> >> > the impression that this was something very difficult to > > Dx. and > > > >there > > > >> >> were > > > >> >> > no real effective therapies outside learning to compensate > > with > > > >written > > > >> >> > instructions. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >Here's a great link for AIT -- they will give you a list of > > > >> practitioners > > > >> >> >across the country. Personally, I recommend the Berard > > method using > > > >the > > > >> >> EERS > > > >> >> >machine. I went to Sally Brockett at IDEA in N HAVEN, CT > > and it > > > >worked > > > >> >> >wonders for my sound hyper and hyposensitive son!!! He > > mastered > > > >programs > > > >> >> we'd > > > >> >> >been struggling with for over a year -- all within three > > weeks of the > > > >> >> >training...and he was more aware of what what going on > > around him! > > > >> Here's > > > >> >> the > > > >> >> >link: > > > >> >> > <A HREF= " http://www.georgianainstitute.org/ " >The Georgiana > > Institute > > > >> Home > > > >> >> >Page</A> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2000 Report Share Posted August 8, 2000 Andy, Its my understanding that ABR testing incorporates the brains response. My son's testing demonstrated a latency in wave 5 indicative of an auditory processing disorder. But they have no norm references for children under 5 years of age, so no one can say for certain the significance of this finding. Lyn Re: [ ] Re: AIT > << He has had an ABR for hearing where his hearing was said to be normal. >> > > ABR? > > Regular audiologists don't bother to check how the ears work together or how > the brain interprets and integrates the signals the 2 ears send it - like > ophthalmologists don't bother to check if the eyes work together or the brain > uses the signals they send it properly. > > You need to check the religious orientation of all health care practitioners > who do testing on your children - if they don't believe the brain has > anything to do with how the senses are interpreted, they won't find anything > wrong. > > Andy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2000 Report Share Posted August 8, 2000 In a message dated 8/5/00 2:28:07 PM Central Daylight Time, damiani@... writes: << The " easy listening " type music, including SAMONAS, does nothing to retrain the brain and the ears for what to tune out and what not to tune out. >> Actually, we found Samonas to be extremely helpful with dampening my son's overall hypersensativities and boosting auditory processing. I credit it most with allowing my son to be able to be in a crowd and not shut down. The problem we had with that is that Samonas tends to focus mainly on the high-end frequencies so while it took care of those problems, he was left with some low-end difficulties. We're now just starting our second round of The Listening Program to address those remaining issues. The first round brought amazing progress with auditory processing speed, focus and a big conversational language boost but still left some hypersensativities. Others I know who are doing TLP have seen progress each time it is done so we're hoping that this round will reduce more sensativities. I do know that allergies and metals, and probably anything that messes with your immune system or makes you more sensative, can mess with your auditory system. I used to be extremely hyperaccousic but it decreased with allergy and metals treatment. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 In a message dated 08/08/2000 6:12:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Nomoremetals@... writes: << I used to be extremely hyperaccousic but it decreased with allergy and metals treatment. Gaylen >> Would it also clear up an accute case of tinnitus of over 5 years duration? I would do anything for " peace of mind " ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 I have tinnitus, and I did the AIT along with my son when he was treated just to see if it would help me. (They offered to do a second family member for half price.) It did not help. But I feel my hearing is a bit better. Don fullarmor@... wrote: > In a message dated 08/08/2000 6:12:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Nomoremetals@... writes: > > << I used to be extremely hyperaccousic but it decreased with allergy > and metals treatment. > Gaylen > >> > > Would it also clear up an accute case of tinnitus of over 5 years duration? > I would do anything for " peace of mind " ! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 Oh...no, I was talking more along the lines of metals chelation helping with tinnitus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 Kaye- Are you familiar with AIT (Auditory Integration Training) using the Audiokinatron from France? The books " The Sound of a Miricle " and Dancing in the Rain explain the protocol. Sound is modulated in a way that reduces the childrens sensitive hearing. It is like aerobics for the ears. It is 30 minutes of listening through head phones twice a day for 10 days. I have seen wonderful results if the children's food sensitivties and central nervous ssytems are stabilized before therapy. pat O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 I haven't heard of it, but I sure would like to know more. Sound sensetivity is Logan's biggest problem, and I really believe he would be able to start talking if this could be worked on. I just haven't found anyone around here that knows how to help him in that area. If you could give me more info. on this, I would REALLY appreciate it. Thanks, Kaye > Kaye- Are you familiar with AIT (Auditory Integration Training) using > the Audiokinatron from France? The books " The Sound of a Miricle " and > Dancing in the Rain explain the protocol. Sound is modulated in a way that > reduces the childrens sensitive hearing. It is like aerobics for the ears. > It is 30 minutes of listening through head phones twice a day for 10 days. I > have seen wonderful results if the children's food sensitivties and central > nervous ssytems are stabilized before therapy. > pat O. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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