Re: A New therapy

April 22, 2001

From: " Joe Bavaro " <bavco@...>

Date sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:59:48 -0400

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: A New therapy

> I stumbled on this particular therapy by reading an article in the Boston

> Herald.

>

> The web site is www.leetra.org

Hi,

I am willing to accept that ethanol injected into a tumor will kill the

tumor without too many side effects. That is not the point at all though.

The point is this. If I go to a chinese herbalist for cancer he or she will

give me some type of mushroom, some herbs like Astragalus, maybe some shark fin

or Tortoise shell (for brain cancers).

If I go to a naturopath he or she will give me some beta glucan to trigger

macrophage activation, some vitamins and minerals like L-selomethionine,

Vitamin C, cold pressed flax oil, vitamin E, etc.

If I go to a doctor he or she will recommend the use of patented drugs that

can only be given by a doctor, they will also recommend treatment that takes

place in a hospital. They might give some vitamins as well, but basically the

main part of therapy will be patented drugs made by one of the big

pharmaceutical companies usually combined with hospital based radiotherapy.

Just as carpenters dont lay bricks, so we should never expect most doctors

to use non patented drugs, like ethanol or hydrogen peroxide or beta glucan.

Doctors might be willing to use laser therapy as only they will be allowed

to use the lasers, so they keep the medical profits within the closed medical

system.

Doctors are part of the hospital system a big dollar industry, therapies

which threaten profits will always be overlooked and discredited by such a

system. It is economic rationality. Profits must always be placed ahead of

patient well being for economic reasons. Yet there is no need to advertise this

fact, for obvious reasons.

moonbeam

April 22, 2001

Can anyone comment on whether they feel this is a viable therapy?

Thanks,

Mel

A New therapy

>

> > I stumbled on this particular therapy by reading an article in the

Boston

> > Herald.

> >

> > The web site is www.leetra.org

>

> Hi,

> I am willing to accept that ethanol injected into a tumor will

kill the

> tumor without too many side effects. That is not the point at all though.

> The point is this. If I go to a chinese herbalist for cancer he or she

will

> give me some type of mushroom, some herbs like Astragalus, maybe some

shark fin

> or Tortoise shell (for brain cancers).

> If I go to a naturopath he or she will give me some beta glucan to

trigger

> macrophage activation, some vitamins and minerals like L-selomethionine,

> Vitamin C, cold pressed flax oil, vitamin E, etc.

> If I go to a doctor he or she will recommend the use of patented drugs

that

> can only be given by a doctor, they will also recommend treatment that

takes

> place in a hospital. They might give some vitamins as well, but basically

the

> main part of therapy will be patented drugs made by one of the big

> pharmaceutical companies usually combined with hospital based

radiotherapy.

>

> Just as carpenters dont lay bricks, so we should never expect most

doctors

> to use non patented drugs, like ethanol or hydrogen peroxide or beta

glucan.

>

> Doctors might be willing to use laser therapy as only they will be

allowed

> to use the lasers, so they keep the medical profits within the closed

medical

> system.

> Doctors are part of the hospital system a big dollar industry,

therapies

> which threaten profits will always be overlooked and discredited by such a

> system. It is economic rationality. Profits must always be placed ahead of

> patient well being for economic reasons. Yet there is no need to advertise

this

> fact, for obvious reasons.

>

> moonbeam

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

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>

April 22, 2001

what is this ETHUNOL injected into the cancer tumor>?? tell me more

please........remeber me ....with the advanced liver cancer and now they

say i am on borrowed time.......please write back....pat.

April 23, 2001

Pat:

Ethanol is nothing more than alcohol, check the web site, and ask

Trabucco if can assist you.

Joe Bavaro

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> From: Patti4358@...

> cures for cancer

> Subject: Re: A New therapy

> Date: Monday, April 23, 2001 2:28 AM

>

> what is this ETHUNOL injected into the cancer tumor>?? tell me more

> please........remeber me ....with the advanced liver cancer and now

they

> say i am on borrowed time.......please write back....pat.

