RE: QUACKBUSTER TIME AGAIN!!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/15/2000 3:10:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mailjame@... writes:

<< EGADS.......another Quackbuster has arrived! Apparently after reading her

books and starting vet school, Mr Kolas has determined his is wise enough to

slander the decades of work Dr has now shared through her writings.

Even to the point of setting up a Blast-Her web site. Will Mr Kolas have

something to offer in the way of his own discoveries on disease, or is that

too hard a path to follow? Will we be seeing any erudite books that he may

publish detailing something of his own? Although maybe he should wait and

wade through a half century of research like Dr did before publishing.

>>

I'm here also to say, her method does not work, I tried it on my pets,

just like she said And my pet died, spending alot on her potions. I had tons

of email from her so call son, it did not slow or stop the cancer.

Has she told you of the people she has treated that died, NO I bet

not......That is why she treats people in Mexico, and lives in the states.

That is why she's in trouble and in the courts in the usa....It's a several

million dollar business. I read her books, built the toys she says works. I

have my doubts about her ways. You need to open your eye's to the world

around you. Your saying when one don't agree it's slander. I say not ,

as we all have our own opinions about people and methods. I believed in her

till my pet died. Now I don't,

[Guest guest]

Hi, greetings from .

The problem is, cancer starts from healthy cells...

It is a malfunction simple and ugly.

So, fame and fortune is to those who cause those inflicted to spend their

money for a cure.

Well, when looking back to those afflicted with cancer, goodness, one can

only find that it is a game of money.

For lots of people both poor and rich have become to cancer.

What does this mean?

It means that the solution is in proportion to evolution.

I have cancer and have been working on my cure since August of 1999. So far,

I have found it a joke.

I am still complete, not cut, radiated, chemotherapy, just good food.

And however, understand the plague of cancer.

So, the magic bullet will come..this is the way of the human mind...

Sincerely,

[Guest guest]

,

Rather than attack my personally (ad hominem), why don't you try and tell me

what part of my argument is wrong?

If parasites are, say, involved in breast cancer why can't we see them on

biopsies of breast tissue? Why has nobody in the history of investigating

tumors ever seen them?

I think it is important to point out why Dr. is incorrect because I think

her theories are somewhat disturbing. Have you read the Cure for All Advanced

Cancers? Many cases describe her patients

visiting clinics in Mexico to have many teeth extracted (in some cases all of

them) for no good reason, except that the Syncrometer says there is " clostridia "

in them. It disturbs me to think that

terminally ill patients are having teeth ripped out of their mouths for no

reason. Doesn't that bother you? Remember that many of her patients are at a

desperate stage in their treatment. It is my

belief that if I can convince one person to ignore her theories, that is a good

thing.

I challenge you to find a statement that is factually incorrect on my web page:

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~kkolas

I have seen the Syncrometer at work and it is not valid. Nobody knows how to

make it work except Dr. . An electrical engineer that built and tested the

device concluded that it is flawed in

design. Once you see that the Syncrometer is not valid, it is easy to see how

virtually all her theories can't be true. Hulda admits that her theories stem

DIRECTLY from testing with her

Syncrometer. In her book, she also challenges people to repeat her results, and

nobody can do it (including her supporters).

I hope that you can see that I have no stake in this argument other than caring

about how cancer patients are treated. I have no problem with complementary

modalities that can do no harm. You will

notice that I don't criticize " zapping " on my web page because (unless you are

pregnant or have a heart condition) it is safe and complementary. But I do have

a problem with her theories in that they

are not truthful, and people may waste valuable time and money on them when

there are other treatment modalities (both traditional and complementary) that

people could be investigating (including many

discussed on this list).

Let's discuss her theories rather than argue. Believe it or not, we are on the

same team.

Thanks,

Kirk Kolas

Ontario Veterinary College

Class of 2002

JAMES wrote:

> EGADS.......another Quackbuster has arrived! Apparently after reading her

> books and starting vet school, Mr Kolas has determined his is wise enough to

> slander the decades of work Dr has now shared through her writings.

