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In a message dated 3/19/00 10:26:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, juno@...

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<< Thousands of years old? Thats hard to believe.

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ps- There is a $250,000 reward on the site if you can prove him wrong. Go

for it!!!

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Only thousands of years old? Very hard to believe that piece of information.

You think the grand canyon was made in a few thousand years old? How about

those dinosaur bones, or the woolly mantis they just found in Alaska?

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Check out the site and collect your $250,000 if he is so wrong. All of your

questions are answered on that site. It is the best Creation Research site I

have seen.

ps-Until I looked into it I used to believe what the government schools

taught me too. i.e.-complex life systems originate from nothing, and that a

rock can change into a man or elephant given enough time.

Of course, some people believe that the FDA and the pharaceutical companies

are interested in curing diseases. Things aren't always the way they seem on

TV.

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Hello Everyone...

I've never actually answered or spoken out on this website before but I just

had to respond to Cyndi Rosen's advisory that we should check out this

religious sight called " Creation Science Evangelism " . When I joined this

group I was joining because I was interested in alternative health

information mixed with a dose of human wisdom and experience. I have found

for the most part that this is what I received. I appreciated very much all

of the feedback, education and the mutual sharing of ideas and information.

That said: I want to respond to the aforementioned " Creation Evangelism "

sight information. This sort of recommendation betrays and breaks with what

I thought was about health. I actually checked this sight and this mentally

unwell Evangelist actually believes that the theory of evolution is a fascist

plot and a conspiracy to control the world.

Further he indicates that " Evolution is the foundation for Nazism and

Communism and other forms of Fascism " . He indicates that the earth is

thousands of years old and not millions etc. etc. etc. May I politely

request that this sort of foolishness be kept away from this sight. Any

person preaching this perversity is profoundly disturbed and uneducated. This

disturbing website trying to debunk the theory of evolution is scary,

unscientific, illogical and profoundly offensive. I have enjoyed very much

the intelligence and hard work that people have contributed within the

cures for cancer group. Please may I implore us to stay on track with the good

purpose for which it was intended.

- Respectfully - M.

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Hello once more,

I just read more of my E Mail and now Toby had converted. Cut the

religion discussions please. Evangelist preachers desperate for attention

and power are not of interest to people of intelligence and rational thought.

There are a million things wrong with the Evangelist Creation man's

arguments. You should know that. Good luck. G.M.

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Thousands of years old? Thats hard to believe.

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Check out Creation Science Evangelism--Seminar Online

> <A HREF= " http://216.248.142.66/SeminarOnline/ " >Click here: Creation

Science

> Evangelism--Seminar Online</A> this sight is so awesome it totally blows

out

> the theory of evolution! And shows that earth is thousands of years old

not

> millions and that dinosaurs coexisted with man. Cyndi

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My mom has the whole series of tapes of his. I've watched them too. This

guy makes a lot of sense and is extremely intelligent. My mom is a science

teacher and owns her own private school. She bought the tapes for her

science classes since she has to teach evolution by law, this way the kids

can go over creation as well which they are not allowed to teach in public

school. The guy puts the theory of evolution to shame. I love it! I

believe in creation!!........................Belinda

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In a message dated 03/20/2000 1:25:43 AM Central Standard Time,

Bebop1234@... writes:

<< May I politely

request that this sort of foolishness be kept away from this sight. Any

person preaching this perversity is profoundly disturbed and uneducated.

This

disturbing website trying to debunk the theory of evolution is scary,

unscientific, illogical and profoundly offensive. >>

M. - it is obvious that you have never viewed this guys material.

It is ALL done scientifically and is extremely logical. He backs all he

says. It is a shame that you feel offended, people who tells lies and bogus

garbage to my children offend me. You should watch these tapes, before you

judge them. Everything he says , he proves (for the scientifically

inclined). God is a major part of healing on this site, after all, we are

all using some form of " medicine " made by the Master Physician himself.

Scientific studies have even shown that people who have a belief in God and

participate in prayer have higher rates of healing. You should also look at

some of these studies as well.

...............................................Belinda

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In a message dated 03/20/2000 1:28:33 AM Central Standard Time,

Bebop1234@... writes:

<< There are a million things wrong with the Evangelist Creation man's

arguments. You should know that. Good luck. G.M.

>>

What things would those be? Please

explain...............................Belinda

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In a message dated 3/19/00 10:44:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,

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Only thousands of years old? Very hard to believe that piece of

information.

You think the grand canyon was made in a few thousand years old? How about

those dinosaur bones, or the woolly mantis they just found in Alaska?

