Re: Dr. Hamer's opinion and answer to Moe

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In a message dated 1/24/04 1:10:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

redactie@... writes:

> RFA f.i. is the newest form of surgery which can cure people

> from cancer

Kees...what is this??? I would like very much to know more.

Thanks,

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In a message dated 1/24/04 1:10:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

redactie@... writes:

> RFA f.i. is the newest form of surgery which can cure people

> from cancer

Kees...what is this??? I would like very much to know more.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Kees,

That was a beautiful reply, and your English is quite satisfactory,

imo. As for how to heal using Hamer's approach, the tools are

readily available, from numerous sources, I could start ticking them

off one after another starting with Homeopathy and some of the

vibrational products like DNR's products (for more instantaneous

relief). To say that homeopathy doesn't give instant results isn't

accurate, and I'll give you an example.

Last April my baby died at birth, and my grief was unbearable. To

say that I was overcome is understatement. Non-functional is closer

to the truth. For days and weeks, each moment was a challenge for

me, not just personally, but also functioning as a mother of 5 other

children, a wife, a wholistic practitioner, and more hats than most

people dare to wear. But I did it. Here's how.

I listened and responded to my emotions carefully and patiently.

Out of the blue, grief would sweep through me, and I would walk into

my office, sit quietly and take a few drops of my 10M remedies for

grief. And then I would wait. After a few minutes, I'd be ready to

great the next challenge. Each day, I started with my Stress drops

from DNR, which I say can cure anything, just about. The amount of

stress that I was dealing with then would have crushed any ordinary

person. But I accepted it, as part of my path and moved through

it. Some good days, some not so good days. But I not only survived

it, I learned some very powerful truths about living through pain,

loss, stress, and more.

So, yes, I do believe that these therapies work. Because they are a

staple of my everyday life. What is interesting, in our western

culture, is that we think that healing is an event, and not a choice

or journey. And in fact, much of what we heal comes to us from

years of abuse and many lifetimes of genetic emotional layers. We

are ignorant if we think that we enter the world a blank sheet to be

written on.

One child of mine, the 6 year old, was born screaming and " pissed

off " . She continues to have bladder challenges, as we are working

with the emotional context that she was born with. How does this

happen? That's one of the very many mysteries of life. But we

have choices and options, and when we're talking about healing that

will mean peeling off layers, as you say, and will take time, as you

say, but we only have the NOW to work within, and relief from our

journey means that we become conscious of all our choices.

I don't know one cancer patient, who's life is not more satisfying

since his discover of the process that has been working inside of

him for years. When my mother died after her 7 years of abuse from

cancer therapies, I was not saddened so much at her loss of life, as

I was angered at the system that abused her. Complicate those

emotions with the realization that she " BECAME " a better person,

more real, and more authentic, and more honest with herself and the

people around her, and my lasting response to her disease process

has been thankfulness and gratitude. She's shown me a better way,

and you don't have to get cancer to get there.

What we're calling cancer isn't really, you and I know that, Kees.

This is why it's wrong for us to think that we can just treat a body

that's void of emotions. Nay, the emotions only manifest in the

body. And sometimes, you have to MAKE new emotions. That's the

value of homeopathy when offered properly. Unfortunately, people go

get a 30C remedy and think they've got the answer. And while it

works in many uses, it may reveal another layer that wasn't expected

to be uncovered.

And until we resolve root issues, called genetic miasms, then we're

just playing games emotionally.

I think Dr. Hamer's research is vitally important for people to

understand that the emotions that we are feeling are creating a

physical response in the brain. Not only that, we can have

resolution for emotions that are seemingly out of control. But that

requires choice and a deep honest that few can conjure without the

crisis as motivation.

The feelings of being overwhelmed are just one of the many things

that homeopathy is particularly successful in resolving. For

others, like you and me, Kees, we have an indominitable will and

spirit for living. Some people just don't have that way about them,

and require more support and options.

As strong as I may appear, or as many mountains I have climbed,

Kees, this warrior is still a child, and needs to find a place to

hide and lick wounds and regroup, just like every other being with

flesh and blood. I have to be renewed daily, and use the many tools

that are available to me, to do this. Dying of something as petty

and small as cancer is just not in my thought field. My giants are

larger to me, and slaying them requires a different approach that

requires bringing my spirit under control. For the cancer patient,

who is told they are going to die (creating another lesion in the

brain, according to Hamer), who is unaware of the process of healing

through lack of knowledge, I think that's what this list serves best

to do..... INFORM.

We would be remiss not to discuss important emerging therapies,

Hamer, GeoTran, BodyTalk, and others that are being utilized with

great results. My latest challenge is undertaking Tai Chi and Chi

Gung and learning how to use movement to heal. I'm finding that

there are people who on the edge of death and unable even to stand

unassisted have returned to the land of the living using these

therapies.

This list should be a clearing house of SUCCESS stories and

testimonials, but yet out of 700 people on this list, there's only

less than a dozen who have survived? I read more about people dying

here, than ones who are succeeding. WHY?

In part, I think that nutrition is NOT for everyone, and consitutes

perhaps about 1/6 of the human need, if that, if you can survive on

sunlight alone! Fasting and cleansing is vitally more important

that supplements, imo.

Thank you for your gentleness and wisdom, Kees. You are an

important contributor to this list. Thank you for taking the time

to respond to my email.