> Even to the point of setting up a Blast-Her web site. Will Mr Kolas have

> something to offer in the way of his own discoveries on disease, or is that

> too hard a path to follow? Will we be seeing any erudite books that he may

> publish detailing something of his own? Although maybe he should wait and

> wade through a half century of research like Dr did before publishing.

>

> Then again maybe Mr Kolas should take his negative efforts and web site and

> move over to Barretts place. I'm sure they would work well together.

> Our several friends and associates that are alive today because of Dr

> would probably concur.

> james

>

> Re: Cancer is caused by fluke, viruses,

> bacteria...

>

> Joyce,

>

> YES. Some forms of cancer have certain risk factors that include

> viruses. A search of the literature can shed some light on these

> associations. In veterinary medicine, feline leukemia virus (FeLV) is a

> good example of such an association.

>

> And YES, liver flukes can lead to cholangiocarcinoma (cancer of bile

> ducts) in humans. This is a problem in some tropical places in the far

> east. For example, in Northeastern Thailand, where they eat a lot of

> raw fish and are exposed to liver flukes (I lived there for 3 months,

> but kept away from the weird food). Flukes are a risk factor in these

> cases, but there are probably other contributing factors, as well. In

> North America, fluke involvement in liver cancer would likely be

> exceedingly rare.

>

> These relationships have been established through meticulous scientific

> investigation.

>

> What Dr. has to say about cancer is not supported by any

> scientific investigations. Only by her Syncrometer. It says so right

> in the foreword of her books. All the findings and recommendations are

> based on " a device of her own invention " . At a lecture I attended, she

> claimed that a girl she had treated had large flukes in her brain

> leading to cancer. She " detected " the flukes using her Syncrometer

> (which, by the way, nobody can get to work... mostly because it doesn't

> work). She claims that all cancers involve flukes and propyl alcohol.

> This is nonsense, of course.

>

> Do you really believe that women with breast cancer have flukes (or

> fluke eggs) in their breasts? Why don't they show up on biopsy? It's

> because they are not there, Joyce. It's because the Syncrometer is not

> a valid device. Like I said before, it sells lots and lots of books

> (over $7 million), but her theories are essentially an imaginative tale.

>

> My advice is to look to other resources for advice on cancer treatment.

> Dr. 's theories are too far away from reality to be of use. At

> least some other alternative methods have a plausible method of action

> that does not contradict the vast knowledge we have accumulated with

> respect to cancer.

>

> For more on Dr. 's theories see: http://www.uoguelph.ca/~kkolas

>

> Thanks,

>

> Kirk Kolas, B.Sc.

> Ontario Veterinary College

> Class of 2002

>

> Your doubts about Dr. 's methods are well founded. I have read three

> of Dr. 's books (The Cure for All Diseases, The Cure for All Cancers,

> and The Cure for All Advanced Cancers) and I have

> seen a live Syncrometer demonstration (at Total Health 2000 in Toronto).

> With the exception of her recommendations on healthy eating, most of what

> she says in her books is nonsense. Cancer is not

> caused by parasites.

>

> I am highly critical of Dr. 's theories and her methods. I have

> developed a web page explaining why I think her theories have no basis in

> reality. You can review the webpage at:

>

> http://www.uoguelph.ca/~kkolas

>

> I am sure that many people will not like what I have to say on the topic of

> Dr. , but her methods are particularly upsetting to me (especially all

> of the tooth extractions done in Mexico). Simply

> put, her Syncrometer does not work, and almost all of her recommendations

> and theories are based on her Syncrometer findings. If anyone finds

> something incorrect on my webpage, I invite your comments

> (there is a link at the bottom of the page). For people interested in

> investigating alternative treatments, I recommend ignoring Dr. 's

> theories and concentrating on other possible treatments that

> make more sense.