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

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>

April 23, 2001

--- Patti4358@... wrote:

> what is this ETHUNOL injected into the cancer

> tumor>?? tell me more

> please........remeber me ....with the advanced

> liver cancer and now they

> say i am on borrowed time.......please write

> back....pat.

>

Pat

Perhaps you can get someone at home to help you.

The most important things about Bavaro's lengthy post

are the links. And this is said not to take anything

away from the man's post which is very

touching. Read them and print them out.

Take them with you or start calling doctors who would

be willing to try this procedure. You're right in that

it does seem promising. Why haven't you heard of it

before? There's no big money to be made to be made

from it for the pharmaceutical companies. You may

have to leave the country to get someone to try the

procedure. But the ethanol,

(not ethunol) can devascularize the tumor and cause it

to starve and die. I'll try to post more links for you

later.

You are truly on to something! Meanwhile, try the

flax oil and cottage cheese regimen which should at

least buy you some time. Moonbeam's suggestions are

good and can help restore some of your immune system

function. Do what you can and keep posting here on

your progress. Good luck!

__________________________________________________

April 23, 2001

Mel,

The use of alcohol is a little too naive and simplistic. I have come

across one case where a cancer went into remission when the lady drank

alcohol and the cancer returned when she went on the wagon. I know of

another where a 24/7 alcoholic got NSC carcinoma of the lung and very

successfully treated it for two years with a Cone-type therapy while never

giving up the booze, cigarettes, and fried catfish. But I have come across

too many alcoholics with cancer of the esophagus, pancreas, colon, and lungs

(goes with the smoking).

There is a mental and spiritual component to effectively treating

cancer. Pickling oneself in alcohol is hardly conducive to achieving this,

nor is it the best way to remember to take all other meds and nutrients in a

timely manner.

[Now the chemistry: I would say that the Leetra people are almost

certainly wrong about the alcohol dehydrogenase. Any theoretical activity

is more likely from the acetaldehyde which will complex with the thiazole

cofactor of thiamin. From there it depends on the enzyme envolved. The

decarboxylase returns free acetaldehyde. Pyruvate decarboxylase,

ferricyanide, or indophenol yield the acetyl derivative.

So now there is a crossroads that would demand some basic research. If

alcohol is useful it would be important to know which enzyme system to steer

it through. Anything else would be a crapshoot when life is at its most

precious.]

Re: A New therapy

> Can anyone comment on whether they feel this is a viable therapy?

>

> Thanks,

> Mel

April 23, 2001

> > From: Patti4358@...

> > cures for cancer

> > Subject: Re: A New therapy

> > Date: Monday, April 23, 2001 2:28 AM

> >

> > what is this ETHUNOL injected into the cancer tumor>?? tell me more

> > please........remeber me ....with the advanced liver cancer and now

> they

> > say i am on borrowed time.......please write back....pat.

Hi,

Hopefully you are taking some of the things I mentioned in Protocol 1 to

boost the immune system. Here is some clinical trials on ethanol injected into

tumors, it seemed to work. Article 2 on liver cancer and ethanol.

Source for medline articles.............

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=Limits & DB=PubMed

moonbeam

1: Gan To Kagaku Ryoho 1999 Oct;26(12):1865-8

Intratumoral ethanol injection therapy using endoscopic video information

system

[Article in Japanese]

Sawa T, Ikoma T, Yoshida T, Kawada M, Azuma K, Murakawa

S, Tomita R.

Division of Respiratory Medicine, Gifu Municipal Hospital, Japan.