Warmest regards,

Moe

> > Isn't this a bit too rigorous? Many many people cure with help

of surgery

> > and radiation. The most though who take additionel good food, a

relaxed

> > lifestyle and certain extra vitamins etc. The information on

the website

> > new medicin Moe is interesting but in my eyes too onesided.

> >

> > Gr. kees

> >

[Guest guest]

Kees,

That was a beautiful reply, and your English is quite satisfactory,

imo. As for how to heal using Hamer's approach, the tools are

readily available, from numerous sources, I could start ticking them

off one after another starting with Homeopathy and some of the

vibrational products like DNR's products (for more instantaneous

relief). To say that homeopathy doesn't give instant results isn't

accurate, and I'll give you an example.

Last April my baby died at birth, and my grief was unbearable. To

say that I was overcome is understatement. Non-functional is closer

to the truth. For days and weeks, each moment was a challenge for

me, not just personally, but also functioning as a mother of 5 other

children, a wife, a wholistic practitioner, and more hats than most

people dare to wear. But I did it. Here's how.

I listened and responded to my emotions carefully and patiently.

Out of the blue, grief would sweep through me, and I would walk into

my office, sit quietly and take a few drops of my 10M remedies for

grief. And then I would wait. After a few minutes, I'd be ready to

great the next challenge. Each day, I started with my Stress drops

from DNR, which I say can cure anything, just about. The amount of

stress that I was dealing with then would have crushed any ordinary

person. But I accepted it, as part of my path and moved through

it. Some good days, some not so good days. But I not only survived

it, I learned some very powerful truths about living through pain,

loss, stress, and more.

So, yes, I do believe that these therapies work. Because they are a

staple of my everyday life. What is interesting, in our western

culture, is that we think that healing is an event, and not a choice

or journey. And in fact, much of what we heal comes to us from

years of abuse and many lifetimes of genetic emotional layers. We

are ignorant if we think that we enter the world a blank sheet to be

written on.

One child of mine, the 6 year old, was born screaming and " pissed

off " . She continues to have bladder challenges, as we are working

with the emotional context that she was born with. How does this

happen? That's one of the very many mysteries of life. But we

have choices and options, and when we're talking about healing that

will mean peeling off layers, as you say, and will take time, as you

say, but we only have the NOW to work within, and relief from our

journey means that we become conscious of all our choices.

I don't know one cancer patient, who's life is not more satisfying

since his discover of the process that has been working inside of

him for years. When my mother died after her 7 years of abuse from

cancer therapies, I was not saddened so much at her loss of life, as

I was angered at the system that abused her. Complicate those

emotions with the realization that she " BECAME " a better person,

more real, and more authentic, and more honest with herself and the

people around her, and my lasting response to her disease process

has been thankfulness and gratitude. She's shown me a better way,

and you don't have to get cancer to get there.

What we're calling cancer isn't really, you and I know that, Kees.

This is why it's wrong for us to think that we can just treat a body

that's void of emotions. Nay, the emotions only manifest in the

body. And sometimes, you have to MAKE new emotions. That's the

value of homeopathy when offered properly. Unfortunately, people go

get a 30C remedy and think they've got the answer. And while it

works in many uses, it may reveal another layer that wasn't expected

to be uncovered.

And until we resolve root issues, called genetic miasms, then we're

just playing games emotionally.

I think Dr. Hamer's research is vitally important for people to

understand that the emotions that we are feeling are creating a

physical response in the brain. Not only that, we can have

resolution for emotions that are seemingly out of control. But that

requires choice and a deep honest that few can conjure without the

crisis as motivation.

The feelings of being overwhelmed are just one of the many things

that homeopathy is particularly successful in resolving. For

others, like you and me, Kees, we have an indominitable will and

spirit for living. Some people just don't have that way about them,

and require more support and options.

As strong as I may appear, or as many mountains I have climbed,

Kees, this warrior is still a child, and needs to find a place to

hide and lick wounds and regroup, just like every other being with

flesh and blood. I have to be renewed daily, and use the many tools

that are available to me, to do this. Dying of something as petty

and small as cancer is just not in my thought field. My giants are

larger to me, and slaying them requires a different approach that

requires bringing my spirit under control. For the cancer patient,

who is told they are going to die (creating another lesion in the

brain, according to Hamer), who is unaware of the process of healing

through lack of knowledge, I think that's what this list serves best

to do..... INFORM.

We would be remiss not to discuss important emerging therapies,

Hamer, GeoTran, BodyTalk, and others that are being utilized with

great results. My latest challenge is undertaking Tai Chi and Chi

Gung and learning how to use movement to heal. I'm finding that

there are people who on the edge of death and unable even to stand

unassisted have returned to the land of the living using these

therapies.

This list should be a clearing house of SUCCESS stories and

testimonials, but yet out of 700 people on this list, there's only

less than a dozen who have survived? I read more about people dying

here, than ones who are succeeding. WHY?

In part, I think that nutrition is NOT for everyone, and consitutes

perhaps about 1/6 of the human need, if that, if you can survive on

sunlight alone! Fasting and cleansing is vitally more important

that supplements, imo.

Thank you for your gentleness and wisdom, Kees. You are an

important contributor to this list. Thank you for taking the time

to respond to my email.

Warmest regards,

Moe

> > Isn't this a bit too rigorous? Many many people cure with help

of surgery

> > and radiation. The most though who take additionel good food, a

relaxed

> > lifestyle and certain extra vitamins etc. The information on

the website

> > new medicin Moe is interesting but in my eyes too onesided.

> >

> > Gr. kees

> >