>

> P.S. I'm sorry to hear about your dog... the N/D diet you mentioned is

> supposed to help survival in cases of lymphoma (I have heard that there is

> not much research on other cancers... but it may still

> be helpful). My friend's dog came down with lymphoma recently, but she

> couldn't put him on the N/D diet because of a pre-existing condition (he was

> already on a special diet). Sadly, she lost her dog

> to cancer last summer.

>

> Kirk Kolas, B.Sc.

> Ontario Veterinary College

> Class of 2002

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> 1.6 Million Digital Images!

> Download one Today from Corbis.com

> 1/3356/7/_/378/_/955717298/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links

> there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or

> by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> SHOPPING for DEALS? The merchants at BuyItOnline.com are offering up

> to 30% OFF great gear, wear, gadgets and more, now through April 15,

> 2000. Real stores. Real Deals. Real Easy. Go get something great!

> 1/3025/7/_/378/_/955775868/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links

there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

>If parasites are, say, involved in breast cancer why can't we see them on

biopsies of breast tissue? Why has nobody in the history of investigating

tumors ever seen them?

Stop now before you make a total ass of yourself, my friend.

Plenty of people have seen them, quiet regularly, in fact.

Let's just take my mother (recently deceased of breast cancer), whose colon

erupted last May. In her surgery, numerous worms of every kind were

biopsied and found. She understood, too late, that her body was riddled

with worms and the doctors said that there was no way to rid them. They

would be with her when she died.

Next, let's take the case of my good girlfriend, Candace, whose mother is

also deceased of cancer. Her mother's ulcerating colon was EXPOSED along

with numerous ulcers on her legs and chest, that were oozing blood. She

also had serious parasites, diagnosed by doctors ( the regular md type)

So, please relax, you young-buck-type-eager-to-save-the-world.

Parasites are a more than serious problem right now, and especially where

cancer is concerned.

Now whether you become a Hulda supporter or denouncer is definitely

your choice.

Do yourself a favor, and don't use this forum to promote your idiocy and

agendas.

Let the people who choose to use the methods continue in learning

about how their body works, and how it heals. Let them move on to more

learning at their own speed.

I can put you in touch with a man who gives zappers to missionaries and

" cures " them regularly, and that's all he does. Zapper king to missionaries.

This world takes all types to go round and round.

Dear vet-in-training-friend, find ways to promote good will, love and

peace. Your website shows that you are more than clever and motivated to

help people. Channel that enthusiasm into " gainful " and positive work, and

you will be richly rewarded and free from stress.

Learn from this list.

Be well,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/15/2000 12:12:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

michelle@... writes:

<< Next, let's take the case of my good girlfriend, Candace, whose mother is

also deceased of cancer. Her mother's ulcerating colon was EXPOSED along

with numerous ulcers on her legs and chest, that were oozing blood. She

also had serious parasites, diagnosed by doctors ( the regular md type)

>>

Why then if your Doctor knew she had the worms, didn't he take care of the

problems? That is mal-pratice on your doctors part.

He should have gave her some for the parasites. I don't mean to sound cold

hearted, but if your doc knew, then I would questioned my doctor, Wouldn't

you. If I thought for one minute that someone was getting mistreated I would

speakup, and ask questions. I for one is not scared to ask questions,

especially from doctors. Hey if we think our vet is not doing something right

for our pets, we get on his butt, and if you see your love ones getting mis

treated by anyone while sick or unable to seek advice or ask questions, then

it YOUR job to do it for them, no matter who it make mad.....I see so many

old people in the nursing homes around here that gets bad treatment everyday,

and if you don't check on EVERYDAY then you will not catch it.

Warmest Regards

Mike

[Guest guest]

Joyce should at least read " The Assault on Medical Freedom " by P. ph

, " Racketeering in Medicine " by P. , MD, and Burton

Goldberg's An Alternative Medicine Guide to Cancer, " before citing

Quackbusters as an authoritative source. If you do much Web surfing you will

encounter many cases where people with various forms of cancer report

excreting Fasciolopsis buskii after doing the cleanses. J.S.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/15/2000 7:05:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

michelle@... writes:

<< Subj: Re: QUACKBUSTER TIME AGAIN!!!