Bronchoscopic ethanol injection (BEI) therapy for endobronchial malignant tumor

is thought to be an effective modality for airway dilatation and hemostasis

without expensive special equipment. But if ethanol leaks into the airway, it

causes severe coughing and erosion of bronchial wall. Using endoscopic video

information system (EVIS), an assistant operator can observe an ethanol leak

and inject an adequate volume. To evaluate the efficacy and adverse effect of

BEI therapy, we treated 8 patients with endobronchial malignant tumor using

EVIS. Under local anesthesia, a video-bronchoscope (Olympus BF200 or BF 1T200)

was inserted orally, a transbronchial aspiration cytology (TBAC) needle was

inserted via the biopsy channel, and injections of 0.2 ml of 99% ethanol into

the tumor were repeated. After the tumor degenerated to necrotic tissue, it was

removed with a biopsy forceps, and this maneuver was repeated for the existing

fresh lesion. The total volume of injected ethanol was 4.5 + 1.6 ml (mean +

SD). Airway obstruction and atelectasis were relieved in 4 cases, and

hemostasis was obtained in 2 cases. In 2 cases, airway dilatation and

hemostasis were not obtained. BEI was more effective in the patients with

polypoid or nodular tumor protruding into the airway lumen. As for adverse

effects, ethanol leaks caused a severe cough in 2 cases, although they were

tolerable and treatment could be continued. BEI therapy using EVIS was thought

to be useful to control airway obstruction by endobronchial polypoid tumor with

good cost-effectiveness and fewer adverse effects.

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1: Radiol Med (Torino) 1998 Sep;96(3):238-42

Ultrasonography-guided percutaneous ethanol

injection in large an/or multiple liver metastasis

[Article in Italian]

Giorgio A, Tarantino L, Mariniello N, De Stefano G, Perrotta A,

Aloisio V, Del Viscovo L, Alaia A.

Servizio di Ecografia ed Ecointerventistica, Ospedale D.

Cotugno,

Napoli. assanui@...

INTRODUCTION: Percutaneous ethanol injection (PEI) under sonographic guidance

is an effective therapy for hepatocellular carcinoma on cirrhosis, while less

favorable results have been reported for liver metastases. Surgery and/or other

new treatments (i.e., interstitial thermotherapy) are indicated only for small

metastases (< 3 cm) and surgeons no longer perform the palliative debulking of

neoplastic masses. PATIENTS AND METHODS: From March, 1994, to December, 1997,

thirty-three patients with 62 large (> 3.5 cm) and/or multiple liver

metastases, who were not eligible for surgery nor thermotherapy, were treated

with one-shot PEI under general anesthesia. The diameter of the nodules ranged

35-92 mm (mean: 39); the lesions were single in 15 patients and localized in

both the right and the left lobe in 19 patients. 25-110 ml ethanol were

injected per session. Post-treatment results were assessed with dynamic or dual-

phase spiral CT; therapeutic success was defined as the absence of hyperdense

lesion areas. RESULTS: Complete necrosis of the metastases was shown in 10

patients (30.3%). Necrosis rate ranged 70-90% in 21 patients (64%) and was 50%

in 2 patients (5.7%). Survival rates were 94%, 80%, 80% and 44% at 12, 24, 36

and 44 months, respectively. No major complications were observed. Seeding of

neoplastic cells along the needle tract has been never observed to date.

DISCUSSION: Metastasis diameter and number impact on long-term survival. PEI

under general anesthesia allows to treat also the patients who are not eligible

for other treatments and to inject large amounts of ethanol per session in

different tumor areas because metastases usually set on in an otherwise healthy

liver. CONCLUSIONS: One-shot PEI can cause major, even complete, tumor necrosis

in large and multiple liver metastases. The absence of any important

complications and the survival rates in our series seem to indicate that one-

shot PEI is effective for tumor debulking in patients not eligible for surgery

and other alternative treatments.

Publication Types:

Clinical trial

PMID: 9850718 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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1: J Hepatol 1999 Oct;31(4):747-50

Correction of both prothrombin time and primary

haemostasis by recombinant factor VII during

therapeutic alcohol injection of hepatocellular

cancer in liver cirrhosis.

Papatheodoridis GV, Chung S, Keshav S, Pasi J, Burroughs

AK.

Liver Transplantation & Hepatobiliary Medicine, Royal Free

Hospital,

London, UK.

We evaluated the efficacy of recombinant factor VII to correct impaired

haemostasis in a patient with liver cirrhosis requiring an invasive procedure.