>>

What's a woolly mantis? I might have one in my back yard.

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It is wonderful to keep an open mind for it is written that man cannot live

by bread alone.

To wonder about things we cannot touch in the present is as natural as

breathing.

And one doesn't need a Ph.D. to go back in time step by step to see what has

transpired in the life ot man/woman.

Even the earth provides records of what happened yesterday and thousands to

millions of yesterdays, one only needs to look.

What happens on earth isn't necessarily what happens in heaven for those so

engaged in their religions. But rather a record of the coming and going of

its peoples and necessarily of all other creatures.

Even in the Old Testament, the God of many did not make man and woman before

the creatures of the earth, so there is no time as to when man and all

creatures co-habitated at the same time.

There are so few shepherds yet so many sheep.

W. Huebner

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Dear H. -

You are wise and well-informed. If anyone actually cares, I do appreciate

all the good energy, thoughts and heart to be found in this venue. All the

best to all of you. And to you : cheers!

G.M.

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Dear Steve,

Thank you for having the focus this site needs to maintain. There is so much

good material on this sight. I, too, agree that the substance should be

consistent. You are so right!

G.M.

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So, tell me what any of this has to do with " cures for cancer "

Preach some where else. I am look for alternative cancer treatments not

the evolution of man or lack there of.

Steve

It is wonderful to keep an open mind for it is written that man cannot live

by bread alone.

To wonder about things we cannot touch in the present is as natural as

breathing.

And one doesn't need a Ph.D. to go back in time step by step to see what has

transpired in the life ot man/woman.

Even the earth provides records of what happened yesterday and thousands to

millions of yesterdays, one only needs to look.

What happens on earth isn't necessarily what happens in heaven for those so

engaged in their religions. But rather a record of the coming and going of

its peoples and necessarily of all other creatures.

Even in the Old Testament, the God of many did not make man and woman before

the creatures of the earth, so there is no time as to when man and all

creatures co-habitated at the same time.

There are so few shepherds yet so many sheep.

W. Huebner

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Maybe I am just computer illiterate. I tried to go into this website

and couldn't.

CyndiRosen@... wrote:

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> <A HREF= " http://216.248.142.66/SeminarOnline/ " >Click here: Creation Science

> Evangelism--Seminar Online</A> this sight is so awesome it totally blows out

> the theory of evolution! And shows that earth is thousands of years old not

> millions and that dinosaurs coexisted with man. Cyndi

>

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Hi you all CyndiRosen here I forwarded this website to cures for cancer by accident

when I sent to my friends I clicked cancer cure too I am glad some of you

appreciate it to those who are blowing lots of hot wind out their rears need

to look into his reward to those who prove him wrong!

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Thank you very much for sharing this website and only a fool denies that God

exists and I politely ask that all fools keep mouth shut then we won't know

you are a fool. Sharing this was a very good thing and freedom does not mean

fools can try to limit the knowledge of those who believe. Thank you again.

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Evolution is only a theory, not a scared religion that needs anyone to

defend. It takes a greater faith to believe I came from a blob than I could

ever muster up. Those who choose such things according to the word of God is

a fool. It is best to keep mouth shut then to open it and remove all doubt.

Freedom to share truth in creation is not a subject that offends anyone

except a fool. If you are so sure about evolution then just pray for those

who doubt. Thank you.

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Dear Eat2Heal,

We're here to talk about cancer not evolution. No one is debating God or

evolution so keep it off the site. Go elsewhere if you have the need.

- G.M.

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Dear Group,

Somehow my e-mail address got onto this cancer cure group and it's ironic

because I just came back from south of the border, went to the Bio-Medical

Clinic in Tijuana, Mexico - I took a friend with liver cancer and when I got

back and checked my e-mail I had 95 messages so I'll try to answer some

help.

Eleven years ago I was diagnosed with small cell carcinoma in the lungs -

one lung was totally envolved and the (worms) I'll call them had already

gotten into my heart and esophagus. The Dr. told me that I had about three

months life expectancy but they may be able to extend it up to a year with

Chemotherapy. I agreed once, but never again and they kept telling me I

should make another appointment 'cause I didn't have long, I SAID " NO MORE

CHEMO " . I learned since that Chemo destroys your immune system, which is

the GOD GIVEN medical labratory to each of us to remain healthy, why destroy

it????

Anyway when I get started on this subject, I just can't shut up. After I

had gone to the Bio-Medical Clinic and you are generally there only one day

and the treatment is a tonic made of roots and herbs. You bring this home

and take it as recommended. Believe me, I've recommended this treatment to

tover a thousand people and atleast 80% are still alive and well. My

Oncologist here in the states told me after a year of this treatment (I

don't know what you are doing but whatever it is keep it up, you should have

been dead 8 or 9 months ago) and when I told her and gave her some

literature she threw it aside and said hogwash.

Well, I'm still here and the treatments didn't cost a fortune, $3500.00 for

a lifetime. There's no sign of cancer in my body anywhere and I' m 76 years

old. God left me here on this earth to help people. If anyone writes to me

with a self addressed stamped envelope, i can send some literature to them.

Gil Devlin P.O.Box 7823 Fresno, California 93747

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> Thanks again for sharing the website on creation. Glad to see some

> intelligent God-fearing people in this group.

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I've recommended BioMedical (Hoxsey Clinic)

to many, many people also. I gave them video

tapes of the clinic, names and ph. #'s of testimonials, etc. Almost all

paid no attention because they were afraid to question conventional

medical treatment, or just too lazy

to look into it further. I know this sounds bad

but I don't even bother with them anymore.

Most people have access to the internet now

and there is absolutely no reason for someone

w/cancer to give himself totally to just one

doctor's viewpoint and/or treatment. Right?

Best, JR

Dear Group,

Somehow my e-mail address got onto this cancer cure group and it's ironic

because I just came back from south of the border, went to the Bio-Medical

Clinic in Tijuana, Mexico - I took a friend with liver cancer and when I got

back and checked my e-mail I had 95 messages so I'll try to answer some

help.

Eleven years ago I was diagnosed with small cell carcinoma in the lungs -

one lung was totally envolved and the (worms) I'll call them had already

gotten into my heart and esophagus. The Dr. told me that I had about three

months life expectancy but they may be able to extend it up to a year with

Chemotherapy. I agreed once, but never again and they kept telling me I

should make another appointment 'cause I didn't have long, I SAID " NO MORE

CHEMO " . I learned since that Chemo destroys your immune system, which is

the GOD GIVEN medical labratory to each of us to remain healthy, why destroy

it????

Anyway when I get started on this subject, I just can't shut up. After I

had gone to the Bio-Medical Clinic and you are generally there only one day

and the treatment is a tonic made of roots and herbs. You bring this home

and take it as recommended. Believe me, I've recommended this treatment to

tover a thousand people and atleast 80% are still alive and well. My

Oncologist here in the states told me after a year of this treatment (I

don't know what you are doing but whatever it is keep it up, you should have

been dead 8 or 9 months ago) and when I told her and gave her some

literature she threw it aside and said hogwash.

Well, I'm still here and the treatments didn't cost a fortune, $3500.00 for

a lifetime. There's no sign of cancer in my body anywhere and I' m 76 years

old. God left me here on this earth to help people. If anyone writes to me

with a self addressed stamped envelope, i can send some literature to them.

Gil Devlin P.O.Box 7823 Fresno, California 93747

Re: Check out Creation Science Evangelism--Seminar

Online

> Thanks again for sharing the website on creation. Glad to see some

> intelligent God-fearing people in this group.

>

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>Evolution is only a theory, not a scared religion that needs anyone to

>defend. It takes a greater faith to believe I came from a blob than I could

>ever muster up. Those who choose such things according to the word of God is

>a fool. It is best to keep mouth shut then to open it and remove all doubt.

>Freedom to share truth in creation is not a subject that offends anyone

>except a fool. If you are so sure about evolution then just pray for those

>who doubt. Thank you.

>

Greetings friend,

I don't mean to seem a doubter of an antagonist, but until one has an

experience of God, for that person God also remains just a theory or

concept. It appears to me that having an " experience " of any thing is the

only way to " know " anything. Everything else is just a concept or belief.

Try knowing what chocolate tastes like by reading about it from a book

won't come close to the experience. One of the interersting things about an

" experience " is that it cannot be articulated or even described and any

attempt to do so creates an abstraction of it. Sort of describing the menu

and not the meal. But than the only way to know what the meal is like is to

experience it and not read about it from a menu.

The world is full of noble people pursuing the experience of God by reading

about God, studying God, contemplating God, praying to God, and for some,

shaking their fist at God.

I trust that the experience of God is indescribeable and so many in human

form seem to think they know God and have the most accurate discription

available to them from which to lecture others.

Personally, I prefer the meal and not the menu. God is everything,

everywhere, and the space in which it exists

Warm regards,

J Bentley

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