Date: 04/15/2000 7:05:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From: michelle@... ( Webster)

Reply-to: cures for canceregroups

cures for canceregroups

>Why then if your Doctor knew she had the worms, didn't he take care of the

>problems?

Yes, we did, Mike. Flagyl couldn't touch it.

Thanks,

>>

,

Flagyl, is a medicine for treating infection, it's an anti infective med. How

can it kill worms (parasites). Just want to bring this to your attention.

Blackwalnut tincture, worm wood and cloves would, or the other commercial meds

Do you blieve in Flax oil or red raspberries

[Guest guest]

>Why then if your Doctor knew she had the worms, didn't he take care of the

>problems?

Yes, we did, Mike. Flagyl couldn't touch it.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Mr Kolas

WE ARE DEFINITELY " NOT ON THE SAME TEAM " with your self proclaimed attitude

of " It is my

belief that if I can convince one person to ignore her theories, that is a

good thing. " You are really infuriating in your caustic negative

attitude....and this has nothing to do with me defending ......you are

after defaming, not discussion, your web site makes that obvious. Why don't

you attempt something original to offer folks of your own design if you are

so full of wisdom? This is Alternative Medicine that is based on free will

and co-operative sharing and encouragement. Not the insidious crap that you

are expounding. You don't like her book, find another book and get onto

other things.

The Syncrometer definitely is not easy, but it works and the advanced study

examples are incredibly sophisticated and work just fine also. Many

" supporters " use the basic skills on their Syncrometer just fine. Matter of

fact, the man arriving tonight for a checkup had a major brain tumor 5

months ago, was brought back from the brink of death (given a week by his

Doctors) by , and his wife keeps him clean with their Syncrometer.

There are many like this, but you want to make your opinionated

announcements to the world that you have it all figured out. Go get a life

somewhere.....this isn't it.

Also you state that Dr lives in the states but works in Mexico

(inferring rip-off methods) and makes millions. What a joke. She works AND

lives in Mexico, drives an old Ford, and is there for the children and

adults all the time.

Re: Cancer is caused by fluke, viruses,

> bacteria...

>

> Joyce,

>

> YES. Some forms of cancer have certain risk factors that include

> viruses. A search of the literature can shed some light on these

> associations. In veterinary medicine, feline leukemia virus (FeLV) is a

> good example of such an association.

>

> And YES, liver flukes can lead to cholangiocarcinoma (cancer of bile

> ducts) in humans. This is a problem in some tropical places in the far

> east. For example, in Northeastern Thailand, where they eat a lot of

> raw fish and are exposed to liver flukes (I lived there for 3 months,

> but kept away from the weird food). Flukes are a risk factor in these

> cases, but there are probably other contributing factors, as well. In

> North America, fluke involvement in liver cancer would likely be

> exceedingly rare.

>

> These relationships have been established through meticulous scientific

> investigation.

>

> What Dr. has to say about cancer is not supported by any

> scientific investigations. Only by her Syncrometer. It says so right

> in the foreword of her books. All the findings and recommendations are

> based on " a device of her own invention " . At a lecture I attended, she

> claimed that a girl she had treated had large flukes in her brain

> leading to cancer. She " detected " the flukes using her Syncrometer

> (which, by the way, nobody can get to work... mostly because it doesn't

> work). She claims that all cancers involve flukes and propyl alcohol.

> This is nonsense, of course.

>

> Do you really believe that women with breast cancer have flukes (or

> fluke eggs) in their breasts? Why don't they show up on biopsy? It's

> because they are not there, Joyce. It's because the Syncrometer is not

> a valid device. Like I said before, it sells lots and lots of books

> (over $7 million), but her theories are essentially an imaginative tale.

>

> My advice is to look to other resources for advice on cancer treatment.

> Dr. 's theories are too far away from reality to be of use. At

> least some other alternative methods have a plausible method of action

> that does not contradict the vast knowledge we have accumulated with

> respect to cancer.