A test intravenous bolus of 80 microg/kg of recombinant factor VII was given to

a Jehovah's Witness, with a solitary 4.4-cm hepatocellular carcinoma and

underlying hepatitis C virus cirrhosis, in an attempt to correct his

haemostatic disorders and safely inject the tumour with alcohol. An extensive

portal block had precluded consideration of liver transplantation. Haemostasis

was evaluated by clotting assays, bleeding time and thromboelastography 10 min

before and 10 min and 1, 2, 4, 8 and 24 h after factor VII infusion. Parameters

of both coagulation (prothrombin time) and platelet function (bleeding time and

the alpha and ma parameters of thrombelastography) were improved 10 min after

factor VII infusion; improvements lasted 4 to 8 h or more. Platelet count did

not change and there was no evidence of disseminated intravascular coagulation.

The improvements in haemostatic parameters correlated significantly with the

increases in factor VII plasma concentrations (p<0.04). Factor VII clearance

was 25.1 U/h/kg and its half-life was 5.8 h. The same dose of recombinant

factor VII was given to the patient 1 week later, just before the alcohol

injections. The patient had no subsequent bleeding or other complication, with

no change in haemoglobin levels over 24 h. Thus, recombinant factor VII

represents a therapeutic advance, as it can correct fully both coagulation and

platelet function defects in cirrhosis and allow invasive procedures to be

performed safely.

1:

Sawa T, Ikoma T, Yoshida T, Kawada M, Azuma K, Murakawa S,

Tomita R.

[intratumoral ethanol injection therapy using endoscopic video

information

system].

Gan To Kagaku Ryoho. 1999 Oct;26(12):1865-8. Japanese.

PMID: 10560413 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2:

Papatheodoridis GV, Chung S, Keshav S, Pasi J, Burroughs AK.

Correction of both prothrombin time and primary haemostasis by

recombinant factor VII during therapeutic alcohol injection of

hepatocellular

cancer in liver cirrhosis.

J Hepatol. 1999 Oct;31(4):747-50.

PMID: 10551401 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3:

Solbiati L, Ierace T, Cova L, Dellanoce M, Marelli P.

Percutaneous ethanol injection of autonomously functioning

thyroid nodule.

Rays. 1999 Apr-Jun;24(2):348-57. Review.

PMID: 10509136 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4:

Giorgio A, Tarantino L, Mariniello N, De Stefano G, Perrotta

A, Aloisio V, Del

Viscovo L, Alaia A.

[ultrasonography-guided percutaneous ethanol injection in

large an/or

multiple liver metastasis].

Radiol Med (Torino). 1998 Sep;96(3):238-42. Italian.

PMID: 9850718 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

5:

Kawai N, Sato M, Sonomura T, Kishi K, Terada M, Tanaka K,

Tanaka H,

Nosaka M, Takata H, Nakanishi H, Yoshikawa A.

[Experimental study of percutaneous hot ethanol injection

therapy (PHEIT) by

continuous heating device for hepatocellular carcinoma].

Nippon Igaku Hoshasen Gakkai Zasshi. 1998 Jun;58(7):366-8.

Japanese.

PMID: 9711077 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

6:

Caratozzolo M, Lirici MM, Consalvo M, Marzano F, Fumarola E,

Angelini L.

Ultrasound-guided alcoholization of celiac plexus for pain

control in oncology.

Surg Endosc. 1997 Mar;11(3):239-44.

PMID: 9079600 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

7:

Elgindy NM, Lindholm HB, Gunven PM, Ohlsen HL.

A modified technique for ethanol injection of liver tumors:

preliminary results.

Eur Radiol. 1996;6(4):494-501.

PMID: 8798031 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

8:

Honda N, Guo Q, Uchida H, Ohishi H, Hiasa Y.

Percutaneous hot saline injection therapy for hepatic tumors:

an alternative

to percutaneous ethanol injection therapy.

Radiology. 1994 Jan;190(1):53-7.

PMID: 8259428 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

9:

Argalia G, Migliorini D, Salvolini L, Macellari L,

Giuseppetti GM, Morosini PP,

Arnaldi G, Vecchi A, Gusella P.

[Treatment of Plummer's adenoma: correlation between

ultrasonography-guided percutaneous injection of ethanol and

autoimmunity].

Radiol Med (Torino). 1993 Apr;85(4):462-6. Italian.

PMID: 8516475 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

April 24, 2001

thank you so very much. but i have had 4 drs. that all say the same

thing.....go home and prepare to die soon, well i have a very strong

determanation to live longer and i am on flaxseed oil and essiac extract

and takeing 40mg. 6 times aday of oxycontin.....and i am holding my own..no

thanks to drs.........i beleive that prayer can work miracles.......in the

bible somewhere it says with GOD all things are possible ......i want to

thank alll who have wrote and cared ...GOD bless you all..........pat ....if

anybody has any more suggestions i am sure willing to listen to anything

and everything......pat...thanks again....the liver has now enlarged to

15cm.x11cm....and i am small gal....i look 9 months preg. but still

praying .....pat.

April 24, 2001

Dear Pat:

I recommend you to use BIO-BAC. The product is very effective and it is

natural. No secondary effects. We have a long experience of patients with

excellent results.

Check the website: www.bio-bac.com

If you want to have aditional information, please contact me.

regards

coni

-----Mensaje original-----

De: Patti4358@... [mailto:Patti4358@...]

Enviado el: martes, 24 de abril de 2001 11:18

Para: cures for cancer

Asunto: Re: A New therapy

thank you so very much. but i have had 4 drs. that all say the same

thing.....go home and prepare to die soon, well i have a very strong

determanation to live longer and i am on flaxseed oil and essiac extract

and takeing 40mg. 6 times aday of oxycontin.....and i am holding my own..no

thanks to drs.........i beleive that prayer can work miracles.......in the

bible somewhere it says with GOD all things are possible ......i want to

thank alll who have wrote and cared ...GOD bless you all..........pat

.....if

anybody has any more suggestions i am sure willing to listen to anything

and everything......pat...thanks again....the liver has now enlarged to

15cm.x11cm....and i am small gal....i look 9 months preg. but still

praying .....pat.

Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

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April 24, 2001

Pat:

I just purchased a book for my mother titled " The Cure For All Cancers " by

Dr. Hulda Regehr Ph.D., N.D. The book cost $22.00, basically she

shows how all cancers have a common parasite, and the method of how to rid

ones body of them, ultimately curing the cancer. My mother is stage 4

pancreatic cancer spread to lungs, liver, spleen. Currently she is on

chemo, GEMZAR, flax seed oil and cottage cheese, all kinds of supplements.

I trying to find something new before the oncologist kill her with the

chemo.

This book is the latest, I'll keep you posted on her results.

God Bless,

Joe Bavaro

----------

> From: Patti4358@...

> cures for cancer

> Subject: Re: A New therapy

> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:18 AM

>

> thank you so very much. but i have had 4 drs. that all say the same

> thing.....go home and prepare to die soon, well i have a very strong

> determanation to live longer and i am on flaxseed oil and essiac extract

> and takeing 40mg. 6 times aday of oxycontin.....and i am holding my

own..no

> thanks to drs.........i beleive that prayer can work miracles.......in

the

> bible somewhere it says with GOD all things are possible ......i want

to

> thank alll who have wrote and cared ...GOD bless you all..........pat

....if

> anybody has any more suggestions i am sure willing to listen to

anything

> and everything......pat...thanks again....the liver has now enlarged to

> 15cm.x11cm....and i am small gal....i look 9 months preg. but still

> praying .....pat.

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

April 24, 2001

From: " Joe Bavaro " <bavco@...>

Date sent: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:15:12 -0400

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Re: A New therapy

> I just purchased a book for my mother titled " The Cure For All Cancers "

> by Dr. Hulda Regehr Ph.D., N.D. The book cost $22.00, basically

> she shows how all cancers have a common parasite, and the method of how to

> rid ones body of them, ultimately curing the cancer.

> Joe Bavaro

Hi,

M friend Alan got this book and followed all the advice, including

using the zapper. He died. The protocols in the book are unsubstaniated and are

based on anecdotal information only. There is no evidence cancers are caused by

parasites or that protocol to remove parasites get rid of all cancers.

The book is very misleading to people with cancer.

found all her cancer patients had parasites, that may just mean

parasites are fairly common, not that they cause cancer.

She said all my patients have cancer and parasites, therfore the parasites

must have caused the cancer - big mistake in logic.

She might also have found all her cancer patients had high flouride levels or

high mercury levels or high body burdens of dioxin, but she did not look for

these toxins, if she had she might have said those toxins caused cancer.

moonbeam

April 24, 2001

Moonbeam:

I didn't endorse the book, I simply wanted to put it out there as one more

possible aid in treating cancer.

I appreciate your feedback on this treatment and all the other information

you have shared with this site.

Joe Bavaro

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> From: moonbeam@...

> cures for cancer

> Subject: Re: A New therapy

> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:11 PM

>

> <cures for cancer >

> From: " Joe Bavaro " <bavco@...>

> Date sent: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:15:12 -0400

> Send reply to: cures for cancer

> Subject: Re: A New therapy

> > I just purchased a book for my mother titled " The Cure For All

Cancers "

> > by Dr. Hulda Regehr Ph.D., N.D. The book cost $22.00, basically

> > she shows how all cancers have a common parasite, and the method of how

to

> > rid ones body of them, ultimately curing the cancer.

> > Joe Bavaro

>

> Hi,

> M friend Alan got this book and followed all the advice,

including

> using the zapper. He died. The protocols in the book are unsubstaniated

and are

> based on anecdotal information only. There is no evidence cancers are

caused by

> parasites or that protocol to remove parasites get rid of all cancers.

>

> The book is very misleading to people with cancer.

> found all her cancer patients had parasites, that may just mean

> parasites are fairly common, not that they cause cancer.

> She said all my patients have cancer and parasites, therfore the

parasites

> must have caused the cancer - big mistake in logic.

> She might also have found all her cancer patients had high flouride

levels or

> high mercury levels or high body burdens of dioxin, but she did not look

for

> these toxins, if she had she might have said those toxins caused cancer.

>

> moonbeam

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

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>

April 25, 2001

I sincerely recommend you to check www.bio-bac.com

The product has great efficacy and it is not toxical at all. No secondary

effects. It is enzymetherapy.

Coni

-----Mensaje original-----

De: Joe Bavaro [mailto:bavco@...]

Enviado el: martes, 24 de abril de 2001 20:15

Para: cures for cancer

Asunto: Re: A New therapy

Pat:

I just purchased a book for my mother titled " The Cure For All Cancers " by

Dr. Hulda Regehr Ph.D., N.D. The book cost $22.00, basically she

shows how all cancers have a common parasite, and the method of how to rid

ones body of them, ultimately curing the cancer. My mother is stage 4

pancreatic cancer spread to lungs, liver, spleen. Currently she is on

chemo, GEMZAR, flax seed oil and cottage cheese, all kinds of supplements.

I trying to find something new before the oncologist kill her with the

chemo.

This book is the latest, I'll keep you posted on her results.

God Bless,

Joe Bavaro

----------

> From: Patti4358@...

> cures for cancer

> Subject: Re: A New therapy

> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:18 AM

>

> thank you so very much. but i have had 4 drs. that all say the same

> thing.....go home and prepare to die soon, well i have a very strong

> determanation to live longer and i am on flaxseed oil and essiac extract

> and takeing 40mg. 6 times aday of oxycontin.....and i am holding my

own..no

> thanks to drs.........i beleive that prayer can work miracles.......in

the

> bible somewhere it says with GOD all things are possible ......i want

to

> thank alll who have wrote and cared ...GOD bless you all..........pat

....if

> anybody has any more suggestions i am sure willing to listen to

anything

> and everything......pat...thanks again....the liver has now enlarged to

> 15cm.x11cm....and i am small gal....i look 9 months preg. but still

> praying .....pat.

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

April 25, 2001

Dr. also wrote, " The Cure For All Advanced Cancers " and her

just released book containing her latest research; " The Syncrometer

Science Laboratory Manual " .

I am a cancer patient, I am on Dr. 's latest protocol, and I

accompanied someone else to her clinic a few months ago.

Based on my experience of her evolving cancer protocols over the last

year and a half, I think her research is unparalleled and any sick

person would benefit from following her protocol, cancer patients

particularly.

I would not recommend that a cancer patient do her program (or

anyone's cancer protocol) without studying all her books...and

talking with well informed people about their experiences on her (or

again anyone's cancer protocol).

I feel more strongly than ever about this since reading all the

misinformation about her protocol on these and other lists.

Moonbeam, I too have benefited greatly from your past posts. And I

am sorry about your friend. However, you are seriously wrong about

Dr. ...removing mercury is one of the fundamentals of her

protocol. Most people don't want to deal with that, myself included.

Also in her books she warns about fluoride, among other things she

says the fluoride in your tap water is miniscule compared to the

toxic levels in toothpaste. But this is only one item among many that

she has researched.

Also Dr. has discovered a far, far more effective way of

zapping...simply by connecting metal plates to the original zapper

and placing microscope slides of organs and pathogens on this plate.

I can tell you from personal experience and from others I know that

are doing this, that it is extremely powerful stuff. I did the

regular zapper for over a year and never experienced anything close

to what plate zapping does.

Dr. has discovered that it is essential that batteries charging

her zapper be freshly charged...she goes into great detail in her

last book about this, says incomplete zapping is very common.

Also, she has discovered that many people are saturated with PCB's

and this interferes with the zapper current. I, apparently, was one

of those people. Her new method of plate zapping addresses these

problems. Plate zapping doesn't just kill parasites, it also

eliminates metals and solvents, including PCB's.

It is the highest priority at her clinic to do the dental work...a

patient sees Dr. on day 1 and on day 2 they are having their

mercury removed and teeth extracted at the dentists. I was there, I

met Dr. and I held the hand of the woman having the work done.

To you this may be only internet anecdotal, but to me it is first

hand and factual.

There is a thriving community of people using her methods on the

HuldaEnthusiasts list here on . It is only for people that

are already committed to using her program.

For others there is the Dr list here on , but the info on

that list is often not reliable..however, it is open to the public.

For more information about Dr. 's protocols you can visit

.net

They sell legitimate products and the site contains excerpts

from her books, including her latest dental recommendations.

There are many ways to do her protocol wrong....for instance, if the

black walnut tincture is not green colored, than it has already

oxidized and is no longer effective at killing parasites.

Hope this helps to clarify the questions about Dr. .

>

> <cures for cancer@y...>

> From: " Joe Bavaro " <bavco@m...>

> Date sent: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:15:12 -0400

> Send reply to: cures for cancer@y...

> Subject: Re: A New therapy

> > I just purchased a book for my mother titled " The Cure For All

Cancers "

> > by Dr. Hulda Regehr Ph.D., N.D. The book cost $22.00,

basically

> > she shows how all cancers have a common parasite, and the method

of how to

> > rid ones body of them, ultimately curing the cancer.

> > Joe Bavaro

>

> Hi,

> M friend Alan got this book and followed all the advice,

including

> using the zapper. He died. The protocols in the book are

unsubstaniated and are

> based on anecdotal information only. There is no evidence cancers

are caused by

> parasites or that protocol to remove parasites get rid of all

cancers.

>

> The book is very misleading to people with cancer.

> found all her cancer patients had parasites, that may just

mean

> parasites are fairly common, not that they cause cancer.

> She said all my patients have cancer and parasites, therfore the

parasites

> must have caused the cancer - big mistake in logic.

> She might also have found all her cancer patients had high

flouride levels or

> high mercury levels or high body burdens of dioxin, but she did not

look for

> these toxins, if she had she might have said those toxins caused

cancer.

>

> moonbeam

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