Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Hello Kees and those interested in the question you raise about potential problems with the ingestion of peanuts and peanut butter. Indeed, i have heard other reliable sources issue cautions about eating peanuts or peanut products. Not sure why but would like to know. Also, the latest, greatest, and most talked about breakthrough in health products is Microhydrin, allegedly the most powerful antioxidant now known to man and, developed by the controversial genius, Flannagan. I have seen strong supporters and detractors, but would like to know if anyone has reliable, definitive, data and/or research on the validity and effectiveness of this product? thanks in advance, Kees, or anyone else with helpful information in this area... :-) richard why peanuts and peanutbutter recommended? > An impressing lot of ideas for good food. But why to recommend peanuts and > peanutbutter? In the Houtsmullerdiet is a peanut the only nut which isn't > allowed. All other nuts are OK, but not peanutbutter or peanutbuttersauce > etc. maybe you know why and can explain that in good english? I > could in Dutch but feel it hard to translate it in good english.? > > Gr. Kees Braam > webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl > > > In some health food stores one can grind ones own peanut butter. Use > macadamia > > nuts (with B17) instead of peanuts to make a macadamia nut butter that > contains B17. > > Steamed vegetables are with peanut and garlic sauce or soy sauce are OK. > > Tofu and tempeh are OK and can be fried in olive oil. > > I would use Flax oil as a butter substiute. > > . > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Dear , Dr. Houtsmuller writes in his books that peanuts contain 'arachidonzuur' free translation: archidon acid. And that seems to support the development of cancercells. But I'm not a medical specialist and my english is in this very poor, so hopefully or others know better to describe why peanuts and peanutbutter is n't so well for a cancerpatient. An asnwer for your other question I don't have. I never heard of this, so I'm interested too in an answer from someone else. Gr. Kees Braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl why peanuts and peanutbutter recommended? > > > > An impressing lot of ideas for good food. But why to recommend peanuts and > > peanutbutter? In the Houtsmullerdiet is a peanut the only nut which isn't > > allowed. All other nuts are OK, but not peanutbutter or peanutbuttersauce > > etc. maybe you know why and can explain that in good english? I > > could in Dutch but feel it hard to translate it in good english.? > > > > Gr. Kees Braam > > webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl > > > > > In some health food stores one can grind ones own peanut butter. Use > > macadamia > > > nuts (with B17) instead of peanuts to make a macadamia nut butter that > > contains B17. > > > Steamed vegetables are with peanut and garlic sauce or soy sauce are OK. > > > Tofu and tempeh are OK and can be fried in olive oil. > > > I would use Flax oil as a butter substiute. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to > cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Thanks for your reply, Kees. And i too hope to see more information from others on peanuts and microhydrin... richard why peanuts and peanutbutter recommended? > > > > > > > An impressing lot of ideas for good food. But why to recommend peanuts > and > > > peanutbutter? In the Houtsmullerdiet is a peanut the only nut which > isn't > > > allowed. All other nuts are OK, but not peanutbutter or > peanutbuttersauce > > > etc. maybe you know why and can explain that in good english? I > > > could in Dutch but feel it hard to translate it in good english.? > > > > > > Gr. Kees Braam > > > webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl > > > > > > > In some health food stores one can grind ones own peanut butter. > Use > > > macadamia > > > > nuts (with B17) instead of peanuts to make a macadamia nut butter that > > > contains B17. > > > > Steamed vegetables are with peanut and garlic sauce or soy sauce are > OK. > > > > Tofu and tempeh are OK and can be fried in olive oil. > > > > I would use Flax oil as a butter substiute. > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links > there. Unsubscribe by sending email to > > cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting > http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 In a message dated 10/30/01 1:10:07 PM, rnworks@... writes: >Thanks for your reply, Kees. And i too hope to see >more information from others on peanuts and microhydrin... richard I've heard that peanuts have a mold or bacteria in them causes problems to the immune system. But this is all the info I have on it. As for microhydrin, I've been to a couple of Flanigans lectures and tried it. It didn't seem to do anything for me. What it's supposed to do ( in laymens terms) is to make your cells more permiable to allow waste products to get out and nutrients to get in easier. Flannigans lectures where mostly hype, ( the sells pitch). One of the questions I asked him was how long you have to take this product. His answer was 'indefinitely " . He sighted the case of his wife. He said that as long as she was taking microhydrin here fibro, was under control and she could function normally. But if she stopped taking it for more than a couple of days, her symptoms would return. I think that microhydrin is like all the other MLM products, it will help you greatly, If your problem is what the product puts out. If not it's just a waste of money. Klaus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 Hi cures for cancer, There has also been an issue of possible aflatoxin mold on peanuts.. I remember reading an organic farm source (I think it was when it was Ford and Arrowhead Mills) talk about how they were careful to avoid peanuts that could be so contaminated) some years ago.. So at the very least, if peanut butter is consumed, get a highly reputable natural organic source My personal preference is almond butter... yummmm... also have tried filbert, cashew and also really like sesame tahini (ok that is not a nut butter..) There is another issue with roasted vs. unroasted butters.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ---------------------------------------------------------------- >Dear , Dr. Houtsmuller writes in his books that peanuts contain >'arachidonzuur' free translation: archidon acid. And that seems to support >the development of cancercells. But I'm not a medical specialist and my >english is in this very poor, so hopefully or others know better >todescribe why peanuts and peanutbutter is n't so well for a cancerpatient. > >An asnwer for your other question I don't have. I never heard of this, so >I'm interested too in an answer from someone else. > >Gr. Kees Braam >webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Schmuel@... Messianic_Apologetic-subscribe Messianic_Apologetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 cures for cancer From: Skibelt@... Date sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:55:35 EST Send reply to: cures for cancer Subject: Re: why peanuts and peanutbutter recommended? > I've heard that peanuts have a mold or bacteria in them causes problems to > the immune system. > As for microhydrin, I've been to a couple of Flanigans lectures and tried > it. It didn't seem to do anything for me. What it's supposed to do ( in > laymens terms) is to make your cells more permiable to allow waste > products to get out and nutrients to get in easier. Hi, I have heard of the moulds that can grow on peanuts. A good quality of fresh peanuts should solve that problem. I know of no particular immune benefits of peanuts, but macadamia nuts contain B17, provided they are not roasted. As for cell permeability, DMSO Dimethyl Sulfoxide, mentioned in Protocol 1 modifies cell permeability and stops tumor cell division, it causes G1 arrest in mitosis cycle in several tumor cell lines including lymphoma. References provided previously. moonbeam Flannigans lectures > where mostly hype, ( the sells pitch). One of the questions I asked him > was how long you have to take this product. His answer was > 'indefinitely " . He sighted the case of his wife. He said that as long as > she was taking microhydrin here fibro, was under control and she could > function normally. But if she stopped taking it for more than a couple of > days, her symptoms would return. > > I think that microhydrin is like all the other MLM products, it will help > you greatly, If your problem is what the product puts out. If not it's > just a waste of money. > > Klaus > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. > Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by > visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Hi Schmuel, Yes, aflotoxins, potent carcinogens, are a real concern when the storage of nuts and grains has been improper from high humidity, moisture, and resultant molds. Also, thank you for the list of alternative nut butters, and yes, i think i will switch to raw almond butter. Wonder if i can just do it up in the Vita-mix and keep it in the fridge... richard Re: why peanuts and peanutbutter recommended? > Hi cures for cancer, > > There has also been an issue of possible aflatoxin mold on peanuts.. > > I remember reading an organic farm source (I think it was when it was > Ford and Arrowhead Mills) talk about how they were careful to avoid peanuts > that could be so contaminated) some years ago.. > > So at the very least, if peanut butter is consumed, get a highly reputable > natural organic source > > My personal preference is almond butter... yummmm... also have tried > filbert, cashew and also really like sesame tahini (ok that is not a nut > butter..) > > There is another issue with roasted vs. unroasted butters.. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ---------------------------------------------- ------------------ > > >Dear , Dr. Houtsmuller writes in his books that peanuts contain > >'arachidonzuur' free translation: archidon acid. And that seems to support > >the development of cancercells. But I'm not a medical specialist and my > >english is in this very poor, so hopefully or others know better > >todescribe why peanuts and peanutbutter is n't so well for a cancerpatient. > > > >An asnwer for your other question I don't have. I never heard of this, so > >I'm interested too in an answer from someone else. > > > >Gr. Kees Braam > >webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl > > Schmuel@... > > Messianic_Apologetic-subscribe > Messianic_Apologetic > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Hi Klaus, Yes, i also have misgivings about MLM's; but, if Microhydrin is the powerful antioxidant and free radical scavenger that it has been claimed to be i think i need to get some somehow. And as Moonbeam said, it would be good to have some clinical studies, or at least some convincing evidence to support the impressive conceptual presentations from Flanagan and other exponents of the product... take care, Klaus... richard Re: why peanuts and peanutbutter recommended? > > In a message dated 10/30/01 1:10:07 PM, rnworks@... writes: > > >Thanks for your reply, Kees. And i too hope to see > >more information from others on peanuts and microhydrin... richard > > I've heard that peanuts have a mold or bacteria in them causes problems to > the immune system. But this is all the info I have on it. > > As for microhydrin, I've been to a couple of Flanigans lectures and tried it. > It didn't seem to do anything for me. What it's supposed to do ( in > laymens terms) is to make your cells more permiable to allow waste products > to get out and nutrients to get in easier. Flannigans lectures where mostly > hype, ( the sells pitch). One of the questions I asked him was how long you > have to take this product. His answer was 'indefinitely " . He sighted the > case of his wife. He said that as long as she was taking microhydrin here > fibro, was under control and she could function normally. But if she stopped > taking it for more than a couple of days, her symptoms would return. > > I think that microhydrin is like all the other MLM products, it will help > you greatly, If your problem is what the product puts out. If not it's just > a waste of money. > > Klaus > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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