>

> For more on Dr. 's theories see: http://www.uoguelph.ca/~kkolas

>

> Thanks,

>

> Kirk Kolas, B.Sc.

> Ontario Veterinary College

> Class of 2002

>

> Your doubts about Dr. 's methods are well founded. I have read three

> of Dr. 's books (The Cure for All Diseases, The Cure for All Cancers,

> and The Cure for All Advanced Cancers) and I have

> seen a live Syncrometer demonstration (at Total Health 2000 in Toronto).

> With the exception of her recommendations on healthy eating, most of what

> she says in her books is nonsense. Cancer is not

> caused by parasites.

>

> I am highly critical of Dr. 's theories and her methods. I have

> developed a web page explaining why I think her theories have no basis in

> reality. You can review the webpage at:

>

> http://www.uoguelph.ca/~kkolas

>

> I am sure that many people will not like what I have to say on the topic

of

> Dr. , but her methods are particularly upsetting to me (especially

all

> of the tooth extractions done in Mexico). Simply

> put, her Syncrometer does not work, and almost all of her recommendations

> and theories are based on her Syncrometer findings. If anyone finds

> something incorrect on my webpage, I invite your comments

> (there is a link at the bottom of the page). For people interested in

> investigating alternative treatments, I recommend ignoring Dr. 's

> theories and concentrating on other possible treatments that

> make more sense.

>

> P.S. I'm sorry to hear about your dog... the N/D diet you mentioned is

> supposed to help survival in cases of lymphoma (I have heard that there is

> not much research on other cancers... but it may still

> be helpful). My friend's dog came down with lymphoma recently, but she

> couldn't put him on the N/D diet because of a pre-existing condition (he

was

> already on a special diet). Sadly, she lost her dog

> to cancer last summer.

>

> Kirk Kolas, B.Sc.

> Ontario Veterinary College

> Class of 2002

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> 1.6 Million Digital Images!

> Download one Today from Corbis.com

> 1/3356/7/_/378/_/955717298/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links

> there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups

or

> by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> SHOPPING for DEALS? The merchants at BuyItOnline.com are offering up

> to 30% OFF great gear, wear, gadgets and more, now through April 15,

> 2000. Real stores. Real Deals. Real Easy. Go get something great!

> 1/3025/7/_/378/_/955775868/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links

there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or

by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Get paid for the stuff you know!

Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site!

1/2200/7/_/378/_/955798023/

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links

there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or

by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

Just a quick little input from Harpers Biochemistry 1996 chapter 56.

" Cancer is increasingly recognized as a disorder resulting from abnormal

genetic regulation (Chapter 62). The major problem in cancer is METASTASIS,

the phenomenon whereby cancer cells leave therir tissue of rigin (eg, the

breast), migrated through the bloodstream to some distant site in the body

(eg. the brain), and grow there in a completely unregulated manner, with

catastrophic results for the affected individual. Many cancer researchers

think that alterations in the structures of glycoproteins and other

glycoconjugates on the surfaces of cancer cells are important in the

phenomenon of metastasis.

GOD BLESS & HAVE A HEALTHY DAY!!!

Eddie

mannadadeo@...

-----------------------------------------------------

Click here for Free Video!!

http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/

Re: QUACKBUSTER TIME AGAIN!!!

> Hi, greetings from .

>

> The problem is, cancer starts from healthy cells...

> It is a malfunction simple and ugly.

> So, fame and fortune is to those who cause those inflicted to spend their

> money for a cure.

> Well, when looking back to those afflicted with cancer, goodness, one can

> only find that it is a game of money.

> For lots of people both poor and rich have become to cancer.

> What does this mean?

> It means that the solution is in proportion to evolution.

> I have cancer and have been working on my cure since August of 1999. So

far,

> I have found it a joke.

> I am still complete, not cut, radiated, chemotherapy, just good food.

>

> And however, understand the plague of cancer.

>

> So, the magic bullet will come..this is the way of the human mind...

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Get paid for the stuff you know!

> Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site!

> 1/2200/7/_/378/_/955808993/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links

there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or

by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv